‘And Just Like That’ season 3

I’m watching and I hate myself

I was wondering when it would start. I thought it would start midnight. 2 minutes left.

I hate myself for loving to hate watch it.

It's truly the definition of a hate spiral.

Finishing Hacks, first. Also, still digestig dinner so want to give it a fair chance.

I love the show. Idc how bad it is it’s still entertaining

Thank you for starting a thread, OP. I plan on hate watching later on.

One more cocktail and I’ll be ready to watch.

Omg Cynthia Nixon’s wig is so bad!

Is that freak Che coming back?

WTF at the hat Carry is wearing.

r8 Maybe I am blind, but it doesn't look bad.

Rosie O’Donnell and Miranda fuck

Miranda fucked Rosie the virgin nun.

carrie is wearing a mushroom

[quote]Who else will be watching!?

I'd rather get fingerblasted by Che Diaz

R15. My ex wife Mawanda loves Che's fingahs.

carrie has phone sex w aiden

How does Miranda age the best? CN aged better than all of them. SJP looks ok sometimes and other times she looks 85.

I’m glad Cynthia got a party city wig before they went out of business!

carrie's huge brownstone is lame

R20 Did she renovate the old one?

I’m calling it. Time of death: 5/29/25; 9:57pm.

R21 she sold it.

R18 they don’t have the same genetics.

R24 duh but I would’ve never guessed that Cynthia Nixon would have aged better than the rest, especially Kristen Davis.

Isn't Cynthia married to Mason Reese?

That episode was really good.

r27 - no.

R14, HR Puffinstuff called and he wants his fuckin' hat back.

I liked it. I am broken hearted and ashamed, but I liked it. Seema's a whiny cunt, and the finger bang was killing me, but I liked it. Easy, amusing. If this was E1, S1, we'd be raving.

I liked it too. It was very simple and easy and lighthearted. It felt like what season 1 should have felt like

It was airless. I want grit. I want middle-class striving Carrie. Her manse is cringe.

Grit? You must have never watched SATC.

Go watch Breaking Bad.

WTF happened. This was a really good, really funny episode. Seema is officially Samantha and I love her. I hope this continues for the whole season.

Seema is nothing like Samantha nor should she be like Samantha. She’s a different character.

Feels like they retconned Charlotte’s daughter Rock being trans. They didn’t call her by name at all and she was dressed like a girl again etc.

r36 Kids go through phases.

R37 correct, which is why people rushing to put their 5 year olds on blockers needs to not happen.

God that was even more boring and insufferable than I thought it was going to be.

Is rosie the dyke from Winnipeg in this episode?

Rosie O is playing a......what now?

Samantha was never as arrogant as Seema.

[quote] CN aged better than all of them.

Just a natural beauty, I guess!

I'm waiting for the cat to get dumped after it poops in one of her shoes.

We need more of Gilded Age and less of this brain rot.

The “Sex and the City” women return for more antics as they navigate love in the Big Apple in their 50s

Ummmm...

Sarah Jessica Parker Born: March 25, 1965

Michael Patrick King cannot write. He's lost his own thread.

R46 I've been in my 60s for like 10 minutes you cunt.

R45 you do know you can just not watch, right?

R46 SJP is 60. Carrie isn’t.

r49 I'm not watching, I was just stating a general truth, dear.

The "Oh no" queen at the doggy day care cracked me up.

Didn’t feel like a season premiere at all. Did they even explain Che and Nya’s departures?

I was just listening to an interview with Michael Patrick King, and it strikes me how much he really doesn’t get it. He said that Sarah Jessica told him everyone was going to hate Carrie because of this ridiculous new home she has, but he told her she was crazy. That instead, everyone was gonna love Carrie because it’s aspirational. So tone deaf. It was both a weird and terrible choice to make every character ridiculously wealthy. In the same episode, you have the young woman saying that Miranda’s former townhouse was her goal. You have both Charlotte and LTW living in expansive Park Avenue apartments. No one even thinks about money. It’s simply not how New Yorkers, including very high net worth New Yorkers, live in 2025.

Actually, let me clarify my statement. You could have a show where they are all ridiculously wealthy, if that were your thesis statement. For instance, Gossip Girl. But if you do that, you have to throw some other wrench in the plan, like they’re all in the thick of raising young kids. Or they have big jobs. Or they’re under some sort of serious threat. Whatever it is. But both the reason for existence and proof of concept of the SATC world was always that Carrie is in everywoman navigating modern New York. Now you have her in the. .01% without any real problem to speak of. A woman who didn’t have kids. Whose biological family has never given her problems. Who has moved from fantasy job to fantasy job with ease. It’s just a bad framework to begin with, and the less than stellar writing doesn’t help.

