The Trump/Musk Fight is Staged

Perhaps this is a naive question in light of the profound stupidity of the American electorate, but just how many potential sales of Teslas to Democrats do you think were hinging on the staged fight?

I don’t think it is staged.

Elon = DOGE and he got kicked to the curb by Trump on top of becoming so publicly hated. That can’t feel good.

Elon is pissed he's not benefiting from the BBB, since anti-Climate Change forces drafting it have gutted subsidies for EVs.

So, it's real, for the time being, at least.

Elon is pretty much admitting to election interference... doesn't seem wise. And a catfight with Dump isn't going to undo any of the damage to the brand he brought on himself with the Nazi stuff and the callous disregard for the "parasites" whose jobs and livelihoods he destroyed. Nobody is going to forgive him for that shit.

OP, you sound like an idiot.

Are you also the same poster who runs around accusing everyone of being a Teacake sock puppet?

You act like you think your "brilliance" is doing everyone a favor. In reality, you're just a simp and an idiot.

This is clearly a real rift. And it's doing real damage to Trump's legislation. And I hope it continues.

Grow up.

[quote]Elon just wants to stop Democrats from abandoning Tesla.

It’s not going to work. NOBODY wants to be seen in one of those Nazi sleds.

It's real. He's an emotionally immature and unstable addict who flipped parties when Biden complimented an American EV competitor. All bets are off as these two continue to tweet rage in the middle of the night. There will be blood.

Donald Trump ATTACKS... Then Elon EXPOSES 2024 Election

This is definitely NOT staged, but it is entirely predictable. And delicious.

Burning Teslas will be what unites the country again!

They both gain be becoming enemies. So maybe it is stages. Musk is just saying his $ won Trump and the Republicans the elections. Maybe that's a little true.

Nope, it’s not staged. It’s real and completely predictable. A disaster for them both. Yay!

NO SHE DIDN'T!!!

Oh whoa! ⬆️

[quote] They both gain be becoming enemies.

Really, R11? Is that why Tesla stock is down 8 points today alone--because Musk has so much to gain?

I need more popcorn!

r13, that's basically the equivalent of Dominique Devereaux announcing the champagne is burnt!

When narcissists collide.

I love these two flinging their shit filled diapers at each other.

Musk gains by distancing from Trump. It makes the Tesla brand edgier and less tied to MAGA. Right now the Tesla brand is in the toilet. Forget about stock price for the moment.

It could be a real fight of course between two egomaniacs (one loon and one moron.)

Americans across the entire political spectrum are united in hating Tesla.

Trump will have ICE Barbie try to deport him.

Shit is getting real. Trump is publicly threatening to pull a Harvard and yank all federal support for Musk’s companies. Tesla is down 16% today as a result.

Musk may yet have more bombs to drop on Trump in retaliation.

Sending them both all the mutual damage vibes they deserve.

Weaves have been snatched!

Will the white South Afrikaner’s be sent back?

Which has the most to lose?

Christmas came early this year, kids!!!

R16: I need a larger popcorn bowl, too.

I hope they both rot in hell. The SOONER the better

I agree with OP.

Trump apparently forgot that when he gave Musk and his boys access to everyone's' info it included Donnies's too

I'm thinking it's real but it's too soon to tell.

Even if it's real I have a feeling it will fizzle out. Mutually assured destruction and all that

For epic hilarity, Trump could let in Chinese electric cars, which sell for as low as $8000. God knows what Musk has on Trump, but wouldn’t it be entertaining to find out?

I've seen bumper stickers on a few Teslas saying 'don't blame us, we bought it before we knew'.

Not on the cybertrucks, though.

A cybertruck is a choice.

BlueSky is all abuzz this afternoon.

OP's, Pic reminds me of this fight.

[quote]Elon just wants to stop Democrats from abandoning Tesla.

Far, far too late.

I really don't think so. Elon has gone after Dump in some pretty damaging ways the past few days. If it was stupid shit, I'd agree it was staged - but what Elon is coming out with.

Epstein File mention is not part of a staged fight. It is all delicious!

MAGA TURNS ON TRUMP AFTER BOMBSHELL

I actually hate Musk more than Dump. I’d love to see all his businesses go down the shitter.

This, off Bluesky: "As a Musk biographer, my view—based on the available evidence—is that if Trump and his team get their hands on Elon Musk’s federal citizenship application and compare it to the public acknowledgment by Kimbal Musk that he and his brother knowingly violated their student visas, Musk can be deported."

^ A regular Hint from Heloise, r42!

Everything is staged and has been for decades.

