Say it ain’t so, Joe! 😔

FUCK

I think the medical term for that is goner.

Trump will outlive us all

sad. yet, he had a long run.

He’ll be gone by the end of the year.

FUCK EVERYTHING

At least he will die while he's lucid for a time every day. I mean its dignified in away.

I guess he really didn't know his ass from his elbow.

If he dies before 2028 he will be the political shitstorm who keeps on shitting. We tried to tell you motherfucking narcissists. He better not die before January 29. He better not.

Are we sure this isn't a fucked-up marketing strategy to sell more copies of Jake Tapper's new book?

All I can think of now is the way the Media has been pounding on him and bullying him All through 2024, and lying about the "bad" economy. I hate Jak Tapper more than ever.

R9 he will die in 2025. wtf are you going on about?

“Aggressive” sounds . . . ominous.

This should have been a poll. You were late.

Sieg heil

Did he not get frequent medical checks while in the White House? It seems like they would have caught it early. Was he avoiding checkups to avoid the evaluation of his significant decline in mental acuity?

Gee what a coincidence this comes out two days before Fake Jake’s tell all book. Ploy to garner sympathy?

Jesus, the hits keep coming. Does aggressive mean that it progressed so fast it couldn't be detected with regular checkups? To metastisize to the bones...

When cancer spreads to the bones it's just a matter of time.

If it's aggressive, it could have (likely?) started recently and spread quickly. Hence aggressive.

Came out in favor of gay marriage before Obama did.

Wishing the best for Joe!

Poor Joe. I've always been his biggest defender. Yes, he should not have run (or attempted to run) for that second term. He'll never live that down.

But he still did damn good things during his four years.

He's also lived quite a life and I hope the press will stop shitting on him so, well aggressively, from here on out.

R22 Oh gurl

R1: “FUCK”

Not anymore.

R16, not to be a cunt - well, yes, to be a cunt, but a cunt with mission - but this thread started ~ 20 minutes ago and your little poll started ~ ten minutes ago so there's no Mein involved, except Ihr trauriges bedürfnis zu sagen, bitte verwenden sie den thread, der mir gehört.

From the NYT:

[quote] “While this represents a more aggressive form of the disease, the cancer appears to be hormone-sensitive which allows for effective management,” the spokesman said in a statement. “The president and his family are reviewing treatment options with his physicians.”

Before Carter died the last two Democratic presidents to die were Harry Truman &, less than 4 weeks later, LBJ. When Democratic presidents die, they die in rapid succession.

If Barack Obama pushed the younger version of Biden in R22’s video to run for president in 2016, we never would’ve had Trump in the White House. VP Biden would’ve easily won that election.

Still Godspeed Uncle Joe. Your family is at fault more than you.

[quote]He'll never live that down.

Oh, honey... could have used an edit there.

Joe Biden’s entire presidency was about revenge for not being Obama’s de facto successor. The mid-Atlantic Frank Underwood.

[quote] If Barack Obama pushed the younger version of Biden in [R22]’s video to run for president in 2016, we never would’ve had Trump in the White House.

Barack Obama doesn't give a fuck about the Democratic party. When are you going to get that?

This will take the starch out of Tapper's book tour. No one is going to want to beat up on a dying man.

With a normal, honorable, president, Biden's (looming) death would be enough to stop the succeeding president from trashing his predecessor on a daily basis. But we don't have such a president.

RIP..

Can I have his stuff?

It’s in his bones. Gone by Christmas.

R33 When are you going to snapped back to reality. Obama along with Clooney tried to ward us of the uphill battle we were in.

I suspect this may make Hunter relapse. Sad.

So young.

No way Trump shows his face at the funeral

Well with this news, clearly I’m the only choice for 2028!

Now he can be with his favorite son

I know Joe, the devout Catholic, believes he will be reunited with his young daughter & Hunter. I hope so.

How often are you supposed to get your prostate checked??

Every year?

Shit. If it has already spread to his bones, it does not look good.

[QUOTE] This will take the starch out of Tapper's book tour. No one is going to want to beat up on a dying man.

I wonder how that sanctimonious asshole Jake Tapper feels about himself right now. The stress from his book and having to deal with the fallout probably helped bring the cancer back into Joe’s body.

We who live with one foot in a camp cell and the other on a banana peel under the Shitler administration should STFU regarding what President Biden did or did not do during his final year in office.

This is neither the time nor place for your apathy.

R9 mate he's not making 2026, never mind 2028

[quote]Before Carter died the last two Democratic presidents to die were Harry Truman &, less than 4 weeks later, LBJ. When Democratic presidents die, they die in rapid succession.

Bill Clinton could be soon as well. He’s aged rapidly and has a history of heart disease.

Is it multiple myeloma? Bone marrow?

But I already bought a ticket, R34

Verificatia of sizemeat?

My mother had a scan and the jackass running it said “how does it feel when you’re walking? Painful?” She said”fine…?” But I knew he saw the cancer had moved to her bones. She was gone 11 days later.

[quote]Is it multiple myeloma? Bone marrow?

My sister died of that at 55. Scary disease.

R48 or maybe the guilt is too much to bear. He didn’t recognize George fkin Clooney 6 months before the election. Get the fuck outta here. Fucking traitors.

[bold]It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us -- that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion -- that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain -- that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom -- and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.[/bold]

Beau, not Hunter!

Can we still hurl eggs at Jill for insisting he run again? Fuck you, Jill!

Jill Biden is a fucking CUNT. This current forest fire is SOLELY her responsibility.

[quote] No way Trump shows his face at the funeral

I think he will. The better question is whether he'll reach out to Joe before he dies.

That fucking Doctor Jill didn’t even recognize the signs of stage 4 cancer??

Oh dear. 😟 Poor Joe. At least there's morphine; bone cancer is excruciating. Has Delaware legalized euthanasia?

Honey, if she couldn’t recognize dementia….

Heaven forbid, R62!!

He'll kill Joe just as surely as JD killed the Pope.

I've got a needle biopsy next month. Shit.

[quote] Before Carter died the last two Democratic presidents to die were Harry Truman &, less than 4 weeks later, LBJ. When Democratic presidents die, they die in rapid succession.

So this happened just once before (and when it did, it was more than fifty years ago)... and you're saying this somehow constitutes a pattern?

Post-funeral, I wonder if the Widow Biden will now feel free to write the bitchiest, score settling memoir in the history of bitchy score settling memoirs? I don't think she's got Joe's sentimental streak, she'll need the money, and, if we're being honest, the whole Biden clan is basically ready for a Scranton street brawl on a moment's notice.

[quote]I know Joe, the devout Catholic, believes he will be reunited with his young daughter & Hunter. I hope so.

Fucking hell.

He doesn’t have bone cancer. He has prostate cancer which has metastasized to the bone. Lots of cancers (breast, kidney, skin, lung) can spread to the bones.

[quote] That fucking Doctor Jill didn’t even recognize the signs of stage 4 cancer??

She has an Ed.D from the University of Delaware, not an M.D.

Is the casket dance choreography on the Youtube? I sense a real show coming.

Damn. That sucks

Dammit

What is he doing about it? Chemo?

Well, fuck. Not even a good retirement in the cards, eh? That's a hell of a way to exit the scene. I don't feel sorry for anyone in that family, but this is shitty news.

It is sad. He totally fucked up in the end, but as presidents go he did a lot of good and his heart was big, the sentimental old Irish blowhard.

When I say bitchy, what I mean is no holds barred honest. Which in this case will probably come across a really bitchy. I always had the impression the Bidens nursed a lot of grudges in their insular, clannish world. She has nothing to lose by laying out what she knows and how she felt about it. Take the money and run, Jill, and burn the place down.

This is disheartening news, yet brings hope.

The timing is a mitzvah in that perhaps President Biden's dis-ease will give Pope Leo cause to visit him and, while here, do a bit of White House cleaning.

May President Biden continue his journey in full and perfect health. The attitude is gratitude.

[quote]Well, fuck. Not even a good retirement in the cards, eh? That's a hell of a way to exit the scene. I don't feel sorry for anyone in that family, but this is shitty news.

This is why people should retire before they’re in their fucking 80s.

R72 She’s a lovely cunt. I thank her everyday for my 2nd presidency.

Joe is probably well hung, have you seen Hunter?

[quote] I don't feel sorry for anyone in that family,

What did his first wife Neilia and his little daughter Naomi ever do to you???

R48, Tapper has no feelings. He’s a narcissistic asshole, with sociopathic features.

Don’t bury him yet. It seems like they can treat it. Good luck Joe.

It’s time for hospice.

[quote]No way Trump shows his face at the funeral

Are you being sarcastic? Orange Shidpants is so attention-hungry he'll go to anyone's memorial service just to be seen.

Somebody needs to slip him a poisoned Big Mac at the service. Thorium in the fires maybe?