Has Rosie ever played a character that wasn’t mentally retarded?

Also, she was playing a virgin nun who never had sex and her first time was with a political tilt a whirl?

I’m convinced MPK hates John Corbett because that phone sex scene was so incredibly cringe it was unwatchable.

And Seema is not Samantha. She’s an unmade bed.

Seema should’ve also been cut. Actually, I would’ve been totally fine cutting LTW as well. From the beginning, the writers have been fighting the original formula (no Carrie voiceovers, not the original gals, etc) because they wanted to differentiate the show. It was another mistake. It feels like they are slowly reconning it back a little, but it’s too little too late.

For R55: The infamous (scathing, possibly unhinged harsh even for that movie) review of the worst of the movies:

"[SatC2] is 146 minutes long, which means that I entered the theater in the bloom of youth and emerged with a family of field mice living in my long, white mustache. This is an entirely inappropriate length for what is essentially a home video of gay men playing with giant Barbie dolls."

Yup, R59. I remember Tina Fey saying something very early on in the original series run. This is when everyone loved the show and the quality was good, and she did as well. But she said something to the effect of how she had never met a single New York woman who acted like any of these women. How they were really gay men.

MPK seems similar to Andy Cohen in his insistence that he has some sort of special insight into what makes these women tick. But both men seem to approach it from the lens of gay culture, not the lens of actual NYC woman. It’s Truman Capote esque.

Now that Carrie is alone, she lives in a huge house twice the size of where she lived with big?

I never want to see Carrie Bradshaw have phone sex.

This was the worst episode yet.

I was looking down from Heaven on the scene, r61, and it was a beautiful moment of which I approved.

I can't believe anything else was done after the hideous SATC2.

Everyone involved must be getting serious bank to grind this out.

Not me, R62.

The new series is retarded but still appealing somehow. Some of the fashion is still fun to see.i do t like Seema she’s annoying

It does feel like the SATC2 writers remain in charge.

Seema's like original recipe Charlotte, whiny and needy, with Samantha's dry delivery and Miranda's neuroses.

By the end of the series she will probably be happily married to a woman but fired from the show.

Like I have nothing better to do on a Thursday night than watch an elderly social X-ray finger herself.

And what did Miranda use to get Mary off? A basketball?

Didn't the sex happen rather quickly for lesbians?

I mean, and maybe this a by gay men standards, but wasn't Sister Mary was the kind of gal who needed to earn the but she has a great personality badge before she visited Miranda's snackateria?

I feel badly for Cynthia.

2 Emmys

2 Tonys

Latest storyline: deflowering Rosie O’Donnell on HBO Max

R69. Sister Mary was only in town for a few days and decided after 60+ years that she needed to lose her virginity and see Wicked NOW.

New York is a helluva town, r71!

Well, if they wanted to find the one sex hookup that would be even more repellant than Miranda and that hideous Che......congratulations, mission accomplished!

I hate that they made Miranda a lesbian because it’s basically been all she’s played for the past three seasons. She used to be the most interesting character.

It doesn't make sense that Miranda is living like a nomad while Steve and Brady are settled in a loft.

I could see DL fave Lens Dunham guest starring as one of Miranda's lady lovers.

R76 with fingerless gloves!!

Agree r58

The reality is Aiden would be hooking up with a 30-something. A good- looking wealthy guy would have his pick

New York Times Recap

Real talk: I hate the minority storylines. I don’t care about Seema or the other one

They should have created a brand new show with these characters.

This bitch.

I love Nicole Ari Parker but her Lisa character is so bland she makes Charlotte look interesting by comparison. I blame the writing, not the actor.

No more scenes with Aidan alone in his car. The crying thing last season plus the j/o scene in ep. 1, just no.

So, Kristen Davis is getting paid for doing almost nothing.

"Her" storylines are about her kids and dog - lol.

Kudos to her for raking in money to call in her performance.

None of these people will ever work again. Get them coins, hunty!

Which is ridiculous, R85, because there are a million stories they could tell about an UES mommy with kids in a private school. That’s a whole world onto itself, and yet they made both of those kids dull and/or odd.

The owner of Peanut was a horrible, amateurish actress. However, that was the most restrained and best acting I have ever seen from Rosie O’Donnell.

I can't believe I'm writing this but Rosie has never LOOKED better.

You need cataract surgery R89!

[quote]I was just listening to an interview with Michael Patrick King, and it strikes me how much he really doesn’t get it. He said that Sarah Jessica told him everyone was going to hate Carrie because of this ridiculous new home she has, but he told her she was crazy. That instead, everyone was gonna love Carrie because it’s aspirational. So tone deaf. It was both a weird and terrible choice to make every character ridiculously wealthy. In the same episode, you have the young woman saying that Miranda’s former townhouse was her goal. You have both Charlotte and LTW living in expansive Park Avenue apartments. No one even thinks about money. It’s simply not how New Yorkers, including very high net worth New Yorkers, live in 2025.

