I haven’t seen his play but I’ve seen him on CBS Sunday Mornings and on a couple of other things. There’s something just a little grating about him. I saw a still shot of him winning a Tony last night and, well… I’m assuming he’s the new Billy Porter.
Is this Cole Escola the new darling of the entertainment zeitgeist?
by Anonymous | reply 187 | June 12, 2025 9:25 AM |
Was he doing a tribute for Sandra Bernhard's 70th?
by Anonymous | reply 1 | June 9, 2025 12:02 PM |
Maybe in years he’ll look back at that photo OP and think WTAF? Hope so.
by Anonymous | reply 2 | June 9, 2025 12:03 PM |
Why hasn't Geri Blank won an E, G, O or T?
by Anonymous | reply 3 | June 9, 2025 12:06 PM |
You should really see Oh, Mary! before shitting on a successful gay breaking into the mainstream. I know it’s hard not to feel jealous, but the play is very funny.
by Anonymous | reply 4 | June 9, 2025 12:08 PM |
Oh Mary is hilarious. He’s a very talented guy. Or should I say they.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | June 9, 2025 12:19 PM |
[quote] I’ve seen him on CBS Sunday Mornings
Tell me you're an elder elder gay, without telling me you're an old.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | June 9, 2025 12:24 PM |
Men like my snaggle tooth as much as they like my snaggle puss.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | June 9, 2025 12:25 PM |
I wouldn’t call him a gay or an actor. He’ll transition within two years. You know it.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | June 9, 2025 12:39 PM |
They don’t transition. The mask comes off in the bedroom.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | June 9, 2025 12:42 PM |
Holy shit r4; triggered much? Maybe Datalounge isn’t for you hon.
by Anonymous | reply 11 | June 9, 2025 12:43 PM |
I like that he seems to have not done much and landed this hugely popular play, and I hope it’s made him incredibly rich. Those are the types of gay men who make me proud to be gay. But I have no doubt he’ll look back on last night, see how ridiculous he made himself up to be (glamorous gown, weird curly messy wig AND a hairy chest), and he’ll shake his head in mature embarrassment and think “WHAT was I thinking?” It may turn out to have been the greatest night of his life, and yet he decided to costume for it instead of showing how gender bending he COULD be by wearing a tailored Armani suit or tuxedo. We all know he’s a drag queen. Imagine how cute he could have been with a fresh haircut and nice suit. THAT would have scored him the shock and attention he craves so badly. Instead, he showed up as everyone would expect him to, and got thousands of eye rolls behind his back.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | June 9, 2025 12:51 PM |
Cole's been a very successful comedic performance artist in the downtown NYC scene for years. They live a happy life with tons of friends and respect among those who know them. They're not going to get a "fresh haircut and nice suit" to impress a bunch of elderly, trans-obsessed, gay mary's who are still "butch it up" for validation in public. And no, they're not going to look back years from now and be embarrassed about their creativity, lol. What did your mothers do to you?
And I type this as a vanilla eldergay myself with a closet full of nice suits who still finds it weird to type "they" as a pronoun, but I do it because the world is an interesting place and I'd rather experience it than pointlessly bitch into the winds of time.
by Anonymous | reply 13 | June 9, 2025 1:07 PM |
He did really well with his 5 Jeopardy questions recently (as Mary, promoting the play).
by Anonymous | reply 14 | June 9, 2025 1:11 PM |
From Wikipedia:
"In 2022, Escola came out as non-binary.[18]"
And yet, he won in a very binary category.
Shouldn't Cole have competed in the best "they/them" category.
Oh right, there is no such category.
by Anonymous | reply 15 | June 9, 2025 1:13 PM |
But this is why it matters. Before the gender craze, we most of us would be applauding this cute gay boy who came from absolutely fucking nothing to win a Tony. We would be nothing but happy that young gay boys around the country are seeing his triumph. But instead, young people are seeing this completely nonsensical idea that there is a flux state between male and female. It’s simply not a thing. So instead of having a win for gay visibility, that would make easy sense to the average viewer, we have this anti-science that is a turnoff to turn off to way more people than we might realize.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | June 9, 2025 1:16 PM |
R13 is one of the few people posting in this thread, or anywhere here for that matter, who actually seems fun and interesting to know in real life
by Anonymous | reply 17 | June 9, 2025 1:17 PM |
Sometimes some of you can be so freaking exhausting. It was his night; he didn't want to wear a tailored suit. He wore what he wore. He is who he is. If at some point he has regrets for any choices he's made, then they will be his regrets and his alone. His choice of evening wear and presentation has nothing to do with how people see you (which is really what this is all about).
And yes, I know this is Datalounge, but there is difference between pointless bitchery and being an aged twat.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | June 9, 2025 1:19 PM |
Perhaps you do, r13.
by Anonymous | reply 19 | June 9, 2025 1:19 PM |
Cole's orthodontics free smile is very brave, at their age, in their profession.
by Anonymous | reply 20 | June 9, 2025 1:20 PM |
Shoot. I meant r17.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | June 9, 2025 1:20 PM |
But R28, that’s exactly it. It’s not that he wore a dress. It’s the idea that by wearing a dress, he’s not a man. We used to argue the total opposite in the gay rights. This new idea, that it’s your styling that makes you more or less of a man or a woman, is the retrograde/sexist notion!
by Anonymous | reply 22 | June 9, 2025 1:21 PM |
OP's pic, worth a million words: This is why Trump won a second term.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | June 9, 2025 1:25 PM |
[quote]It’s the idea that by wearing a dress, he’s not a man. We used to argue the total opposite in the gay rights.
