Where do these bitches get their money?

They don't have kids and they don't exactly dress like rich people. Thence the money, OP.

Maybe they got money from their parents or grandparents?

If you can swing a big down payment and have good credit a bank will give you a mortgage.

These two are not exactly from some "overclass". They both work, they sought a discounted mortgage, and they saved some $$ for a down payment. They talk in the article about hosting visitors, which means that when they travel, they probably stay with friends - just one of the ways that they economized to have saved for the goal of home ownership.

No, it's not easy, and it sucks that so few people qualify for assistance, that there is a housing shortage, and little hope on the horizon for anything to change. As I wrote on the "1 in 3 Baby Boomers Say They'll Never Sell Their Home" thread, and sorry for dragging politics into it, but Kamala had a plan to fix the housing crisis — just another way in which just enough young people voted against their self interests to cost their entire generation(s) any opportunities to make their lives better.

Those dogs look like as much work as the condo.

Family money? Assistance from a parent?

Onlyfans?

Their stretchaneeny jeans cost 12 bucks, the sad ill-fitting black shirts, the same. They both have huge cocks and hawk them on Only Fans. A grandparent died and left one of them a quarter million, and the events organiser makes well over 6 figures on his own.

People's parents die and leave them homes to sell.

The one on the right is only 42 years old . He looks at least ten years older.

Successful cosmetic surgery malpractice lawsuits?

DINKS (dual income, no kids), regardless of sexual orientation, have it so much easier than straights when it comes to mortgages. They can generally scrap together the down payment and their combined incomes mean they qualify for bigger loans than us singletons.

Maybe the old fashioned way? They worked hard. They were thrifty. They saved. They were disciplined. They made a plan and stuck to it for years. . . . God. They sound boring.

R11 here. I meant to state "have it so much easier than single people"....

I'm glad they found each other because I can't imagine anyone else looking for them.

R11 What do you look like? I'm a remote worker. I can live anywhere. Let's get a third for a triple and we'll qualify for one big beautiful mortgage!

I come to DL for posts like r14

Jesus. A flight attendant and an events coordinator. I myself am gay man and I couldn’t even be that gay if I tried.

They both need to stop wearing skinny jeans. They're not doing the old one any favors.

"20% is the standard and widely recommended down payment for conventional loans in NYC and nationwide. This translates to $160,000 for an $800,000 apartment." Is it impossible two people with salaries could save it? They've been in Chicago which is a little cheaper. Maybe they got 50K from family or something.

I would slap myself if I ever spoke the sentence, "So we’re known as the fun ones of our friends.”

For the NY Times, the bigger issue is how these two guys choices will affect Joe Biden and the Democrats.

R20 Overly social attention whores who dabble in coke and leather.

[quote]This translates to $160,000 for an $800,000 apartment." Is it impossible two people with salaries could save it?

This is what I was thinking. Very few people their age have $160,000 (or even $120,000) just lying around for a mortgage. They have to shell out over $1000 a month for the fees on top of their mortgage. At least one of them must come from a wealthy family. Or else event planning earns you a lot more money than I thought.

R16- I JUST SAID THE SAME THING

And the winner of the DL CUNT OF THE WEEK AWARD GOES TO.......

Oh my god!!! R14!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I bow down, That made me laugh my ass off.

Assuming each of them has been working for 20 years, is it possible that they saved 60 to 80k each. If they invested some money in the market or Bitcoin they could have accumulated more. Plus some money from their family. Also frugal living. It’s not impossible.

They skip Starbucks every day.

I retired from corporate America a few years ago and have a part time job in the hospitality industry. One of my co-workers, a 20-something girl, told me she recently applied for a job as a flight attendant with United. Just for fun, I went to United's website to see what new flight attendants there get paid. I was shocked to see the starting rate is $23.84 per hour. That's less than I make per hour at my part time job, and I don't have even half the responsibilities a flight attendant would have.

Why would anyone want to be a flight attendant? That's a ridiculously low salary.

800k is nothing in the scheme of things In NYC

It's a small, but tasteful condo, and they seemed to actually have gotten it at a bargain price, though Washington Heights isn't exactly the most enviable location.

