What are white South Africans ‘refugees’ in the United States escaping from?

They’re escaping from Seth!

The crime rate.

South Africa isnt exactly a safe place to be white.

Immigrants are not okay. Unless they are white and speak English apparently. This has Elon's name written all over it.

R4 This was for an audience of one.

The crime rate is very high in South Africa, and the economy is not great. But let's be honest...who does this affect? It affects the Black population more than the white minority..

Afrikaaners are not suffering persecution. They are not subjected to genocide. They were (and still are in many respects) beneficiaries of a system that kept the majority Black population in poverty, without recourse to equal opportunity, and without real representation. Blacks were persecuted under Apartheid. They were killed under Apartheid.

These South African white "refugees" simply do not wish to live under Black majority governance.

Exactly, they don’t like the fact they’re down to 7%. Used to be closer to 20% back in the 80s, I think.

Assume these are losers who couldn't make it in South Africa and now want to get out.

R8, the country is struggling economically.

As long as the male refugees bring their chiseled jawlines and ski-slope noses over with them, I'm okay with it.

Trump will produce a remake of "Out of Africa."

Australia and the UK have taken in large numbers of white South Africans. For the most part, they are well-educated and hard-working, and assimilate easily. I had a white South African lover once and he was great - rugged and classically handsome with a great big cock, also he was one of the most gentle lovers I ever had.

[quote]These South African white "refugees" simply do not wish to live under Black majority governance.

Would you want to, bitch?

How many gays have professed to want to leave the US because of Trump administration again? Even here and reddit, I have seen so many posts about gays fearing for their lives since Trump won. So, it's similar to that except that in South Africa, they have a major political party directly calling out "Kill the Boers" in their rallies. South Africa is a third world shithole compared to its past.

Also, I thought White people were foreign colonizers, right? So, they're leaving that country to the native Blacks basically. Isn't that what leftists have always wanted? So, why the tears?

Whose tears?

They feel vulnerable re: racial animosity and black-on-white violence, and there's some truth to it. Though it's hard to be sympathetic to the white descendants of African colonizers, many of whom are well off because of the apartheid system their white forebears enjoyed.

r14, then why are people persecuted for being say, gay, in african countries not allowed asylum in the US as easily? or say, from Kabul? Caracas?

It's only 60 people. If this makes you irrationally angry or happy you need to turn off your phone and take a walk in the garden.

This is what happens when you use the word genocide so casually. Anyone can use it for anything.

Minority rule.

Just like MAGA.

R17 What's your source for that? That the applications filed for persecution of sexual minorities is not easily accepted? I don't know how many assylum seekers apply for assylum to flee persecution specifically for being gay vs. fleeing persecution from the government in general.

Yes, to the people pretending not to know that this is meant as a symbolic victory for white supremacists, it is a relatively small number of people. That's the point. It's theatrics to show that all the babbling and blather and sobbing and howling about refugees and migrants and asylum and immigration generally isn't supposed to apply to white people, and especially to white supremacists.

They're all welcome as far as the Trump Cult is concerned. And the administration will go out of its way to get them here, inventing genocides and threats and needs and even sending a special plane just to get white supremacists into the country.

R10 is obviously unaware of the resting bitch face of one Elmo Musk.

Otherwise he wouldn't have made such a stupid statement.

R10's post was not stupid but light-hearted, a simple reminder that this is still mostly a gay male website. There's a certain look among Dutch-descended South Africans that he describes, possibly not unlike supervillain murderer Oscar Pistorius. Musk's 'look' is atypical in any case, in South Africa and elsewhere.

I knew a white SA who brought his family to the US because he said there are a lot of kidnappings in SA and it's not a safe place. Of course, he was a snobby asshole just like every white SA I've ever met.

I can’t imagine that every white South African is a raging asshole. Maybe some just happened to be born white in South Africa. In fact, in 1992, the referendum to end apartheid was open only to whites and they voted to end it, so……..You know, just like not every American is a MAGAt.

MAGAt thread.

[quote]MAGAt thread

The article is from the well-respected, impeccably left-of-center Spanish El Pais outlet. The replies cover everything from "rugged and classically handsome South African lovers" to the repellent looks of Elon Musk. There might just be one MAGAt in the mix, though.

I was on DL at the time of the Oscar Pistorius "culpable homocide" trial in 2014. He was the most lusted-after guy on this site for several months, hands down. His "Momma's quivering mussy" type fans were positively obsessed.