Perhaps, when you weren't paying attention, the argument shifted. That happens sometimes.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | June 9, 2025 1:49 PM |
He’s not a well woman.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | June 9, 2025 1:53 PM |
Yes, r23, you're right. Trump won a second term because people were mad about men in dresses and brown people, with whom most of his voters never crossed paths.
That's what happens when life is going too well for most people. They have to really work to create new boogie men to satisfy their mean hearts. A full belly and good job makes people really have to work hard to find new enemies.
Times are about to get legitimately tough again soon enough, and the boogie men will no longer have to be so frivolous.
But if you work really hard and keep focusing all your hate on the little things, maybe you can help him win a third term!
by Anonymous | reply 26 | June 9, 2025 1:55 PM |
Trump won a second term because Elon rigged it for him.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | June 9, 2025 1:58 PM |
I like when he dresses ‘feminine’ but keeps his hair short, sending mixed gender signals.
This time he showed his hairy bared chest, yes, but the tribute wig to Bernadette was too much and threw off the whole look. And the gown itself was staid, and he looked like he was trying too hard instead of having fun. Epic fail for me.
Imagine how cute he would have looked in Cynthia Erivo’s “Annie” tribute gown with his usual short hair.
by Anonymous | reply 28 | June 9, 2025 1:59 PM |
[quote]But I have no doubt he’ll look back on last night, see how ridiculous he made himself up to be (glamorous gown, weird curly messy wig AND a hairy chest), and he’ll shake his head in mature embarrassment and think “WHAT was I thinking?” It may turn out to have been the greatest night of his life, and yet he decided to costume for it instead of showing how gender bending he COULD be by wearing a tailored Armani suit or tuxedo. We all know he’s a drag queen. Imagine how cute he could have been with a fresh haircut and nice suit. THAT would have scored him the shock and attention he craves so badly. Instead, he showed up as everyone would expect him to, and got thousands of eye rolls behind his back.
Among the elderly, perhaps.
You're living in a different world than the one you grew up in, gramps.
by Anonymous | reply 29 | June 9, 2025 2:01 PM |
I'm with you, r13...and I didn't care for OH, MARY! very much at all except for the last twenty minutes which I thought was quite good and suspenseful...though I could have done without the messy, self-indulgent 'cabaret' act that followed. It did not deserve to win best play. But Cole's definitely paid them dues, and worked for years on the periphery of Broadway - he did a lot of readings - and I'm happy for them's personal success and look forward to what comes next and hope it will be better.
And the outfit was fun and cheeky and a perfect homage to Bernadette, down to the stray curl over the forehead. A perfect, glamorous genderfuck, complete with the hairy chest. Such a difference with the dutiful and joyless drag statements of Billy Porter.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | June 9, 2025 2:03 PM |
Except Billy Porter is a major egotist and a pain in the ass in general. Give Cole a few more years to catch up before comparing him to that old queen.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | June 9, 2025 2:08 PM |
Billy Porter is not fun.
by Anonymous | reply 32 | June 9, 2025 2:14 PM |
r13 = Whomever this thread is about.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | June 9, 2025 2:15 PM |
R24, “the argument shifted” is not the compelling counterpoint you think it is. Not when it comes to something like biology.
But you’re right: groups like GLAAD fully shifted the messaging. That is why the earliest critics of gender stuff were the radical lesbians. For fifty years, the movement operated under the one idea that makeup and hair and clothes are not what make you a man or a woman. We used to rate against that, the idea that is now the basis of the trans and nonbinary movement.
Yes, “the argument shifted.” The science and the true progressive view did not.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | June 9, 2025 2:19 PM |
r31: My apologies - I meant to say "contrast" instead of difference.
I'm another grey eldergay who isn't bent out of shape by Cole and the dress. Them wears it well.
by Anonymous | reply 35 | June 9, 2025 2:21 PM |
The big difference between Cole Escola and a stunt queen like Billy Porter is that Escola has a sense of humor about how he’s presenting himself. I mean, come on — going to the Tonys dressed like Bernadette Peters is fucking funny.
That said, the “they/them” nonsense is still stupid and fake and especially disappointing on someone like him because it actually signals conformity to a woke trend. But I still think he’s hilarious and a very smart satirist.
by Anonymous | reply 36 | June 9, 2025 2:22 PM |
They’s the next Max Mutchnick
by Anonymous | reply 37 | June 9, 2025 2:24 PM |
Why does he constantly dress in drag?
It seems like such a schtick and of course contributes to the deeply-held belief that all GAY MEN are drag queens and "trans", which bugs the crap out of me. If "representation" matters so much, why don't we see more non-dysphoric, non-transvestite gays?
by Anonymous | reply 38 | June 9, 2025 2:26 PM |
One day you’ll be “the elderly” r29 and maybe then you’ll have the grace to remember your ignorant, smug younger self.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | June 9, 2025 2:30 PM |
[quote]...and I'm happy for them's personal success...
Did you even read that before posting?