According to Jill’s ex husband, Joe was clapping them phd cheeks while he and Jill were still married.

Do not dwell on the outcome of your scheduled procedure, R67; instead focus on giving thanks for your full and perfect health.

Stay well.

[QUOTE]No way Trump shows his face at the funeral

After the initial "Oh, no!" and a little disbelief ("He has access to the best healthcare available. How can this happen?"), my next thoughts was about the state funeral.

I cannot imagine Trump being able to sit through the heartfelt eulogies and praise Biden will inevitably receive. But at the same time, he'll want to be where the action and the cameras are. If other heads of state attend and he doesn't, it'll look really, really bad. What a conundrum. And, of course, there's the wild card -- what if the family doesn't invite the sitting POTUS? I suppose it's within their right. And what a slap it would be for Trump.

My other question is whether he'll be petty and order flags not be lowered at all or for less than the usual amount of time. I suspect the whole affair will be a "How low can he go?" bonanza.

Some of the comments from MAGA on social media are disgusting. But then, what's new?

[quote]Don’t bury him yet. It seems like they can treat it. Good luck Joe.

When cancer spreads to the bones it's game over.

R67, I pray all goes well for you. Love you!

Other heads of state won't attend. They are likely to be represented. Heads of state would only attend I think if he was also the present head of state.

[QUOTE] Some of the comments from MAGA on social media are disgusting. But then, what's new?

The comments here aren’t much better. DLers are already planning out his funeral.

R67, if it isn't the best news, remember: many, perhaps most, prostate cancers are slow growing, non-aggressive cancers. Most men with prostate cancer live long lives and die of something else. This is one of those instance where hoping for the best is justified and realistic. Stay as cool as you can, there's a good basis to. xo

We did it at length for the Queen, R86, surely Biden deserves as much?

Sorry, R98 for R96.

“While this represents a more aggressive form of the disease, the cancer appears to be hormone-sensitive which allows for effective management.”

Hmm

Shameful, isn't it, R96. The Ignore Ward will reach full capacity today.

R96 --Are you saying there's no difference between speculating about the inevitable course of things and how a funeral may unfold and MAGAt's hateful SM commentary? Please explain.

Any statements so far from former presidents, vice presidents, governors, or Kamala?

Best wishes, R67. Prostate cancer usually has a good prognosis.

R87 is posting from 2022.

R67, I am in remission from prostate cancer. Found early, most can be cared for. All up it's been about 18 months from diagnosis to feeling 100 percent. Don't fret.

Um, not a thing, R84. They died before I was born..?

Maybe reread my comment. WTF. Irrelevant, much?

A Gleason score of 9, classified as Grade Group 5, indicates that the prostate cancer is high-grade and likely to grow and spread quickly. This suggests a more aggressive form of cancer, which may require prompt and intensive treatment.

Now he can be reunited with his first wife Neila.

Also, R67, I'd take some heart in when they scheduled you. If it's next month, they're not panicking. Another basis to stay cool. xo

While I adore the apologists and Orphan Annies on this thread, he’s outta here. Peace out, asshole.

[quote]My other question is whether he'll be petty and order flags not be lowered at all or for less than the usual amount of time. I suspect the whole affair will be a "How low can he go?" bonanza.

Oh, no doubt; but even if he does, I'd stand along the side of the road as Joe's coffin goes by as a sign of respect, regardless of what Dear Leader does.

All of this is sad, but in some ways in seems a mercy that his life will be over & his pain with it. It seems inevitable that he would'n't live much longer after leaving the office. And then Hunter will OD

Wherever Obama is, he better be taking care of himself! I'd lose my shit if something happens to him

Why oh why couldn’t it have been Dump? Why does evil flourish??

Right back at ya, cunt @R111.

Looking in the mirror r111? It’s an ugly view.

Fuck this is shitty news. I cried tears the day Joe and Jill took off from the White House and Capitol for the last time, knowing the motherfucker piece of shit cretin we are stuck with four years, and now this. It sounds as if it’s going to take a miracle to save him. It’s remote, but where’s the life there’s hope. He will always be remembered for restoring this country back after covid and bringing back class and dignity to the presidency again, albeit for only four years. Thoughts and prayers Joe.

[quote] No way Trump shows his face at the funeral

Will MAGAts stand for him going to the funeral of the man who "stole" the election from him?

It's aggressive and spread to the bones, which normally is very bad. Yet as I quoted earlier, they also say, "the cancer appears to be hormone-sensitive which allows for effective management". It sounds like there are some tough decisions the family will have to make based on probabilities. If Biden were in better overall shape, there would probably be no question of trying to fight it even at this point. It's harder when he's already in bad mental shape.

R111 here .

How WILL I recover from the devastation of R114 and R115 zingers?

The average DLer is never happier than when planning a funeral other than their own.

King Charles and the Princess of Wales have let them down - hopefully Joe can step up.

I’m a lifelong Democrat of a multi-generational family of Dems and was a Biden supporter, but I swear, everything having to do with Biden is like Shakespearean or a Greek tragedy.

All the heartbreak and loss in his personal life. Awful and tremendously sad. In politics, heart in the right place but his verbal gaffes often stole the attention.

Ran for President three times. Should have run in 2016 but Obama wouldn’t directly endorse him outright and he didn’t want to compete with Hillary and the Clinton machine. The official story was he was still grieving the loss of Beau the prior year. Surely a huge loss, but no one with any sense is buying that b-s.

Ran in 2020, declared almost uncomfortably late in that primary, and was probably elected only because of Trump’s abhorrent handling of the pandemic and 1m+ American fatalities. Enacts good policies and legislation in office, but also appoints spineless Merrick Garland to DOJ who waited too long to get off his ass and make prosecuting Trump a priority. And, here we are.

Nothing Biden has done in his 50+ year career will matter in the end. His defining legacy will be deciding to run for a second term and the disaster of pulling out too late, giving us an even more deranged and vindictive Trump back in office. 🤦🏻‍♂️

Gleason score of 9!

[quote]The comments here aren’t much better. DLers are already planning out his funeral.

It's advanced prostate cancer that's spread to his bones. We're just being realistic.

How long before Trump says something crummy about him again?

Prostate cancer is relatively easy to cure as long as the cancer is confined to the prostate. Once the cancer spreads, it becomes much more difficult to cure. Treatment will probably consist of radiation and hormone therapy. I'd say his chances of living the next five years are 30-40%.

He probably already has. (I'm not checking.)

Why couldn't this diagnosis have been Trump?!

I still pray to the Baby Jesus every night that Trump has a massive heart attack and dies.

This better not interfere with my birthday parade.

Almost no one is spared a sad end, but if only for his diminished mental state, what would be the benefit for him toughing it out for another five years?

[quote]This will take the starch out of Tapper's book tour. No one is going to want to beat up on a dying man.

The book beats up on the enablers and the people involved in the cover-up. They're still guilty and need to be held accountable.

Thank you senior lesbian at R58. That's comforting. You always make such good contributions here.

But still. What awful news.

If you have such a hard-on for accountability, R111, go after the convicted felon who currently occupies The Oval Office and who has never been held accountable for the armed insurrection that he orchestrated on 1/6/21.

R111 is the typical gutless coward, always gunning for the low hanging fruit.

My comment @R133 is meant for the prick @R131.

That’s a great quote, of course, but it would seem To be out of context —no relation to where we are now except at an almost too literal level.

I would not have picked Marge as a person to take the high road.

She is human. Keep hope alive.

So the truth is: 1) he was diagnosed a year ago; 2) he faked confusion at the debate so... 3) as a desperate move, there would be an excuse to hand the nom to Kamala.

Marge posted a similar message when Jamie Raskin announced his cancer diagnosis.

“Melania and I are saddened to hear about Joe Biden’s recent medical diagnosis. We extend our warmest and best wishes to Jill and the family, and we wish Joe a fast and successful recovery.”

From the president…

That’s exactly had my Father died. Had prostate cancer and it spread to his bones. He died within 6 months

In case you missed it----ABC This Week Guest Moderator cut off a guest who pointed out how the Biden inner circle was bragging about how great Bidens performance was going to be at the first Biden/Trump debate. I mean they REALLY cut him off. Right to commercial. They didn't cut off Donna Brazille bragging about what a patriot Biden was. wtf?

Maybe it’s not fair but I feel Obama has a lot to answer for with his treatment of Biden. Why was it Hilary’s “turn” in 2016 after she ran a losing primary campaign four years earlier and was a senator for a fairly short time. Joe had been in the Senate for decades and then VP. He could have beaten Trump and probably had two terms in the WH. Hillary was not an effective candidate against Trump and she was generally so decisive that many women didn’t show up for her at the voting booth. It really is a tragic Biden saga.

It’s not fair of you.

No one wanted Biden or thought Biden was a better choice. Even Biden didn’t think so—or else he would have run. That he didn’t tells you everything.

So sad, too bad, Joe, Karma is a bitch.