They did the storyline last season where Miranda was unhoused and sleeping on the professor's sofa. To quote Valerie Cherish, who was offered Samantha before Kim Cattrall, I don't need to see that.

It's a comedy drama about 3 wealthy white women pushing 60 who do fabulous things. They experienced hardship like that time Carrie lost her computer and was kept awake by chickens and Samantha was kept away by the trannies. They dated men who still lived with their parents.

If you want something more gritty, watch something more gritty.

I’m not sure that the series was ever supposed to be particularly relatable—with the exception of the sex and dating stuff.

R91, a massive townhouse on Gramercy Park isn’t just wealthy. It’s a whole other level.

And no, I will watch what I want to watch, and I will also give my feedback on what I think would help what is probably the most roundly criticized show on TV.

But it was relatable, R92. The original series run, and particularly the first few seasons, were a heightened version of a New York that felt very familiar at the time. It was toward the end of the run, and especially at the time of the first movie, that they decided to instead lean into the over the top displays of wealth.

[quote][R91], a massive townhouse on Gramercy Park isn’t just wealthy. It’s a whole other level.

And The Widow Bradshaw has earned it!

I thought Rosie was Rosanne Barr at first.

Anyone know how much Carrie’s fancy new townhouse would cost? Also, is the exterior realistic?

If so, wow it’s beautiful

I don't understand what they're doing with Aidan. If he's gonna be Carrie's long distance boyfriend then make him her long distance boyfriend. If he's not gonna be her long distance boyfriend, then write him off the show.

Tasteful friends, this is the high end of the market.

I'm starting to think that this show is post-criticism and post-cringe. We all know what we're in for.

I'd live there.

The townhouse is dreamy indeed but too big and impractical for an elderly single woman.

Those stairs alone are a killer

Rosie left oks better than she did in her youth. She still seems special though

That stupid fucking hat.

That stupid fucking giant ball necklace that stupid Lisa is wearing.

Seema's dumping a rich movie producer. She's a idjit.

Who else forwarded through that revolting phone sex scene? They're OLD.

I did r107. I couldn’t watch it for real

I like LTW and Seema, but juggling then as main-level characters is a lot. The show seems rushed like they HAVE to fit so much stuff in every episode.

This episode was more like the old show.

SJP looked 81 during most of it until she was doing the phone sex scene where she actually looked like a good looking older Carrie. Watch it again. You saw her SATC face a bit older. She should never wear her hair pulled back.

R109 Totally agree. They never should’ve made them main characters. No one cares. They tried to do too much diversity,which I’m all for, but they did it badly.

LTW's husband is so nicely thick. Can he do a solo jerkoff scene?

Mehcad Brooks is in episode 2? Can he fuck LTW's husband?

Oh, God, is that her phone sex hat r82? Shit, what the fuck is that? Too late, now I'm going to see it every time. Goddamn, it's ruined forever!

[quote] LTW's husband is so nicely thick. Can he do a solo jerkoff scene?

I find him very sexy.

I don’t mind LTW and Seema. I’d rather watch them than the endless “Miranda’s a lesbian now” shit.

They’ve tightened the ensemble enough now that they should be able to serve the main characters in an hour long episode, it’s just that everyone’s storyline is pretty darn boring and few of them overlap in a meaningful way. There’s nothing tying it all together the way the original series did via the Carrie column/voiceovers.

Carrie's clothes are more ridiculous than ever, esp. given that she now looks old. Seema is just annoying as is Charlotte's home life. Miranda must have had one heck a makeover because she looks better than recent pics of Nixon. The nun storyline just seemed random. The phone sex thing just seemed random.

I would have preferred they keep Che and her tackiness than Seema.

Lose them both. Che was a nightmare. Miranda still acts like she's 14.

I really enjoyed laughing at Che

Rosie was great.

R56 only no. They’re all in their 50s. The storylines you’re creating are for young people. Gossip Girl was HS kids. These are women getting near 60. And rich people exist. Many do. In NYC. Living in the areas these ladies do.

I want Chris Jackson inside me while singing his songs from Hamilton.

R60 that was a criticism of the OG series by a few critics back in the late 90s into 00s. Many people said the women were actually gay men, especially Samantha.

R61 she had phone sex more than once in the OG series too. Did you never watch?

They made Miranda a lesbian at the request of Cynthia. She wanted to incorporate some of her real life into the character. R74

R83 couldn’t disagree more. I liked Lisa a lot this episode. And she’s so pretty.

