Patty Duke Winning The Academy Award 1963

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Is Angel Lansbury Angela's illegitimate Puerto Rican son?

Angela looked "ruthless as Fuck"& I believe she wanted that Oscar!

She stole the movie in The Manchurian Candidate!!

The only two nominees present, Angela and Patty were the only ones who deserved a nomination

Angela Lansbury got unlucky with her timing here, and confessed her Oscar losses were terrible disappointments. I think she would have won in many years, but Patty Duke was also wonderful and deserving.

Angela had the last laugh. Patty got "Valley Of The Dolls" and mental problems- and she got a long and distinguished career in movies, stage and TV.

[quote]Sinatra makes a joke about Chakiris not being so tough- maybe he sucked Sinatra's cock during a gay tryst.

He was referring to his performance in WEST SIDE STORY, which inexplicably won him the Oscar the previous year.

Chakiris was not convincing at all as the leader of a Puerto Rican street gang.

That's because Miss Chakiris was a "FAGGOT"

A Pussy Boy Bottom Bitch, she was meant to serve the leader.

Patty Duke's dress was half finished. Ethel Ross, her handler and abuser, was too drunk to finish it, so the top is the inner lining while the bottom is a full gown.

And here she is, at another award ceremony, just seven years late.

I wonder if Patty’s asshole managers hadn’t cornered her into her TV show, albeit fondly remembered by some of that era’s viewers, if she’d have found momentum doing more follow-up memorable films and Broadway projects, instead of just “Billie,” “Dolls,” and then becoming a TV series guest and movies-of-the-week staple? She deserved that and I miss her.

Patty caught a break with the juvenile category being eliminated in 1961, it wasn’t awarded regularly but it was an excuse not to give the award to minors.

r12, I actually think Patty did pretty well, considering she was a remarkable child star who grew up not to be as striking as an adult actress as she was as a child (though she was usually decent, and sometimes very very good). But she wasn't pretty, and she didn't have a commanding presence, and she wasn't that good with comic timing. by the late 60s and early 70s, she was good at playing very ordinary young women in jeopardy. But then as she grew older she aged out of those roles, and there are far fewer roles for very ordinary middle-aged women in jeopardy.

Why'd they play the Mockingbird song. Did they think Mary Badham won or was that song somehow connected to the film?

that song was in The Miracle Worker.

Gee Thelma Ritter and Shirley Knight didn't even attend.

r15, "Listen to the Mockingbird" features into THE MIRACLE WORKER.

Sinatra makes a joke about Chakiris not being so tough-

Frank's joke is that George has a hard handgrip and Frank tries to save face from his pain.

I have to laugh that the camera tracks Patty's long walk to the stage for her just to say thank you and then she exits.

I always love Bosley Crowther's bizarre one-sentence review of Patty's performance in TMW in the NYTimes: "And little Miss Duke, in those moments when she frantically pantomimes her bewilderment and desperate groping, is both gruesome and pitiable."

R5 Actually, I think it was a very strong year for BSA. A case could easily be made for all but Mary Badham, whose entire performance had to be refunded because of her natural, but unintelligible southern accent. Her performance ultimately works, thanks to Kim Stanley’s off-screen work as adult, narrating Scout and Mulligan’s ability to get naturalistic work from all the children

Patty Duke Astin on What's My Line? @ 9:20 was a good mystery guest; she's funny and she stumped the panel

I have read that that year’s lead acting Oscars were considered unusually up-for-grabs with best actor between Jack Lemmon (the greenhouse scene, though I think the restrained final scene is the real gem), Peter O’Toole (great—but, at the time, is it all David Lean’s doing?) and Peck. Meanwhile, best actress was a four-way with Bancroft, Bette Davis, K. Hepburn and Geraldine Page all given a shot, and only Lee Remick (also excellent) out of the running. By contrast, the supporting awards were thought to be set in stone—Omar Sharif and Angela Lansbury. So, like another, more recent sure-thing Angela, it is no wonder Lansbury would still talk about her disappointment years later. (I feel both she and Sharif would have been strong winners, but Duke and Ed Begley were better still.)

Angela Lansbury should have won -- it was by far the most memorable role of those nominated in the Supporting Actress category that year. Luckily she would go on to have a huge career so it didn't hurt her. Meanwhile, Patty Duke is forgotten today.