Including calling ex Canadian PM Justin Trudeau names and threatening to invade Canada.

All staged.

Not after he dropped the Epstein comment. Musk is a drug addict flailing out. He just happens to have billions and an extremely large platform. This seems very real. Musk is a drug addled mentally unwell weirdo. Trump is just a garden variety narc and racist.

Justin Trudeau is a robot, just like Donald J. Trump and the British Royal family. They are controlled by an secret Israeli team located inside Area 51.

[quote] [R13], that's basically the equivalent of Dominique Devereaux announcing the champagne is burned.

I mean, honey! And apparently there ain't no kind of caviar anywhere!

Canadian Grimes and that booger-picking kid need to be deported as well.

I don't think it's staged. The Epstein, impeached, etc. stuff is not something Trump's ego would ever agree to endure. You have to realize Elon is a drug addict and thus has the crazy, unpredictable side that often comes with that.

LOL. I see someone basically beat me to making my exact point. As usual, DL is on the ball.

But her emails...

[quote] You have to realize Elon is a drug addict and thus has the crazy, unpredictable side that often comes with that.

Whoever made the decision to put the US space program in the hands of the drug addict should be held accountable. That goes back way before Trump. It was always, always a terrible idea to give this one, erratic man so much power.

Trump knew about the drug use. That gave him leverage. And Trump used that leverage by leaking to the press about it.

OP, you’re a moron. Or living in Vladivostok. How are things in Vladivostok, comrade?

The second Musk pressed SEND on his tweet claiming DJT was on the Epstein list things got real personal real fast.

Fuck both of them. I hope they both get rectal cancer.

If Musk exposes election fraud, I’ll go out and buy a Tesla tomorrow.

Conspiracy theorists like OP are always wanting to prove how much smarter and in-the-know they are, and they're always wrong.

I Bel eve it is staged in that Trump wants to not appear as under Musk' thumb. But he doesn't want to loose Musk support either. So they staged a fight

Plus Musk is upset about everyone turning on Tesla. Hoping to boost sales.

I don’t think the Tesla brand is ever coming back.

OP must’ve missed that Bill Gates quote: “The world’s richest man killing the world’s poorest children…”

Elon Musk = #ETTD

[quote] But he doesn't want to loose Musk support either. So they staged a fight

That is absolutely nonsensical, R58.

Also R49, Trump is a HORRIBLE judge of character.

I can just imagine all the things he bragged about getting away with just to impress Elon.

it's not staged. his stock is tanking LOLOLOLOLOL

this is all about ego...

they were just using each other...

Down $47.35 or 14.26% today.

[qwuote] Trump is a HORRIBLE judge of character.

That would imply that Dump has character, R61.

Only the best people!

[quote]If Musk exposes election fraud, I’ll go out and buy a Tesla tomorrow.

Good Lord, why?? It's quicker and easier to just flush your money down the toilet.

He’s never winning the Left back.

I don't trust Musk as far as I could throw him - but I'd still love to see him keep throwing Dump under the bus.

I don't believe that gutting the EV subsidy is the reason. Trump had floated this long ago. Apparently Musk was fine with it because it was going to hurt his rival EV companies more than it would Tesla

Doesn't matter if Musk gets deported. He's the richest man in the world. He can live anywhere else.

Tesla is not the main source of Musk's wealth. It's Starlink and Space X. That's why the threat of the loss of those contracts is frightening to Musk, and I think he will not hesitate to spill the beans on Trump's illegal shenanigans if Trump follows through. I hope they take each other both down. Then we will have to fight JD Vance. But he doesn't have the charisma for crazy and marginalized people that Trump does.

Let’s wait to see action. So far, this may or may not be real. Just like Trump at WrestleMania.

It’s not staged but they will kiss and make up. They need each other.

Very VERY likely that they are laughing at all of us, I agree with OP

All the idiots invested in the idea these two narcissists and sociopaths are staging all of this for some reason that's never been stated. No end to the idiocy here.

Elon has been a complete fucking weirdo for a very long time, that "we didn't know excuse" is useless.

Don't forget about the person orchestrating all this: PUTIN.

They both work for HIM!

Musk works for Putin, R78?

We hate Mush whether he’s really fighting with Trump or not. He’s still a wacko and we’re not buying his shit.

For R79 (I can provide more, or do your own google search).

But I have also read lots of compelling evidence on Blue Sky.

Whoops Here's the link

I don't get it - so he turns on Trump and all of a sudden I'll forget what a Natzi pig he is and buy one of his swasticars? I don't think so.

r81/r82, that WSJ article said they've been in contact a lot. But in what way and why would Musk, the richest man in the world, be working for Putin? Nowhere in the article does it allude to that.