[quote] DLers are already planning out his funeral.

That's just standard DL. Televised funerals are DL catnip.

R144 I don’t agree. Biden wanted to run but Obama told him to cool his jets. Obama Gould have rallied the party and held off Clinton world.

Biden chose not to run in 2016. That’s on him.

[quote] It’s not fair of you. No one wanted Biden or thought Biden was a better choice. Even Biden didn’t think so—or else he would have run. That he didn’t tells you everything.

You're wrong. The DNC was pressured to put Hillary up for the nomination because it was "her turn", even though she was never popular. It's easy to say Biden is unpopular now, but in 2016, he would have beaten Trump easily.

R11, phony Jake Tapper blames everyone around Biden for covering up his mental state for more than a year. If not for the debate exposing loss of memory, Joe would've run for another term. Jill pushed him to run, all she cared about was remaining First Lady.

From what I remember, the prevailing sentiment in 2015 was simply that Biden was too old to run. Four years later, the Democrats had reached the "desperate times call for desperate measures" phase. They were also waking up to how reluctant Americans were to elect a female president.

R146, Joe thought the funeral for Pope Francis was his passing.

R149 Biden chose not to run. It’s not hard.

[quote]Why was it Hilary’s “turn” in 2016 after she ran a losing primary campaign four years earlier and was a senator for a fairly short time. Joe had been in the Senate for decades and then VP. He could have beaten Trump and probably had two terms in the WH.

Because unlike Biden, Hillary had won primary states when she ran for President. She put up a damn good fight against Obama. and Obama knew that. There was a reason he made her Secretary of State.

Biden's first two campaign runs were practically non-starters, and he had no experience actually winning any primaries and staying long in the race. A love for a Vice President doesn't necessarily translate into winning the White House. Look at Al Gore.

Hillary was battle tested, Biden was not. This shit about it being "her turn" is stupid.

[quote]It's easy to say Biden is unpopular now, but in 2016, he would have beaten Trump easily.

Biden would have faced the same scrutiny that Hillary did, even worse, because there was no cachet to him running. Hillary had the possibility of being the first female president behind her. Biden would have been another John Kerry or Al Gore. Zero excitement or enthusiasm.

Fact: Joe Biden beat Trump in 2020, the only Democrat to do so.

Damned as you might try, you fuckers still can't change history.

[quote] From what I remember, the prevailing sentiment in 2015 was simply that Biden was too old to run.

Like Cheney, Biden was never a vice president who was seen as someone who would be running to succeed his two-term president. He was already 66 when be became vice president. And this was before we starting electing much older presidents.

Didn't he just lose his son around 2016? So it would've made sense for him not to run at that time?

The problem is he’s 82 and thus not the best candidate for chemotherapy.

It’s beyond chemotherapy at this point. The treatment of choice is morphine.

Joe Biden reveals he has an aggressive form of prostate cancer.

Why that's bad news for Joe Biden.

If Biden had announced from the beginning that he wouldn't seek a 2nd term, nothing would have been different. Even with a convention to decide the candidate, there's no way the Democratic Party would have dared not to pick Kamila. They would have never turned their back on a black woman. And Trump would have still won because Kamila is a lousy candidate.

You could argue that then Kamila would have had more time to introduce herself to the American public. It wouldn't have made a difference.

Who’s Kamila??

One of my back up dancers.

Kamala r162. It was obviously a typo. Those things happen on this newfangled thing called the internets.

I meant Kamala. Fuck me.

The Bidens are smarter than Jake Tapper.

This kills Jake’s PR Book Tour.

Misspelling it three times = MAGAt.

R160 a stopped clock, and all that…r162 crawl back home. She did her job. She had too little time to drop the baggage from Joe. If she had been fully free to run, she could have won as there would be time to differentiate herself.

R161^ there very well could have been time enough

And the fat rotund morbidly obese evil orange blob doesn't so much as get diabetes. If life were fair and poetic that motherfucker would wailing ing a hospice in excruciating pain from cancer of the ass.

R170 Everyday we joke about this in Heaven.

R161 I agree with this. Kamala wasn’t the perfect candidate, but who is anymore. In the end we all had a choice between her and the fat, disgusting tangerine felon. Calm, steady and dignified vs. uncivilized chaos wondering what new outrage the day will bring. EVERY FUCKING DAY. And the majority of the imbeciles chose the latter.

[quote]Most men with prostate cancer live long lives and die of something else.

Flip side: ALL men will get prostate cancer if they live long enough. But almost all will die of something else before they get to that point.

"Hillary up for the nomination because it was "her turn", even though she was never popular"

Kamala

I hate to say this because I truly love him, but I hope he goes quickly and I suspect he will.

He made one terrible mistake—deciding to run again. I read two books recently released and will read the Tapper book because I’m very interested to see how we got into our current mess. But even with all this info that he and his team really fucked up and his health has been deeply compromised for a while, I still love him to pieces. He’s such a good guy.

Someone with his health issues will not be able to handle cancer treatment. I suspect he won’t make it thru the year. I so hope he can remain pain free and that this will remind everyone of what a wonderful, decent guy he was.

Also, it’s touching seeing so many heart felt comments on this thread. DL DOES have a heart!

Pete and Chasten.

I wish him well but this means he knew about his diagnosis at least a year ago.

[quote] he knew about his diagnosis at least a year ago.

We were just wondering about that so i did some googlin' and his Doctor pronounced him "fit to run" in February 2024.

It's possible he ran again fully knowing he wasn't going to finish a second term but expecting to install Kamala early on.

But that one debate fucked it all up. In retrospect, he never should have done it.

[quote] If Barack Obama pushed the younger version of Biden in [R22]’s video to run for president in 2016, we never would’ve had Trump in the White House. VP Biden would’ve easily won that election.

I always assumed Obama did a deal with Billary in 2008 that he would back her in 2016. Obama’s excuse that Joe was too distracted by Beau’s death didn’t ring true.

R164 even though “a” and “i” are at opposite ends of a QWERTY keyboard.

My dad was “successfully” treated for prostate cancer with radiation seed therapy 25 years ago. In February 2024 it came back. He was already seeing a urologist and nephrologist for unrelated kidney issues for a few years and they caught it. He went on some crazy expensive meds that his insurance wouldn’t cover but his doctors were able to cover them through a grant. They were like $5,000 a month or more. The first three months were fine. Then right before Memorial Day weekend last year, doctors confirmed it had metastasized to his bones and likely his brain. My dad died two weeks later.

I hope Joe has a better outcome.

R178, it does not.

And yet Keanu...

Well, he did say he was bad to the bone.

Trump better not be invited/show up to the funeral.

He’ll probably still call him Sleepy Joe. Fuck him.

It's just a cold

Trump did nothing to woo swing voters, depending on his ignorant red county cultists. By September his campaign was dull, lethargic and macabre- as he was mentally still running against Biden and Kamala was out-raising him.

So how did he win every swing state?

Meanwhile at Mar Largo 🥳🎉🎊🙋🏼‍♂️🙋🏼‍♀️👋🏼🥳

After the debate Trump was able to successfully sell to center right apolitical white people— “You see I told you these tranny loving, open border lefties haven lying to you for your 3 years”.

R189 Because they cheated.

So sorry to hear

Joe was a good president.

Kamala was a good candidate.

America is a shit electorate.

[quote] Trump will outlive us all

Maybe, at some point, Trump will suffer a debilitating stroke that would leave him severely disabled in the last years of his life.

I had a great aunt (my grandfather's sister) who was toxic narcissist who verbally/emotionally abused her kids . Six of her eight kids had very limited contact with her when they reached adulthood and had their own families. Her two youngest kids were the only who ones who had a close relationship with her when they reached adulthood. The abuse my great aunt inflicted on her kids was known in the extended family. She was also racist bitch who got fired from a job as a school cook back in the 70s after she called a kid the n word and years later she made racist comments about nurses and other hospital employees

I had other older relatives who were good and kind people. They died in their 60s or early 70s of cancer, ALS, and other illnesses, while my cunt great aunt lived to be 88. But, the the last 14 years of her life were miserable because she suffered a stroke at 74 and was pretty much confined to a wheelchair for the rest of her life and she was dependent on others for care. The stroke didn't effect my aunt's speech. As a result, she continued be a nasty bitch and when she verbally abused or called healthcare workers in nursing homes racial slurs, it bit her in the ass. Nursing home administrators didn't put up with that shit and kicked her out.

She was kicked out of three facilities before her youngest son and his wife agreed to move into her house to take care of her. My great aunt qualified for home care attendant service( to give relief/respite to the son and daughter in law) . Again, it was drama because she would verbally abuse care attendants, and some of them asked care agencies to remove them from her case. The daughter in law who lived with my aunt was constantly stirring drama on Facebook because she would complain about how the other siblings (minus the youngest daughter in the family) not helping or visiting their mom.