R85 she got paid to do almost nothing in the final seasons of SATC and in both films. Her entire storyline in the final season was getting pregnant, same with the first movie and then her storyline in the second movie was her being a mom.

R93 issue is no one wants your “feedback”. Also, complaining on a random forum isn’t “feedback”. It’s just complaining. Look up what feedback is.

If I don’t like something I don’t watch it. Who hates something to the point they complain about it FOR HOURS straight but refuse to stop watching it? That is ridiculous behavior.

R94 the series was not relatable. Only the first 2 or 3 reasons. The women gained more wealth with time. It happens. That’s life. Some people score. Some don’t. Charlotte married rich and then inherited an apartment worth millions and jewelry etc. worth millions, and then married a lawyer. Samantha was always pretty wealthy from the start. Miranda was a successful attorney. Carrie was the only one who struggled with money at times and then Big happened. A millionaire.

When he died she inherited his fortune.

R98 and that’s the stupidest complaint you’ve given on the thread, and that’s saying something!

I watched every episode of BULL for LTW’s husband. He played a gay stylist turned lawyer.

I like Lisa. She’s the best of the new characters. I don’t mind Miranda being a lesbian but I think she could get better women

Why is Aiden always in his truck? Is he secretly a hobo?

It’s so his kids don’t hear him. His car is probably his alone place.

All is forgiven since they ended it with the best song ever.

I haven't watched that woman since Square Pegs

R137 haven’t heard that song since season 1 of Veronica Mars.

Get rid of seema. She doesn't fit and is boring. She is a samantha wannabe.

Seema is the opposite of Samantha

Samantha wanted a lot of sex but without real intimacy or affection and pushed away men who wanted more.

Seema wants sex with intimacy and affection and is pushing away men who won't give her that.

Are nuns allowed to have lesbian sex?

R142 obviously not.

Does NYC even have a lesbian bar?

The lesbian bar scene was transphobic - Miranda says lesbian bars she went to were "like law school but without the penises".

NEWSFLASH: LESBIANS CAN HAVE DICKS!

The show runs purely on hate watch fumes. But that admittedly works. I watched it and I hated it. And I will watch and hate again.

[quote] All is forgiven since they ended it with the best song ever.

Actually, it started with the best song ever.

SJP's hat in the park was so over the top, it screamed: "I am a woke supporter of nameless fashion designers trying to get their name out there" and she looked beyond ridiculous. Her townhouse on Gramercy Park is basically billionaires row these days, and her going from a small one bedroom to this monstrosity is another tone-deaf move. The show has no heart and definitely no soul. If you take a turd and a brownie and blend them together you get 'And Just Like That'. :(

R123, I wasn’t saying those should be plot lines for AJLT. I’m saying that to heighten the stakes and create a compelling show, you have to give your wealthy characters more obstacles. In my opinion, that is one of the major flaws of this show. The stakes are extremely low.

Oddly defensive post, R130. But with all due, while you explain the rules of feedback on this silly little forum, I will continue to weigh in however I damn well please.

No, R150. No you will not.

And so it is decreed.

In real life, Seema would be washed up and too old to find anybody, because she's too high maintenance and probably crazy. She's the kind of new friend who doesn't last long because eventually you say oh, now I get it.

And she smells of curry.

R147, I love that song too! One of the most annoying things I’ve noticed is the canned Muzak-type music they were using in both the movies and the new show. I always attributed in to the salaries of the actresses being so high that they couldn’t afford the rights to good music anymore. The sappy stuff they were using was so jarring, they had pretty good music for the shows. The music in this episode was much better.

I will say that I thought this episode was better written in that it had the lightness and ease of the earlier seasons—the jokes were pretty good and the dialogue was funny and interesting. But I agree that the lives these women now lead are so far removed from real life characters that it’s kind of insulting. How many women (and men) can relate to any of their lives? I get that if you’re in NY for many years, you probably have achieved some wealth and status, but they’re off the charts wealthy. It’s so off-putting.

Finally one silly observation. Has ballet sunk to such a level that only about 10 people attended the concert?

Cynthia Nixon’s fountain of youth:

R144, yes. Henrietta Hudson and the Cubby Hole to name two.

The most realistic thing about the episode was the big theater being near empty for the ballet.

I gave up on this mess halfway thru the first season but my spouse convinced me to watch the season three premiere and I enjoyed it! Granted I was stoned out of my mind, which helped me enjoy the truly awfulness of most of it, but I laughed a lot.

