I’m Shvitzing in Switzerland

It's not so bad tonight. It's 25C now in my apartment and moderate humidity. It must be 22 down on the lake but I can't sleep on the lake. Today, Wednesday is going to be hotter! But where was it 97F Tuesday? It was 28-29 thats only 85 ish. June has been 2.5C above average everyday.

But even if this becomes more of the norm, R1 I get the sentiment the Swiss will still reject air con at all costs. That’s what I don’t understand.

I love Switzerland, especially Geneva. Where are you staying OP? I traveled for work a bunch of times and usually stayed at the Beau-Rivage, which had air conditioning. Luckily only traveled there in the fall, when it was nice and cool.

Male Stewardess?

It’s Flight Attendant, R4.

OP R2 I live here. Bourgeois folks have air in their homes. Rich folks definitely have it. As for apartment building, new builds can accommodate it. Rich folks have put it in. But yeah, it's not very Swiss by tradition. They are going to have to change. We have heat waves every summer. Young people will put in air as soon as they can and have the cash.

Not to me. Just like a male waitress.

of course all 5 star hotels have it. Beau Rivage Lausanne and Geneva are right on the lake. And in Lausanne it has a big garden. It's usually pleasant and quiet in the evening on the terrace in Lausanne even on hot days.

The water is 21 now in some places so go swimming.

I am thinking ths ame thing, OP. I am visiting toasty Basel, and my hot hotel only has a fan.

Also, have you noticed that Swiss guys are not at all hot? Maybe I was spoiled by all of those hot French men in Paris.

It's 117 in the shade here today. And what is this "air conditioning"?

Orphan, staying cool is the least of your worries.

100 degrees in Philly today and I’m SUCKING my airconditioning

I mean, all of New England is like this. This is the first summer since moving to Massachusetts in 2011 that I have a comprehensive way to manage the summer heat. I didn't even realize there was a heat wave currently until I looked at the weather for fun, because I have been indoors for a few days straight working. It's totally incredible becaue I am used to suffering, tossing and turning with a cold cloth, one or more fans, every night. Ocassionally getting a hotel for a night or two when it is just too unbearable to function.

I just spent almost $80,000 putting 8 mini splits into my three=story 1886 Victorian about a month ago. (Only running four of them currently, the others are in guest rooms). That's correct: In it's 139 years of it's storied existence, no one ever installed AC into this house before me. My previous 1900 Victorian didn't have AC either. My 1968 mid-century didn't have it. And my 1920s cottage in Easthampton didn't have it.

Some folks install window units, but others don't even do that.

Not sure where they are giving out the gold medals for tolerating unconditioned indoor heat around here? It's so dangerous to languish indoors in the heat. Deadly, even.

You don't see this rejection of AC in any other parts of the country.

R9 I’m in Basel myself!

r13 I assume for structural reasons a central HVAC and its ductwork were out of the question?

When I bought the 100 year old house we live in 27 years ago this July the first thing I did was call Sears. For $6600 I got a central air with a Garland compressor that lasted 24 years with one repair, the air handling equipment in the attic, and ductwork to cool three floors, all new as the heat is forced hot water so there were no ducts. Three years ago I had it replaced with a much more energy efficient Carrier unit out back for $14,000 to do half what Sears had done. My neighbors just got a quote to replace theirs for $21,000.

Residential air conditioning was unheard of in New England in the 1960’s. Now it’s a necessity. And very welcome: it was 102 outside this afternoon and cooling down to 94 tomorrow.

I'm so glad I don't have to worry about any of this. 71F (22 C) today - and will be around the same for the rest of the week. A light jacket is needed past 9pm.

It's expensive as fuck - but SoCal coastal weather is hard to beat.

R17 yeah right. Socal is like 90f. You must mean mid coastal California, Monterrey and Carmel.

R18 - nope. San Diego coastal. Where you getting 90 from? LA coastal is mid 70s highs as well, same as OC.

I said coastal - not far inland.

OP: shouldn't your post be, "I’m Shvitzing in Shvitzerland"

What is happening!? Is that normal? Everytime I've been in LA it's fucking hot! Climate change, I suppose.

99° in the northeast in June! Two weeks ago we needed jackets.

Unless you're on a school schedule (have kids or teach), its great to avoid travel during the summer.

One of the reasons we left San Francisco was that pretty much all the new apartment buildings didn't have AC....Paired with funky windows that didn't fully open....When the sun was shining all day into our apartment it would become unbearable......We moved 4 times in a little over 2 years

Don't they have pools of cool fondue in which to dip yourself

I’ve lived in both the northeast and the Deep South, U.S.. I had window units of air conditioning in the northeast. It was sufficient. In the Deep South, central air is a ‘must have’ for the home.

I lived in San Francisco for 15 years and never had AC in any of my apps. Lived in LA and very rarely found an apt with AC too. I'm in New England now and have a great central AC unbit

[quote] I’m SUCKING my airconditioning

Pics please.

Max?

In and north of the Alps, air conditioning is still somewhat frowned upon.

Patently ridiculous, of course

I'd rather be shvitzing in Switzerland than cooking in Florida!

Miami in June is surprisingly pleasant. High today of 84.

The truly vile, clammy, dangerous weather kicks in about mid-July. And lasts until just before/after Thanksgiving.

I'm in Philly and I haven't left my house since Saturday.

[quote]Residential air conditioning was unheard of in New England in the 1960’s. Now it’s a necessity.

I grew up in CT in the 80s and early 90s and even then a/c wasn't very common except for some older people. Now everybody has it. Growing up, it was hot in August but we could deal with it for 3 or 4 weeks, June and July were of course warm but not usually unbearably so. Now, it's blazing hot from late May to early September. And there are people who still deny climate change! Idiots.

Yes R15 it was deemed structurally unwise to try to install ductwork. These old plaster walls are delicate and antique and it is expensive to get in there and then put the plaster walls back together and fix all the holes.

The mini-splits were the way to go. I have Carrier mini-splits that are so damn efficient. I turn it on for five minutes and I'm freezing. They also do heat, so I am going to experiment with that concept this winter. My heating bills for this drafty three-story Victorian are exorbitant - hoping these new mini-splits are less expensive and more efficient. Employing them will allow me to keep the main thermostat on like 66, relying on the 'splits to accent heat in the rooms we actually use. We shall see.

[quote]Male stewardess?

Steward.

Well for one, I’m Switzing in Schvitzerland.

I had no idea it got that hot there.

Oh do shut up, stop complaining and go jump in the ocean or something.