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Dawn French’s moronic outburst on Israel spells the death of celebrity virtue-signalling

No, Dawn French, 7 October was not a ‘bad fing’

The cultural elite’s minimisation of Hamas’s pogrom is truly repulsive.

I hope someone has stored for posterity Dawn French’s haughty, mewling moan about Israel. For when future historians come to study the sewer of sanctimony daft celebs gaily waded in in the early 21st century, they could do a lot worse than watch this clip. Nothing will sharpen their analysis of the pomposity of our times better than checking out this 40-second vid in which a past-it comic famous for playing a horny vicar holds forth on a foreign war for the clicks and likes of strangers on the internet.

Yes, at last, the former Vicar of Dibley, one half of French and Saunders, the voice of those annoying M&S ads, has given her thoughts on the Gaza war. We’ve heard from the pope, from presidents and now from the woman whose job is tickling the ribs of Radio 4 listeners by saying the word ‘twat’ a lot. You won’t believe what she thinks. Brace yourselves: Israel is bad. ‘NO’, she says to Israel about its war in Gaza. One envisions IDF soldiers laying down their guns. ‘Guys, call off the war against the fascist scum who raped and murdered our people – Lenny Henry’s ex-wife says no!’

The conceit of her selfie sermon is to reel off what she imagines to be Israel’s justifications for its war and then say a firm ‘NO’ to each of them. Israel, she says, will say Hamas did a ‘bad thing’ to us, or that Israelis have a God-given right to the land of Gaza, or that Palestinians ‘aren’t even really people’, and each time she lets the errant little fucker of a nation know what she thinks: ‘NO.’ Strikingly, she adopts an irksome baby voice when mimicking whiny Israel but says ‘NO’ in her own dulcet, national-treasure tones. The imperiousness is off the scale: a self-styled adult of the British cultural establishment chiding the capricious infant that is the State of Israel. This is not just self-importance – this is M&S self-importance. It’s her use of the term ‘bad thing’ that has caused a stink. Or ‘bad fing’, as she says, because remember she’s doing Israel as the irascible brat of world affairs that can’t even speak proper. She’s referring to Hamas’s pogrom of 7 October 2023. ‘Bad thing’, Dawn? Are you for real? The bloodiest slaughter of Jews since the Holocaust? The rape of young Jewish women at a music festival? The burning alive of Jewish families? Writing that off as a ‘bad thing’ – worse, a ‘bad fing’ – is as gross a minimisation of Jewish suffering as I have seen in the 20 months since that darkest of days.

How sick to ‘minimise’ the ‘severity’ of 7 October, said Heidi Bachram, whose husband lost family in Hamas’s carnival of anti-Semitic violence. Actress Tracy-Ann Oberman lamented French’s ‘mocking’ tone. It is hard to imagine the moral pretenders of the faux-virtuous elite describing any other act of racist butchery as a ‘bad fing’. Imagine if someone said that about the anti-Muslim savagery at the Christchurch mosques in 2019 or about any of Boko Haram’s ferocious assaults on Christian girls. It is a testament to the lazy, bleak animus for Israel that has taken hold in cultural circles that someone like French could even think this about 7 October, never mind film herself saying it out loud.

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by Anonymousreply 30June 10, 2025 8:58 PM

Meh, who cares.

by Anonymousreply 1June 10, 2025 3:59 AM

[quote]‘Guys, call off the war against the fascist scum who raped and murdered our people – Lenny Henry’s ex-wife says no!’

I disagree with her stance, but I love her regardless and find this sentence really misogynistic for no reason. She's done a hell of a lot more in her life than Lenny fucking Henry. You can disagree with what she's saying without diminishing her entire career in this gross way.

by Anonymousreply 2June 10, 2025 4:02 AM

[quote]the death of celebrity virtue-signalling

Agreed, except I'm anti-genocide unlike OP.

Any celebrity who hasn't spoken out against genocide but still wants to preach about more convenient forms of social justice can fuck right off along with OP. No one believes you care about anything or anyone but yourself if you can't be bothered to acknowledge toddlers getting cremated alive in hospital beds.

by Anonymousreply 3June 10, 2025 4:24 AM

It's not a genocide, it's a war started and perpetuated by Hamas via their refusal to release the remaining hostages. The very same Hamas which violently stifled nascent democratic parties in Gaza, which is yet another thing never brought up by Western lefties.

I find it curious that you probably wouldn't describe the fall of Berlin as genocide, even though both the Allies and the Soviets raped and murdered women and children alike whenever they found them, and the whole affair was much bloodier than anything Israel's done so far in defending itself.

Having said that, savage acts deserve a savage punishment. Consider it a valuable teaching moment. Most Arabs managed to assimilate said lesson after the Six-Day War already, but Palestinians seem a bit slow in that regard. Luckily, Israel has all the toys in the world to motivate their learning process, lol.

by Anonymousreply 4June 10, 2025 4:36 AM

Anyone who uses the term "virtue signaling" is douchebag signaling

by Anonymousreply 5June 10, 2025 4:40 AM

[quote] Palestinians seem a bit slow in that regard. Luckily, Israel has all the toys in the world to motivate their learning process, lol.

Clearly, those Palestinian babies need to be slaughtered r4, that’ll teach ‘em!

by Anonymousreply 6June 10, 2025 4:45 AM

Her original video is in the video below for those interested in seeing what she said and the tone she said it in.

It was a bitch to find.

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by Anonymousreply 7June 10, 2025 5:02 AM

R4 Berlin wasn’t the entirety of Germany so no, Bonnie would call it that.