The Rosie/Miranda storyline was fun. Don’t understand the point of the two new main women characters, but whatevs. They didn’t suck —just don’t understand their place in the show other than awkwardly stuffing in some diversity. But the Adian/Carrie storyline. He’s leaving for 5 years?! And they can’t have contact during that time? He moved to Pennsylvania, right? Which borders NY? And they can’t figure out how to visit each other? The phone sex scene was just awful and they should go back to no contact.

I’m sticking with it at least until Patti Lupone shows up.

Well actually he’s banished to Virginia, which is farther away and technically the South.

The real issue here is that Aidan was never a good match for Carrie, and either the actor didn’t want to commit to the series or the showrunner decided that settling Carrie down with another Love Of Her Life at this point in the series was a bad idea. So they contrived this ridiculous way to keep them apart.

The end trailer showing snippets from the upcoming season suggests that Carrie at some point takes up with a younger man and that at some point Aidan returns expecting to move in with Carrie and manages to ruffle her feathers when he decides to take over half of her walk-in closet.

Maybe Patti will show up as a brutal truth sayer, telling Carrie she’s too fucking old to dress like that and that she’s a narcissistic cunt.

Patricia Field doesn’t do the clothes for this so the styling is always slightly off.

The styling is horrible, r161. In S&TC, The women were always well dressed according to their characters, with Carrie’s costumes slightly off the charts, but she never wore designer clothes—only designer shoes and purses. It looked like she actually got a lot of her clothes from thrift shops. Miranda wore suits for work but otherwise dressed casually, Samantha wore sexy clothes, but they were also professional as befitting her job. (Seema, as her substitute, also dresses way over the top for her job.) And Charlotte was preppy.

John Corbett can’t act, is the problem

Patti is apparently Anthony's mother.

Given recent events, chef's kiss.

[quote]Maybe Patti will show up as a brutal truth sayer, telling Carrie she’s too fucking old to dress like that and that she’s a narcissistic cunt.

I'm sure she will. It may not be part of the show, but it's very likely, yes.

There are some major problems. One: Kristin Davis cannot act. At least, in the original, she was given some juicy storylines and rescued by competent actors like Kyle McLachlan. Now she is playing opposite children and dogs. It is painful.

SJP has aged poorly. Her bizarre wardrobe does not help. Neither does her sad, massive, empty brownstone. She looks like Rapunzel (so said Anthony, accurately!).

Cynthia Nixon can act, but suddenly being a lesbian is the only part of her identity. She's a completely new character from the original. It is unfortunate.

Seema is no Kim Cattrall.

The other family - Nicole Ari Parker and her brood - seem to belong in a different show.

Sigh.

I love Nicole Air Parker but it does feel like they were a great idea to support Charlotte's white cluelessness in one episode back in the so woke we broke it season.

Seema's the character that's failing. She started out as cool and aggressive but she's just a picky old grump. She's single at sixty. What does that tell you?

The Red Rooster scene was cringeworthy.

The look at R52 has been giving me deja vu, but she's dressed like the original 80s Strawberry Shortcake dolls, mostly Apple Dumpling, little bit of Apricot with a dash of Purple Pie Man.

It looks like something that fell on her head and no one has told her.

The season does not need to end with a Carrie/Aiden geriatric dream wedding with Carrie wearing a FABULOUS designer dress designed for someone 30+ years younger. I fear that is what is coming.

Can't wait for the appearance of Patti LuPone given the current bruhaha.

Carrie looked like a slutty Holly Hobby with that ridiculous hat.

that hat really deserves a thread of its own

Here is my question. What on earth did Big do to leave her all that money? Nobody lives like that.

Carrie's hat had me craving Jiffy Pop.

They made Anthony apologize for walking in his truth and almost put him in friendship jail, and yet Carrie walks freely through the streets of New York City with monstrosities on her head.

Unfair! She always an apology to the entire city, if not the entire world.

oops, "owes" not "always."

That hat made the episode look like a Mad TV spoof of the show.

Watched it lad5 night. Jesus, wtf was Carrie wearing? First scene she walked out wearing a bridal negligee then later the biggest gingham prairie bonnet ever made. Are we supposed to believe NY women walk around like this?

Charlotte still looking freaky from fillers and, lord, she is a terrible actress. Her kids are boring.

Did they get rid of the other Black lady? Miranda's professor?

I can't get interested in Seema or the other Black family. Poor Harry has zero to do.

The show seems to have been written by people who have never been married or had kids. Every family I know has issues—yet these people have none. I am not even referring to the excessive wealth, either.

Yup, R181. I’ve never seen a show with so many family members who have absolutely no role. They’re just there.

[quote]Did they get rid of the other Black lady? Miranda's professor?

The actress is also in The Morning Show and was largely absent for the last series. I'm sure I remember reading a lot of her scenes were filmed separately as she was in LA and the rest were in NYC.

