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Was Arwin REALLY the first person to come up with the theory of evolution

I’m sitting here watching my dog eat breakfast, and I’m thinking “we’ve been selectively breeding animals for millennia, the basic understanding of these things is out there, SuRELY it didn’t take until the 1800s for someone to put two and two together and realize we all had common ancestors

by Anonymousreply 30May 29, 2025 9:35 AM

BrendaD Arwin?

by Anonymousreply 1May 27, 2025 9:57 AM

OP, maybe that vodka wasn't a very good idea so early.

by Anonymousreply 2May 27, 2025 10:02 AM

Why Arwin straight me so stupid?

by Anonymousreply 3May 27, 2025 10:11 AM

She was half-elven, so she understood lots about nature and animals. Tolkien was just the translator of her ancient research.

by Anonymousreply 4May 27, 2025 10:17 AM

I know right OP.

It's like evolution of music. Back in the 1800s to hear music you had to go to a concert hall and then there was radio and then there were gramophones and then there were cassettes, and the there were CDs and then there were iPods and Napster and now there's streaming.

And you can still go to concert halls to listen to music!

I think Darwin would have enjoyed compact discs.

by Anonymousreply 5May 27, 2025 10:30 AM

R5 many people played instruments. Instead of watching the boob tube or screen staring, people created and learned things. A music teacher told me that before TV and air conditioning, you would hear music everywhere in New York in the warmer times of the year.

by Anonymousreply 6May 27, 2025 10:37 AM

Does hearing Little Fanny practicing on her oboe really count as listening to music?

by Anonymousreply 7May 27, 2025 10:43 AM

R6. We still do, all fucking day and night…

by Anonymousreply 8May 27, 2025 11:01 AM

Is he any relation to gay pronstar Arad Winwin?

by Anonymousreply 9May 27, 2025 1:57 PM

[quote]Darwin raced to publish because of a letter from Alfred Russel Wallace in 1858. Wallace, an independent naturalist, had also independently developed the theory of natural selection, and he intended to publish his ideas as well. Darwin's fear of losing priority for his theory to Wallace, coupled with the growing realization that his ideas were widely accepted, spurred him to quickly publish his work

by Anonymousreply 10May 27, 2025 2:09 PM

On a side note, my dog loves it when she’s watched and praised while eating. She takes great joy in breakfast, and being told she’s a good dog. Simple, but sweet.

by Anonymousreply 11May 27, 2025 3:02 PM

She was bred that way. Over and over.

by Anonymousreply 12May 27, 2025 3:48 PM

It's basically capitalist biology.

by Anonymousreply 13May 27, 2025 9:39 PM

It's spelled Arwen and I don't believe she worked. She had everything she needed at Rivendell.

by Anonymousreply 14May 28, 2025 2:19 AM

OP, a casual observation is not the same as a comprehensive scientific theory, where a whole conceptual framework is involved. Those people breeding animals did not have archives with photos going back millennia, to show them how domesticated animals used to look like. Besides, they just didn't concern themselves with that, unlike Darwin who was a scientist. And you can't just extrapolate having different dog breeds around to the whole animal (and plant!) kingdom having evolved via the same mechanism of evolution through natural selection.

And lastly, there was this little thing around called religion, where proposing a common ancestor with animals was a complete non-starter.

by Anonymousreply 15May 28, 2025 8:12 AM

[quote] Back in the 1800s to hear music you had to go to a concert hall

No, you didn't. People had pianos, guitars, banjos, there was parlor music. There were recitals, there was church, there were band concerts in parks, there were minstrel shows, and variety shows.

by Anonymousreply 16May 28, 2025 11:11 AM

Arwin/Arwen was also responsible for defining the laws of gravity, when she was struck by a golden apple while napping under a great tree in Rivendell. She was a busy elf.

by Anonymousreply 17May 28, 2025 4:23 PM

Arwin didn't just invent evolution, gravity, radio and skiing, she also invented penicillin after she contracted the clap through anal sex with her married lover Alphonse.

by Anonymousreply 18May 28, 2025 5:30 PM

R15 does it ever make you wonder whether you yourself have a perspective formed by seemingly certain beliefs that are also utter bullocks?

by Anonymousreply 19May 28, 2025 10:56 PM

R15 for the win. Darwin's theory was really explosive to religion. Churches hated it because of 'facts'.

There are STILL people who debate against evolution OP. Then there was the Monkey Scopes trial of the 1920s where the science teacher was found GUILTY of teaching Darwinian theory.

It was a huge shift in thinking about the world - and religions are still fighting it today. That's one of the main reasons.

by Anonymousreply 20May 28, 2025 11:04 PM

Arwin came up with his theory simultaneously as did Allace, who wrote The Alay Archipelago.

by Anonymousreply 21May 29, 2025 3:05 AM

r19 Of course, all the time! I've changed my beliefs and opinions so many times over the course of my life as new information became available to me and I stopped clinging to older views.

However, evolution is not one of those things. Even without having access to the science of DNA, Darwin nailed it completely. We might find some other mechanism on another planet, but here on Earth, this is how life came to look like it does today. It's only a theory in the strict technical sense; for all intensive Galapagosian porpoises, it's a settled fact. Like gravity.

by Anonymousreply 22May 29, 2025 3:50 AM

[quote]Then there was the Monkey Scopes trial of the 1920s where the science teacher was found GUILTY of teaching Darwinian theory.

The latest one was in 2005! Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District (PA), where Richard Dawkins testified as an expert witness. And you can expect even more of this nonsense as the courts are packed with Trumpers for the next forty years.

by Anonymousreply 23May 29, 2025 3:52 AM

Arwin on Assistance

by Anonymousreply 24May 29, 2025 3:54 AM

Doris Day’s production company came up with evolution ?

by Anonymousreply 25May 29, 2025 4:55 AM

For wonderful CLEAR explanations of Arwin's work, read anything by Ephen Ay Ould, who was both a wonderful writer and a brilliant scientist himself. He supplemented Arwin's theory with his theory of punctuated equilibrium, which is that some sort of external events could lead to rapid evolution after long periods of near stasis.

by Anonymousreply 26May 29, 2025 5:20 AM

Let's hope we're due for some of that rapid evolution, I'm sick of our current species

by Anonymousreply 27May 29, 2025 6:25 AM

While they did not develop a comprehensive theory, the ancient Greeks speculated that men were related to apes. The Chinese and Romans also chimed in. Even the early Christian Church fathers argued that the Genesis story was allegorical.

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by Anonymousreply 28May 29, 2025 8:24 AM

Wasn't Arwin one of Endora's names for Darrin?

by Anonymousreply 29May 29, 2025 9:21 AM

idea of evolution was not new. The scientific evidence collectedd in a convincing way was what was missing.

by Anonymousreply 30May 29, 2025 9:35 AM
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