Catholicism sees major resurgence among Gen Z, with young men leading the revival

Nonsense, fewer people are going to church than ever

Idiots.

Oh, Christ.

Why do incels keep doing things that will just insure they will never get laid?

Bullshit - and from Fox News of course.

Besides that - a rise of 6% of what? 6% is close to being with margin of error.

This is just Catholic church PR and Fox News promoting religion. I suspect this is tied with a larger PR push around the first Millennial saint.

Liars.

So Gen Z men are catholic and Gen Z women are queer.

And to add Gen Z is the least sexually active generation on record.

Fox "News," OP?

Much safer to Gen Z women considering that women in red states can only get medieval health care.

So a whole new generation will learn what it’s like to be burned by the church.

OP why on earth are you giving faux news more clicks - or even acknowledging them at all?

It's not really the general Catholic types we need to worry about, though.

There's a strain of more right wing Catholic guys that are definitely feeling into the whole incel bro/evangelical trad community.

There's a writer I used to read, Aaron Renn.....when I read his stuff he was talking about city planning and that sort of thing, but slowly over the last several years he's become a looney tunes hard right Catholic. (Basically his wife left his ass and he became a huge pissy cunt about it.)

*definitely FEEDING, not feeling, sorry.

The future is going to be a very bad place

If I heard there was an increase in the Jesuit approach I might feel optimistic.

For those interested this is a decent summary of why Aaron Renn has become a bit of a celebrity in those circles.

There was a long NYT profile of him as well.

I'm a Catholic of a Franciscan upbringing. I know I'll be dragged to filth for stating that. I'm a gay man, too, and I feel like I belong here, even if I'm in a minority.

R8 R11 Harvard University conducted the study and reported the result, which was then reported on FOX News platforms. The study was not done by FOX. There's a big difference there.

If anyone has reservations about giving FOX 'clicks' then the answer is simple - don't. I've posted the article in the OP, no need to click on the link if it makes you uncomfortable.

The very recent and very large consolidations/mergers of Catholic parishes in the dioceses of Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, Baltimore, and St. Louis would, once again, indicate Faux Nrws is blowing shit out of their prolapsed holes.

This does not even include the very steep decline in Catholic elementary and high school attendance occurring in EVERY diocese in the USA.

Catholics raised catholic are usually fairly normal and span the political spectrum. My mostly still Catholic family are liberal and accept both me and my husband completely as family.

Converts, especially today, are more likely right to far right in political orientation, and they take the dogma and doctrines very seriously, but through a far-right lens. They'll ignore the church's more liberal stances on social justice, worker's rights and immigration, but go hard on opposing abortion and gay marriage. JD Vance epitomizes this type.

R20 very true, and I've read that in several places.

The congregants have generally always been more liberal or centrist than the Institution, itself.

[quote] Catholics raised catholic are usually fairly normal and span the political spectrum. My mostly still Catholic family are liberal and accept both me and my husband completely as family.

This has been my experience.

R18 - yes - but you do realize that let's say 7% of Gen Z considers themselves Catholic in 2024. A 6% increase would put that to 7.42%. So 0.42% overall difference - again within margin of error.

It's not the Harvard Study - it's that Fox News is making this sound like some resurgence - they are twisting the study.

Nothing gets old straight suburban white folks a bigger hard-on than hearing young people be conservative or religious.

That's why your link stinks OP. Do better and think.

Gen Z is very conservative and the girls are all about becoming trad wives.

R24 - some memes do not make it popular. It's called rage bait for clicks and views - and a lot of Gen Z know it. They're not all idiots.

R4, it would be better in a world if educated women with good jobs, that young uneducated men learn to eat pussy.

Oh believe me R21, there are still long-time wackos from the old guard. Hyper-pro-life types, people clinging to their rosaries and praying to the saints 24/7, using the parish priest (usually an elderly man with a personality disorder) as a life coach/therapist for every little road bump. It varies by parish, larger geography, and culture. Latino and Italian American Catholics are usually the most traditional/conservative. Irish Catholics are slightly more live and let live, but look at the St. Patricks parade controversies where city's are still banning gays from the parade. Suburban Catholics without a strong ethnic identity are probably closest to mainline Protestants in assimilation, especially if they are college educated.

R17 Franciscans are very open and welcoming to everyone in the Catholic faith (and out of it, too). Gay, straight, bi, etc. they have always had an open door for them and (in my area) have done much in the community.

I remember about 40 years ago, the Bishop (now deceased) of our diocese was openly going after liberal Catholic politicians who were very publicly pro-choice, and who were fighting a bill from being passed that would make abortion illegal in our (very Catholic liberal) state. Aside from the politicians, he went after any 'big name' who publicly opposed the legislation, including the woman who was head of Planned Parenthood. For weeks, he took out a full-page ad in the Sunday paper (paid by the diocese, of course, through parishoners' Sunday offerings) listing the names of everyone of these Catholics, and forbidding the Pastors of each of their parishes to give them Holy Communion at the altar during Sunday Mass. Of course, this was intentional to embarrass these Catholics on a very public level.

