Will Smith says Oscars slap fallout was brutal

It won't work, Will. You are ovah.

His wife turning him into the world’s #1 cuckold did more damage than the slap.

Of course Will himself is NOT brutal.

Too bad the addiction wasn't to not assault others.

[Quote] "The addiction to the approval of others that I had to dissolve, it was brutal."

Pure concentrated narcissism right there, on full display.

He assaults someone on national tv, people disapprove (shocking!), and … what’s his takeaway?

It’s not, “they’re upset and rightly so. I need to behave better.”

It’s, “people are upset with me so … I need to stop looking for the approval of others.”

I agree with R2. I still blame Jada for all of this. The woman made him a laughing stock. I know it's "cheaper to keep her," but I'd give up half just to get her out of my life. That woman is toxic.

why the fuck do they stay together? no pre nup?

The worst thing is he still won an Oscar like thirty minutes later.

I agree, R8. That he wasn’t escorted out and dumped out in the street is the scandal. That they awarded him (with a standing O, no less) minutes later is staggering.

Also, he took a dump on what was Questlove’s big moment. His was the Oscar awarded right after the slap, not that anyone remembers.

Will Smith is GARBAGE.

And this former Oscar obsessee hasn’t watched since.

I cannot believe they let him stay.

Merman threw someone out 70 years before for less!

Twat.

And the people who stood up!!! For his standing O... just goes to prove they are a bunch of phonies

Closeted faggot

Jada is a "grade-A Lesbiana cunt"

The fallout wasn’t brutal ENOUGH. He should be shunned from the industry permanently.

Lying weasel.

The Oscars have a world audience of a billion, at minimum.

Does he thinking disrupting the show that way would give him a free pass??

Interesting that he call it just “a mistake.”

There really is nothing he can say to make this right — but what he has said has only made it worse.

He should have been arrested for assault, plain and simple. I'm still baffled he didn't get in trouble with the law. Well, unless it was staged and everyone was in on it.

"went into the internal work " aka getting fucked by Duane Martin

Will and Jada are Scientos, which means he can't do any real therapy.

The standing ovation may turn out to be the final nail in the coffin of old-school movie stardom. It exposed the mindless sheep in Hollywood standing up to applaud someone who’d committed assault on an international stage half an hour earlier.

All the self-aggrandizing, finger-wagging speechifying at the awards podium had already become a joke (literally, from Ricky Gervais), but the hypocrisy of the celebrity set was laid bare in a way that couldn’t have been better scripted by Hollywood screenwriters.

The bigger scandal than the slap was the standing ovation that followed it.

[quote] why the fuck do they stay together? no pre nup?

She’s a true malignant narcissist and he’s a far lesser type. The codependency is at a chemical level at this point. He’s far too gone to comprehend the manipulation and she’s far too evil to stop.

Their lives are beyond toxic.

Good. The entire thing was unhinged and I will never be able to see him on a screen without thinking he’s a lunatic IRL.

R24 = Shaft.

Yes, he's the victim in all this. Brutalized!

(Eyeroll).

This would be an impressive level of insight for your six year old - finally realizing discipline or punishment results from their own actions and isn’t just an irrational attack against them.

I think the man had been pushed and pushed and pushed and something exploded on Oscar night. He should have waited until the after-party, but what are you going to do.

As for the standing ovation, I think people were either still stunned or thought it was some kind of skit and still didn't realize it was real.

R24 = idiot

He looks miserable. And his wife is toxic for his brand. The wife needs to be jettisoned. There is always room for performers who have made as much money as he did but the world has changed and his image has been damaged. Smith is receiving bad counsel. After showing his entire ass at the Oscars, it would have been best to withhold his award and escort him and his people from the premises. It didn't occur to any of them, especially the wife who like any little people, has a huge chip on her shoulder, that you can not recover from such an awful blunder.

Get rid of your team including your wife and kids, Mr.Smith. It's not 1998 anymore, LP releases and cross branding and music videos? People consume more media than ever, but not like this. Take a break, regroup.

They could have removed him and have Chris Rock accept the award on his behalf.

