Cynthia Nixon said what she said

She was slightly pretty back then (so long as she hid her terrible teeth), but she's grown up to be such a crone. And she's not even 60.

SHUT the fuck up, ostrich.

OP / TF - no one cares

R3 But you do care because you commented. If you truly didn’t care you would have posted nothing at all.

I remember in the first movie Miranda was roaming around a lower east side neighborhood looking for a new apartment with Magda and Brady. Suddenly she says 'Look! White guy with baby. We want to go where he is' and she follows him to a, presumably, white part of the neighborhood. So much for diversity.

[quote] 'Certain Things Haven't Aged Well'

Like your face, bitch

She’s fucking insufferable. Take the HBO$ and 🤐

Bitch just count your money and enjoy Rojo Caliente's fiery snatch.

Nothing about Sex and the City will age worse than the Che plot line in And Just Like That.

Recently attended college graduation of trans son, Samuel Joseph Mozes, who goes by the name Seph.

ROJO CALIENTE!

From the article:

[quote] It was always very difficult being on a show that was so white. I always hated that.

Correct me if I’m wrong, because I don’t watch — but doesn’t The Gilded Age plot revolve around an exclusively white elite class? You know, sort of like the nobility of the actual gilded age?

I admire Kim Cattrall for turning down And Just Like That even though it would've been a hefty paycheck because she knew it would just be embarrassing and she had some dignity.

Insufferable pig. Is she still calling for more looting?

R13, Kim already appeared on the show.

[quote]she had some dignity

Left over from Porky's.

[quote] Correct me if I’m wrong, because I don’t watch — but doesn’t The Gilded Age plot revolve around an exclusively white elite class?

Some of the characters on the show are African-American elites, and are played by such well-known black actors as Denée Benton, Audra McDonald, John Douglas Thompson, Sullivan Jones, and, starting this season, LisaGay Hamilton, Jessica Frances Dukes, and Leslie Uggams.

I remember running into Willie, Cynthia and a couple of others in a falafel shop during a SATC shoot in Hell's Kitchen; everyone was chatty and normal, enjoying their lunch break, while Cynthia made a big deal of being on the phone with her agent.

Oy!

"we were told this is Candace Bushnell’s world and it's a very white world. 'I’m like, OK…,' ""

[quote]Nixon, who is married to wife Christine Marinoni, also said that "some of the trans stuff, some of the gay stuff was a little cringy to look at."

I was so worried she had left Rojo Caliente and remarried. LMAO I never knew Rojo’s real name

Kim got $1 million for a cameo that lasted barely over a minute, AND she didn't have to appear with those three hags. I'd call that pretty smart.

Kim for the win 🥇💕💕

[quote]Certain Things Haven't Aged Well

And you're Exhibit A, Cynth.

She's right, but I'd also like to ask...how many of us white posters here have a circle of friends that is truly diverse? Mine is ethnically diverse but not racially diverse. I can count on one hand the number of close friends who are Black. .

The series also played into the trope of the gay best friend..

[quote]It was always very difficult being on a show that was so white. I always hated that.

Good Lord, woman! Shut the fuck up!

She’s always been insufferable-a whinging, people-pleasing idiot who fancies herself an intellectual when she’s in fact quite stupid. It seems she’s gotten the face she deserves. She looks like she’s 80.

R24 It’s not even that.

Since the 2010s, there’s been a new wave of critique aimed at those white 90s shows that lacks historical context and erases the legacy of black TV in the 90s.

Lots of black TV shows in the 90s even out performed white TV shows. Growing up in the 90s I never noticed it. I never thought why is “Friends” so white. There were so many black sitcoms.

And as far as Latino, they watched Telemundo and Spanish language shows.

[quote]R13 I admire Kim Cattrall for turning down “And Just Like That” even though it would've been a hefty paycheck because she knew it would just be embarrassing and she had some dignity.

She acknowledged that she’s older than those 3 costars. She has less time on this planet, and she didn’t want to spend it in that world, with those people.

That’s the luxury of having money. You can make decisions that please you.

Every time Cynthia says "As the mother of Jewish children" it's as if she's asking for recognition and praise that she let a dirty Jew inseminate her.

Cynthia Nixon: "It was always very difficult being on a show that was so white. I always hated that."

