Herbert Hoover

Apparently he had one of the best wine collections on the east coast.

He was a reclusive out of touch politician millionaire who did not like socializing. He was more like Coolidge than Harding.

His favorite book of all time was David Copperfield.

He WAS Herbert Hoover!

Mixed legacy...managed US war relief well during WWI, but the stain on him was the mismanagement of the response to the Great Depression. Failed to understand its magnitude. Hoovervilles remain his legacy.

I believe he's become a darling of the rightwing these days.

He had a great ass, but I guess he didn't live forever.

"Ladies and Gentlemen, the President of the United States, ... Hoobert Heever."

Let's give thanks...

Herbert Hoover and Winston Churchill were both born in 1874 and died in 1964.

Hoover died October 20, 1964

Kamala Harris was born on October 20, 1964

Churchill died Jan. 24, 1965, R9.

R11 close enough, Hoover died in late 1964. The point being their lives were almost identical.

Failure. Fucked it up when we really needed a president not to fuck it up.

Yes, a failure as president, but a very distinguished pre- & post- (after April 1945) presidency.

I have read some articles that the Depression would have ended sooner under Hoover rather than Roosevelt

And those would have been fallacies

Presidents do not ascend into office.

He lived in Australia, China, and Edwardian London

FDR's place in history isn't predicated on his role ending the Depression - he didn't - but for his leadership in winning WWII.

Fag!

Unfortunately Hoover embraced the shitty ideal that capitalism is not just a tool, it's God's Own Plan for the world. That capitalism can never fail, it can only be failed. Sadly, it remains the religion of far too many to this day.

[quote] FDR's place in history isn't predicated on his role ending the Depression - he didn't - but for his leadership in winning WWII.

You can certainly debate the effectiveness of FDR’s measures in ending the Great Depression, but the policies themselves and the change in the government’s role that they implied are a huge reason why he is remembered.

Right, “self made” business types usually are of that ilk

His wife Lou was a remarkable woman--a scholar, a published translator from the Latin, an athlete, and a women's rights activist. She was the first woman to graduate Stanford with a degree in geology.

He sucked.

[quote] FDR's place in history isn't predicated on his role ending the Depression - he didn't - but for his leadership in winning WWII.

Says who? Without FDR, there would have been no New Deal, which alleviated misery for millions-- even if it was the start of WWII that brought the US out of the Depression.

FDR’s policies contributed to huge GDP growth and plummeting unemployment.

Mister, we could use a man like Herbert Hoover again.

I made it through Herbert and J. Edgar Hoover. Gee -- that was fun-and-a-half. When you've made it through Herbert and J. Edgar Hoover, everything else is a laugh!

No, Lisa -- HOOTERVILLE, not Hooverville.

Hoover stayed involved in Republican politics for years after losing the election to FDR. He really did become very conversative over the years.

During the 1964 convention, according the to Wiki article of the convention, "Although former President Dwight Eisenhower only reluctantly supported Goldwater after he won the nomination, former President Herbert Hoover gave him enthusiastic endorsement."

I've always thought it interesting that decades after the Depression, Hoover was still involved.

Will Trump's tariff policies usher in Trumpvilles?

That is interesting r31. Hoovernomics really should've been rejected, but the dream remains: just give the rich more money and eventually all will be well. Ignore any hiccups along the way, and just keep feeding the rich.

He is still incredibly relevant today -- we are living during the era of Hoovervilles popping up all over major cities again!

Most of his evenings were spent having elegant 12 course dinners with fine wine followed by reading and Brandy in the residence.

R24 Lou was also an avid horseback rider and spoke Mandarin fluently.

[quote] spoke Mandarin fluently.

Like Chambo?

He spent his last many years living at his apartment at the Waldorf Astoria.

[quote] Most of his evenings were spent having elegant 12 course dinners with fine wine followed by reading and Brandy in the residence.

She was a little young for him.

R39 funny, but Lou would kick her ass

Lou really was an amazing woman.

She regularly received requests for assistance from citizens who were struggling. She referred each one to a local charity. Whenever she was unable to find a charity or a donor that could help, she sent her own money. She refused to publicize or draw attention to her charitable work and she often sent the money anonymously through a proxy so her name would not be associated with it.

After her death, her family found hundreds of checks she had received to repay her for her charity but which she had declined to cash.

He spent the last 20 years of his life a bachelor.

Widower*

I thought the song about him was the best one in Annie, and don't know why it was taken out in [many? all?] later productions.

The Hoover-FDR relationship was among the worst of bookend presidencies.

"When you been through Herbert and J. Edgar Hoover anything else is a laugh."

He was a Republican when that meant small limited government

He has a smart and pretty great granddaughter. I love Margaret Hoover on Firing Line.

I prefer a Kirby.

Which type of vacuum cleaners do all of you have?

r46 We know.

Lou was the first First Lady to grad college

Hoover wasn't his real name, but a nickname because as a young - oh, wait. That was me.

He was one Stanford’s earliest graduates. ‘enuf said…

I wish we had Republicans like Hoover

R41

SHE should have been president.