My great aunt was in a nursing home in the last two years of her life 2018-2020. She died in November 2020 when they were still restrictions for funerals and other events due to covid. She was buried in a very small burial service with just her two youngest kids and their spouses in attendance. Her two youngest kids said that there were plans for a memorial service later on when covid restrictions would be lifted. They never had a later memorial service. A couple of the older kids in the family told my dad that none of the older six kids and their kids had any interest in attending a later memorial service.

Now, if Trump ended up disabled due to a stroke, he would be put under the care of private nurses. But, it would still be a miserable existence, especially if he has to be wheeled around and cared for completely by others. There would be no golf outings. His kids all seem like the types who would want him to remain hidden away at home and being cared for by nurses. Even with the best medical care, Trump in a disabled or bedridden state would still be susceptible to pressure sores and other illnesses.

Sometimes when I think about shitty people like Trump and karma, I often think of my great aunt. She lived a long life, but the last years were miserable and she deserved it. She was shitty abusive mom and nobody in my extended family blamed her older kids for not wanting to have close relationships with her.

[quote] Any statements so far from former presidents, vice presidents, governors, or Kamala?

As Biden and his family review treatment options, President Donald Trump and other political leaders began reaching out to share support for the former leader of the United States.

"Melania and I are saddened to hear about Joe Biden’s recent medical diagnosis," Trump wrote on Truth Social on Sunday afternoon. "We extend our warmest and best wishes to Jill and the family, and we wish Joe a fast and successful recovery."

Former Vice President Kamala Harris also posted on X on Sunday, saying she and her husband are keeping President Joe Biden and his family in their prayers. "Joe is a fighter — and I know he will face this challenge with the same strength, resilience, and optimism that have always defined his life and leadership," she wrote. Her husband, Doug Emhoff, the former second gentleman under Biden, separately posted his regards.

Also sharing her regards was former State Secretary Hillary Clinton, who posted, "I’m thinking of the Bidens as they take on cancer, a disease they’ve done so much to try to spare other families from. Wishing you a speedy, full recovery."

Secretary of State Marco Rubio posted on X, "Jeanette and I are united in prayer for the Biden Family amid this difficult time."

"Our hearts are with President Biden and his entire family right now," California Gov. Gavin Newsom posted to X on Sunday upon learning the news. "A man of dignity, strength, and compassion like his deserves to live a long and beautiful life. Sending strength, healing and prayers his way."

"President Biden knows that when you get knocked down, you get back up and fight," Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker posted, adding, "We’re with you in this fight, Joe."

"President Biden has served our nation with distinction," New York Gov. Kathy Hochul wrote on X. "During this difficult time, Bill and I are praying for his health and a speedy recovery."

New York Attorney General Letitia James also wrote a note on X, saying, "Heartbreaking news this afternoon. I’m praying for President Biden and his entire family, and I hope he makes a full recovery."

"Like so many of us, Joe Biden is a man of faith. In times like these, our faith carries us through hardship and powers us to persevere," wrote Democratic National Committee Chair Ken Martin. "Jenn and I are keeping the President and his family in our prayers."

"Gwen and I are praying for President Biden and his family," said Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz, who was also the Democratic vice presidential candidate in the 2024 elections, on X. "A truly decent man and a friend. We’re wishing him all the best."

Former Republican presidential candidate and current Ohio gubernatorial candidate Vivek Ramaswamy called for unity between parties, posting, "Politics aside, let’s pray for the health of our nation’s former President. His case of metastatic prostate cancer appears to be still in the hormone-sensitive disease stage, which leaves open the possibility of effective treatment."

Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro also expressed support for both Biden and his wife, saying on X, "May they find strength and hope in one another, and be lifted up by the thoughts and prayers of Americans across the country who are thinking of them right now."

"President Biden is a man of deep faith and extraordinary resilience," Former Secretary of Transportation Pete Buttigieg wrote on X. "Chasten and I are keeping him, and the entire Biden family, in our prayers for strength and healing."

Democratic senators who lent their support included Peter Welch of Vermont, Ruben Gallego of New Mexico, Tim Kaine of Virginia and John Fetterman of Pennsylvania.

Republican senators included Thom Tillis of North Carolina, Susan Collins of Maine and Roger Marshall of Kansas.

Republican Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia wrote on X, "I’m sorry to see this news. Cancer is truly awful. My Dad passed away in 2021 with cancer. Prays for Joe Biden and his family."

I'm surprised that Marjorie Taylor Geico didn't make a nasty statement.

In a surprising twist r195 is the aunt in a psychotic episode.

Has Jake tapper been shit on much on social media since this came out?

I don't think his illness was identified this late; it had already metastasized to his bones, which explains Biden's stiff gait. I suppose this was an open secret. Macron assisted him in reaching the stage for the Normandy landings. However, no one was willing to speak on the record before the debate.

Ultimately, this situation falls on Jill. Even if he wanted to run, as someone who loves him, she should have given him an ultimatum. From glimpses we have seen of Dark Jill, she wanted a Jackie Kennedy funeral experience.

^^^

I know, this is a horrible comment. I cannot understand her behavior otherwise.

R195 - what a grueling story - thanks for sharing. The thing about your mother even though she was constantly obnoxious as she aged, everyone around her made attempts to adapt (and help) where she did not - only her location changed. She never did learn her lesson about how she treated others and its impact on them. The last years of her life were miserable (physically- maybe emotionally) which should make you glad to be who you are in spite of all that toxic exposure.

[quote] Ruben Gallego of New Mexico,

When did I move to New Mexico?

R195 - my comment (201) referenced your mother - so sorry!! - I re-read your input and I meant 'Aunt' - please forgive my mistake. Again, thanks for sharing your story.

I don’t know why everyone is blaming Jill. Joe is an adult who’s been through the worst of tragedies and political shit. He wanted to stay president, and realized that Dump winning would be a disaster. He beat Dump once before and thought he could do it again. He’s an adult, I truly think it was his decision. No one has pushed him around before, why would anyone, even his wife, be able to push him around now?

Godspeed Uncle Joe. He looked to be in such outstanding health just a year ago.

Fuck you R205.

Junior McCocainebooger kept it classy.

What a deplorable.

What a chip off the fetid piece of shit he is.

Why can't unhealthy fat fuck get something metastatic and die?

Life is so unfair.

This is sad. Once the cancer has spread to the bone, there aren't a lot of options, especially for someone of Biden's age. Chemo and radiation would be very hard on his body at this point.

I just hope his passing is as painless as possible, and I hope after he dies, he'll find a way to kill Trump from beyond.

Yet the Orange Pig lives on.

(Love you Joe Biden, but if you have to go, try for the week of June 8th. TIA)

[quote] And this was before we starting electing much older presidents.

I think it's easy to forget this. The last few US elections have normalised elderly presidential candidates. Ten years ago, the fact that Biden and Bernie were already in their seventies was a concern. There will probably be a swing back to younger candidates after what happened last year.

Trumps enjoying this big time.

He gets to die and because of him we’re stuck with dump. Fuck Biden.

R214 I hope he enjoys it so much he has a fatal stroke.

R215, in a feat not to be discounted, Trump became only the Republican since 1988 to win a majority of the vote, so it’s likely 2024 was not winnable, no matter whom the Democrats ran, or however late Biden exited the race.

R227 Bush won a majority in 2004.

Right, R218, since 1988, only Dubya 2004 & Trump 2024 won a majority.

I want this piece of shit to die immediately after his father does. And I want his death to be slow and horrifically painful.

This bitch.

R221 Fuck that cunt. I hope she gets cunt cancer.

I might still bet the field, but I like Junior’s chances in 2028.

R223 To die? I hope so.

These fucking Republican assholes can't have just a shred of decency and etitquette and say that they're sorry to hear the news and they're hoping for the best for Biden and his family. That's all they have to say, it's just simple manners.

But no, they can't even have the sense to do that. They're such scum.

Sorry, I meant "etiquette."

To win the nomination, R224. MAGAts love the Trump brand.

R220 Every fucking news outlet should be condemning this sick tweet. Every fucking Republican member of Congress should denounce Don Jr. and call for him to make a public televised apology to the Bidens. Every fucking Democrat should be talking about this every single fucking day and calling out Don Jr.'s soullessness and hatefulness and grilling his father about this until Trump Sr. himself drops dead.

But they won't.

I think Joe’s death (and, yeah, it will be soon, mercifully) might bring this country together somewhat. After all the insanity of the past 6 months, to be reminded of a president who was a kind, decent, honorable man who wasn’t fucking us over every second of the day. It will be Joe’s final play to save democracy.

I love the guy so much. Hope it’s as painless and peaceful as possible. And that he’ll die knowing how much this country loves him — after all the blame poured on him for the past year.

R227 I choose to see him die. But much sooner than 2028.

A doctor writes:

First, Biden has hormone sensitive prostate cancer per the WSJ. Hormone deprivation therapy can go LONG way in treating even metastatic disease, to the point of Biden facing no meaningful reduction of lifespan or quality of life.