I think it's the lifestyle, r27. Pilots also earn shit money when they start their careers. I know someone who got hired as a first officer at Horizon Airlines and he quit after a year to go work in an office. The airlines take advantage of the people who really want those jobs.

It's Washington Heights not Park Ave. I bought a 2 BR place in Hells Kitchen in 2017 for 1.1 million but I put down a huge down payment. My mortgage and maintenance is still less than I'd be paying in my old rental downtown.

OP has no idea how mortgages work.

You can get a mortgage for 97% of the value of the property.

R11 not DINK, DILDO. (Double income little dog only).

R30 The airline industry has changed so much over the years. Air travel is now like taking a Greyhound bus, and airline employees are paid horribly and treated horribly.

My sister was a United flight attendant way back in the 1970s when they were still called "stewardesses." It was considered a prestigious job. She had a bunch of uniforms, different ones for different flight legs, and they were all designed by Oleg Cassini. She even had to wear a hat! All of her uniforms were dresses and skirts (no pantsuits), and of course, she had to wear heels! She got her picture in the local newspaper when she completed her training. Being a stewardess was a big deal back then, and she made $25,000 a year in the early 70s.

That was good money back then. She was stationed in Miami and could afford her own apartment there.

R27 Most people in the airline industry do it for the flight benefits, which aren't what they used to be. Flying standby can be dicey these days. There are fewer and fuller flights than in the past for cost savings.

I had a roommate years ago who worked for Delta and had access to standby flights. He told me it was common to miss flight after flight because none of them had open seats. He also said that certain routes like SEA-HNL never had open seats and it wasn't worth trying to get on those flights.

They could be Gamestop millionaires or IRA holders.

I thought people did away with choke collars. They don’t work with stubborn dogs and are overkill for more polite pooches.

[quote]Assuming each of them has been working for 20 years,

The flight attendant is 28 years old.

[quote]You can get a mortgage for 97% of the value of the property.

I think their debt to income would rule out a mortgage like that for them unless they had sizable assets stored away.

My guess is that the event coordinator is the one with the cash who makes the mortgage payments.

The air mattress husband probably covers utilities and groceries.

That was my thought, r39. I don't think being an event planner is some bullshit hand-to-mouth career. It's possible he makes very good money. OP is acting like they just bought a $5,000,000 apartment.

Do they have a mortgage?

R41 Pretty sure.

R17 putting a dick in your mouth will trump either of those things. Every time.

A clerk in a record store could afford an apartment in the 1970s.

They look and sound insufferable

I think being an event coordinator is a bullshit job even if it can pay well. I guess it's still service though like Downton Abbey.

I cant believe no one has mentioned this line from the article...

[quote] ... his mother cried out, “Who is this old hairy daddy waving to you?”

An event coordinator makes between $40 and 60K a year.

I bet they use their den to sell love and earn extra savings on weekends, OP.

Lottery winners? Isn't there a way to find out?

An event coordinator working for a corporation makes a lot more.

OMG - oldie and those jeans look ridiculous in the after picture in their hideous new place. I'm surprised Mom didn't mention those hips and thighs!

The steward’s family invented Ciabatta and the planner’s family invented snus. Yes, that’s it.

They had to expand the Kinsey scale for these guys.

I dunno. Base salaries seem huge now. Middle class is triple figure now? My best year was 1992 at 50,000.00. I have no relation with this new world.

r48 In NYC it is between 80k to 100k

If they didn't have any student debt, they could raise a lot of money.

Easy to raise money screwing on cam.

Can an FHA loan be used to buy a condo? The rules for that are that you must be a first time home buyer, meet certain other conditions, and then your down payment is only 5%. (In the case of an 800,000 condo. that would be $40,000). You are on the hook for mortgage insurance every month until you reach a certain level of equity.

Reading the article a little more closely, indeed I see the words, "They did some research and found that they qualified for a first-time buyer mortgage rate with a budget of up to $800,000."

To me, that implies that they didn't have to come up with a 20% down payment.