Yes, r28 poor Will. He's the real victim He was constantly being pushed - worldwide fame for decades, millions of fans, vast wealth, on the verge of winning an Oscar, etc. Who could blame him for taking his misplaced anger out in front of a worldwide audience?

He has no excuse. Even if he got a divorce and she got half his money. He'd still have enough for 3 lifetimes.

He always looks like he is on the verge of tears. Crying is good for you but if you're crying all the fucking time, something is wrong. You don't need to be fixed, you need to heal and a cult can't heal you.

R24=shitstain.

Idiot seems to be the tepid nancyboy insult around here.

Why are you sticking up for Chris Rock who by all accounts is a cunt. You people don't know what actual violence is.

You weren't raised correctly. It's inappropriate to assault, insult and harass your peers. Keep your hands to yourself. Stay your drunk ass home.

R24 = Will or someone with a long rap sheet

Alexyss K. Tylor knows.

Boo-fucking-hoo

[Quote] I don't care about Will Smith or Chris Rock generally but the facts are Chris Rock is a cunt and a pussy, that was a bitch slap not a punch and it would be a nothing burger if it was on the street, not televized.

But it was done on a worldwide stage—movies’ biggest celebration.

[quote] I think the man had been pushed and pushed and pushed and something exploded on Oscar night.

How much can one man be expected to take?? He had been so voiceless and unprivileged up until that night.

Smith refers to himself in the piece in the 3rd person as "Will Smith", which is a sign he's really gone deep into his narcissism.

"The addiction to the approval of JADA that I had to dissolve, it was brutal." FIFY.

He would never have been in this mess if it wasn't for Jada. And she has shown she doesn't give a fuck. She's beyond a narcissist. Fucking your son's friend? WTH? Then bringing your husband on your show to talk about it - humiliate him and say you did it 'because I wanted to feel good'. WHA?

I really think if he dropped Jada, a lot would be forgiven. But you're staying with this toxic woman for what reason?

I think she has blackmail on him - a lot of it.

Very few people care about Will Smith and his brand anymore. He canceled himself. Sorry he doesn't like the repercussions of his actions now? Suck it up buttercup.

He showed the world the level of crazy he was living in and with, and took it out on someone in the most public way possible, with no need to. He is OVER, DONE.

Sadly some healing is still needed.

Culture is destiny.

Beat her.

As long as he is not honest about himself, he will continue to internalise self-hatred.

I agree @R24

I haven[t watched or cared about the Academy Awards since then.

FUCK THIS PHONY.

Here's the thing - all he has to do is read the internet the past 3 years.

Everyone is saying to ditch Jada. Honestly, if he does that, things can mend. But people do not like them together - and he should know that crazy bitch isn't good for him by now.

She must have some real dirt on him.

[quote]Everyone is saying to ditch Jada. Honestly, if he does that, things can mend.

Why do you say that? She may be a huge part of the problem, but she's certainly not all of it. Don't you think he's a narcissistic POS in his own right?

I think they have a comfortable arrangement. I also think she's just as gay as he is, but Scientology frowns on that, so they've found a good workaround.

[quote]I also think she's just as gay as he is, but Scientology frowns on that, so they've found a good workaround.

Do you mean you think they've always been bearding for each other because Scientology vastly prefers that to their being openly gay? That sounds plausible, and presumably the Scientos have that information to hold over them -- especially over Will -- to keep him in line and keep him giving presumably huge amounts of money to them, with the threat they would expose him and ruin his career if he ever left Scientology or stepped out of line.

[quote]Do you mean you think they've always been bearding for each other because Scientology vastly prefers that to their being openly gay?

Yes. Scentos, from what I understand, are not pro gay. Someone on here, years ago, explained the church's position.

Yes, R56, it's common knowledge that they are NOT pro-gay, which is one reason why your theory that Jada and Will have been bearding for each other all these years sounds plausible. In case you haven't hears, some people think the Scientos have kept other stars in line by threatening them with exposure as gay, including possibly Tom Cruise, John Travolta, and others.

Who cares?

Travolta being the most convincing example.

The Hood comes to the Oscars.

If he’s still alive the fall out wasn’t brutal enough.I always hated that prick. Wild Wild West-please.