Second, given that prostate cancer screening isnt recommended past age 70, the fact that Biden's cancer wasn't caught until it caused symptoms is no surprise at all.

The reason for that screening recommendation is that the vast majority of the time, prostate cancer doesn't cause any problems, such that treating it causes more problems than it solves above a certain age/below an expected lifespan. And when it is metastatic, hormone sensitive disease is quite treatable, as i said earlier. It's a teeny, tiny subset of prostate cancers that is both going to meaningfully reduce lifespan and/or quality of life without treatment, AND is unresponsive to treatment.

In Biden's metastatic case, the cancer has presumably spread to his coccyx, or tailbone. Removal of the coccyx (ie, coccygectomy) is an oft-performed, low-risk procedure that generally catches all the cancer. That said, given Biden's age and existing mobility issues, the surgery would almost certainly render him wheelchair-bound for the rest of his life.

[quote] in a feat not to be discounted, Trump became only the Republican since 1988 to win a majority of the vote

No, in addition to R218's reminder that Bush had a small majority in 2004, Trump in 2024 had a plurality: slightly more than Harris, but under 50%.

Do Joe's grandsons have mega meat, too?

I voted for Biden. But sadly I discovered he enjoyed ONE part of the LGB+TEEEE alphabet more than the other parts. I am a gay man. This is not my flag and it never will be.

I wonder what kind of a Catholic sendoff he'll get. Cardinal McElroy will probably not object to him being given a public funeral Mass.

[quote] Kamala wasn’t the perfect candidate, but who is anymore. In the end we all had a choice between her and the fat, disgusting tangerine felon. Calm, steady and dignified vs. uncivilized chaos wondering what new outrage the day will bring. EVERY FUCKING DAY. And the majority of the imbeciles chose the latter.

There are never any perfect candidates. The only people who ever seem to believe that are far right MAGAs who think Trump doesn't do anything wrong and far left progressives who believe that Bernie Sanders, AOC and The Squad are squeaky clean saints.

Kamala wasn't a lousy candidate; most voters were just very determined to make a lousy choice.

R232, Trump in ‘24 became the first Republican since Bush in ‘04 to win the popular vote. The last time that had happened before was in ‘88.

He did not win a majority in 2024. He was below 50%.

Now, I wonder if fellow Roman Catholics Biden and Pelosi will let bygones be bygones and make up.

Last I heard, they aren't on speaking terms.

He was not on speaking terms… not they

R221 That is one relentless disrespectful no holds barred gutter ass bitch. The fact that Democrats still have not made her mere footnote in history shows the danger we’re in.

[quote] He was not on speaking terms… not they

I stand corrected, r241. You're right. I recall now that Pelosi said she'd speak to Biden whenever he wanted to.

I hope Biden and Pelosi bury the hatchet. In the end, Pelosi was just trying to do what was best for her country (although it turned out to be too little, too late). I doubt she was rubbing her hands with the glee at the thought of betraying Biden.

[quote] Every fucking news outlet should be condemning this sick tweet. Every fucking Republican member of Congress should denounce Don Jr. and call for him to make a public televised apology to the Bidens. Every fucking Democrat should be talking about this every single fucking day and calling out Don Jr.'s soullessness and hatefulness and grilling his father about this until Trump Sr. himself drops dead.

[quote] But they won't.

Trump and his spawn Don Jr. will always get away with nasty shit.

Back in 2019, Trump mocked Democratic Congresswoman Debbie Dingell after her husband, former Congressman John Dingell died.

Congressional Republicans didn't condemn Trump and very few Congressional Democrats called out Trump. Poor Debbie was done dirty by both sides.

Now with Trump Jr., no one in Congress or Senate is going to call him out for the disgusting shit he said about the Bidens.

I hope Debbie Dingell outlives Trump so she can mock him when he dies. Very few people backed her up, so I wouldn't blame her if she felt glee in the event of Trump's death.

I never really thought of the idea that Biden insisted on running for asr one term as being filled hubris and selfishness. I really believe much of it had to do with his cognitive disconnection from what was going on around him for real, which was then being swapped out for non-truths that his keepers around him were feeding him (and that he was led to believe in).

That all said and regardless, this guy has had a fcuk of a year and the stress of it all must’ve weighed heavily on his health on many levels…including, sadly, with this sad diagnosis.

[quote] Trump better not be invited/show up to the funeral. He’ll probably still call him Sleepy Joe. Fuck him.

Will Michelle Obama stand in her truth and not attend because she hates Trump?

Why is r247 mistaking Trump for Biden? It seems rather mean and idiot to bring up a failed non sequitur.

If th Biden’s included Dump at Joe’s funeral, that’s a missed opportunity. John McCain made SURE Dump was humiliated, but John was pretty crazy compared to Joe. Joe went after him by how he did his funeral, it was beautiful.

R248 because that was her excuse for ignoring the death of Jimmy Carter and the inauguration.

She didn’t say that about the Cater service.

He had a hot ass but he won’t live forever.

Listen to her podcast.

[bold] Wait for it....[/bold]...That awkward moment when Biden is lying in state and Trump shows up with a podium to talk about the Joe stealing the 2020 Election, the "Biden Crime Family" and how Biden kept classified documents in his garage. ...........That's exactly how it's gonna happen. 100%. And the GOP MAGA will defend him every vulgar step of the way....

Biden can live for years with treatment. I think he has 1 or 2 more years in him at least. There have been some big advances in cancer treatment to prolong life but maybe not cure you.

I guess he's wishing he had lived up to his campaign promise of curing cancer.

[quote] If he dies before 2028 he will be the political shitstorm who keeps on shitting. We tried to tell you motherfucking narcissists. He better not die before January 29. He better not

What the fuck are you talking about??

[quote] Trump will outlive us all

Oh, please. Who comes up with this bullshit? 99-year-olds on their deathbed?

He had such command and charisma

Brutal news, this diagnosis took my father, much younger than Joe. Adding to my sadness was nausea, when I read Trump's profoundly hypocritical good wishes. For years he's been insulting Joe, and now somehow expects to be taken seriously when pretending to be nice. No-one believes a single syllable - in fact it's merely another deeper insult in its obvious insincerity.

Trump's son's tweet is naturally psychopathically disgusting, but at least much more true to his family values. It's what Trump senior would like to have tweeted, but as a de facto president could not quite risk. But since the name is the same, the hate-tweet will send all the right family messages to Maga savages.

No one, R254, not even the most MAGAiest MAGAtt, would ever invite this president to deliver a funeral eulogy.

No one!

Even I couldn't recognize this version of George Clooney and I'm much MUCH too young to be demented. I'm 39!

I was diagnosed with prostate cancer one year ago. I had Gleason 7 (4+3) with no evidence for metastases, which is currently classified as intermediate stage cancer with an unfavorable prognosis.

I was therefore treated with 6 months of androgen deprivation hormone therapy (which is a euphemism for chemical castration) and one concurrent month of radiation therapy. I’ve still not fully recovered from some of the side effects. There’s no guarantee I will ever recover. Biden has Gleason 9 with bone mets, which means the treatment will likely be more severe.

It’s my understanding that to state that Biden’s cancer is hormone sensitive, he must have already been on androgen deprivation therapy for some period of time, i.e., the cancer diagnosis was made in the past. Questions include how the determination of hormone sensitivity was made. PSA decrease? MRI analysis? Biopsies? PET scan/CT? I had ‘em all. My understanding is that each read-out can have different implications for prognosis and treatment modality.

I wish President Biden the very best and hope he comes through the process successfully.

It's already been said several times, but this should have happened to Trump instead.

I hope he is the next one to get struck down by the Heavens.

Former Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau:

Joe, I’m thinking about you and Jill today.

You’ve always been a fighter, my friend! I am praying for your full and speedy recovery. Thank you for continuing to inspire us all.

R131, only idiots didn't know Biden was very senile. I'll excuse people who've never met anyone senile, but for the people who have or have family members who are or were senile, they KNEW

I said that over 2 and a half years ago and you all said I was lying. My grandfather was senile. I know it when I see it.

I don't really give a shit either. The repugs can shut the fuck up. Reagan was MUCH more senile than Biden. He didn't know a single thing that was going on during his last few years in office.

And jake tapper can drop dead. The country is in the last year of two of democracy, and he's writing about Biden? If he was so determined to write this book, half of it should have included what the repugs did during Reagan's last term in office

Though I wish him well it's a shame they couldn't also have been as honest about his cognitive decline early enough that the Dems. at least could of had a fighting chance last year.

I actually think Trump means his nice words He’s also good at knowing what his base wants. Most would feel some sympathy with Biden,. Trump Jr. is just a punk with bad political instincts. Trump says what is useful to him in the moment. That’s why he can demean you and then ally with you the next day. and the opposite is true of course.