Parents that only have one kid can leave them a sizeable fortune (unfortunately I am one of a litter)

Maybe they wax their eyebrows at home instead of going to a salon.

All three properties are condos, so the usual starting point would be 10% cash, though there are also mortgages and first-time buyer assistances that might have meant a down payment if as little as 5% or even 3%.

Depending on the airline a flight attendant with some years of service could easily have a six-figure salary despite rather low starting salaries in the low 60,000s. Airlines seem to use training and probationary periods to keep salaries low, but eventually they can climb. The typical event planner salary is from a quick Google search about 90,000 annually in NYC, with a lot of upward range (100,00-150,000+) depending on employer, responsibilities of the position, etc.

Without a huge stretch if the imagination it's quite possible they have a combined income of 200,000 to 300,000 a year. Not at all a huge stretch as American mortgages are concerned, less for two people who don't have any evident expensive interests, who appear to live rather frugally,band who might we'll have received a bit of cash assistance from various parents -- a not uncommon thing.

It's a condo, not a strict co-op with minimum 50% cash and evidence of 10x the value of the property in liquid assets.

Can't wait til they're murdered by a Grindr trick.

[quote] "And we have a grand piano that moved with us, that’s been with me since I graduated college."

Yeah, well, I'm pretty sure your grand piano ain't gonna fit in any of those Washington Heights condos you're lookin' at, ladies.

[quote]Jesus. A flight attendant and an events coordinator. I myself am gay man and I couldn’t even be that gay if I tried.

Add the French Bulldogs and you have the trifecta of gayness, R17.

The event planner works at this place.

Slave...to the mortgage

R67 I still can't imagine Mr. Event Planner makes all that much money working for Daniel Boulod.

If he was working for a major corporation like Salesforce or Meta, maybe. But for a restaurant with 13 locations? Nah.

R58, even when you look like that?

The airline host looks cheerful and is cute enough to fuck. The florid older one bursting his stretchaneeny jeans, pass.

R71 No. Neither one is remotely fuckable.

And you just know they both smell like musty French bulldog hair.

you don't know my catholic taste in fuckable men. à chacun son goût.

R73 Your Catholicism must have really messed you up.

Have we decided their positions?

I do events on the corporate side and, yes, there is a very big difference between corporate and hospitality.

I do large conferences and sales incentive trips etc. Book talent, speakers, manage promotion, vendors, production, event apps, etc

We do have a team and a third party who manages the guest experience parts, which is more the hospitality side.

Neither are bullshit jobs, however. Whether it's a large user conference with the CEO on stage or a bridezilla North Jersey wedding, events are ridiculously expensive, very high profile and for those reasons very high risk.

[quote]Jordan Lombardo and Brad Senffner met on a dating app in 2017, but they didn’t link up in person until six months later — by accident.

Translated, that means they met on Grindr and fucked once but didn't follow up until they saw each other again, by accident, not even remembering that they had already fucked, but thought, six months later, that they looked vaguely hot from across the street.

Isn’t this a trope of those house hunting shows? Huge budget with oddball or seemingly low/moderate paying jobs?

They're two meh looking guys but nothing hideous. They seem harmless so why all the scorn.

We used to call them air mattresses because they were all slutty

[Quote] Translated, that means they met on Grindr and fucked once but didn't follow up until they saw each other again, by accident, not even remembering that they had already fucked, but thought, six months later, that they looked vaguely hot from across the street.

Only another gay can read between those line

I think they’re both sort of cute, actually

R79

Because any couple that agrees to be featured in one of these fatuous articles is probably a narcissistic stereotype.

So they set themselves up, and we follow through. They are expecting fame and adulation and we set them straight, so to speak.

The dog's name is Haarlem. Haarlem.

I would not shit on the event planner. I can only imagine the hellish cunts who must be humored. I hope he gets paid a lot of money to put up with what I imagine is a torrent of verbal abuse.

R47- As if her own precious baby is some kind of prize- NOT

I like them because I am convinced they put up with the lowest of the low: airplane passengers and insufferable New Yorkers who "bought" the right to abuse the event planner because they hondled to get the room at the restaurant on a Wednesday night.