So where did they turn ? They all turned away from their parish and went straight to the Franciscans. I remember the chapel was filled every week, and the Franciscans - much to the dismay of the Bishop - gladly offered them Holy Communion. Since then (I was in my early 20s) I have respected the Franciscans and support them any way I can. (In the meantime, the bill never passed).

I think this is great news. Just because you hoes can't envision something greater and more transcendent than your lust and ass plugs, doesn't mean others don't have a broader perspective of the transcendent. So there.

R23 Why did you click on the link ? You can see it was from FOX.

R23 The Harvard study shows the 6% jump was from 15% to 21% among Gen Z males from 2022 -23.

I guess you deserve a trophy for trying, though.

R29, transcendence does not need an organized religious structure. Just the opposite.

Not including butt plugs...?7

Longe is here again.

Once I saw "butt plugs" on a post defending Catholicism, I couldn't hit block fast enough. That's a troll.

They're just desperate for social outlets. How many times can you go to Starbucks?

So unoriginal.

R31 - show me the study and where it shows that.

Otherwise you're an idiot to believe ANY Fox News infographic - they interpret their numbers how they like.

R29 - go back to licking the boots of child sex abusers. Just because you believe in this bullshit because of your upbringing, it doesn't make you more transcendent or above anyone else's perspective. You like to be spoon-fed answers from an organization that has a horrible history of abuse, murder and corruption. So there.

R37 needs her safe space. Forget the participation trophy.

"show me the study and where it shows that" - it's in the link, which you already clicked on, and which frightened you away.

Which link?

R38 - there is no link to the actually study - it just has Fox News. Stupid is as stupid does.

You probably really need to believe in your Pope and God since you don't have brains to rely on.

The Catholic Church better stop closing and selling off all those empty churches and schools, then!

They make great condo conversions r41

This is bull shit. Absolute bullshit lies

R41, the Catholic school near me has filled up since the pandemic since they opened back up almost a year before public schools. They’re still at capacity.

That article is a mess. I'd love to see the relevant parts of this never-to-be-named Harvard study, or maybe Harvard poll, the article says one thing in the text and another in a picture caption. Also, it's just wrong wording to say there is a 6% increase if there's actually a rise of 6 percentage points from 15% to 21%. That's a different thing. Finally it's left unclear whether that's now 21% of all Gen Zers, or just Gen Z males. It seems to be 21% of all Gen Z identify as Catholic, a big one year jump, but then why all the blather about how young men in particular are flocking to the Church, rather than young people generally.

As I say, a big mess, and would love to know the exact wording in the mysterious "study" and what exactly it was saying.

[quote]Catholics raised catholic are usually fairly normal and span the political spectrum. My mostly still Catholic family are liberal and accept both me and my husband completely as family.

[quote]Converts, especially today, are more likely right to far right in political orientation, and they take the dogma and doctrines very seriously, but through a far-right lens. They'll ignore the church's more liberal stances on social justice, worker's rights and immigration, but go hard on opposing abortion and gay marriage. JD Vance epitomizes this type.

I had a similar experience. I was raised Catholic, my dad's side of the family are moderates who lean left or are liberal. My mom's side of the family is mostly moderate or liberal. My mom was the youngest of 8 siblings. One sister and one brother were very homophobic (both are now deceased) My homophobe aunt's son is very hard core right wing Catholic and he's more conservative on certain issues that my aunt was. Her son is very much against programs like EBT, welfare, pell grants, etc. My aunt was a social worker and worked with homeless and disabled people. She had no issues with homeless people using government assistance programs on temporary basis.

I noticed the same thing with converts. A high school classmate who attended the same parish as my family married a guy who was raised Jehovah Witness. He converted prior to getting married. They are now far right wingers and have 11 kids. I worked with a woman years ago who converted from Presbyterian to Catholic and she is now a MAGA nutcase and her kids no longer have contact with her.

One good example of a convert who is a very conservative is anti-choice activist Rebecca Kiessling. She was adopted as an infant by Jewish family who lived in an upper middle class Detroit surburb. Kiessling as adult found out that she was a product of rape when she met her biological mother. Kiessling later converted Catholicism. Kiessling is also an attorney who is heavily involved with Right to Life Michigan. Kiessling and her group have tried to find ways to make abortion access harder in Michigan, but most of their efforts were defeated.

The real threat, as always, is the Evangelical White Supremacists recruiting dumbass, poorly socialized Incels, who are promised women who submit to them.

Gospel of the Dumbass

It is easier for under educated men, wanting to partner with educated high earning women, to learn how to eat pussy.

They don't need you, guys. What do you bring to the table?