R267 “could of”? Really?

Trumps well wishes I bet weren’t even written by him. Most likely one of his staff. He’s not capable of being compassionate or classy.

Even people low on compassion and empathy will make an exception for cancer (however feebly it might be expressed), because there's almost no one in the Western world who hasn't lost, or almost lost, or is about to lose, a friend or loved one to the disease.

My aren't you the uptight school marm, r269. Thanks for offering nothing to the thread.

In other words, he would have died in office and Kamala would have gotten her wish of becoming president. If only Joe kept it together for one more year, mentally speaking. But something tells me people would have stayed home either way.

R271 See R220.

Joe and Jill Biden said on Monday they were thankful for the "love and support" they've received since the former president's office announced his cancer diagnosis on Sunday.

"Cancer touches us all," the couple said in a post on Joe Biden's social media account. "Like so many of you, Jill and I have learned that we are strongest in the broken places. Thank you for lifting us up with love and support."

Biden's office on Sunday said he had been diagnosed on Friday with prostate cancer, saying that while it was "a more aggressive form of the disease, the cancer appears to be hormone-sensitive which allows for effective management."

"The President and his family are reviewing treatment options with his physicians," the statement said on Sunday.

Former Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau to Trump:

Donald, I’m thinking about you and Melania today. Well mostly Melania because she Hoovered my fat Canadian dong like a an old pro. I could tell she's in dire need of a good fuck. Lord knows your ugly mushroom dick could never satisfy a woman. I guess that's why you rape them. Why is Joe dying and not you? A great president and magnificent Irish manhood. She had Mel too, as did Hunter.

Ta!

Donald, stick bleach up your ass, Trump was not popular when he left office. He still had his strong following but was unpopular. The Democrats let this man build a narrative because Trump is a brilliant propagandist. He basically told the American people, you know I’m full of stanky stuff, but look how these crooks been conning you. Let them eat cake and ignore what the fuck we see with our own very eyes.

Knowing this, and knowing Biden's age, can I make a prediction? Biden will outlive Trump!!! (Come on, Karma, do your thing!)

OMG. Tell me JD Vance hasn't been anywhere near Biden, recently.

Why does God hate Dems so?

Fuck it why do we just run Morgan Freeman in 28. He is still sharp as a whip.

[quote] I never really thought of the idea that Biden insisted on running for asr one term as being filled hubris and selfishness. I really believe much of it had to do with his cognitive disconnection from what was going on around him for real, which was then being swapped out for non-truths that his keepers around him were feeding him (and that he was led to believe in).

This is what I've always thought. Biden isn't accountable for the trainwreck of the last election. The senior Democrats shouldn't have let the situation drift so far. In the end, when they decided they REALLY wanted Biden out, they got him out relatively fast. They should have done it sooner.

[quote] The Democrats let this man build a narrative because Trump is a brilliant propagandist.

With more than a helping hand from a global, post-Covid, inflation to an extent most voters had never experienced. Notwithstanding that America fared better than any other Western nation.

Well said, R283.

Obama

R263 I'm sorry to hear of your diagnosis and hope that you continue to make good process in your recovery.

I had a radical prostatectomy last year and still have side effects from that procedure that I'm dealing with. Even after my surgery, residual cancer remained in my pelvic area that couldn't be removed surgically, so I'm currently undergoing radiation therapy - 5 days a week for 8 weeks. Though the side effects of the treatments aren't debilitating, they frequently leave me with nausea and fatigue and other minor issues. I'm 20 years younger than Biden and am struggling, so I can only imagine how difficult it will be for Biden to handle the side effects of whatever treatments he chooses to have. He appears to otherwise be in excellent physical shape for someone his age, though, so I'm hoping he can fare well.

I know people mean well, but I cringe a little when I see people sending well wishes to cancer sufferers with messages that say "cancer sucks!" I just saw a tweet from Adam Kinzinger wishing Biden well with that message.

It makes cancer seem like a minor convenience or irritation, like getting a migraine or spraining your ankle. As someone currently battling cancer, I can tell you that a cancer diagnosis is life changing, not to mention potentially life ending. It doesn't just "suck;" it completely alters your life - every minute, hour, and day of it.

Okay. I've vented. Moving along...

I am so tired of him and his family. I was hoping they'd just fade into the sunset. Now he and Jill are going to be turned into non-stop long-suffering martyrs.

And it sounds like you are turning yourself into one as well, r288.

Tired: dynasties

Wired: meritocracy

R288 Take it to "Truth" Social, Hortense. We're all quite tired of you and your ilk.

R282 This is my theory. Time was passing. Meaning he was declining even further. That’s how this works actually. He may not have been as bad in January. But come summertime—not recognizing the biggest actor in the world and that nonsense at the debate. But anyone with a brain should have had the foresight to know how fast mental decline occurs for someone already declining.

[quote] not recognizing the biggest actor in the world

In 1998.

Colon cancer is curable and is not a death sentence. The problem lies with men not getting checked sooner.

It's not just that Clooney has a famous face; he and the Bidens had met in person numerous times.

He's had the cancer for YEARS!!!! When he was president!!!! WTF?

R282: Biden wouldn't go! In finally withdrawing, he still felt he was capable, but was faced with the political reality that the public disagreed. They were able to get him out "fast" only after his train wreck debate appearance.

Karoline Leavitt addresses Biden's cancer diagnosis, Trump's response

Thanks for the warning, r298!

"Hormone deprivation therapy can go LONG way..."

Tell me more.

And yet the guy currently – and most shamefully – occupying the White House is as beastly as ever. He runs on pure spite.

I mean, they knew how far gone he was mentally and they still propped him up to run??? He should not have! They should be grooming other dem candidates to run besides Kamala...and not Pete! I had such high hopes for Gavin but I don't think it's possible for him unless as a VP.

He does indeed, r301.

So stop giving him your energy. Pour it into something constructive instead

Interestingly, #GenocideJoe is trending due to Zionist activists, who are attacking Biden due to his historical criticism of illegal West Bank settlements.

R298 Another missed opportunity for these so-called "journalists." The follow-up to that question should have been, "The president's son, Donald J. Trump Jr., also posted a tweet yesterday responding to former President Biden's cancer diagnosis that read, and I quote, 'What I want to know is how did Dr. Jill Biden miss stage five metastatic cancer or is this just another coverup?' Does the White House condemn Donald Trump Jr.'s tweet and will you call upon Donald Trump Jr. to issue an apology?"

Leavitt would have been left scrambling.

r304 Twitter trends don't mean anything anymore when only the vermin is left. It's all manipulation, plus all the normal folk left that place a long time ago, so it's not representative of anything but the far right.

r303 Girl, he's kinda hard to ignore. But also, this was my first T comment in months, I mainly post in entertainment threads. So you're barking up the wrong bitch!

[quote] Fuck that cunt. I hope she gets cunt cancer.

Maybe, Loomer will go in for a plastic surgery procedure and will have a Joan Rivers type ending.

Don, Jr. is an asshole who thinks "Dr." Jill is a medical doc? WTF. My mother was diagnosed with breast cancer after a routine mammogram, two years ago. She was stage one. Her doctors said radiation and chemo were totally unnecessary and they're giving her hormone blockers, after a lumpectomy to remove the cancer. She has a lot of joint pain and hot flashes and bone loss. But she's doing well. The thing is, she's an ex smoker. A heavy smoker. She stopped about 20 years ago. She's also a candidate for colon cancer because she has to get colonoscopies every two years and she has chronic GI problems and pre cancerous polyps. She was shocked that she had breast cancer. It wasn't on the list. Now , after reading about Biden, I worry that her cancer has traveled.

R309 No, Don Jr. doesn't think Jill Biden is a medical doctor. He's clearly mocking her for using the "Dr." title, as the MAGA cult and conservative media did relentlessly when Biden ran in 2020. Don't you remember all the "She's just a teacher! It's not like she went to medical school! Why is she calling herself a doctor?" BS the MAGATs wailed? Don Jr. is a cruel, disgusting piece twat.

Sorry to hear about your mom. If she's having regular checkups, which she probably is since she's had cancer, I'm sure she'll be monitored closely.

Don Jr. could've done the right thing and said he's sorry about Joe Biden's health struggles and he wishes Joe and his family well.

Of course, he's such a slimy POS even that basic courtesy is beyond him.

R311 It's sheer cruelty is what it is.

of course Don jr knows she's not a medical doctor...he's just using that to make fun of them. real classy.

I don't think that's how cancer travels...sorry about your mom. she can have cancer in 2 different places...it the colon cancer spreads, it would go to nearby organs first.

Put Don Jr. on one of his safaris in Africa, then take away his guns.

Guess which animal I'm betting on in a confrontation between Donald Trump Junior and a lion.

I'd pay good money to watch that.

What did Don Jr say. Why are they so nasty?