I'm convinced the clearest explanation of gender is - Male- Female-Extra Extra Special.
by Anonymous | reply 40 | June 9, 2025 2:31 PM |
We’ll probably never hear from s/he again. I’m glad s/he beat George Clooney and I enjoy clips of him/her in drag as Amy Sedaris neighbor on one of her streaming shows. But I don’t think s/he will ever match this success.
by Anonymous | reply 41 | June 9, 2025 2:38 PM |
His future will definitely be limited to Broadway - the non-binary thing, really really gay, and he doesn’t exactly have the face for film/tv.
by Anonymous | reply 42 | June 9, 2025 2:43 PM |
My guess is they'll have a career arc much like Charles Busch's or Everett Quinton's--they'll be a cult favorite in the off-off-Broadway theater world of NY, and will get to do one-off movies or TV shows every once in a while.
by Anonymous | reply 43 | June 9, 2025 2:59 PM |
Being an effeminate gay man doesn’t make you nonbinary and we should resist people trying to use the labeling.
by Anonymous | reply 44 | June 9, 2025 3:32 PM |
I just hope this hurts Jeffery Self on some level. I loathe Jeffery Self.
by Anonymous | reply 45 | June 9, 2025 3:35 PM |
R40 obviously you are unable to read and recognise snark. Glass houses.
by Anonymous | reply 46 | June 9, 2025 3:36 PM |
[quote] Being an effeminate gay man doesn’t make you nonbinary and we should resist people trying to use the labeling.
Resist it? How?
By punishing them if they use it and we don't think they have a right to use it?
Who gets to decide?
by Anonymous | reply 47 | June 9, 2025 3:37 PM |
R43, I agree and don't forget, that every once-in-a-while, The Times, NY Mag, The New Yorker, will run a profile on Escola... there's a new project they're working on and it requires a big puff piece. Cole will be as pretentious, precious, edgy as ever, the interviewer will think that there's something "oimportant" being shared.
There's actually a whole lot of nothing being shared... Billy Porter is example #1 of this. No one outside of the his theatre/entertainment industry bubble even feigns interest in what he/she/they have to say.
by Anonymous | reply 48 | June 9, 2025 3:37 PM |
It's seasonal.
Cole, all of them, are the new Cynthia Erivo.
Destined to be remembered fondly.
by Anonymous | reply 49 | June 9, 2025 3:37 PM |
[quote] Being an effeminate gay man doesn’t make you nonbinary and we should resist people trying to use the labeling.
[quote]Resist it? How? By punishing them if they use it and we don't think they have a right to use it?
You’re on the right track.
by Anonymous | reply 50 | June 9, 2025 3:42 PM |
Cole is fun and funny - Billy Porter sucks up all the energy in a room and demands all eyes on him. Very different vibes.
Cole is being Cole - ironic and offbeat and downtown. Billy is putting on a show - and is really only an actor, he hasn't written his own stuff and has pretty much played the same characters.
But yeah - I hope he can afford to fix his teeth.
by Anonymous | reply 52 | June 9, 2025 3:45 PM |
He has been on television before - playing a female character on Amy Sedaris’ show and as a waiter on Difficult People. It’s not like he appeared out of nowhere.
by Anonymous | reply 53 | June 9, 2025 3:47 PM |
Hey, r39, *I'm* elderly and frankly, you're the reason why they hate us. I think it's safe to assume you've always been close-minded.
by Anonymous | reply 54 | June 9, 2025 3:48 PM |
Cole Escola is literally from a trailer trash background: his father chased him, his brother, and his mother out of their mobile home with a gun when he was a child. There's a reason he didn't have good orthodontics.
He could get them fixed now that he's finally made it and can afford it. It will likely mean taking some time off from doing stage work, though--orthodontics can mess up how you talk.
by Anonymous | reply 55 | June 9, 2025 3:53 PM |
Cole’s teeth are Lena’s fat rolls.
They can both afford to fix the problem, but they choose not to for reasons known only to them.
by Anonymous | reply 56 | June 9, 2025 3:58 PM |
Teeth are important. Crooked teeth is one of quite a few reasons why I would never be cast for TV.
by Anonymous | reply 57 | June 9, 2025 4:01 PM |
He's only recently had money enough to do it, r56, and that's only been while he's been very busy mostly performing this show.
by Anonymous | reply 58 | June 9, 2025 4:02 PM |
"they/them” nonsense... actually signals conformity to a woke trend"
It's the opposite of empowering. It's letting breeders define you as not really a man. And now they get to call us Queers. Gee, thanks.
by Anonymous | reply 59 | June 9, 2025 4:12 PM |
Who hated this dude winning more, Trump supporters or Dylan Mulvaney?
by Anonymous | reply 61 | June 9, 2025 4:36 PM |
[Quote] He has been on television before - playing a female character on Amy Sedaris’ show and as a waiter on Difficult People. It’s not like he appeared out of nowhere.
He was also primary antagonist on a season of Search Party. He’s very funny.
by Anonymous | reply 62 | June 9, 2025 4:36 PM |
[quote]They have to really work to create new boogie men
Oh, dear.
by Anonymous | reply 63 | June 9, 2025 4:47 PM |
r36: I do understand. I don't have any issues with men who do drag whether they be gay or straight. I think gender non-conformity is great. If more little kids were not scolded or punished for liking the "wrong" things there would be fewer kids who would think they were born in the "wrong body" and identify as trans. Leave the feminine boys and tomboy girls alone. If they decide they are trans , let them do the steroids and surgery after they reach legal age.
I think of that horrible born-again Christian woman (Forgot her name; she was profiled in I think "Good Housekeeping" some years ago) who beat her little son because he didn't like "boy toys" and liked to play with dolls and wear dresses. She was horrified that her son was gay but jumped on the idea that he was trans. The kid - now daughter - and the homophobic mother are considered heroes in the trans community.
by Anonymous | reply 65 | June 9, 2025 5:51 PM |
R65 - when Cole appears in drag, I feel like we're in on the joke and it's not fully serious.