Patti LuPone, start of AJLT S3: Audra McDonald is NOT a frienDDDD, Kecia Lewis is not a veteran actress, and HELL'S KITCHEN is TOO FUCKING LOUD!

^star - not start^

Not in all cases, but in many instances, friend groups tend to resemble one another. There may be one person, not like the others, sprinkled in here or there, but for the most part, it's the way people are wired, and it doesn't mean anyone is necessarily racist or prejudiced - it's just the way the group evolved.

Nixon is entitled to her feelings on the matter, but I don't believe her. No one was thinking that something was "too white" like this in the 90s or early 2000s. Could shows like SATC and Friends have gone further to make NYC seem more like NYC? Sure. They didn't, and no one blinked an eye back then. Nixon was happy for the work.

Quite frankly, I think the world of SATC and Friends was more true to life than those shows with friend groups of 2 white people, 1 Asian, 1 black person, and 1 Hispanic person.

[quote]Quite frankly, I think the world of SATC and Friends was more true to life than those shows with friend groups of 2 white people, 1 Asian, 1 black person, and 1 Hispanic person.

Absolutely. Even in 2025 white people in NYC tend to have friend groups that are mostly white. Just go to any restaurant, bar etc.

Sex And The City had trannies before Ru Paul had a drag race.

That is progressive.

Bushnell was from the not-so-well-off side of a very old money Connecticut family, so it did reflect her sensibility.

Did Cynthia’s teeth rot out from eating Temple Grandins pussy?

She's the worst thing about "And Just Like That", and that's saying a lot. Her tiresome, narcissistic, self-righteous insistence on replacing a character (Miranda) with a rose-colored facsimile of her ultrawoke carpet-munching self has destroyed any memory of what was minimally appealing about her presence in SATC.

Kim Cattrall was right to avoid that mess.

Kim Cattrall knew that the time had passed and they were too old, she made the right decision.

Kim did make the right decision.

But for SJP and KD once the series settled they did great work with Carrie and Charlotte. Carrie's grieving and starting again as a single woman at her was done very well and her friendship with Seema / Sarita Choudhury was done very well. And Charlotte's new role as mother/wife - something she had always wanted - but then wanting more was pitched well.

But Miranda was a mess, the relationship with Che Diaz was a mess, trying to establish a link with the black academic was a mess, and her new career was a mess. It looked like Cynthia dictated how Miranda developed based on herself.

[quote]Since the 2010s, there’s been a new wave of critique aimed at those white 90s shows that lacks historical context and erases the legacy of black TV in the 90s.

[quote]Lots of black TV shows in the 90s even out performed white TV shows.

R27 Yeah, progressives try to rewrite history and make it seem like there were only white TV shows until fairly recently. In fact, there were many long-running black shows in the '80s and '90s.

'80s: "THE JEFFERSONS" (1975-1985), "DIFF'RENT STROKES" (1978-1986), "BENSON" (1979-1986), "GIMME A BREAK!" (1981-1987), "WEBSTER" (1983-1989), "THE COSBY SHOW" (1984-1992), "227" (1985-1990), "AMEN" (1986-1991), "A DIFFERENT WORLD" (1987-1993), "FAMILY MATTERS" (1989-1998).

'90s: "IN LIVING COLOR" (1990-1994), "THE FRESH PRINCE OF BEL-AIR" (1990-1996), "MARTIN" (1992-1997), "HANGIN' WITH MR. COOPER" (1992-1997), "LIVING SINGLE" (1993-1998), "SISTER SISTER" (1994-1999), "THE WAYANS BROS." (1995-1999), "THE PARENT 'HOOD" (1995-1999), "IN THE HOUSE" (1995-1999), "KENAN & KEL" (1996-2000), "MALCOM & EDDIE" (1996-2000), "MOESHA" (1996-2001), "THE JAMIE FOXX SHOW" (1996-2001), "THE STEVE HARVEY SHOW" (1996-2002).

Keep in mind, in those days there were around 24 episodes per season, so a 5-season show would produce 120 episodes.

Not bad for 13% of the population.

Also, THE COSBY SHOW was the #1 show in America for 5 consecutive seasons.

The only other show to achieve that feat was ALL IN THE FAMILY in the '70s.

