Met David Hogg last night

Wow.

Did you call him La Belle?

Surprised he’s tall. He gives off total beta / small man energy.

Verificatia of sizemeat?

r3 He's apparently about 6 ft 1 if Obamas google stats are right

I met David Hogg 3 times in Washington DC when I was there at the end of January, March and April of this year.

I was surprised David was tall; he doesn't look tall on TV. I told David "Wow, you are tall, you don't look this tall on cable".

He gave a good speech, but the mainstream DNC peoples don't like him.

His constant invective against Pete turned me off him for life, no thanks. And now he's begging for cash in WeHo, that's hilarious.

Very green... he's stumbled on his ego. Being a DNC officer and organizing to primary Dem incumbents was just fucking stupid. Rapidly turning into exactly the old farts he ostensibly thinks are the problem: "give me money" his operating principle. He may grow into something interesting, but he's been a real disappointment in the past 6 months or so...

Hogg is an existential threat to the old fossils at the DNC, most of whom personally knew Roosevelt as a boy. Teddy Roosevelt, that is.

R9 Existential threat, right. Dems have ALWAYS been more skilled at destroying each other than fighting and beating the Right.

I would sniff his no-no

What did he say about Mayor Pete?

He is an opportunistic snob who thinks he has all the answers.

[quote] “Ultimately, what we have to do here is figure out how to bring people back in and work towards the bigger goal of advancing the future of this country and helping young people, especially, get by so that they’re able to focus on their lives and, you know, getting with a young woman or something like that, instead of how are they gonna pay their rent, for example, or how are they working their two jobs,” Hogg explained.

THIS is a leader? We Dems are in a lot of trouble. You girls can have him.

Just to put a kind of cap on it, although Hogg's brand is to raise the flag of "the young are being screwed over", Scott Galloway (a Gen Xer) is much more compelling about the problem.

How did he get the name LaBelle?

How do you pronounce his last name? Hopefully not like the animal.

I agree with some of Hogg's ideas, alot of the Democrats dinosaurs needs to be retired (or DIE).

He didn't like my views on Bernie Sanders& the bernie bros, but I told Hogg with my client list I say what I want!!

I told Hogg Democrats are real good at destroying each other& Trans killed the last Presidental election.

When I was 25 years old, I thought I knew everything there was a need to know. I was proud of my confidence, which others took as arrogance.

Now in my 50s, I realized how stupid and naive I was, and if I could go back and time and meet my 25 year old self. I'd beat the shit out of me!

That being said, I think Hogg's heart is in the right place. I was highly impressed and very excited about him years ago. I can't say that's true at the moment.

He may not be the right guy, or at least not yet, but he's addressing the right question: why do so many young white straight men think the Democratic Party hates them and is just for other groups? I suspect a bunch of middle aged women and gay men and black men at the DNC aren't going to come up with good answers to that question, or good responses to it, so I'm hoping that people like David Hogg will keep trying and will remain a force in the party. For our own sakes.

His stand on Trans Candidates is a losing one. Always has been. Just ask Kamala. We are going to lose in 2028 if we embrace the Tranz issues that David wants us to.

If he is much better looking in person than in photos, that makes him an LA 6? New York 7?

R14 I understand where Hogg is coming from- young people should be able to enjoy their lives instead of worrying about working, et al-but that's the very problem in a nutshell. He wants people to understand that though their grandparents may have grown up during the Depression, lived through a war, and rebuild this country, you shouldn't be asked to give much more than a salute to the trans. His ideas are all about the individuals- Johnny wants to play video games, Jane wants to be a You Tube influencer. Being a good citizen, putting your needs aside to serve the betterment of your country, stopping from thinking about your need to be famous, and devoting your time to helping others rise up are all less important than self. What a generation- everything revolves around how they feel. They should be called the Oprah generation- the feeling generation. No wonder the military had to lower it demands for enlistment.

I don't think he's saying quite what you're saying r23. It's not that nobody should work or that work isn't necessary. It's this stupid, inane, dingbat notion that work is a goal in and of itself that is so tiresome and ridiculous. That everyone should look forward to a life of grinding work and misery, cause that's just how it is kids, and that was good enough for your Depression-era Grandparents, so fuck you for wanting more. That's what is so deeply fucked up about this life as misery, life as work, life as a hopeless grind, not even as some grim, and temporary, necessity, but actually as something to embrace. Nobody wants that, or should want that. And really nobody should settle for that, or vote for any party that wants to sell that idea.

And, yes, part of the idiocy is that everybody should be grateful for their shitty job, or two shitty jobs, or three shitty jobs, and dammit if you don't want to build your entire life around stupid, shitty jobs now and forever, it's just cause you don't get the grim joy of self-sacrifice. And weirdly, I think we are on the verge of having to think about what work is even for and what work is necessary and which is just bullshit and fuckery, in the age of AI. But instead, we as a society want to cling desperately to old and rather stupid ideals of life as work.