[quote]R7 Angela had the last laugh. Patty got "Valley Of The Dolls" and mental problems- and she got a long and distinguished career in movies, stage and TV.

Your precious Angela also had to FLEE HOLLYWOOD when her kids started doing DRUGS at Spahn Ranch with the goddamn MANSON FAMILY!

I don’t think Patty Duke is forgotten by anyone who actually saw The Miracle Worker. (And who is or isn’t remembered 60 years later has more to do with overall careers than the two performances of 1962 that were under consideration.)

[Quote] don’t think Patty Duke is forgotten by anyone who actually saw The Miracle Worker.

Or by anyone who saw a Valley of the Dolls

LOVE Angie in "Manchurian Candidate." One reason that Lansbury got cast older all the time is because she LOOKED older. She's only 37 here! Luckily, the mega success of "Murder, She Wrote" made selective plastic surgery over the next 20 years a necessity...

Has George Chakiris ever come out of the closet?

[quote]Has George Chakiris ever come out of the closet?

No.

R22 is crazy—refunded? You don’t know what you’re talking about.

BTW, Badham was at the ceremony—poor camerawork failed to catch her.

[quote] "Listen to the Mockingbird" features into THE MIRACLE WORKER.

No it doesn't, r18.

[quote]Luckily she would go on to have a huge career so it didn't hurt her. Meanwhile, Patty Duke is forgotten today.

First, turn in your gay card because you don't know Valley of the Dolls.

Number two, Angela is remembered because of Murder She Wrote and maybe Beauty and the Beast. Her movie work and theater work is largely forgotten as well. (The only Mame that is talked about anymore is Lucy's).

[Quote] "Listen to the Mockingbird" features into THE MIRACLE WORKER.

[Quote] No it doesn't, [R18]

But Mockingbird does

Angela Lansbury became a national treasure in the U.S., which is in large part due to Beauty and the Beast and Murder, She Wrote it's a level of fame that transcends a particular show or role. Everybody loved her because she was Angela Lansbury, as such, her entire body of work is referenced in conversation to discuss her diversity as an actor including her early career supporting Oscar nominations, her stage success in Sweeney Todd and Mame, and The Manchurian Candidate because it was so antithetical to her beloved persona. It's the same with Maggie Smith who was a National Treasure in GB (and beloved in the U.S, as well), she's best remembered for Downton Abbey and Harry Potter but her fame goes beyond that and those roles are usually only conversation starters. Beloved figures like those two move past particular roles.

[quote]referenced in conversation to discuss her diversity as an actor including her early career supporting Oscar nominations, her stage success in Sweeney Todd and Mame

Yes, Mame and Sweeney Todd are all the rage at dinner parties everywhere! Especially among twenty and thirty year olds!

To R18, funny how I never made that connection, despite having seen both movies.

Near the end of The Miracle Worker, Annie sings "Mama's gonna by you a mockingbird" to Helen. Which is the song they played.

Mary Badham was nominated for To Kill a Mockingbird. So when she wasn't announced the winner, one watching could assume they were playing the wrong song when Patty got up to accept.

I think by the time Thelma Ritter did Birdman of Alcatraz she was a known familiar quantity, always brilliant and beloved as....Thelma Ritter. Had that been her first nomination, she might have even won that year.

No—they wouldn’t have played it if Mary had won. They would have played part of Elmer’s score, as they did for the three Oscars it did win.

The Miracle Worker has been performed yearly by High School and College Theatre programs for over 60 years, no one is going to forget Patty Duke and her performance in the film.

Arthur Penn told Patty to pretend she was constipated when she said “wa wa” after recognizing water.

She plenty of practice, playing it for several hundred performances on Broadway.

R38 no one assumed that except some dimwits here.

R22 are you trying to say Mary Badham was dubbed in To Kill a Mockingbird?

He’s an idiot.

If we give him any benefit of the doubt it is that he’s mixed up things. Her performance in the final Twilight Zone episode was partially dubbed by June Foray due to the fact that outdoor scenes had defective sound recording.

R44 Wasn't it Mercedes McCambridge?

No one was dubbed in that film.

Speaking of Alma Gluck...

Poor Patty. Worst stylist ever. Dressed her like a 40 year old miniature Joan Crawford.

The movie gave me the creeps when Patty spits out her eggs. I never got over it. I could not watch it again.