He likes sex with men, is attracted to men, but cannot balance that with his public persona and growing up having to be macho. He is violent to his male partners, one getting so badly beaten he nearly died and threatend to sue him.

R46 Tell us about it. You see wtf we dealing with because of white people.

Should have been taken out in handcuffs.

And the Oscar should have been rescinded.

He’s a typical American black. ALWAYS with the victimhood mentality. The violent behavior is ALWAYS someone else’s fault.

How cucked is Will that he’s about to win an Oscar - that he probably knows he’s going to win in about 30 minutes - that he goes up on stage to slap Rock for telling a lame joke about Jada. More than anything, it was a bizarre overreaction when initially you could see Will laugh at the joke. Either Jada pushed him in the moment to react like the good little cuck he is, or he’s got mental issues. Though the two aren’t mutually exclusive. But he should have been on a high, so his flex was bizarre.

FF R24

Will was being weird all night. Overly emotional and teary. Should have stayed his drunk ass home.

This bitch is going to find out about not being able to control your emotions. If Mike Epps was hosting, he wouldn’t have done that shit because he knows he would have been laid the fuck out in front of 23 million people.

Agree with all about how he should have been escorted out and how horrible it was having everyone applauding shortly after.

What astounds me is the level of oblivion and narcissism. You never got an actual apology or any sort of real contrition. Even now, he makes it all about himself. Despicable.

And whatever Jada has done or has on him, ultimately he is a fifty year old guy. There is a limit to blaming others to your actions. If he is so submissive to her, that is fully on him.

Like many celebrities who become involved in scandals, it is not actually the scandal that kills their career, but rather it is the fact that the scandal somehow reveals that the “beloved” celeb was not really very popular at all.

Honestly, has the public really missed Will Smith over the past few years?

Ww r21

I saw that Will Smith was cracking in this Youtube docuseries that he put out in 2021 before THE SLAP. The King Richard and Covid weight gain and writing his memoir spiraled him into a major midlife crisis (along with that horrible reveal of Jada's affair).

Its also worth nothing that the singer who Jada had an affair with (August Alsina) is now out as gay now with a long term boyfriend.

When you take on Chris Rock you need to finish him

I think it’s worth noting the something like this HAS happened before… Russell Crowe snapped at BAFTA and lost a near-certain second Oscar.

There seems to be some oversight on the psychological effect of “award season.” It is brutal.

ChatGPT:

Awards Season as a Prolonged Psychological Endurance Test

• Duration & Intensity: Campaigns last months, with actors having to constantly perform charm, humility, and graciousness — all while being scrutinized at every angle (clothes, speech, body language, personal life).

• Will Smith: Spent months on a grueling, emotionally confessional campaign for King Richard, presenting himself as the elder statesman of Hollywood. By Oscar night, he was visibly frayed.

Public Persona vs. Private Self

• Awards season demands that nominees sculpt a digestible, PR-friendly identity. The gap between this version and their private self can create a psychic rupture.

• Will Smith: Built a pristine, carefully manicured public image over decades. The Oscar slap shattered it in five seconds, revealing deep emotional repression.

Awards Season as Psychological Exposure

• In interviews, actors must dig into their traumas to “humanize” their roles. This emotional striptease is praised but leaves people raw.

• Smith’s campaign involved repeated retellings of abuse, control issues, and emotional disintegration.

Performing Gratitude While Dying Inside

• Nominees must constantly express gratitude and humility, even when losing. The ritual humiliation of public defeat — cameras catching your “reaction face” — is psychologically degrading.

He's trying so hard with his apology tour. His movies flop. His albums flop. He's over

R75, when you're paid millions for a movie role, do you think it's because of your grand talent? No, it's because all the awards season stuff and the annoying fans come along with the package.

[quote] Its also worth nothing that the singer who Jada had an affair with (August Alsina) is now out as gay now with a long term boyfriend.

She seems to have that affect on men.

I can't imagine how stupid Smith must be (on top of the Scientology cult insanity). What did he think was going to happen when he climbed up on stage and physically assaulted a peer while being filmed and seen by millions of people!