R316 See R220

Oncologist reacts to Biden's prostate cancer diagnosis:

You know, it is possible that the advance of his cancer caused the dramatic changes we saw in him that last year. Yes he had the luxury of a "basement campaign" in 2020. But after that he did just fine for the first two years of his presidency. I didn't really notice him slowing down until the middle of year 3. But if the cancer had advanced to his bones at that point then he would have had more pain and it would definitely age him rapidly. If I was Joe, at the age of 82 there's no way I would go through all the chemo and other extreme treatments. I'd take the minimum to tolerate it and just enjoy my life. Chemo is just exchanging one toxin for another. King Chuck has said no to chemo. It's worth thinking about.

If the cancer doesn't kill you the chemo will.

My strong belief is that they've known about this diagnosis for a while, and kept it quiet - explains his frailty over the past year or so. They released the news now, to take the wind of the Tapper book's sails.

I think they knew as well. That's why he was always on vacation, at the beach and his wife was taking his meetings

[quote] Chemo is just exchanging one toxin for another.

I know you are specifically referring to a man in his 80s who is blessed with an energetic wife and who can choose to spend time in comfort with his grandchildren. But Chemotherapy is not “just” an exchange of toxins. It tends to work. That sort of language is careless and dangerous and leads patients down paths that will not help them in the slightest.

I have an aggressive cancer that was undiagnosed by my GP despite 5 months of my complaints. I had surgery and Chemotherapy. I felt like my legs were repeatedly run over by a car for 3 days after treatment. I was so nauseous I could not sit up. I had an allergic reaction and my dose was altered multiple times. And it was all worth it.

Chemotherapy saved my life.

"I mean, they knew how far gone he was mentally and they still propped him up to run???"

The Democrats don't groom candidates like the Rethugs. There was no one else available except his VP. Who would you suggest- Pete Buddygig?

Glad for you r323. Thanks for contributing.

[quote] Oh, he’s had this for many years, maybe even a decade, growing there and spreading. That’s right. It’s a little surprising. I looked back at the records and there’s no evidence that when he got his health status and the medical records were released, that he had a prostate specific antigen,” the doctor explained.

[quote] Continuing the doctor said: “Now, it is true that a lot of people recommend not doing a prostate-specific antigen after 70, but President Biden’s been in public life a very long time. He was vice president and had a lot of exams under 70. So it’s a little surprising that they didn’t do it. And maybe President Biden decided he didn’t want the test. Many men do decide they don’t want the PSA, but this is also aggressive.”

[quote] “Now, you might test it again a few months later and see if the number has gone up or gone down, that you’ve got an aberrant reading for one reason or another, but I don’t – that doesn’t seem likely in this situation, either they didn’t test for it or they did test for it, they didn’t report it and we didn’t get the information as a public,” he added.

R323, I respect yu and your experience. But yes, I was especially referring to older adults. If I were in my 80's I would not wish to go through the difficulties that a course of chemo might present. The runway is much shorter and I'd rather spend my time enjoying what remains of my life. There are no guarantees, true enough. But if I were faced with a very agressive cancer, and I was diagnosed at a late stage and I was in my 80's, I don't think I would go through what you went through.

I've been through hormone therapy, and it's relatively benign. Testosterone is the cancer 'food' and ridding the body of it is intended to slow or stop the cancer. He could be around for a while.

A short while I would think R328. He's 82 and frail and even before the cancer diagnosis I didn't think he had much longer to live. I know three people who were diagnosed with prostate cancer in their 60s, One of them had stage 4. They all managed to pull through, but they were otherwise healthy before the diagnosis

But the testosterone replacement won't affect his big familial ding dong will it? Asking for a friend.

R328 I would agree with you if it was just the prostate cancer. But it has moved into his bones.

Biden may just have been diagnosed, but it seems that he's had cancer for some time.

Quite the "coincidence" that the cancer story cancelled out Jake Tappers Biden tell all book about his illness.

"Biden had the cancer when he was in the White House"--------CNN

Either it’s an unusually fast moving aggressive cancer that was not detectable a year ago… or Biden and his people kept it hidden throughout the first half of 2024 when he declared he was healthy and ready to keep being our President for another 4 year term.

[quote] Either it’s an unusually fast moving aggressive cancer that was not detectable a year ago… or Biden and his people kept it hidden throughout the first half of 2024

Another possibility, per Rahm Emanuel's oncologist brother:

[quote] Now, it is true that a lot of people recommend not doing a prostate-specific antigen after 70, but President Biden’s been in public life a very long time. He was vice president and had a lot of exams under 70. So it’s a little surprising that they didn’t do it. And maybe President Biden decided he didn’t want the test. Many men do decide they don’t want the PSA, but this is also aggressive.

If that’s what happened, R336, it was an unwise dice roll.

[quote] Many men do decide they don’t want the PSA

Can anyone explain why someone wouldn’t want a PSA test? It sounds so stupid to refuse such a thing.

[quote] Quite the "coincidence" that the cancer story cancelled out Jake Tappers Biden tell all book about his illness.

The suggestion that this was known during Biden’s presidency, which would mean a second cover-up, is going to benefit the dementia cover-up story.

Suggestion

Speculation

What happened to facts?

R338... the views on PSA are mixed now. They can lead to overdiagnosis and overtreatment.

The shift comes on the heels of a growing body of evidence that shows the benefits of PSA screening may not outweigh the potential harm of unnecessary treatment. PSA screening has always been somewhat controversial. That's because PSA tests often alert doctors to the presence of cancer, but there is no precise way to determine, definitively, whether the cancers detected would have ever caused symptoms or harm during a man's lifetime. One study estimated overdetection to rise with age, from 27% at age 55 to 56% by age 75.

In the past few years, more and more men who undergo PSA screening and later learn that they have cancer have opted to pursue active surveillance. This strategy involves frequent monitoring of the disease through PSA tests and biopsies—and postponing treatment until the cancer shows signs of increasing its activity. In short, these men choose to live with prostate cancer until it advances, sometimes avoiding potentially life-altering side effects for several years.

Scott Adams, the Dilbert-cartoonist-turned-MAGA-jerkwad, has announced he is dying from the same exact cancer situation as Biden.

The Docs are covering their asses suggesting Biden probably didn't get the PSA blood test since he was past the age they recommend screening. They are also saying that prostate cancer can "sneak up on you." But my experience with my father was that he was having a lot of difficulty peeing. And his doctor was always checking and massaging his prostate. Once a month. He was diagnosed at 84. But he had so many other health problems he died at 87 from a massive stroke.

[quote] The shift comes on the heels of a growing body of evidence that shows the benefits of PSA screening may not outweigh the potential harm of unnecessary treatment.

That makes no sense at all. The PSA result is just information. It doesn’t cause anything to happen automatically afterward. Whatever medical decision a patient makes for themself, including doing nothing, it should be based on as much information as possible.

[quote] And his doctor was always checking and massaging his prostate.

I wish I had a young good-looking doctor like that.

Hilarious to think that any sane POTUS (I exclude the Circus Peanut in Chief) would not be getting regular checkups of all kinds.

Chemo and radiation is useless if it's spread to his bones. Once cancer spreads to the bones it's end-stage and nothing can be done.

R296 Prostate cancer is insidious. Most men who have it wouldn't even know they had it without testing. I get regular PSA tests because my father died of prostate cancer. Five years ago, my PSA results went way up. I had a biopsy done and I found out I had aggressive prostate cancer requiring surgery to have my prostate removed. But up until the day of my surgery, I never had any symptoms that would indicate anything was wrong. No problems urinating, no erectile dysfunction, no pain, no blood in my urine. I felt perfectly healthy. Without PSA testing, I would probably be dead today.

I agree R347. He has access to some of the best medical care in the world.

My prostate health benefits from taking daily finasteride.

A friend's father was diagnosed with multiple myeloma at the age of 81. He is going through Chemo. He will not be cured but it is possible if he is in otherwise good health, he can live with it. But at 81 living with it is aa relative term.

R320 are you saying that because of his age or just in general.

R347 He got regular checkups, but most doctors don't do PSA tests for men over age 70. That's because a large percentage of men develop prostate cancer in their later years, but if you get it after 70, it's generally slowing growing and you'll die from something else before the prostate cancer gets you. In Biden's case, it sounds like he was developing symptoms that indicated there may have been prostate problems, and that's why additional testing was done. Sadly, it sounds like he developed aggressive prostate cancer, which is somewhat rare among men in his age bracket.

Why do people keep saying this will hurt Jake Tapper’s book sales. They aren’t struggling currently and it would only enhance sales further. Like any political junkie who buys these books, Biden’s cancer diagnosis would make less interested. No now they’re probably even more interested. Nobody is not going to buy a book out of respectability or mourning.

R355 If Tapper was a decent human being, he'd cancel his book tour and not promote his stupid book which does no one any good, especially now.

But he's not a decent human being.

[quote] My prostate health benefits from taking daily finasteride.

