Removing fluoride from water could result in 25 million cavities and cost $9.8 billion

No shit, Sherlock.

Only for the poorest kids, of course. The rich kids’ parents will be sure they get fluoride.

BBC says “In Europe, a 2018 report found that, of 28 EU nations, only Ireland, parts of the UK and Spain currently fluoridate their water supplies. Eleven countries had done so in the past but stopped. Fourteen never started.”

I guess we will all have janky Euroteeth!

What’s the rationale behind NOT fluoridizing the water?

A list of the countries with the healthiest teeth.

We think ceasing fluoridation is an absolutely swell idea!

The rationale is that flouride is "impurifying our precious bodily fluids."

95% of the world doesn't add fluoride to water, r4. It's rare in Europe, for example, and, no, we don't naturally have more fluoride in our water.

R5's link shows that seven out of ten of the top ten countries in the world with the healthiest teeth are in Europe, where water fluoridation is rare.

[quote]Many European countries have rejected water fluoridation, including: Austria, Belgium, Finland, France, Germany, Hungary, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Northern Ireland, Norway, Sweden, Switzerland,[68] Scotland,[69] Iceland, and Italy.[70] A 2003 survey of over 500 Europeans from 16 countries concluded that "the vast majority of people opposed water fluoridation".[71]

Many European countries actually fluoridate salt and milk, which is why they don’t feel a need to fluoridate water.

Other European countries already have naturally fluoridated water.

This is why many don’t fluoridate water—not because they find harm in it. In fact, all these countries state that fluoridation is essential to good oral health

Here’s the link about what European countries do:

Always fun when people try to explain that we should do something because Europe does it… but get very quiet when you bring up universal healthcare

Which European countries fluoridate salt and milk on a widespread basis as opposed to maybe having some items in some specialised shops that you can buy if you're specially looking for it, r9?

R12, see link at R10

R12, the link says fluoridated salt reached 70 million Europeans—so a whole bunch of them

[quote]Many European countries actually fluoridate salt and milk, which is why they don’t feel a need to fluoridate water. Other European countries already have naturally fluoridated water. This is why many don’t fluoridate water—not because they find harm in it. In fact, all these countries state that fluoridation is essential to good oral health

What a bullshit article.

Ya gotta love this: "Fluoridated water reaches more than 13 million Europeans."

The population of Europe is circa 745 million people.

Fluoride in milk? There are no hard facts about this. The extent of its use etc. And the point is it's a choice rather than something imposed on you. Anyway, I lived nearly 4 decades in Italy and never heard of fluoride in milk. And the EU is very strict about labeling. Show me the labels. And why is it I can find no mention of brands of milk that are fluoridated? What are they?

Floride in salt? What brands? List them please. All I've ever seen in Europe is sea salt.

And this one: "Some areas of Europe have water that is naturally fluoridated." And so does the US. Actually fluoride is naturally present in all water sources. Duh.

Soylibs are too beta to get a dental surgery. Scared of the pain cupcake?

The link at r10 is hardly reliable. It's cherry-picked, very inaccurate and highly spun to promote its position on adding fluoride to water. Oddly, despite claiming widespread addition of fluoride in other forms in Europe, e.g. in salt and milk, it doesn't advocate for those methods but advocates for the method that Europeans don't use, i.e. adding fluoride to water.

As a European who has lived in and travelled between several European countries, I'm quite confident in saying that not only is it not common for European countries to add fluoride to the water system, it's also very uncommon to find fluoride added to milk or salt. And it's not just Europe, but a lot of the world. The current US practice of adding fluoride to water is the outlier.

This is a possibility of flouride exposure and cancer risk.