When other men wear women's clothes, it feels like a statement and 'look at me' and how DARING and forward-thinking I am! They're fucking serious, which you really shouldn't be.
Cole wearing that dress is like when Trey Parker wore the JLo dress to the Oscars. The other performative, attention-seeking 'non-binaries' in women's clothing are just an annoyance. It's not groundbreaking anymore - hasn't been in years.
by Anonymous | reply 66 | June 9, 2025 6:04 PM |
It's just that men-in-dresses got old so fast. Like instantly.
by Anonymous | reply 67 | June 9, 2025 6:05 PM |
He’s the new Dylan Mulvany.
by Anonymous | reply 68 | June 9, 2025 6:09 PM |
R66, he only does they/them pronouns now. It’s not a joke. He came out as non-binary.
by Anonymous | reply 69 | June 9, 2025 6:10 PM |
[quote] Who hated this dude winning more, Trump supporters
Honey, Americans don’t watch the Tony Awards.
by Anonymous | reply 70 | June 9, 2025 6:11 PM |
“Trump won a second term because people were mad about men in dresses and brown people”
Or because Democrats lost the plot and hemorrhaged Latino voters and Black men
by Anonymous | reply 71 | June 9, 2025 6:19 PM |
oh look, another Trump thread
by Anonymous | reply 72 | June 9, 2025 6:25 PM |
Did Milton Berle receive the same critical attention Cole Escola does?
by Anonymous | reply 73 | June 9, 2025 6:29 PM |
He is very sharp and quick witted. Asked on the red carpet if what he thought of the patty Lupone article he said.. WHAT? i don't have time to read. The interviewer said "YOU DON'T READ?" and he looked dead pan in the camera and said "I will leave that up to the states.."
by Anonymous | reply 74 | June 9, 2025 6:29 PM |
They/them is plural. Get another word to describe one person.
Not playing that stupid they/them game.
by Anonymous | reply 75 | June 9, 2025 7:17 PM |
I do wonder if some people find men in dresses attractive. I love menof all different shapes and sizes and types. I have had sex with so many different type of men. But I have never once been attracted to a man in a dress. For me it’s an instant turn off, but I’m genuinely curious if other gay men find it sexy.
by Anonymous | reply 76 | June 9, 2025 7:24 PM |
Billy Porter looked amazing when he went to the Oscars - the mix of the tuxedo and skirt worked well for him. He has the confidence to pull it off.
Sam Smith generally looks hideous in whatever he wears, just a big hairy lump of flesh.
The guy from the couple who wrote Six always looks hideous. Apparently he "identifies" as non binary rather than full blown trans but he just looks like a very ugly man in a dress.
by Anonymous | reply 77 | June 9, 2025 7:43 PM |
A man parading around in a dress.
I did that schtick 45 fucking years ago.
by Anonymous | reply 78 | June 9, 2025 7:49 PM |
"Or because Democrats lost the plot"
Yes, it's that they don't care about The Common Man. Workin' folks. And our proud Veterans. And crime-ridden cities. And open borders. Right?
by Anonymous | reply 79 | June 9, 2025 7:58 PM |
[quote] I do wonder if some people find men in dresses attractive. I love men of all different shapes and sizes and types. I have had sex with so many different type of men. But I have never once been attracted to a man in a dress. For me it’s an instant turn off, but I’m genuinely curious if other gay men find it sexy.
Is that even relevant here?
I can imagine many other reasons why this performer wanted to wear a dress last night other than to make themselves sexually attractive.
by Anonymous | reply 80 | June 9, 2025 8:05 PM |
Their chest hair is rather decorative, it has whorls.
by Anonymous | reply 81 | June 9, 2025 8:06 PM |
If you are a fully actualized, grown adult gay person, you should have no issue with anyone choosing to express themselves however they see fit. Instead, some of you are those same scared little kids, terrified of getting beaten up and called gay slurs after school, because you did something that was different or a little too gay.
by Anonymous | reply 82 | June 9, 2025 8:11 PM |
They're irritating.
Self-fantasizing ego trips tend to be irritating.
LOOKIE ME!
by Anonymous | reply 83 | June 9, 2025 8:11 PM |
"A LITTLE grating"?!?!?
Gurl...
She's a LOT!
by Anonymous | reply 84 | June 9, 2025 8:14 PM |
I think we’re reading too much into this. Let him have his phase. It’s a free country.
As posted above it’s kinda funny that he showed up to his big night dressed as Bernadette Peters.
by Anonymous | reply 85 | June 9, 2025 8:16 PM |
I see "The Billy Porter/Cole Escola Summertime Funtime Comedy Revue" coming to CBS as a summer replacement show.
by Anonymous | reply 86 | June 9, 2025 8:29 PM |
R80: Honey they are many things but sexually attractive is not one of them.
by Anonymous | reply 87 | June 9, 2025 8:32 PM |
I’m not hearing many people on this thread saying that people shouldn’t express themselves as they wish, R82. I’m hearing people say that this expression does not “make” a man nonbinary or trans or whatever.
by Anonymous | reply 88 | June 9, 2025 8:34 PM |
[quote] If you are a fully actualized, grown adult gay person, you should have no issue with anyone choosing to express themselves however they see fit.