R84 Okay, for now I'll concede. Maybe "working for" isn't quite accurate, (It's too difficult right now for me to try and find one of the Blue Sky posts I was thinking of). But Musk's interests allay more with Putin than Dump, and getting JD in eventually was always part of their plan (and Peter Thiel's). Putin might have motioned to Musk that, perhaps, now sooner better than later.

It's all speculation but it seems very plausible to me.

Team R74.

This is not staged.

There is no reason for them to go nuclear at each other.

[quote]There is no reason for them to go nuclear at each other.

They're children, r87. Got it?

They’re in the process right now of making up.

R72, Actually, Tesla (or more accurately, its overpriced stock) *is* the main source of Musk's wealth. Hence that Tesla show on the lawn of the White House. You can only get so rich off the government teat.

I never thought it was staged but I never expected it to last long and looks like it hasn’t. Trump simply has all the power in that relationship. Musk can expose as many of Trump’s crimes he wants, but Trump will never pay for any of them. Trump can have Musk deported any time he wants. Or do anything else he wants to him.

I detest them both and wish they would annihilate each other but it ain’t gonna happen.

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[quote] Trump simply has all the power in that relationship.

Unless you believe that Musk rigged the election in Dump's favor, and still has the receipts to prove it.

I agree, it's a red herring. They're trying to divert attention away from something else.

How do you bounce back after calling someone a pedophile?

If Musk rigged the election, which wouldn’t surprise me, who’s going to remove Trump from office for election fraud?

Nobody.

Only way he’s outta there is via impeachment, which isn’t going to happen. And Trump’s DOJ sure isn’t going to go after Musk for election fraud.

Trump voters don’t care if he’s a pedophile, they’d hand over their own kids to him to abuse.

It's been a whole day - an aeon in news time. I have seen lots of shadow boxing, but no blood drawn. Until one does real harm to the other, I'll wait. It feels like reality TV now.

BTW, Stephen King weighed in --

Even if real, the King summed it up.

Of course, most people here are smart enough to know this is very real, not at all staged, and entirely predictable. The stubborn fools here who insist it's staged provide not one credible reason for why this would be a calculated, pretend war, nor do they explain why this is not very much in keeping with the nature of these two particular sociopaths, whose alignment was mutually beneficial, but because of their natures, ended like this.

The Tesla brand is destroyed on the left and center, it's only a brand for right wingers now, but specifically right wingers who desire electric vehicles, which is an extremely niche audience,

Tesla is still one of the highest selling car brands in America, R100. I know plenty of people who drive them and not a single one is a rightwinger.

Elon needs to put distance between himself and the Trump administration. That’s why he exited, and this “breakup” was the next step. Now what? Talking about how the Republican Party left him behind? Writing paychecks to Democratic candidates in the upcoming primaries?

R101 I wasn't talking about already owned Teslas. I know "liberals" loved them all through the Obama era. Their stock ans sales have been tanking for over a year now. You can't ignore that just because *you* "know people who drive them and not a single one is a rightwinger."

Elon torched the brand.

FWIW, the only time I see anyone driving a Tesla, besides the handful of deplorables in my neighborhood driving cybertrucks, they're an Uber driver, aka a gig worker contracted with a limo company (likely) owned by a wealthy deplorable. And I know far too many crypto right wingers claiming liberal bona fides over some performative and privileged bullshit like owning an overpriced electric vehicle. I don't know your friends but I'm just not buying your story, even if you believe it.

R101...

Elon has burned his bridge. It was Magas who were protecting him when the libs said he was a psycho who re-wrote Tesla history, claiming he invented Tesla. Now he has no one. All of his lies will come home to roost. The problem for Maga is he knows all their secrets as well. Trump gave him full access to everything, and if nothing else, Musk is a collector of bones. Peoplt think it was Dems buying Teslas? Lol it is dude bros mostly. I wonder what Trump will do with that cybertruck painted with his image on it,

Elon is worth 420 billion dollars. Money always wins over everything except deadly disease. He could promise everyone in congress 20 million dollars and still be worth over 400 Billion. Money stops investigations. He has enough to fund his own army. He has enough to start his own political party. He has plenty in spades to defeat Trump in any manner of different ways, if that was indeed his intended life's goal.

Elon can fuck up the GOP long after Trump kicks the bucket, assuming he doesn’t overdose first. Republicans who are falling in line behind Trump over Elon are being shortsighted.

This is not rocket science. Tesla is circling the drain and without the EV subsidies, it's burnt toast. Without government contracts, SpaceX and Starlink are done.

