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Why do so many trans men come out looking like lesbians?

They are all over Grindr these days, and while a small number of them can pass, the rest of them couldn’t pass a kidney stone. Their entire look, from the baby dyke face to the childbearing hips, screams woman.

Elliot page is a perfect example of this. Did the doctor treating them just not get the hormones right? Or did they not get the right plastic surgeon? What went wrong?

by Anonymousreply 22May 15, 2025 6:59 AM

It's those female born traits of child bearing hips

by Anonymousreply 1May 14, 2025 6:58 AM

Most of them [italic]are[/italic] lesbians. Women "transitioning" is contemporary gay conversion therapy. Butch women are being replaced with trans "men".

The straight ones are either sexually abused as children, don't want to have deal with negative attention from men (or think being male will make their lives easier) heavily into yaoi, attention seekers or all of the above.

Trans stuff is ass backward and regressive. It's based on sex stereotypes.

by Anonymousreply 2May 14, 2025 8:40 AM

Also 98% of trans "women" cannot pass.

by Anonymousreply 3May 14, 2025 8:42 AM

What these people really want is to be non-binary. To fully commit to a sex depresses them.

by Anonymousreply 4May 14, 2025 8:45 AM

R2, R3 My niece that is now my nephew is one. She went through an intermediary "non-binary" stage. Pronouns were initially them/they bullshit and are now he/him or them/they. Oddly, "he" wasn't the slightest bit gender discordant until college when this all started. Now breast have been removed and has a few whiskers and a frog-like voice from cross-hormones. Really tragic. I honestly don't know what happened all of the sudden.

by Anonymousreply 5May 14, 2025 9:02 AM

A dyke by any other name is still a dyke. Even when she chops her off.

by Anonymousreply 6May 14, 2025 9:27 AM

r5 it's also a fad, a social contagion. So many people will regret what they did or were cohersed into doing to their bodies and minds, not to mention the physical damage unescessary cross sex hormones do.

by Anonymousreply 7May 14, 2025 9:45 AM

One of the most beautiful moments in recent years was when the actor Elliot Page transitioned to male and thereby became a beacon of hope for humanity and an icon for the social justice movement. At the same time, now that Page is a straight man he is officially an oppressor and deserves nothing but our contempt.

This goes to show that the struggle for LGBTQIA+ rights is fraught with complications. But just because a movement is self-contradictory and incoherent, that doesn’t make it wrong. In fact, the very notion of “queerness” means to disrupt existing narratives. So the more deranged an idea sounds, the more likely it is to be progressive.

Let’s take the problem of heterosexuality. Firstly, it is important to emphasise that it is insufficient to not be homophobic; one must be actively anti-homophobic. Heterosexual sex is an act of discursive violence against the LGBTQIA+ community. Therefore, if straight people want to prove that they are allies, they must have sex with gays.

However, this does create further difficulties. The concepts of “same-sex attraction” and “opposite-sex attraction” are inherently transphobic. They are based on the offensive premise that there are only two sexes, when of course there are literally millions. For instance, out of the twelve members of my fortnightly tantric ecofeminist drum circle, over forty different sexes are represented. Vibrational therapy has never been so inclusive.

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by Anonymousreply 8May 14, 2025 12:07 PM

R7 I completely agree. The massive increase, especially in girls/young women, that are seeking gender reassignment is staggering. The Tavistock Gender Identity Development Service saw a 5,000% increase in F2M over a 7 year period. If we had seen an increase in anything else to this degree there would be a demand to determine cause. Imagine seeing a 5,000% increase in autism, epilepsy or cancer in a segment of the population in just 7 years. People would be panicking.

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by Anonymousreply 9May 14, 2025 12:13 PM

I was just looking through some old photos and thinking about this. There used to be a well known "lane" for butch women whose energy seemed quite masc but they retained a female identity and kept their bodies intact.

Today just like R9's long post suggests... it may be the case that a young girl who feels 'masc' and 'boylike' on the inside is ushered swiftly down an "Oh, you're trans and you want to be male" lane. And before you know it, she's the neice-turned-nephew as described in R5. Whereas a few decades ago, maybe she'd have grown up and existed as a butch dyke.

by Anonymousreply 10May 14, 2025 12:21 PM

I don't know what in the hell happened with my post!! I attached a link as usual and it seems to have posted the entire article.

by Anonymousreply 11May 14, 2025 12:27 PM

half assed observation, and kind of trolling by OP.

Elliot page has Peter Pan syndrome in addition to being trans. She wanted to turn into a forever young skater boy. He can now cosplay this look somewhat enough to please himself in the mirror. He never wants to get old. Fat, he doesn't want to be a manly man. He wants to be an ephebe 20 yo skater forever.

by Anonymousreply 12May 14, 2025 12:31 PM

Obviously because the male bone structure, at least in the vast majority of cases, does not lend itself to being tarted up to look 100% feminine.

by Anonymousreply 13May 14, 2025 12:41 PM

[quote]And before you know it, she's the neice-turned-nephew as described in [R5]. Whereas a few decades ago, maybe she'd have grown up and existed as a butch dyke.

And Jo March grew up to be a perfectly contented wife and mother.

Or did she?

by Anonymousreply 14May 14, 2025 12:58 PM

R5- What this means is that we are now treating CRAZY 😜 people as non crazy.

by Anonymousreply 15May 14, 2025 1:01 PM

I'm not familiar with that site linked at R8 but two tags on the article are Humor and Satire; so that's what I'm going with. Here's more quotes:

"Some of the bravest lesbians I know are extremely well hung. In fact, it would be more enlightened to think of penises as upgraded vaginas."

"The very idea that gay men looking for sex with other gay men wouldn’t be interested in vaginas makes absolutely no sense whatsoever."

"Given that most gay people support equal rights for minorities, they will surely be grateful once we have eliminated homosexuality once and for all."

This has to be mocking the extremes of gender politics knowing that those extremists will take the bait with a standing ovation? That's what clever satire can do.

If it isn't satire... then what? The real minority must be the people taking this seriously.

by Anonymousreply 16May 14, 2025 3:53 PM

R16 - I had to double-check too - it's a parody account by an Irish comedian.

The fact that I had to look this up because I half-believed some one could write this shows where we are at.

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by Anonymousreply 17May 14, 2025 4:09 PM

Oops, me bad. Especially since I follow Sp!ked where Andrew Doyle is regular contributor.

by Anonymousreply 18May 14, 2025 4:17 PM

Because they're women.

by Anonymousreply 19May 15, 2025 5:34 AM

You have a surprising amount of anger towards a tiny group of people who have done nothing to hurt you and are not impacting your life, r7.

Do you realize that the politicians who share your views on trans people would happily see you fired and evicted for being a lesbian? Keep punching down and keep pulling up that ladder, idiot.

by Anonymousreply 20May 15, 2025 5:40 AM

r20 Seethe and dilate, Tranpa.

by Anonymousreply 21May 15, 2025 6:14 AM

R8

[quote]So the more deranged an idea sounds, the more likely it is to be progressive.

Man is that the understatement of the millennium. Child transitions, anyone?

by Anonymousreply 22May 15, 2025 6:59 AM
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