I like them, because they seem happy in spite of this.

R74 you don't know the meaning of "catholic taste" with a small "c".

The one on the left TOTAL happy BOTTOM

the taller one has mondage in is jeans. You can see anything specific but the impression is large calibre cock and balls.

re: the money, OP. Let's just say when i made the "old, hairy, daddy" remark, I assumed some money came with all of that and that I wouldn't be hit up for a deposit!

botched c*ck enlargement/ass redesign legal payouts?🙄

One of them is 14 years older, so I'm wondering if he had more time to build up his savings.

Chicago is - or at least was - a more affordable place to live, and salaries in some industries can be generous, so it's possible they could have gotten to that 150-200K threshold with a big chunk of their own savings.

Obviously, a shopbottom or someone living in a city where there's a definite earnings ceiling (as there is in most smaller markets) couldn't swing that.

The guy on the left is truly EVERY Italian bottom in Pittsburgh.

[quote]botched c*ck enlargement/ass redesign legal payouts?🙄[/quote] "Ass Redesign"

Congratulations, R92! You tickeled my funny bone with that one.

R92 I'm almost certain you can spell out COCK in a DL post you fucking retard.

In which r96 describes herself in the last word of her post.

Different tastes in lighting and textiles oh dear

Want to wager a crisp $1 bill they reach a compromise in the neutral aisles of Ikea, R98?

An event planner in Des Moines doing bachelorette brunches is not the same thing as being an event planner in NYC. He might be making good money. By the looks of the company he works with @ r67, he is doing elaborate events for high income earners.

The question is-

Which of these 2 gals gets her pork chop violated from behind.

The ugly old man

Or the ugly young man?

This thread can be disbanded once this question is answered.

Show us on the vintage GI Joe doll where you were hurt as little boys in the 1960s To have such bitter snark about two amiable looking average gay dudes living their aspirational domestic life. Snark is fun but the "ugly old man" and "ugly young man" isn't witty snark.

[quote] This is what I was thinking. Very few people their age have $160,000 (or even $120,000) just lying around for a mortgage. They have to shell out over $1000 a month for the fees on top of their mortgage. At least one of them must come from a wealthy family. Or else event planning earns you a lot more money than I thought.

???? It's a lifesty!e choice. I had saved that much on my own in anticipation of buying a home by 38...nearly 20 years ago. I likely made less than what these guys make a year. I made the choice to forgo all of the extreme indulgences of being a young gay man with no kids. I didn't travel to circuit parties in Europe.

R101 It has to be the mustache guy. I’ve pondered this several times today.

[quote] I bet they use their den to sell love and earn extra savings on weekends, OP.

"Love that's fresh and still unspoiled / Love that's only SLIGHTLY soiled / Love for sale..."

That mustache one is a kinky fucker and you know it.

Claws out tonight ladies. Only answer is family inheritance or assistance. The 2 pedigree pups cost $ which is why they are not saving ever penny they make. They probably entertain and that costs money too. They got some cash, so good for them.

R107 And the cost to keep moving that fucking grand piano across the country can't be cheap, either.

r108 I'm going to guess that what this guy is calling a grand piano is either a baby grand (from 4'8 - 5'2, or a studio grand 5'8-6'0. It's almost certainly not a concert grand (9'0). A smaller grand would fit into an apartment ok, especially if there's any kind of nook where it could slide into. A concert grand can hardly fit into a modern 2000 sq foot home without evicting someone from their bedroom or altering the use of a room to a different purpose (no more dining room).

R109 is the shit tonight!

R109, Tori Amos uses a Bosendorfer- are they some of the finest pianos ever?

[query] Can an FHA loan be used to buy a condo?

R59 Yes, as long as the condo has applied for and received approval by the FHA as an FHA-eligible condo. The application process is not trivial and is often handled by an experienced attorney (which means it’s expensive). Condos should have strong reserve fund levels, a limited percentage of renters, a low delinquency rate of condo fee payments, and a history of maintaining a building’s infrastructure.

My cousin was an events planner for a large corporation and made 200,000 plus a year.

So he planned events not coordinated.