His major attraction was that he was a likeable actor. He killed his career in that instant and it can't be repaired to the people who pay for and supported his career (the public). He must be mind-numbingly stupid. And his wife is toxic and insufferable which also equals mind-numbingly stupid.

Both of their public lives and Hollywood careers are dead in the water. He should just be thankful for what he had and move on and enjoy the rest of his life because it's all downhill and self-inflicted humiliation from here.

Does the public still love a comeback? I'd say it's still too soon but I can see it happening down the road with the right role. And major changes in his life.

i do love a comeback. i root for the underdog. hes not an underdog, hes a performer who made the entertainment industry billions. there's room for someone who has made so much money for 1 industry, but he needs a clean up/exorcism/psychiatric treatment/medication/ cult deprogramming/divorce.

He should talk more about how Cleopatra was black.

R82 Why troll a thread concerning a millionaire troll, suffering from narcissistic rage?

Does Jada still do her narcissistic, emasculating “Red Table” crap with her junkie, slut mom? That garbage precipitated the beginning of the end for that brood.

He has always, even way before the slap, made me cringe. The slap was undoubtedly awful, and he deserved the shunning he got. However, I do think that folks, even ones I don't like, should get a chance at redemption. He still makes me cringe, though.

R80- I doubt they’ll ever be a comeback. He’s just not good of an actor to pull off the kind of comeback role he needs.

he was very lucky, man and shit on it.

They should enjoy their big pile of money, and just be quiet for a few decades.

He needs to disappear for a while. Several years. Redemption requires taking responsibility.

I should have been more specific. And the arrogance needs to drop a few more notches.

What do you mean? He just recently did a Bad Boys movie that was a huge hit. People who are over aren't pulling a half a billion dollars at the box office.

To be pilloried publicly for slapping and clapping by all comers, first dibs Chris Rock, might do the trick.

His album flopped to the worst numbers of his entire career, not cracking the top 200. And he has no projects upcoming in front of the camera. His best bet is to stay down low, quietly involved in production.

R90 Imma get these black traitors on my Red Table Talk chile’.

He's got $350M. He should take a decade off, wander the world, get therapy, get spiritual, release an acoustic album, a book of poetry, an autobiography, return in his 60s and get wise man or aged secret heroes roles.

His movie comeback in a decade will be a supporting role

Jada-that’s what they call her.

Has GAYle King commented? It's not official until we get her opinion.

R5 said it best

The closet kills.

It saddens me how much of a fall he's taken - he was an A-list star for over 30 years. That's incredibly difficult to maintain that type of popularity and it's extremely rare.

Unlike Tom Cruise and Mel Gibson, both who have said offensive and stupid stuff and have acted really weird over YEARS, Will did one awful incident - slapping a comedian.

In the grand scheme of things, this should be forgivable when compared to Kevin Spacey, Cruise, Gibson and others who have fallen. But when you're still 'with' this person who has embarrassed him and who has said some really out there stuff (Jada indeed has), people cannot support someone who is in what looks like an abusive situation. Mo'nique is kind of similar - it's like they've both left their mind under the control of their spouses.

Unfortunately, this also came at a time when roles would be more difficult to get. Once you're past 55, you've aged out of action films and a lot of romcom.

He deserves a 2nd chance, if he dumps Jada. It was completely inappropriate and way too public. But he didn't say anything offensive against groups of people or stated positions that are anti-science or whatever.

r98 the difference is he did it Live in front of millions at hallowed ground. There is not a lot of coming back from that if you don't just take reponsibility head on.

R99 - Yeah I agree - the absolute WORST place to do this - both in front of the most powerful people in the Hollywood and telecasting that to billions of fans/consumers around the world. It really was the worst place and the worst time.

But - it's still a slap. To me, it's not remotely on par with Spacey, Cruise, Gibson, Barr, Weinstein, Cosby, Louis C.K. - the list goes on an on.

It shouldn't be dismissed as it should never be tolerated - but big picture, a one-off that hurt him a ton more than it hurt anyone else, including Chris Rock.