[quote]The show seems to have been written by people who have never been married or had kids. Every family I know has issues—yet these people have none. I am not even referring to the excessive wealth, either.

You mean you missed the storylines about Brady in the first couple of seasons, the storylines about Charlotte's 2 kids and her expectations for them, and the whole reason Aiden can't commit to Carrie being because of his kids?

I hope Rosie gets an Emmy nod for playing Sister Mary of Winnipeg. MAGA will melt.

I saw a video of Cynthia talking about working with her old friend Rosie - she said MPK had asked her to be in the 2 previous seasons but she finally said yes to this season.

Cynthia said Rosie is great and played the character with humanity, meaning it's ok to laugh at her as long as you pity her too.

Is Sebastiano Pigazzi (Guiseppe) gay? He is HOT.

r157 I didn't get it. Was it because it was a day show??

"Here is my question. What on earth did Big do to leave her all that money? Nobody lives like that."

He was generally understood to be in finance and business - which is incredibly vague. Were supposed to assume that he had some very high level, very lucrative job. Plus, maybe he had family money - though that wasn't really revealed in any way. He would emphasize his work at times like it was really important, he had the big "Paris deal" that fell through. When Carrie couldn't afford the down payment for her apartment, she went to him and said how she had read about how he had turned a modest amount of money into a lot of money. So he was vaguely rich but we never knew the specifics.

I imagine there was also some life insurance that came the way of The Widow Bradshaw.

OMG I don't know why I've only just realised this but if Carrie married Aiden and went double barrelled she would be Carrie Bradshaw-Shaw or would she be Carrie Shaw-Bradshaw? That would be a wedding for Liza to attend.

I just don't know why we can't have Carrie do the voiceover over the entire series like she used to. I thought Exec Producer Michael Patrick King has said they would do that. Additionally, they're defintley trying to "lighten up" the serious with lots of colors. Everyone including the extras are wearing lots of colors.

I'm sorry WHAT kind of stage direction was given to poor Aiden that he had to "LICK" his hand and then put it down his pants while jerking off in the truck. This isn't a porno and it was gross. Oh I could go on and on it's just not the original series and never will be. But I thought it would be a bit more organic from the original to this one.

Can we talk about Sebastiano Pigazzi??? I can’t believe there’s no separate thread yet on this Italian hottie. What is this? This is supposed to be Datalounge. Can we stop talking about the stupid politics all the time and focus on what is really important?

It was entertaining but SJP should never wear her hair severely pulled back. Makes her look ancient.

I had to look up the credits for the woman who was bitching about Charlotte's dog attacking her dog, she was the actress who ran the first funeral home they went to when Big died.

The Anthony bottoming arc was actually pretty funny. I am enjoying the second season. And the way they wrote Sanford out was pretty well done too.

They really need to 86 the extra dead cast. Give Anthony more airtime. As was mentioned above, the show feels rushed to squeeze in as many people as possible and it doesn’t work. The new characters were introduced in inorganic ways. I don’t connect to them except the Italian because he is linked to Anthony. I feel like they should’ve made one of Charlotte’s kids like able. They need better writers. SJP has to see the need.

Yeah, that is the thing r196. It was not a terrible idea to introduce some black characters but it's all so half-assed and not thought out. It just feels like "Carrie's black friend called her today to bitch about some stupid date, but now we can get back to the real characters." And Charlotte's kids are just nothing, I guess just stand ins for "woke" kids these days, but that is also half-assed and no thought behind it.

I can't wait for the Anthony - Patty LuPone smackdown.

They should get rid of the lawyer or Seema. Both are too much. Rosie O’Donnell was excellent. Maybe she could get a recurring role as a friend not lover of Miranda.

[quote]I'm sorry WHAT kind of stage direction was given to poor Aiden that he had to "LICK" his hand and then put it down his pants while jerking off in the truck. This isn't a porno and it was gross.

Mary!

The sole saving grace is that Carrie hasn’t changed.

:ring-ring:, “Okay I’m ready to masturbate, now, please.”

“Oh, well can’t you go in the other room or be really quiet so your son doesn’t hear?"

Seema seema lotta work.

Meanwhile, across town, Miranda was hosting a very serious gender ordeal party after Patti LuPone told her to shove it up her bustle.

I hate watched the first two seasons of this mess, but I just can’t do it any more.

The original impulse to end SATC at its peak popularity after six seasons was correct. As an avid fan, I missed the show but was glad they ended it before they could ruin it. But then came those movies and this AJLT dreck.

The first movie was okay — they [italic]absolutely[/italic] should have stopped after that. The second movie was so awful, such a caricature of the show and the characters, that is what killed the franchise’s magic. This AJLT shit is just pissing on its grave.