I’d wager that most adults do not buy into the “anything goes” belief regarding how one presents oneself in public.
by Anonymous | reply 89 | June 9, 2025 8:34 PM |
Cole is such a wonderfully silly weirdo. The fact that they've become the toast of Broadway and a genuine star this past year is so sweet to see. Especially because they didn't compromise their queerness, weirdness or darkness to get this. They just kept making work that made them laugh, knowing that if there was an audience for them, they'd respond. I was a freshman in college when they and (what was their friend/comedy partner's name?) Jeffrey...something...? were making their early comedy videos like Sweating to Sondheim. This was back in the very early days of YouTube. To see Cole progress slowly, but surely to more sophisticated online videos, to downtown cabarets and Off-Off-Off-OFF Broadway shows, to eventually joining the writing staff and casts of left-of-center TV shows and now this? This absolute noodle in a hoop dress has paid their dues.
Oh, Mary! felt more like an overly long sketch than a great comedy play to me, but I'm still absolutely tickled for Cole's well deserved success.
by Anonymous | reply 90 | June 9, 2025 8:56 PM |
Based on the Jeopardy questions segments, Cole came off as very intelligent.
by Anonymous | reply 91 | June 9, 2025 9:00 PM |
"I see "The Billy Porter/Cole Escola Summertime Funtime Comedy Revue" coming to CBS as a summer replacement show"
I WOULD SO WATCH THIS.
by Anonymous | reply 92 | June 9, 2025 9:07 PM |
R92 Well, yeah.
It would be the biggest trainwreck ever.
by Anonymous | reply 93 | June 9, 2025 9:12 PM |
R9 and if he does he will still be a gay man dick, dress , sexy undies, and tasteful shoes or not. I will admit when I first saw their picture on this thread I thought it was a trans or woman,
by Anonymous | reply 94 | June 9, 2025 9:12 PM |
[quote] [R9] and if he does he will still be a gay man dick, dress , sexy undies, and tasteful shoes or not. I will admit when I first saw their picture on this thread I thought it was a trans or woman,
Horrors!
by Anonymous | reply 95 | June 9, 2025 9:15 PM |
[quote] I’m hearing people say that this expression does not “make” a man nonbinary or trans or whatever.
What does, then? Does this need to be determined by a panel of experts?
Or are you saying you personally get to make the call for everyone?
by Anonymous | reply 96 | June 9, 2025 9:16 PM |
I’m glad they didn’t go overboard on Oh, Mary. The show itself is fine but not Best Play material.
by Anonymous | reply 97 | June 9, 2025 9:17 PM |
Billy Porter lacks self awareness. Cole does not.
by Anonymous | reply 98 | June 9, 2025 9:19 PM |
Cole was hilarious as Billy Eichner’s demon aging twink nemesis on Difficult People, and as Dory’s obsessed fan in Search Party.
by Anonymous | reply 99 | June 9, 2025 9:19 PM |
R3, "They" will never be a pronoun. Told a Trans friend to "cut pronoun crap, I'll call you by your name." He said "OK"
by Anonymous | reply 100 | June 9, 2025 9:23 PM |
R93: "The Billy Porter/Cole Escola Summertime Funtime Comedy Revue would be the biggest trainwreck ever."
FUCK YOU! Fucking asshole. DICK!
by Anonymous | reply 101 | June 9, 2025 9:25 PM |
101 posts, and not one has mentioned that the pic at R5 was captioned "Lorna LOFT"? Has the world forgotten my poor, molested sister?
by Anonymous | reply 102 | June 9, 2025 9:28 PM |
For R100. If ancient Miriam can adapt, you can, too, gramps.
by Anonymous | reply 103 | June 9, 2025 9:28 PM |
Billy Porter is an embarrassment to the Gay Community.
by Anonymous | reply 104 | June 9, 2025 9:28 PM |
[quote] [R3], "They" will never be a pronoun.
Too late.
It's already used as one around the country, and has been now for years.
by Anonymous | reply 105 | June 9, 2025 9:30 PM |
Cole Escola and Billy Porter are completely different artists. They could never do a show together. I don’t think BP wears a dress to be funny.
by Anonymous | reply 106 | June 9, 2025 9:30 PM |
Billy Porter has never looked amazing. Don’t even try it with that shit.
by Anonymous | reply 107 | June 9, 2025 9:30 PM |
"If ancient Miriam can adapt ...."
I did try to adapt. I was stricken with leprosy. This Cole, would he like some leprosy too?
by Anonymous | reply 108 | June 9, 2025 9:32 PM |
"The Billy Porter/Cole Escola Summertime Funtime Comedy Revue" - oh honey, this will end in tears, tears I tell you!
And those tears will flow right before the commercial break and right after Mx Escola/Porter duet and try to out sing each other during "Enough is Enough."
by Anonymous | reply 109 | June 9, 2025 9:34 PM |
R64 where’s the part when we laugh?
by Anonymous | reply 110 | June 9, 2025 9:40 PM |
R82 is preaching 70s transactional analysis. Oy vey
by Anonymous | reply 111 | June 9, 2025 9:41 PM |
R96, biology did a pretty good job deciding it for millennia.
by Anonymous | reply 112 | June 9, 2025 9:42 PM |
I have no problem if a drag queen wears a dress. Obviously, the dress and makeup is the drag.
But a man wearing a dress like Cole Escola, Billy Porter, etc., looks cringy, obnoxious and hideous. Knock it off.
by Anonymous | reply 113 | June 9, 2025 9:48 PM |
You bitches are slipping.
NO ONE pointed out the glaring error in the article linked at R5 ?
by Anonymous | reply 114 | June 9, 2025 10:00 PM |
TOGA TOGA TOGA!!!!
by Anonymous | reply 115 | June 9, 2025 10:04 PM |
r114, meet r102!
by Anonymous | reply 117 | June 9, 2025 10:18 PM |
I think Cole Escola or they’s them is crawling all over this thread.
by Anonymous | reply 118 | June 9, 2025 10:19 PM |
She’s lurking here, absolutely…
by Anonymous | reply 119 | June 9, 2025 10:21 PM |
I’m glad he won cause maybe there’s a little money for some snaggle correction.
by Anonymous | reply 120 | June 9, 2025 10:21 PM |
[quote] [R96], biology did a pretty good job deciding it for millennia.