[quote]He deserves a 2nd chance...if he dumps Jada

Dumps Jada or re-declares his undying worm-like love of her...who fucking cares? What does that have anything to do with, any more than what color underwear he prefers?

FFS, why does someone with a 30 year career and a net worth of $350 Million who stood before his peers and the world and gave his best, most ferocious sissy slap to an equally famous awards presenter deserve a second chance?

Whether he makes anything of his career again or fumbles around forever trying, I don't give a fuck. I never liked his too eager to please nervousness, his stupid psychobabble, and acting that's only passable if you've never seen him anything previously.

We should feel sorry for this this man who assaulted another one stage and set him back on track to raise his net worth to...$500 Million? I don't get it

Whataboutism, especially regarding the vagaries of public opinion, is childish and unpersuasive.

Try a different tactic.

"Working in that space of authenticity, honesty and imperfection, allowing that to grow into a higher perfection than the imagery of Will Smith is where I am as an artist and as a human right now."

Did Cynthia and Arianna ghost write this?

I really think he must have been high on coke when he slapped Chris Rock. There aren’t very many reasons why someone could have POSSIBLY thought that was a good idea under those specific circumstances. Coke is something that can overcome those protective inhibitions.

[quote]"Working in that space of authenticity, honesty and imperfection, allowing that to grow into a higher perfection than the imagery of Will Smith is where I am as an artist and as a human right now."

This statement sounds especially and unbearably fake because it's laughable to think this particular person has the vocabulary and language skills to put such thoughts together. I mean, even if you like Will Smith as a performer and/or as a person, he has never been accused of being an intellectual.

What kind of propaganda is that at R106? IMDb shows him in zero films in actual production and with no films released since last year.

Smith has been a POS and a poor excuse for an actor ever since he refused to kiss a man, which was a crucial part of the plot in Six Degrees of Separation.

R84 Why are you calling her mom a junkie and a slut when she’s been clean for decades.

"Working in that space of authenticity, honesty and imperfection, allowing that to grow into a higher perfection than the imagery of Will Smith is where I am as an artist and as a human right now."

THAT is Jada speak - have you seen her show? Seriously - she thinks she's really deep and spiritual and says shit like this all the time. It's what a dumb person thinks intelligence sounds like.

Will wouldn't say crap like that. So weird and culty way of talking. But - make no doubts - that's Jada's handwriting or thoughts being spoon fed to him.

R109 A small faction.

Why does it matter whether he divorces the wife or not?

He slapped someone, not her.

If he thinks this fallout is brutal, imagine if he was a white actor who strode onstage and socked Chris Rock after a joke.

I mean, how many of us can go up and hit someone in the face at work in front of everyone and if we did, what would the fall out be? He is trying to act like he is suffering as a public figure who made a mistake- but it was actually a pretty crazy mistake, it wasn't minor. None of us would keep our jobs either and our reputations would suffer as well.

R112 A white actor of Will’s stature wouldn’t have did it. Will felt small and insecure during that moment so he wanted to make Chris feel small and insecure. That’s what those who undergo narcissistic rage do. They cannot control that image when that ego has been brutally hurt to such a degree.

But I know my black people. If it were Eddie Griffin, Deray Davis, hell even Steve Harvey bitch ass, not nay buttock would have risen from seat. I I said what the fuck I said.

R100 all the people you listed don't really have careers, except Cruise (and, while I loathe him, I'm not sure why he's lumped in with the others listed. Is his crime couch jumping or just his off putting weird cult shit?)

So, I guess I'm having trouble getting your point.

To go down your list:

Gibson is a drunk, anti-Semitic monster but calling someone Sugar Tits isn't a crime. Gross and disgusting. But not a crime. Yet his career was basically over after that tape leaked.

Barr and Spacey totally lost their careers for their horrible choices (though Spacey seems to be more a sex pest than a criminal).

Harvey, Cosby, Louis all got cancelled and deserved to get cancelled. They committed crimes. Lost careers. Lost freedom (at least for a while).

Will committed a crime too. He just wasn't charged. And he lost his career.

Seems like the punishments for all their respective crimes have been pretty evenly handed out.

Do you give Will more grace because it wasn't a sex crime? Because I do not.