[quote]How did he get the name LaBelle?

He used to sing backup for Patti.

I think it's awesome the guy who has never gotten elected to office wants to tell Democrats how to get elected!! How many ELECTED OFFICIALS has David helped get into office? Is it zero? Results matter.

R11 = Cameron Kasky.

Glad to be Team Hogg

Hogg team

[quote]That everyone should look forward to a life of grinding work and misery, cause that's just how it is kids, and that was good enough for your Depression-era Grandparents, so fuck you for wanting more.

At the risk of being a literalist and a dullard, it would have been their GREAT-grandparents or GREAT-GREAT-grandparents who lived through the Great Depression (1929-1939). Not to make you feel old (though I know I do), but the Great Depression ended more than 85 years ago and these kids' grandparents are mostly in their sixties or early seventies (and some in their fifties). They were likely born when the Depression was already recorded in the annals of history.

Gen Z doesn't want to work. They want to tweet.

Hogg is in it for Hogg.

Gen Z will have to live in Trumpworld for the rest of their lives if they can't figure out the value of voting Democratic. And yet, they still feel they need to be wooed. Tragic..

[QUOTE]How do you pronounce his last name? Hopefully not like the animal.

I had a colleague with the same last name. He pronounced it with an "Oh" in the middle.

R26 kind of like a party running someone for president that was unable to ever win a primary, You can guess how that would end,

How has he made his living? Does he do the speaking fee thing? I don’t really understand his role in our politics. What’s he aiming for?

[quote]but the mainstream DNC peoples don't like him.

That's because he threatens them and their positions which they will not relinquish. It's something we're all going to have to discuss well before the mid-terms.

[quote]I had a colleague with the same last name. He pronounced it with an "Oh" in the middle.

I worked with a very fat woman with the same name who insisted it was “Hogue”. Everyone called her Big Hog as soon as she left the room.

Ok, David/OP

I like that he didn't smile for a decade.

He took his representation seriously.

He’s fun

[quote]I had a colleague with the same last name. He pronounced it with an "Oh" in the middle.

Well, of course!

R24- I respect your opinion. Gen Z is saying that work for thrill of working doesn't cut it, and that their great - great grandparents( R30 I would also say that the Depression ended in 1941) had it all wrong . To toil and sweat for a meaningless job is so post-war. Let other Gen Z around the world who don't have the same luxury as Americans do the sweatshop thing. But clinging to those ideas of work won two world wars, made us the strongest country in the world, and provided the ability of Gen Z to complain. You see this only in a world where you don't want, are fully feed, and have nothing to do all day but ponder your navel- I mean social media. Parents, grandparents, and others have gone so overboard with giving Gen Z everything that they have nothing to offer. They don't want to work( even at work they are lazy and attention seeking), they don't want to study( or else they would realize that Palestine has many problems that freeing it wouldn't solve), and they are often the first ones with opinions that ring shallow, and false. Live in Palestine, or Russia, or Cuba- I'll bet they will understand your purpose right away.

Jen Z is upset that they will work their entire lives and STILL not be able to afford a yacht.

Boomer here who has worked all my life and am STILL not able to afford a yacht.

I'll give the guy a break. He experienced something no one should ever experience and attempted to capitalize on that experience to make the world a better place. I mean this kindly, but he's young and foolish - we need let them grow over time as life experience occurs.

R43 A generation whose whole development was predicated on comparing their insides to others' outsides they see on social media. A warped kind of human that really have cheated. I have great empathy for them.

I bet he took human growth hormone. He was short and slightly built in high school.

r44, exactly

Just as I don't appreciate being stereotyped as a boomer, I won't stereotype Gen Z or millennials. I do think that Hogg does the party no favors by painting it as a gerontocracy and that's intentional. He wants to burn it to the ground to get his way.

It's worth pointing out that gifted politicians like Obama don't have to wait their turn. But they have something to offer other than youth.

Is his head really that big in person?

I saw a pic of him in a bathing suit somewhere and the boy is hung ! We really cant objectively define him because we are looking from a totally different view point . The world we grew up in is long gone and his is the new reality . So how can we say "he should do this or be that" ? I also think he needs to refine his style but he will as he gets older . I cant imagine being 21 in this shitty world with a horrid economy,insane politics and complete lack of any sense of unity .

He needs a sandwich

r11 💩🤮

R 50 -- His head is normal sized, but it looks big because he's so tall and almost preternaturally skinny. He referred to his thinness twice in his speech so it's on his mind.

Why are we supposed to look at this guy as a leader? What are his qualifications?

He could stand to lose a few pounds.

[quote]Why are we supposed to look at this guy as a leader? What are his qualifications?

None.

Long and lean and lithe and slender, the hog from Ipanema goes walking….