Too bad the incinerated toddler didn’t give the command to release the hostages before they got him I guess huh?

by Anonymousreply 8June 10, 2025 5:15 AM

I always thought she was a smug cow. Hopefully this will rein in her ego.

by Anonymousreply 9June 10, 2025 6:46 AM

Spiked Online and that rubbish YouTube channel r7 links to are completely irrelevant. In the real world, this won't do her any harm at all, except amongst those who believe that Israel is above all criticism and the dead babies and mutilated civilians are justifiable collateral damage.

Funny how Spiked Online and that YouTube channel don't practice what they preach and condemn Israel's violence too.

by Anonymousreply 10June 10, 2025 6:53 AM

[quote]Having said that, savage acts deserve a savage punishment. Consider it a valuable teaching moment.

Yes, and most fundamentally, when your forces are enacting savage punishment on those barbarous Arabs, who like all savages only understand the language of violence--remember to hold fast to that most felicitous principle of the Israeli Defense Forces: that being their exchange rate of death--50 Palestinians for every Israeli.

by Anonymousreply 11June 10, 2025 6:56 AM

They were eating babies!

by Anonymousreply 12June 10, 2025 7:00 AM

Dawn French doesn't exactly say "fing". Sheesh, aren't your panties in bunch every fucking day. Be careful or you'll end up like Isabella Clara Eugenia, Sovereign of the Spanish Low Lands, Infanta of Spain and Archduchess of Austria, whose foul panties were absorbed into her cooter.

by Anonymousreply 13June 10, 2025 7:03 AM

[quote]it's a war started and perpetuated by Hamas via their refusal to release the remaining hostages.

There was no Hamas or hostages in 1948 when this started.

by Anonymousreply 14June 10, 2025 7:38 AM

R14 - how far do you want to go back to justify October 7th?

Is it ok to Native Americans to start slaughtering occupying Americans with European DNA?

The most telling line from French's apology was "I have felt my silence is complicit or even somehow sanctioning". How delusional is this woman to think she has any influence over this?

She only apologised because she faced financial consequences. She genuinely does believe the mass rape and butchering of young people at a rave was justified. She genuinely does believe that the military response was a land grab.

by Anonymousreply 15June 10, 2025 7:46 AM

I hoped the people who W&W'd my post understood it was intended to be mordant irony. But then again, there are many on the right, both here in the States and in Israel, who would earnestly subscribe to such a grim moral calculus.

by Anonymousreply 16June 10, 2025 7:56 AM

I can cut British people a micron of slack on this subject, since BBC and other news outlets in the UK are a nonstop barrage of anti-Israel, pro-Palestinian propaganda.

by Anonymousreply 17June 10, 2025 8:14 AM

Oh R16, you're so cutting, so clever, so incisive!

Do photos like this make your dick twitch?

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by Anonymousreply 18June 10, 2025 8:23 AM

[quote][I disagree with her stance, but I love her regardless and find this sentence really misogynistic for no reason. She's done a hell of a lot more in her life than Lenny fucking Henry. You can disagree with what she's saying without diminishing her entire career in this gross way.

You claim misogyny and then come out with some absolutely racist shit.

"Lenny fucking Henry", Sir Lenny to you, is an absolute trailblazer. Stand up comedy, tv comedy, co-founded Comic Relief, extensive theatre credits.

by Anonymousreply 19June 10, 2025 8:40 AM

Way to miss the point entirely, r19

by Anonymousreply 20June 10, 2025 9:00 AM

I am more pro-Israel than not, but anyone who thinks the war would end if Hamas surrendered the hostages is naive.

by Anonymousreply 21June 10, 2025 10:54 AM

The tone of the article criticizing her makes me want to be on her side. Guy sounds like an ass.

by Anonymousreply 22June 10, 2025 11:16 AM

It is perfectly possible to be fully supportive if Israel's right to exist, while thinking the policies of it's current government are a bit much.

by Anonymousreply 23June 10, 2025 11:20 AM

French's comments were nothing to do with Israel's right to exist.

She's horrified about what is happening in Palestine but affords no responsibility to Hamas or the Palestinians who took part in October 7th and are continuing the war.

She whined in a baby voice that October 7th was "a bad thing" and then claimed the response was all about taking land.

by Anonymousreply 24June 10, 2025 11:25 AM

"I disagree with her stance, but I love her regardless and find this sentence really misogynistic for no reason. She's done a hell of a lot more in her life than Lenny fucking Henry. You can disagree with what she's saying without diminishing her entire career in this gross way."

If she says something this stupid, she deserves to be diminished. Humiliated even. And if there's a gross way to do it, even better.

by Anonymousreply 25June 10, 2025 11:27 AM

Is there any Ivy League campus you can go occupy, you shrill and binary ethicist?

by Anonymousreply 26June 10, 2025 11:57 AM

What R23 said. Israel has a right to exist but so do individual Palestinians. Anyone acting like this was started on October 7th by Palestinians is gaslighting. Decades of displacement and occupation and encroaching settlements and discrimination and state violence started this. Hamas was elected in 2007 and immediately stopped elections. The majority of Palestinians were under 18 on October 7 and never even had a chance to vote for different leadership, which is why claims that Palestinians = Hamas are so dishonest. I love Jews but the Israeli government is out of control.

I've never seen a time in the US when criticizing a foreign government was seen as disloyalty to the US. There's definitely something different about the times we live in, never forget what life was like before this. They want us to forget and see this new, awful reality as the objective truth, but they're playing us.

by Anonymousreply 27June 10, 2025 12:33 PM

Shut the hell up, OP. You're BORING.

by Anonymousreply 28June 10, 2025 12:38 PM

Shut UP dawn French!

by Anonymousreply 29June 10, 2025 3:32 PM

OP reads like one of Bibi’s bots.

by Anonymousreply 30June 10, 2025 8:58 PM
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