That still doesn't really answer my question--biology is not a person who can decide things. It may be a deciding factor, but really which person makes the decision and based on which biological criteria?
Even if we base it on whether or not on biology, do we then decide whether they have a penis or not? Or, do we check for XX vs. XY chromosomes, like with the Olympics?
Does this have to be done before every awards show to satisfy you? Or do we have to go further, and do it before people go out on the street?
by Anonymous | reply 121 | June 9, 2025 10:22 PM |
No, R118/R119, it's just all the Broadway show queens and "hip" New York sophisticates who think a guy running around in public in a dress is edgy, trendy and subversive.
by Anonymous | reply 122 | June 9, 2025 10:22 PM |
They/them is so stupid. Democrats will never win as long as they pander to that mindset. He was nominated for best actor, not best “them.”
by Anonymous | reply 123 | June 9, 2025 10:23 PM |
[quote]R12 …yet he decided to costume for it instead of showing how gender bending he COULD be by wearing a tailored Armani suit or tuxedo.
You sound like my mom.
Why are you fixated on men wearing trousers? Why do you care?
by Anonymous | reply 124 | June 9, 2025 10:27 PM |
[quote] No, [R118]/[R119], it's just all the Broadway show queens and "hip" New York sophisticates who think a guy running around in public in a dress is edgy, trendy and subversive.
Actually, many of us are just not raising our eyebrows at all, and are really wondering what the big fuss is about.
It's 2025.
by Anonymous | reply 125 | June 9, 2025 10:27 PM |
It’s performative. And dull, to boot.
by Anonymous | reply 126 | June 9, 2025 10:29 PM |
Cole Escola thinks just because they made a little money they can get a new hairdo and some expensive clothes and turn they self into a lady. But they can't, because they'll never be anything but a common non-binary frump whose father lived over a grocery store and whose mother took in washing!
by Anonymous | reply 127 | June 10, 2025 1:08 AM |
At least he's doing original works, and not the umpteenth revival of a 65-yr. old play about Vaudeville and striptease.
by Anonymous | reply 128 | June 10, 2025 1:41 AM |
Most of you who don't know Cole's work think that he's wearing this dress because he's non-binary and out there.
No - he's wearing it because he played Mary Todd Lincoln and he wanted to dress up like Bernadette Peters to be funny. There's no agenda here at all. It really is just to be absurd and funny.
You're reading far too much into this. He's not at all like Billy Porter or 'gender fucks' whatever that's supposed to mean.
He doesn't dress like this in real life at all. He dresses as a man. Well - more of a boy with that body - but male nonetheless.
by Anonymous | reply 129 | June 10, 2025 1:44 AM |
He's really funny. I want to see what he does next, I really do.
by Anonymous | reply 130 | June 10, 2025 2:07 AM |
[quote] "They" will never be a pronoun
Umm ... hasn't it ALWAYS been a pronoun?
by Anonymous | reply 131 | June 10, 2025 2:12 AM |
[quote]He doesn't dress like this in real life at all. He dresses as a man.
Nope. I've seen him in dresses and generally women's ensembles all the time.
by Anonymous | reply 132 | June 10, 2025 2:17 AM |
R75 “You” is also plural, which is why we say “you are,”rather than “you is.” Thee and thou were left behind. Language changes.
by Anonymous | reply 133 | June 10, 2025 6:49 AM |
“They” and “them” are pronouns! They are originally the pronouns for groups. Good grief, did you pay no attention in elementary school? If English isn’t your first language, I apologize, but come on!
by Anonymous | reply 134 | June 10, 2025 6:56 AM |
Being gay and posting on Datalounge hardly guarantee minimum functional IQ or literacy. Are you new here?
by Anonymous | reply 135 | June 10, 2025 7:07 AM |
TBH, the dress wasn't especially funny. Or, daring. Or, clever.
I mean, the South Park guys did it over 25 years ago....when it was pretty funny, daring, and clever. Especially since it annoyed Gwynie.
Billy Porter is over the top but...he has better outfits.
by Anonymous | reply 136 | June 10, 2025 7:16 AM |
[quote]Those are the types of gay men who make me proud to be gay.
A gay man who denies being a man and, by extension, denies being a gay man is who makes you proud to be gay, r12?
by Anonymous | reply 137 | June 10, 2025 8:21 AM |
R133, so if language changes along the lines of your example of "you are", then does that mean we are all now they/thems and he/she/it should be dropped altogether?
by Anonymous | reply 138 | June 10, 2025 8:23 AM |
Misogynistic. Lacked artistry and imagination. Low self-esteem. Hollow and empty.
by Anonymous | reply 139 | June 10, 2025 8:27 AM |
How important are the Tonys and this particular dress wearing gay men trying to look trans?
There are 337 million Americans. Less than 5 million, still the largest audience in recent history, watched. I have no data how many that watched were themselves singers, dancers, actors or gay men,. We can assume a lot.