On the flip side, Elon manipulated the election, and the only question is whether it was from breaking the law through donations, skewing Twitter, buying votes, or outright fraud by manipulating vote counts. But this is not as powerful a weapon as Elon imagined; does anyone think that if he revealed that he outright stole the election that anything would change? Would the Republicans in Congress suddenly decide to go honest, impeach and remove Trump? Would the SCOTUS do... anything against Trump? Would MAGAts quietly accept the ultimate defeat?

It's hard to see any upside for anyone in this, but Elon stands to lose far more than Trump no matter how this plays out. And they'll realize this as soon as someone gets to either of them and points out that the winners in this whole scenario are the Democrats (which explains how we know this was not staged).

But don't worry, the Democrats will do nothing with this gift. Chuck Schumer is busy writing a strongly-worded letter, Hakeem Jeffries is MIA, and DNC chair Ken Martin is busy containing David Hogg's threat to primary do-nothing Dems in safe blue seats for doing nothing. Did I mention that the Democrats are doing nothing as the Republic crumbles?

NYTimes: Trump and Elon are splitsville—until they aren’t

[QUOTE] Mr. Musk and Mr. Trump did not have a feud five days ago and might not have a feud five days from now. Until proven otherwise, all of this is theater. Think of it as the political version of professional wrestling. For a few hours, everyone was diverted by the spectacle of a brawl between the world’s richest man and its most powerful person.

[quote] We hate Mush whether he’s really fighting with Trump or not. He’s still a wacko and we’re not buying his shit.

I take it by "we" you mean yourself and the British empire, Queen Victoria.

I would like Maury Povich to give paternity tests to these two stunt queens. Lindsey Graham and her baby need to know which of these cunts is the father.

I said it before and I hear the whispers in the air - as soon as the government finds a way to take control of Musk's SpaceX, which Steve Bannon floated out there recently, it would be a wrap for Elon in this country. They brought him close to see how they can take control. And it just might happen.

The government needs to take control of Starlink before anything else.

Nah. Neither one is smart enough to maintain a charade like this. And Elon is way too unstable for it to be an act.

"How do you bounce back after calling someone a pedophile?"

Trump is notorious for 'forgiving' people he can use. And he expects the same redemption for himself. He'll just lean in, shake their hand and oh-so sincerely pretend it never happened.

Sure, Jan.

I agree

r114 he did not just call him a pedo, he said he was in the Epstien files. Why every major network is not following up on this I have no idea. He posted it as fact and if anyone would know he would know.

I'm a liberal Tesla owner in California. None of us will be purchasing another Tesla.

Unlike the so-called assassination attempt in Butler Pennsylvania last year, this is not staged. I doubt Trump would want anybody being attention to his Epstein involvement.

And I’m a liberal driver in California r118! I am the one that cut you off, slammed on the brakes and then flipped you off!

Trade that turd in.

R120 Car is paid off, but I'm not currently working. While I can take the financial loss, it's much more feasible for me right now to drive the car until it dies (or maybe someone can steal it or wreck it for me in an accident).

[QUOTE] Unlike the so-called assassination attempt in Butler Pennsylvania last year, this is not staged. I doubt Trump would want anybody being attention to his Epstein involvement.

What Epstein involvement, R119? And how exactly would that hurt Trump? The man is in office, he controls congress and the country, and he’s a lame duck. What would Musk tweeting about Epstein do to Trump? You think his big ugly bill won’t pass now because Epstein came up?

So are they still on the outs? Or should we be queueing up Reunited by Peaches & Herb?

I think the bitch slapping phase is over and they've transitioned on to the "I don't know her" phase.

[QUOTE] Elon = DOGE and he got kicked to the curb by Trump on top of becoming so publicly hated. That can’t feel good.

Well if Elon = DOGE then he must be proud, R2, because DOGE is quietly continuing its mission like a slow acting poison in the federal government’s veins.

DOGE is destroying the country from within, and it's 100% by design.

And nobody will do a goddamn thing about it.

You think Jeffries will if he’s speaker in 18 months?

What would you like Speaker Jeffries to do, R127?

[quote]You think Jeffries will if he’s speaker in 18 months?

WTF does this mean? Deflect much, TROLL?

It means that the weak sauce Dems won’t launch immediate committee investigations into DOGE, the cunty brats scraping our data, Thiel’s data grab, the dismissal of the administrators who were in charge of keeping our data safe, or what’s happened to our personal information.

They will shrug, say it’s “ too divisive “ or “ they won’t answer our request “ and just ho on as if the biggest data breech in human history hasn’t happened under their noses.