I remember reading a review of the second movie that said it was like watching your oldest, dearest friend getting bashed to within an inch of their life in a dark alley.

Oh come on guys, AJLT is not THAT bad.

I've always wondered why SJP who has serious literary creds (her own fiction imprint, current Booker Prize judge) has allowed so much pure trash to be written for her and performed by her. Surely she can't think this shit is good.

“ I hate watched the first two seasons of this mess, but I just can’t do it any more.”

mary?

"In shedding so much of the clutter it, like Carrie’s studio, had been accumulating since the 20th century, AJLT finally feels less like an SATC hangover and more like its own preposterous yet generally fun thing."

The New York Times panned it, and the commentaries have been nothing short of brutal.

Sebastiano Pigazzi did full frontal in the Luca Guadanino HBO series with Chloe Sevigny, practically a micropenis. They must have used a Ken Ryker dildo for his scene in the tacky breadboy delivery outfit.

Of course they used a prosthetic penis. I never expected him to be that huge. But also didn't think he'd be micro.

R210 that is very disappointing to hear.

The long blonde hair isn't doing SJP any favors.

Who was looking at what shoes SJP was wearing when she had that contraption on her head?

And just like that ... DataLounge queens entirely overlooked that they retired the (literal) "and just like that..." voiceover at the end of each ep. Remember the weird scene where Carrie was mad at Anthony? She said, "Boom – and just like that, I'm not mad anymore."

Awkward & cringe, though I know it's the Rosie scenes in bed with Miranda that'll give me PTSD for years. (Unlike actual New York women, nuns don't get Brazilians.)

They need Carrie Coons

Has Carrie ever mentioned her family?

I know Miranda is from that place they went to when her mother died and she got felt up by the lezzie in the bra shop. And she has a sister.

Charlotte has a brother who fucked Samantha but I can't remember where she was from originally.

Her parents would be about dying now, R216. Hopefully, they spare us another Carrie Funeral scene.

Pretty sure Charlotte was from Connecticut.... the brother was Wesley, wasn't he? Think Miranda was from Philadelphia (the upper middle class suburbs, I'd guess.) I think I remember Carrie saying something cryptic about her mother once, but it was almost an aside.

Carrie mentioned her father basically disappearing (so Daddy issues with Big). Miranda seemed very Main Line Philly---father was dead by the time mother died. Charlotte was either from Westchester or Fairfield County. Samantha was from someplace that had backyard swimming pools (probably above ground).

Reddit, and I know I sound naive for posting this, is absolutely melting down about AJLT. They hate it. They hate everything about it. It is quite entertaining. Makes the reaction on DL look scholarly. Lacks the wit and phrasing of here but my God the sincere horror at it all is hugely entertaining.

Didn't Samantha once say something about her mother being a drunk?

What was weirdest about Carrie’s mushroom has was that she could wear it without anyone commenting on it. This is New York?

There could be, if you were thoughtful, intelligent writers, a whole episode about Carrie's fashion choices. Have her get mocked in the street and then some introspection, along with a healthy dose of the girls at the diner: By the time I had to get home, I had to look in the mirror and ask myself: Was I lucky Mr. Blackwell was dead?

I lost interest early on. I kept it on but I got up and did other stuff. It seems tired. There needs to be some strife or striving.

One of the things I find is a downside to streaming series is there's no discipline about the production schedule... a couple of years can pass between the end of one series and the resumption of the next.

And if you're at a stage of life that might be called really aging... (naming no names)... it can really show.

2 criticisms of the show: OMG LOOK AT KRISTIN'S FROZEN FACE SHE LOOKS AWFUL and OMG LOOK AT SJP'S SAGGING FACE SHE LOOKS SO OLD

Honestly,

r221

Sam's mom was a drunk with 3 kids. Samantha also worked at a dairy queen

I’ve weighed in several times here about the excessive wealth, but I have to admit I was surprised to learn that Carrie’s new apartment, which looks so huge, is “only” 1700 sq ft. Obviously not small for NYC, but I live in an apartment that’s just over 1300 sq ft and it certainly doesn’t feel big. Some of my extremely rich friends live in places double or even triple the size of mine.

Charlotte is from CT and went to Smith College where she majored in finance (which is not a major there).

That's funny r229. She seems like she would've been an art history major or something, and at a more traditionalist, less feminist school. Finance just seems wrong (even if it was a major there), too practical, too competitive with men, i.e. future husbands to take care of her.

I don't remember Samantha ever saying her mother was a drunk. She did say her mother was saddled with three kids at the same age Sam was thriving in NYC. Miranda had a tumultuous relationship with her mother. Charlotte's brother was hot. Carrie's dad went AWOL.

Nice fucking hat!