It’s clear to me that today DL is , but America is not talking about Tony winner men who try to look like women. A niche issue America hardly knows happened.
by Anonymous | reply 140 | June 10, 2025 8:37 AM |
He can take his pronouns and shove them up his ass. As for all the enablers on here buying into his non-binary shit just remember if they ever dig up his corpse in 100 years it’ll be so easy as it is now to say, oh it’s male. As for being kind - fuck off. This is manipulative control by the terminally dull and desperate.
by Anonymous | reply 141 | June 10, 2025 9:20 AM |
Couldn't have come at a worse time. And they think Pete Buttigieg has a shot in 2028. The Left has a death wish and MAGA is more than gleeful to fullfill it.
by Anonymous | reply 142 | June 10, 2025 9:46 AM |
by Anonymous | reply 143 | June 10, 2025 9:56 AM |
The funny thing is, despite his proclaimed non-binariness, he was happy to agree to being entered for the male category.
by Anonymous | reply 144 | June 10, 2025 10:56 AM |
R144 so he could have competed in the non binary category and didn’t? Kind of odd for a man wearing a dress to a formal occasion.
by Anonymous | reply 145 | June 10, 2025 11:07 AM |
Alex Newell (ex Glee, fat black sissy man who wears dresses) and J. Harrison Ghee (black, non binary, pan sexual) both won Tonys in 2023 and became "the first non binary people to win Tonys". Again, they weren't outraged enough at being called Male to give their awards back or decline the nomination.
The funny looking non binary girl from The Last Of Us has complained about gendered categories but accepted that there needed to be a category for women, presumably so she can get nominated.
The Drama Desk awards moved to "best performance" category rather than "best actor" and "best actress" with at least 10 nominees and at least 2 winners in each category. So far the make up of winners has been MF, MFF and FF.
by Anonymous | reply 146 | June 10, 2025 11:19 AM |
Nicole is a terrible person.
by Anonymous | reply 147 | June 10, 2025 11:21 AM |
"Umm ... hasn't it ALWAYS been a pronoun?"
yes
by Anonymous | reply 148 | June 10, 2025 11:22 AM |
The dress was merely a representation of his portrayal of Mary Todd Lincoln.
by Anonymous | reply 149 | June 10, 2025 12:59 PM |
"He can take his pronouns and shove them up his ass. "
Sorry, but there's no room up there. It's full of hot cock now that I won that Tony and am the toast of New York. Suck it, bitch.
by Anonymous | reply 150 | June 10, 2025 1:27 PM |
The theatre is too niche to have any effect on politics. Theatre people have always been arty and it's been a gay safe space since the beginning. Back in the day actors played all the women's roles in fact. I'm not a fan of the nonbinary pronoun but Cole is a unique artist. Let they do what they want.
by Anonymous | reply 151 | June 10, 2025 1:37 PM |
If you've followed Cole Escola's career, he's made a career of imitating Bernadette Peters long before he came out as non-binary. he even did a whole series of youtube videos called "My Friend Bernadette" where his friend would call him (in his role as Bernadette) and they'd talk on the phone. So going as Bernadette Peters circa the 1999 Tonys was a shout-out to his longtime fans (and there are such people)--he was being funny.
by Anonymous | reply 152 | June 10, 2025 1:48 PM |
That’s really boring cosplay….
by Anonymous | reply 153 | June 10, 2025 2:01 PM |
[quote] It did not deserve to win best play.
It didn't, R30. "Purpose" won Best Play.
by Anonymous | reply 154 | June 10, 2025 2:03 PM |
[quote]He has been on television before - playing a female character on Amy Sedaris’ show and as a waiter on Difficult People.
And it ruined both. It's way too cringe for me.
by Anonymous | reply 155 | June 10, 2025 2:05 PM |
[quote]When debating whether the Tonys should change the gendered categories, Escola had a few notes. “They should do it based on where you piss, and that’s what they should call it: Best performance by a person who uses a urinal. I sit down to pee, so I would go in that category, best performance by an actor who sits down to piss. I mean, that’s basically what they are now. Why don’t they call it that?”
by Anonymous | reply 156 | June 10, 2025 2:22 PM |
In other words, the award he just gushed over winning is actually fairly meaningless. Got it.
by Anonymous | reply 157 | June 10, 2025 2:27 PM |
Why does he sit down to urinate?
by Anonymous | reply 158 | June 10, 2025 2:28 PM |
Why would that matter to you, r158?
by Anonymous | reply 159 | June 10, 2025 2:37 PM |
Let Cole have his five minutes of fame in any way he wants. Since nothing can top his Tony win he is now out of material. Nobody will remember him five years from now.
by Anonymous | reply 160 | June 10, 2025 2:45 PM |
R143 - I'm not sure I understand that off-the-cuff comment about 4 more years.
But Nicole's religious views are outdated and annoying. Her 'praise God for everything as he has the Power' just reads performative and aggressive. Nobody wants to hear about your religious thoughts. She's fiercely anti-abortion as well.
I find it ironic that this super Christian woman who used her sexuality and dressed provocatively to become famous - finds critical success in a medium that's so heavily dominated by Jews, Liberals and Gays.
I've never liked her - but I do like her voice and she is talented. Her liking that Jesus MAGA hat wasn't some accident. She comes off as try-hard, wanting to be black-adjacent even though she's not, and smugly superior about her religion. Blech.
by Anonymous | reply 161 | June 10, 2025 2:46 PM |
[quote]The funny thing is, despite his proclaimed non-binariness, he was happy to agree to being entered for the male category.
Same as all the pathetic and *extra special* Democratic Socialists (DSA) running for public office as real Democrats.
by Anonymous | reply 162 | June 10, 2025 3:01 PM |
"Nobody wants to hear about your religious thoughts."