Gen Z men are the ugly chicks of the 80s who had to learn how to give a great blowjob or be ignored.

Those girls got master's degrees. The alternative is that dumbass Incels go back to school.

R29 "you hoes can't envision something greater and more transcendent than your lust and ass plugs,".

Im dialling up the volume on your remote plug, closet whore.

I take pleasure in driving by my now closed Catholic high school.

They're having trouble unloading it so there it sits , exactly as it was when it was open.

I'm not buying into any kind of "resurgence".

[quote]the Catholic school near me has filled up since the pandemic since they opened back up almost a year before public schools. They’re still at capacity.

Same with the one in my neighborhood. My neighbor's son just finished middle school, and applied for admittance to this Catholic high school last Fall. He's been accepted, but there is a two year waiting list to get in - so the earliest he can get in would be his junior year (he would need to go to another high school for his first two years). It's been like this since the pandemic. And it's so expensive to get into (but the alumn from that school claim they got the best education there).

They are currently going through another major expansion there, taking over the property next door vacated by a bank (thank you Chase Bank for coming into our area, buying a small local bank chain and closing them down once you transferred everyone's account to 'Chase'). This is the second major expansion they have undertaken in the past ten years - the last one was a state of the art athletic center.

Does the study take account of demographics? Are the recruits from traditional Catholic backgrounds (eg of Hispanic or eastern European background), or are they from other backgrounds?

R51 Why, exactly, would that matter ? The study shows a resurgence in Catholicism among men under 30. When there was a decline among these men over the past decades, no one asked about the demographics - they just said younger men were leaving the Catholic religion.

They’re not joining Catholicism so much as invading it to lend the credibility of religious aesthetics to their reactionary and white supremacist politics.

The patriarchy is alive and well — now in the hands of pimpled, angry young men with severe body dysmorphia and a fear of intimacy; all while resentfully still living with their parents.

The liberal priest at my church said the current crop of seminarians is very conservative.

r55 It's not unusual for a group to become more reactionary as its influence wanes and the libs just stop showing up. It's happening in my country as well.

Just an observation. I wonder if the over lap of Fox and EWTN ( Hypocrite Raymond Arroyo ) is inspiring this interest in Catholicism?

You mean ‘’Money Changer’’ Arroyo.

The interest in Catholicism is just the latest alt-right trend. It's not that complicated. They see Catholicism as the most "traditional" and "pure" form of Western Christianity, so they're embracing it. They love the Tridentine Mass and Opus Dei, and hate the reforms of Vatican II. They think Francis was too "woke" and many don't consider him or any pope past Pius XII to be legitimate (and look up Pius XII's record during WWII for some context).

Many of these converts come from evangelical sects that demonize Catholicism, so it's "edgy" for some of them, and you know how these types love to shock and subvert expected norms. Others come from mainline Protestant denominations that they've left for being too liberal, ordaining women and performing same-sex marriages.

Maybe it was Fox news, but younger people don't watch much live TV and certainly not TV news. They're radicalized by the alt-right online, as well all should know by now.

This is working out very well for them.

I notice on Catholic Reddit that the conservative young men (often converts) in the church are drawn to the many rules and delight in explaining them to others. I’m one of those cafeteria Catholics who horrify them.

[quote]You mean ‘’Money Changer’’ Arroyo.

WHAT ? Please, do explain.

Am I the only one who thinks Arroyo could pass as Paul Reuben's twin brother ?

Incels in training who will be looking for tradwife material. A tale as old as time, just different terminology.

Well, the government is currently in the process of deporting a lot of Catholics, so those percentages might need to be adjusted because they're a little too optimistic (which is a polite way of saying this reporting and data have been massaged to sound like a resurgence when it's not.)

They're not incels if they're looking for a wife. We can just call them far right loonies, it's more accurate.

R65 - incels are always looking for a wife or girlfriend or at least to get laid. That's their entire motivation. That's the core reason behind all of their whining and complaining.

[quote] Many of these converts come from evangelical sects that demonize Catholicism, so it's "edgy" for some of them, and you know how these types love to shock and subvert expected norms. Others come from mainline Protestant denominations that they've left for being too liberal, ordaining women and performing same-sex marriages.

There are a bunch of YouTube Channels that mostly on Catholic converts. The videos are a mix of former Evangelicals and former mainline Protestants. I saw of a video a young woman who worked in administration at an non-denominal mega church and became Catholic through friends.

But none of them are converting to Episcopalianism? . They have no idea what OG Jesus Christianity is all about.

They are looking for the submissive wife.

The Catholics I know who want to go to church somewhere have signed up with the Episcopalians.

Especially those Catholics who do not want their donations to go for pedophile settlements.

The Southern Baptists, Mormons and Catholics are not religions, they are Religious Businesses. If your religion has a stock portfolio, you are worshiping Greed Is Good Jesus.