[quote] She’s always been insufferable-a whinging, people-pleasing idiot who fancies herself an intellectual when she’s in fact quite stupid.

I've actually met her a few times though mutual friends. She actually _is_ quite intelligent, and she went to Hunter College High School, which is a public high school you have to apply to get into, and so the smartest kids in NYC who are not rich go there or to Stuyvesant, another application-only public school. Many of the kids wind up being academics, and they regularly place multiple students a year at the Ivies--Lin-Manuel Miranda, who also went there (long after Nixon did), has said he felt like a failure there his senior year because the best college he could get into was Wesleyan, which his friends going to Harvard and Yale and Princeton looked down upon.

Nixon went to Barnard mostly because she had started acting in Manhattan's professional theater when she was younger and she wanted to continue doing so (and in fact her freshman year she was in The Real Thing on Broadway). She probably could have gone on to become an academic (as also could have Jodie Foster), but she decided to stick to the acting world and made a fortune. But she has always remained friends with leftist intellectuals, and she has adopted many of her their beliefs and attitudes, and their unfortunate need to posture and proclaim. She is still friends with many middle-class academics, but because she's quite rich now her posturing comes across as disingenuous--she seems like a limousine leftist (or what I once heard described as "a Neiman-Marxist").

[quote]"It was always very difficult being on a show that was so white. I always hated that."

As R42 said, posturing is *exactly* what this is. She's trying to rewrite history based on the sensibilities of 2025. Sure Cynthia, you were the only cast member who was woke.

[quote]Also, THE COSBY SHOW was the #1 show in America for 5 consecutive seasons.

I feel like celebrating! Here, have a drink.

Yup, [italic]everybody[/italic] watched Cosby back in the day. Hell, most kids (not me -- I was too old) watched Fat Albert long before that.

You could have knocked me over with a feather when all that stuff came out about him. People really did believe he was the dad from the show!

[quote]Every time Cynthia says "As the mother of Jewish children" it's as if she's asking for recognition and praise...

Actually, Judaism is a matrilineal religion/society, so if your mother isn't Jewish, neither are you, really. People are mostly too polite to mention it, but I'm not.

Cynthia Nixon is insufferable and if you saw her onstage with Kathleen Turner and Jude Law in INDISCRETIONS you'd have seen that she's always been a terrible actress.

[quote]Yup, everybody watched Cosby back in the day.

During my freshman year in college, we'd all cram ourselves into the TV room on Thursday nights to watch Cosby. It was the one thing that united all the residents - not sports, not studying, only Cosby.

UPN - United Paramount Network is known in the industry as "U People's Network".... programming aimed at Blacks.

Cynthia's wearing a tie in photo. Only her Butch wife should be wearing it.

R48 "The Jeffersons" (CBS), "Diff'rent Strokes" (NBC, ABC), "Benson" (ABC), "Gimme a Break!" (NBC), "Webster" (ABC), "The Cosby Show" (NBC), "227" (NBC), "Amen" (NBC), "A Different World" (NBC), "Family Matters" (ABC, CBS), "In Living Color" (Fox), "The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air" (NBC), "Martin" (Fox), "Hangin' with Mr. Cooper" (ABC), "Living Single" (FOX) all aired on network TV and were watched by many whites.

[quote]r46 Cynthia Nixon is insufferable and if you saw her onstage with Kathleen Turner and Jude Law in INDISCRETIONS you'd have seen that she's always been a terrible actress.

I saw this and remember being very bored. It had such a showy cast and yet I recall NOTHING about the plot. It had the feeling of one of those plays where the actors are given no furniture, but are just pacing around a limbo, posing.

I believe it had a rather elaborate set… it just all felt so ungrounded and free floating.

I did find this bitchy snippet of a review:

[quote][italic]A crazy quilt of Freudian fantasy, over-the-top melodrama and black comedy, “Indiscretions” veers giddily from one extreme to another: A constant disorientation is a big part of its thrill. [bold]If only Kathleen Turner weren’t giving a performance of surpassing awfulness, “Indiscretions” would almost certainly qualify as the season’s most astonishing production.[/bold]

^^

[quote] It had the feeling of one of those plays where the actors are given no furniture, but are just pacing around a limbo, posing.

IN limbo : (