For all awards shows: eliminate the acceptance speech entirely, for everyone, for every category. Simply say thank you, then exist the stage. Nobody wants to hear your bullshit, blustery, tear- jerking spiel. It's the 21st century. There's plenty of room on social media for you to bloviate about how God loves you and how your 2nd grade teacher inspired you to greatness.
I watched this year's Academy Awards, (or attempted to). One of the first awards was presented to Kiernan Culkin, and as soon as he started blowing smoke about whether or not he and his wife should have more children, I switched channels.
by Anonymous | reply 163 | June 10, 2025 3:03 PM |
As a wannabe pretend woman based on these pictures he is actually pretty cute He pulls it off better than many. Bud Light should have been so lucky.
by Anonymous | reply 164 | June 10, 2025 3:06 PM |
R163 - unfortunately, those not in the spotlight want their names mentioned - producers, agents, publicists, managers, studios, etc. Nobody would ever go for that.
But this speech was just over-the-top and started with God straight away "I give you ALL the glory" - blech.
You know you're talking about your religion and its followers who have made life HELL for 95% of the people in that room honey, right?
I also hate when people thank God/Lord because he clearly picks winners and losers and implies that YOU are the chosen and protected and God does not like the others in your category. It's a massive insult that they do not think about.
It's as if her constant praying and throwing herself down before God gave her special treatment and success, which is just fucking gross and sounds really petty for a God to be spending so much time on a singer from Kentucky.
by Anonymous | reply 165 | June 10, 2025 3:19 PM |
He's 38. I hope he's not a one-hit wonder. All his characters seem to be similar 'women'.
by Anonymous | reply 166 | June 10, 2025 3:51 PM |
Cole Escola did something really brave by running through Times Square crying in his underwear in an episode of "Difficult People." Man, that took guts. If they really want to be brave and break the ceiling, why not wear a beautifully tailored tux? That could signal some great gender confusion.
by Anonymous | reply 167 | June 10, 2025 4:15 PM |
Julie Klauser was responsible for Difficult People, she wrote the whole damn show. That's why Billy Eichner was actually somewhat bearable, he didn't do any writing.
by Anonymous | reply 168 | June 10, 2025 4:18 PM |
[quote]R158 Why does he sit down to urinate?
Perhaps Cole is tired, being quite busy and accomplished?
by Anonymous | reply 169 | June 11, 2025 1:07 AM |
[quote]Why does he sit down to urinate?
Nothing to clean up after on the floor.
by Anonymous | reply 170 | June 11, 2025 2:42 AM |
I honestly don't see him making a foray into film. He'll get consistent theater work as well as the occasional Ryan Murphy tv gig.
by Anonymous | reply 171 | June 11, 2025 2:25 PM |
Is Cole a top or a bottom? Or does he abstain from anything sexual? I'd hate to put my dick in that mouth. Like putting your hand into a garbage disposal.
by Anonymous | reply 172 | June 11, 2025 3:00 PM |
Why won't he just dress the way I want him to? My preferences are more important than his!
by Anonymous | reply 174 | June 11, 2025 3:04 PM |
[quote]I'd hate to put my dick in that mouth. Like putting your hand into a garbage disposal.
Or into a woman who has vagina dentata.
by Anonymous | reply 175 | June 11, 2025 3:04 PM |
If I was nominated for an Oscar or Tony, you better believe I'd walk the red carpet in a drop-dead gown. I'd change into a tux after I got inside, but this is a Cinderella moment.
by Anonymous | reply 176 | June 11, 2025 5:42 PM |
they’s clit is SCRUMPTIOUS!
by Anonymous | reply 177 | June 11, 2025 5:56 PM |
Why does everyone have to filter everything through the “culture wars” narrative? He’s funny. Relax for fucks sake and just enjoy it.
by Anonymous | reply 178 | June 11, 2025 6:01 PM |
Is that a man?
by Anonymous | reply 179 | June 11, 2025 6:04 PM |
I don’t agree with “I got to be me 24/7/365”. There are some times and places when one should act as expected, even if it’s contrary to their usual appearance. Even when you’re the one who receives an award, it’s not all about you.
by Anonymous | reply 180 | June 11, 2025 6:11 PM |
More grating than a cheese grater.
by Anonymous | reply 182 | June 12, 2025 1:30 AM |
As a concerned eldergay cosplaying as a Concerned Teen Mom Concerned about Cole Escola's Concerned Teen Mom shtick, won't anyone think of today's teens!, oblivious to the importance of gender fuck and mucking about in neurodiversity?
by Anonymous | reply 183 | June 12, 2025 6:44 AM |
[quote]Julie Klauser was responsible for Difficult People, she wrote the whole damn show. That's why Billy Eichner was actually somewhat bearable, he didn't do any writing.
Difficult People was fucking hilarious. And, like Cole, Klausner had been making some very funny, decidedly kooky left-of-center comedy videos online since the early days of YouTube. I was so happy for her (short-lived) success with that show. She deserves an "Oh, Mary!" size hit.
by Anonymous | reply 184 | June 12, 2025 7:47 AM |
[quote]I just hope this hurts Jeffery Self on some level. I loathe Jeffery Self.
Why, r45?
by Anonymous | reply 185 | June 12, 2025 7:55 AM |
Um, OP, Broadway is on its last legs. The world doesn’t care about it.
by Anonymous | reply 186 | June 12, 2025 9:09 AM |
Without the drag (or whatever it's being called) Cole looks a lot like James Barr (best know as one of Piers Morgan's regular punching bags.)
by Anonymous | reply 187 | June 12, 2025 9:25 AM |