Gone With the Wind

The sequel to Gone With The Wind will be

Up In Smoke.

The Heritage Foundation is wearing Klan Black Widows' Weeds...

Salt the earth.

From an architectural standpoint it is a great loss. But at least people won't be able to stage weddings there anymore.

Question - how can a 160 year old mansion be considered antebellum? It can't. The oldest tree on the property is 162 years old, so it was built 1862-1863?

Antebellum means BEFORE the war. This one was built during it?

Bigger doesn't always mean better - no big loss. Another weird tribute to the evils of slavery is gone - who cares?

I think it's disgusting to have events or weddings at old slave plantations - making everyone drive out to the middle of nowhere just to be in a large plantation house? Why exactly?

Quite shocking. They didnt have adequate fire prevention?

Good news

It was built in 1859 so it counts as antebellum.

I'm crying as I type!

It does seem unfair they built it in 1859, then only had one year to really enjoy it before the Civil War broke out, right?

Quirky exterior but a great house. I stayed there in the early 1980s, as a guest of the Deases who restored and opened it as a sort of museum/hotel (we had a mutual friend and the Deases, serial owner-restorers, owned another big plantation house as their own house.)

It was a crazy huge place, not the loveliest but vast. The triple parlor with the white plaster works,woodwork, and painted floors always reminded me of the white bedroom in 2001: A Space Odyssey.

Another symbol of White Plantation Supremacy, gone with the smoke.

Good

R7 - ok - I stand corrected although they just squeaked into Antebellum.

"The home was a Greek Revival- and Italianate-styled mansion built by enslaved African-American laborers" - so that shit checks out. Look at why my slave people built for me! CHEAP, TOO! He probably had them doing double work - both in the fields and maintenance and then having to work on this monstrosity on top of it.

I know it's a part of US history - but to celebrate it by having corporate events and weddings there is just fucking gross. Does it even cross Southerners' minds?

It's only significance is being a slave farm built by slaves. It's a shameful part of our history - not something to be celebrated.

This was part of the Slave Carpentry Guild that taught slaves usable skills for an unanticipated Post-Civil War America?

It was beautiful.

It was a beautiful house and its sad to see it destroyed. I bet the slaves who built it werent happy to see their exquisite work go up in flames. Why not burn Mount Vernon and Monticello down too ?

My money is on arson by some crusading nutbag.

Everything’s hotter down south.

Bye, Felicia🔥

[quote] It was a beautiful house and its sad to see it destroyed. I bet the slaves who built it werent happy to see their exquisite work go up in flames.

Oh, I am concerned about their reaction when they hear the news! You should present the slaves with a tray of St Olaf Friendship cake to lessen the blow.

[quote]I bet the slaves who built it werent happy to see their exquisite work go up in flames

You think they'd be sad about the place where they were held captive, forced to work, beaten and raped burning down?

The Wind Done Gone.

R16 - why not burn down the homes of two of our very first Presidents?

Because they have historical value and relevancy to our nation - unlike this house of horrors built to show off the wealth of people who made it by making other human beings' lives hell on earth?

If they had corporate events and weddings there - obviously they had large industrial kitchens and all the hazards that go with that.

Can't help feeling the ick from these places.

Its funny but Ive actually toured several plantations over the years and I indeed found slavery loathsome and inhumane BUT that didnt affect how I felt about the beauty of the houses . Yes it happened,yes it was a stain on humanity but if we destroy everything that was built by ssystems that were unjust there'd be nothing left. For example the railroads were built at the expense of countless Chinese immigrants who were treated less than dogs .So I guess we should go tear up all the tracks they laid ? How about the subways in New York ? They were built mostly by Irish people,who couldnt even go into many places because of signs like "No dogs,no blacks,no Irish" . See my point ? Every race at some point or the other has been victimized and treated like shit by the powers that be (child labor anyone?) . According to the logic of the day,should all of the things they built be destroyed ?

I bet the catering kitchens are NOT in the house, though. I just cant believe it wasn't somewhat fireproofed

R24 - you're comparing apples to oranges. Railroads and subways are infrastructure - and not done by slave labor, regardless of how hard the work was or how unfairly almost all physical labor was treated in the 19th century. Before labor unions, most physical laborers took their lives in their own hands on a daily basis and were treated horribly and paid low wages. But they had their freedom to move on and many of them did successfully.

It's not that it's still standing (well, not any more) - my issues with it is that they hold corporate events and weddings there. Secondly, I watched a tour video on YouTube - the guide was obviously gay and actually did a really good job enunciating and speaking slowly - which is critical for foreign visitors.

Anyway - he glossed over the slavery aspect and said that there was a carrot and stick approach and that the owner took care of the slave families and gave them bonuses, blah, blah, blah. It really was shining up a turd and had the feeling of being gaslit and/or omitting a lot of relevant details about the 200 slaves that lived there. A variation of the 'happy and well cared for' slave narrative.

This place has no unique historical significance other than being a slave farm - albeit with a big house. To cry over its loss is stupid. To be proud of its history is also weird and unjust.

[quote]my issues with it is that they hold corporate events and weddings there.

Yes, if you're going to have a place like this open to the public, make it a museum like the one in the link.

And anyone suggesting the slaves at Nottaway were "well treated" should look into the history of sugar plantations.

[quote] Its funny but Ive actually toured several plantations over the years

Believe us, reading your post, we’re not surprised r24.

We were going to renew our wedding vows there!

AND R28 ? I like beautiful architecture . Why is that not surprising ? Because I think plantation houses are beautiful I condone slavery ? Get a fucking grip,dear . You're too old to be a SJW . Once one hits 50,younger people cease to see (or hear) one . Same as it ever was so save it.