R29, I hope DLers properly cut off those obsessive posters at the knees.

Let me clarify r20...

Majority rule by minorities.

Just like MAGA.

[quote] How many gays have professed to want to leave the US because of Trump administration again? Even here and reddit, I have seen so many posts about gays fearing for their lives since Trump won. So, it's similar to that except that in South Africa, they have a major political party directly calling out "Kill the Boers" in their rallies. South Africa is a third world shithole compared to its past.

Many of us would like to leave. That doesn’t mean we expect asylum from another country. The supposed inconsistency exists only in your tiny little mind.

r32 Fleeing from a direct threat of violence from a government is not the same as a hysterical tantrum because your desired candidate lost in the election.

R32. You referenced my post even though your response has nothing to do with it. Can you please correct the reference? Thanks.

Sorry.—-I also mis-referenced.! It’S R33 that mistakenly responded to R32 with a totally irrelevant response.

r35 I am the same poster at R14 that you quoted. It was not by mistake. Anybody can respond to any post they want in here.

What a joke.

R33 belongs in CECOT, along with his convicted felon idol, Donald trump.

Lock the bitches up and throw away the key.

R33 belongs in CECOT, along with his convicted felon idol, Donald trump.

Lock the bitches up and throw away the key.

While they go to CECOT, I’ll celebrate at EPCOT!

Why are so many DLers afraid to admit their racist tendencies?

R35. I assume, of course , that you probably Intended to reference my post and that you breathtaking non sequitur was due to your illiteracy and overwhelming vileness, but wanted to confirm. Yes, anyone can post here, but, if you are functionally illiterate, you probably should not.

He’s facilitating state sanctioned white flight from a sovereign country.

The worst restaurant I ever frequented was run by a bunch of shiftless South Africans. Their clientele was elderly, and later they opened a BBQ place and advertised it as “the softest barbecue you ever had”!

White Afrikaner brought to US by Trump administration has history of antisemitic posts

Charl Kleinhaus confirms he owns account that contained posts, as White House uses antisemitism as rationale for deportations

Remember folks 7% of one country, that’s who their fighting for.

They’re*

When it all winds up at the end, all of the signs will be obvious and our attempts to convince ourselves what we were witnessing wasn’t actually what was happening will seem very lame. “Those really weren’t Nazi salutes…” “They weren’t really importing white people and exporting brown people.” Make America Great Again is make America white again. And even large swaths of minorities in various groups are more comfortable with a white American, white rule.

[quote]South Africa isnt exactly a safe place to be white.

Gee, I wonder why...

Why, because like in the South after the war, blacks did not kill their oppressors.

"It's only 60 people. If this makes you irrationally angry or happy you need to turn off your phone and take a walk in the garden."

This as R18 said. Ridiculous that Trump said he is taking in these refugees and equally ridiculous that anyone else acknowledges this as taking in refugees. 60 people at the most! That's more like taking in an extended family. Taking in refugees usually means 10s of thousands if not 100s of thousands of people. Some stupid shit!

R51. To address the various pieces of stupidity separately. First, 59 is the number who arrived in the first intake. So, I’m not sure what, other than stupidity, would make the number 60 relevant. Second, the idea that the anger has overtaken our ability to function seems to be the product of someone’s stupid imagination. What is the evidence fir this claim? Third, being angry at this racial favoritism is not necessarily irrational to someone who is not stupid. Fourth, it is perfectly reasonable for people who are not stupid to object to unjust or irrational policies even if that has limited application.

There is no evidence of genocide. But there is ample evidence from the historical record of the afrikaners doing so

It is complicated. It’s true that apartheid was terrible. It’s also true that apartheid allowed South Africa to develop economically. When I was there 20 years ago, I was shocked at how first world the infrastructure was.

Too bad everyone can’t just get along.

Africa for Africans.

Europe for Europeans.

Pastor Manning talking about South Africa under black rule at 2:20.

Thank you for telling the truth.

it's complicated, but trump is making it more so

What’s funny is that Grok, Elon’s AI thing, is being told to mention the white genocide on X but it’s pushing back.

Trump is evacuating the Plantation Owners.

R56 Oh yes. Pastor Manning is quite the truth teller. He says Starbucks will be ground zero for ebola because of all the gays there and the semen they flavor the coffee with. He's openly in favor of death by stoning for gays and warns that gay white men are coming to take all the Black men from Black women. He's a complete nutter.