Fucking democrats are weak, feckless and afraid to “upset” thugs and maggots. I’m sick of it. Hit them HARD with subpoenas and start tossing them in prison for ignoring them.

SCOTUS has already ruled that ignoring a congressional subpoena means you go to jail. This doesn’t need to be relitigated.

Grow some fucking ovaries and start sending these Gestapho thugs to prison when they refuse to answer questions.

Fucking prosecute them NOW. Stop making excuses and dragging shit out for years. Act like the rethugs and just round these cunts up and toss them overseas.

This is a fucking mob war and the dimwitted Dems act like it’s a kindergarten spat

[QUOTE]Dems won’t launch immediate committee investigations into DOGE,

You seem to be dead to congressional rules.

Since when can the minority party launch committee investigations? You should know your civics

Democrats are the minority on every congressional committee and the chairs are Republican. The Democrats can have shadow committee hearings, to discuss topics of contention, but they're toothless. Which Republicans or administration officials do you think will show up?

R130, so much crap in your post I don’t know where to start. But I will say: how the fuck are you going to charge anyone w Dump as President, bending the Justice Dept and FBI to his will? How the fuck can Congress enforce subpoenas when Repukes control both the House and the Senate?

And when Jan. 6 happened, who sent a slew of the offenders to jail, and then who freed them? Just fuck off with your self-righteous anger totally directed at the wrong people.

[QUOTE] It means that the weak sauce Dems won’t launch immediate committee investigations into DOGE

Pish posh. You can damn well guarantee that whatever Dem takes over the gavel of the Oversight Committee will immediately launch investigations into DOGE, burying the Trump regime in subpoenas, R130. But I wouldn’t expect much more than that. If you want to stop once and for all DOGE, you have to put another Democrat in the White House in 2028.

[QUOTE] If you want to stop DOGE once and for all*

Daddy don’t fight with him! I love him and I AM PREGNANT!

Please. When the Dems take back the House next year, they won’t do squat and we all know it.

All they did the last time was hold hearings and did any big fish go to prison or get executed for treason? Nope.

They were free to crime and crime again. Because fucking Democrats are too goddamn weak and pathetic to go after the people in charge.

I don’t really give a shit what the logic is for their political theater. Stop acting afraid to upset the thugs and the maggots. Prosecute the fat cunt Ginni Thomas for financing the terror attack on J6. Her group paid for those buses and coordinated them. Prosecute that goddamn cunt and strip her of everything they own.

What about the congresspeople who led the tours pointing out the tunnels like Loudermilk? Why wasn’t that prick or CroMagnon Marge prosecuted for that?

Nope. Just sit back, fuck around and make excuses about “that’s not the way it’s done” hoping the thugs will “play fair”. Fuck that.

Round them up, send them to the gulag and pretend you can’t get them back until it’s time to execute them for treason.

I’m sick of goddamn Democrats being afraid of their own shadows. They either need to grow a spine, or GTFO and let someone who WILL go after these traitors step up.

When does the fucking law matter? It’s already broken. Stop pretending that if you play fair the thugs will, too. They broke it, so the Dems should do the same - lock them up without trial because WE ALL KNOW THEY’RE GUILTY.

You sound just as emotional as Trump and Musk, r136, and it's getting in the way of your ability to think critically just like your nemeses.

Trump says Elon Musk will face 'very serious consequences' if he funds Democratic candidates:

[quote]The president also said he has no desire to repair his relationship with Musk after a feud between the two men erupted into public view earlier this week.

[quote]“No,” Trump said when asked if he had any wish to do so.

[quote]Asked if he thought his relationship with the Tesla and SpaceX CEO was over, Trump said, “I would assume so, yeah.”

[quote]You sound just as emotional as Trump and Musk, [R136], and it's getting in the way of your ability to think critically just like your nemeses.

Actually R136 makes a lot of goddamn sense.

This article sorta sums up the past week. Elon better go into hiding.

Is Trump threatening to have him killed?

R141 Trump doesn’t or can't control what he says or sends out on social media, so I think he is unlikely to be able to get a hitman because the first rule of working with hitmen and organized crime is keeping your mouth shut. I believe that's why we haven't experienced a lot of unexplained “accidental” deaths of the many people formerly in Trump’s orbit who have turned against him since 2017.

There is still zero action other than word exchanges and barbs. Until someone does something, this is just palace intrigue.

Remember when Eileen went off on those cave divers so many years back, he’ll get fixated on this.

R143 I call it the daily installment of “Real Housewives of the White House.”