Yeah, I had a doctor who assured me that I would not have to worry about dying from an enlarged prostate.

R356 No he should do exactly what the fuck he is doing because it almost criminal the charade the Biden family , excluding Joe himself, tried to pull. The sitting President didn’t recognize George Clooney and was possibly dying from cancer but he JUST HAD TO RUN. HE HEAD TO. They are the reason Trump is in office, not just the electorate. They made the general public, regular iq, apolitical white electorate completely mistrust the administration. And if you’re not into politics, can you really blame them.

Not discounting anyone’s own experience, the NYT was a little more guardedly optimistic: “ Dr. Judd Moul, a prostate cancer expert at Duke University, said that men whose prostate cancer has spread to their bones, “can live 5, 7, 10 or more years” with current treatments. A man like Mr. Biden, in his 80s, “could hopefully pass away from natural causes and not from prostate cancer,” he said.”

Can they stop picking on him now that he is not president And dying?

R360 Are you kidding? Biden's prostate cancer will be the new MAGA conspiracy theory. They're loving it.

R358 No, Hortense, we're not interested in your MAGA rants. We've told you that repeatedly, but you insist on coming back, flailing your DL arms like one of those freaky inflatable tube things you see in the parking lot of a used car dealership and screaming for attention.

Run along.

R358 Trump couldn't tell the difference between E. Jean Carroll and his own wife.

But do go on.

R362 There you go with that lying ass shit. WTF is a hortense and I’m not MAGA. But you already knew that.

I’m just pissed the fuck off. Trump was deeply unpopular upon losing the presidency in 2020. Because he did lose right? I hope Biden doesn’t suffer and even beats this. Carry on, you one dimensional loser upset that everyone isn’t as one dimensional as you.

If there's anything positive that can come from this, maybe now the medical community can reevaluate and get some definitive consensus on PSA testing for men.

For years, they've gone back and forth - yes, get them. No, it's not necessary. Yes, you should. No, maybe not.

Personally, I think all men should get annual PSA tests after 45. It's a simple blood test.

I was surprised that my most recent blood work didn't include a PSA test. (I'm 72.) I had no idea they'd discontinued them for men over 70. Seems foolish.

R366 That’s what I said but I fucked around and found out.

R335 A PSA is a good indicator of the presence of cancer and it's a simple blood test men over 50 should have regularly.

“He did not develop it in the last 100 to 200 days,” Dr. Ezekiel J. Emanuel, an oncologist who served as an adviser on the coronavirus pandemic for the Biden administration, said on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe.” “He had it while he was president. He probably had it at the start of his presidency in 2021.

“I don’t think there’s any disagreement about that,” added Dr. Emanuel, who noted that both Presidents Barack Obama and George W. Bush had reported being tested for prostate cancer.

[Quote] Can they stop picking on him now that he is not president And dying?

R360 NO!

[Quote] Are you kidding? Biden's prostate cancer will be the new MAGA conspiracy theory. They're loving it.

R361and not just MAGA

"Mixed in with the prayers were a few whispered uncertainties that reflected a lingering lack of trust in what he and those closest to him say about his health. Text chains among Democrats who worked on the 2024 campaign lit up with questions: When did he learn he had prostate cancer? What if he had stayed in last year’s race and won?"

"Former Representative Dean Phillips of Minnesota, who ran a long-shot bid challenging Mr. Biden for the Democratic nomination last year, suggested that the former president had timed the announcement of his diagnosis to deflect the growing wave of criticism from within the party.:

“I don’t think it’s coincidental that this was announced this week,” Mr. Phillips said in an interview. “It’s hard to comport otherwise.”

Link please r369. Who is Mr. Phillips?

R370 read my post Dorothy. Did you only read the last sentence? The link to the NYTimes article @ R368

I had forgotten about civil rights attorney Leo Terrell, a ubiquitous OJ defender, until he reemerged as a MAGAt Fox regular. Of course, he's now ensconced in the Justice Department as an assistant attorney general for civil rights, considering elder abuse charges against Jill Biden. The nutters have completely taken over this country.

I called it first

Michael Moore: Those pushing Biden to stay in race committing ‘elder abuse’ 7/8/24

So many people are so damned obsessed and consumed with political bullshit that they see motives and conspiracies everywhere. So what if Joe released this information to coincide with Tapper's book? Joe has a right to say or do WTF he wants. Fuck t hem. They're just pissed off because they look bad bullying him and pillorying him. The truth is the Extreme Right couldn't be happier to fuel all the negative shit being peddled about the 2024 election and trashing Biden, who was a damned good President until the media started regurgitating GOP talking points. But let's trash Joe Biden to make sure it sticks in 2026 and 2028. Discrediting Biden discredits Democratic policy prescriptions and definitely fucks with our foreign policy accomplishments in this Global economy. The narrowness and dishonesty of Trump saying that Ukraine is not our war, today was an example of an insurmountable ignorance he and his followers embrace. Now, Biden ruins everything, ruins their strategy again, by announcing he has cancer. Aggressive, metastatic cancer in his bones. At the age of 82. So they are actually pissed off at him and see his announcement as a tactic. The fact is, enough people were aware of it so that it could not be kept secret, he had to announce it. People usually come forward to get ahead of a leak. Fuck all of them.

R374 this is the handy work of that entitled cunt Jill

Let me guess, R272 - you use “could of”, “would of” and should of” and don’t understand why it’s an assault on the ears of educated people.

[quote] I was surprised that my most recent blood work didn't include a PSA test. (I'm 72.)

If your doctor won’t do it, you can get the test yourself. Don’t let a doctor screw you.

R362 really thinks he has latched onto something clever with this Hortense “read.”

R362, you’re a dizzy idiot. I don’t care what your dumb ass thinks, you have no power over me and I will continue to post here whenever I damn well please.

So stew in those juices, ya big leftist dummy. Keep losing!

R378 Oh, Hortense. Aren't you precious? Sad, pathetic, incompetent, and a waste of oxygen. But precious nonetheless.

In a resurfaced clip from 2022 Biden says that he had cancer

' Because it was a four lane highway that was accessible my mother drove us . . . you had to put on their windshield wipers to get literally the oil slick off the window

That's why I and so damn many other people I grew up have cancer . . .Delaware had the highest cancer rate in the nation'

R373 He usually has the pulse on things. He is just either diminished as a far leftie wackjob or fat.

At least I have a pulse R381

[quote] the msm is already actively laundering the reputation of a war criminal who oversaw the genocide of palestinians who's selfish nature allowed trump to win a second term - joe biden is an awful monster. prostate cancer doesnt change that.

This tweet - from a man who won’t take sides in Ukraine vs Russia, by the by - is why I can’t fuck with people who still blame Susan Sarandon. I've had it up to here with everyone blaming everyone but Trump and his low-information supporters.

But, R383, we’d never have had to experience Trump 1.0 or Trump 2.0 without the likes of Susan Sarandon, Prof. Eddie Glaude & all of Jill Stein’s voters. I cannot forgive them for the country we now have.

The Green Party only garnered 0.4% of the national vote in 2024 (628,000 votes in total). It's the Democrats who stayed home and "sat this one out" that you have to blame.

R276, I wonder if the reason Trump dislikes Trudeau is because both Melania & Ivanka have made eyes at Justin in the past?

Wouldn't surprise me in the least, r386. That's the reptilian stimulus response level he operates on. He resents people who have or can attract what he wants. Springsteen has vigor and vitality. Taylor Swift is massively popular, probably the biggest current pop star and she rejected him publicly. So he puts out an AI music video of himself as a rock star and said we haven't heard from her since he announced he hates her. Hunter Biden has a publicly verified enormous penis (thanks Marge). And on and on. Of course, all of this is more on the surface due to his dementia.

Methinks you protest too much, R385. Jill Stein voters & too many disaffected Berniecrats, together, doomed Hillary, delivering us the country we now inhabit.

Don't get me started on fucking Bernie. Fucking asshole.

Tapper is a journalist who write about anything he chooses. If Biden had health issues covered up during his Presidency that's a big, important story. I can’t stand zealots who refuse to acknowledge anything negative. Can’t say anything bad about Harris or Biden because that helps Trump. Not really because living in fantasyland always hurts. It also makes the Dems seem as cultish as the MAGA idiots who kiss Trump’s butt.

R385: Jill Stein is a bogeywoman for those who can't accept that Clinton blew it, in the end couldn't seal the deal. Even Bill saw the election slipping away towards the end.

Defeat in 2016 was not an orphan. There were many authors, including Hillary, but that doesn’t excuse the many Democrats who either voted Green or sat out the election.

I put some blame on Maureen Dowd who was a huge Clinton hater and wrote a column right before the election saying Trump wasn’t that bad. Please Maureen repost that column for old times sake.

Don’t forget me!

And me, Supreme Evil Genius of World!

Maureen Dowd is a sad, bitter hag.