Carrie's hat looked like an old-fashioned ice pack.

[quote]Little is known about her early life, other than she comes from a working-class background and started working at a Dairy Queen selling Dilly bars at the age of 13 to earn some pocket money. In season 3, Samantha mentions she has at least 2 siblings, reflecting on how her mother "was saddled with 3 kids and a drunk husband" by her age.

R228, it looks much larger than 1700 sq feet. If the actual physical building in real life is only 1700, that doesn't mean that's what they're trying to project in the show. Are they even using the actual interior of the property they show from the outside?

R235 they rarely ever do interior shots on anything other than a soundstage

[quote] Carrie mentioned her father basically disappearing (so Daddy issues with Big).

Correct. But then when they did "The Carrie Diaries" Carrie and her previously unmentioned sister Dorrit were in CT being raised by their overprotective dad after their mom had died of cancer.

The Carrie Diaries was a huge piece of shit.

The actress who played Carrie in The Carrie Diaries was very pretty. I'm assuming she was in a disfiguring accident at some point.

Candace Bushnell was from CT, so it makes sense Carrie would be from there. Bushnell grew-up in a nicer than average suburb of Hartford--Italian and less wealthy part of an old WASP Hartford family (Bushnell).

I don't have a horse in this race.

That’s true, R235. Perhaps they intend it to be bigger than its real footprint. It looks about 4000 square feet (or more) on the show.

[quote]I don't have a horse in this race.

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Fucking moron.

R243 -- Matthew, is that you?

I really enjoy the ridiculous clothes. I live in a city where everyone just wears bland atheleisure clothes. I wish someone would wear something crazy.

Be the change you want to see r245.

R245 Im in CT and saw an adult man wearing a onesie with a printed bikini clad woman on the front and back (mostly saw the back as they were ahead of me in line). I will concede this was at a dispensary, but it was still an individual working a 'look'.

And jusht like that....

R244=Poo Shoes, desperately failing to deflect from her idiocy.

Seema is way too needy, and quite exhausting. She does not mesh with anyone on the show. Carrie has nothing in common with her, until she is ready to sell that oversized townhouse.

Just saw this and felt trolled. WTF. Is this from planet musk?

And Just Like That ... i smell a rat.

Rewatching the 2nd season. Hard to believe that Gloria Steinem would agree to appear in an episode with an oversized dick pic.

[quote] Charlotte is from CT and went to Smith College where she majored in finance (which is not a major there).

[quote] That's funny. She seems like she would've been an art history major or something, and at a more traditionalist, less feminist school. Finance just seems wrong (even if it was a major there), too practical, too competitive with men, i.e. future husbands to take care of her.

R229 R230 Charlotte did in fact major in art history and minored in finance. She says so in season 4 episode (7, Time and Punishment) when she's interviewing her gallerina replacement so she can be a stay at home non-mom wife for Trey.

"Majored in art history, minored in finance, same as me!"

Do we think SJP and Nixon realize how cringe this show is? Are they completely delusional? They seem savvy. And yet.

They are delusional.

Agree with R256. And they think they’re smarter than they are.

I’m pretty sure that SJP and Nixon would be aware of the correct use of “cringe”, R255.

SJP said in a new interview that she never watches the show and never watched SATC either. Maybe she should?

I think having Carrie harassed by the talking alarm was meant to make the apartment more relatable.

Dumb question which should have been asked 20 years ago: When Miranda married Steve, did Brady become Brady Brady or did he have to stay Brady Hobbs? Was this ever answered?

R260 that talking alarm shit is the same tired plot point that happened when she moved into that sun-blasted white loft for two minutes. There was some chime that kept going off that she couldn't figure out.

I thought the alarm (with the identifying code "Carrie and Aiden") constantly going off was supposed to be a warning to Carrie about her "relationship" with Aiden. After her attempted phone sex with Aiden flopped, the alarm started blaring, and she turned it off and starting writing again: "The woman wondered what she had gotten herself into."

I can see Carrie agreeing to the five year pause in the moment, but the next day, she should have dropped Aiden. A woman pushing 60, whose husband suddenly dropped dead, should know that waiting five years for someone (with no or limited contact!) is mind-numbingly stupid. And the blank postcards are more pathetic than romantic.

Rock continues to be a little asshole. "BELIEVE WOMEN!" "FAST FASHION!"

The wonderful Cheri Oteri is going to be in an episode this season. She will elevate this crap material just like she did with her MCM guest spot.

I watch because I am playing the game “Identify the NYC location”.

What medication is Brady Brady Hobbs taking?

The door alarm thing was stupid, especially when the secret password was revealed. I'm sure that even New Yorkers eventually turn off these things unless they're going to out overnight.