Why won't Cher help her son? What a bitch.

Poor guy.

Maybe he's burned his bridges with her? 🤷‍♀️

He looks like a fat, younger Eric Clapton.

Yikes—by the looks of that photo, he's about to stumble back into the Chateau to OD at any moment.

He was a very good-looking guy at one time.

What do you expect Cher to do, OP? Her son is a grown man pushing 50.

Elijah's wife (maybe ex-wife now) accused Cher of trying to kidnap him a few years back because Cher was reportedly trying to have him put into a conservatorship because of his mental health illness and drug abuse. I presume she was hoping to keep him from blowing all his money on drugs. Elijah pushed back and Cher dropped her pursuit. He can live on the streets like James Brolin's other son Jess.

Spoken like someone who has never tried to help somebody get clean.

This mess and “Chas” are a real testament to the Cher Parenting Method.

What in the spice?

DL is such a great source of these cautionary tales involving celebrity kids. Just wow.

He sure has blown up in the past year.

And can't you smoke in the Chateau Marmont now? What is the world coming to?

He looks very much like his dad in that picture. And apparently he is very much like his dad.

This is sad & it isn't going to end well and while she was probably never Mother of the Year, she's clearly used her resource to at least keep in from living off the streets

R11 Not even Dunhills in the square box?

OP = Elijah's desperate girlfriend.

wow does he look strung out

The Daily Mail's headline of this story reads, "Cher's sweat-stained zombie son". Classic bitchy Mail.

Cher has tried for years to help her son get clean. One of the most heartbreaking things for a parent is to realize that there's only so much they can do and that sometimes they simply have to walk away.

Kids. What can you do?

The holidays are the hardest r18

Of hes staying at that hotel (is he vacationing or living?) either way its not too shoddy. Many people had dead beat parents but they get on with life. Cher may eventually stopped enabling him and is trying tough love.( But im someone successful whos dad was so uninterested, never visited any school i went to and even said he never lijed me; and a mom who was so on the edge, u darent tell her any problems u had, as she made it worse, they certainly wouldnt have helped me if i was a deadbeat).

Right. And when Cher tries to help Elijah, she gets called a control freak. Elijah and his then-wife fought against a conservatorship and this is where it's at...

Did you all fall for OP's bitchy dead-pan troll? Talk about projection, OP.

Cher took this to court. Zombie Elijah and the creepy wife won.

And yes, she did try to force him into treatment aka "kidnapping him".

The money he lives on comes from a trust set up by his father. Not from his mother.

Her best hope is that he ODs and winds up in the hospital. Once he's in it's much easier to keep him there.

What r22 said.

My addict's heart goes out to any addict who is still suffering.

Cher took this as far as she legally could to try to help her adult son.

I know from personal experience that I didn't WANT help, much less followed through on getting it, until I was facing 2 deaths- 1. alive and dead drunk and 2. dead.

What a heartache for all parents having to worry, wait, hope, and then perpetually being on alert for that phone call....

[quote]What a bitch.

No, she's probably done everything she can and is going through hell worrying.

She attempted to have him kidnapped two years ago and put in a clinic. Where the fuck have you been, OP!?

He's been in the basement trolling trolling trolling, r26. Thinks his cunting snark is witty gay repartee.

She tried. She failed. He doesn't want the help he needs.

You have to let them go.

Just as OP's mother let him go when she realized what a cunt she was.

Op why disrespect Cher like that. Trolling ass cunt.

At least I shower and I don't look like a beached whale. Leave me alone!!

He needs to hook up with Carol Burnets grandson and have a reality show.

Dead man walking.

[qupte] Why won't Cher help her son?

Seems like she tried many times. He doesn't want help. Addicts need to want to get better.

[quote] Kids. What can you do?

My kids are fine, Cyndi.

ABORT ABORT ABORT!

CHUCK IT DOWN THE PAN!

I used to think to myself, "If my life wasn't so fucked up, I wouldn't have to do all these drugs!"

Little did I know that it was all the drugs that were making my life so fucked up in the first place.

It's not Cher's fault -- we all know whose genes he inherited. I hope he finds some peace.

If Elijah is really breaking up with the freaky wife he'll be losing his enabler.

This could be a big advantage to getting him into treatment.

It must be hard to have children that are wayward and confused in adulthood...

R37 I applaud you for your 40+ plus year sobriety. You mind if I ask what was your vice of habit?

He’s okay…he’s doing fine.

Nature>Nurture Trash genes yield trash children.

Dating and shopping were always more important to Cher than parenting. Which is why her kids are both a tragedy and voluntarily estranged from her.

[quote] My addict's heart goes out to any addict who is still suffering. Cher took this as far as she legally could to try to help her adult son. I know from personal experience that I didn't WANT help, much less followed through on getting it, until I was facing 2 deaths- 1. alive and dead drunk and 2. dead. What a heartache for all parents having to worry, wait, hope, and then perpetually being on alert for that phone call....

Della dear, thank you for sharing your story and I quite agree. I am another who came from a drunk/drugging family and learned how to abuse everything at an early age. I thought I was doing quite well covering it up until everyone I knew complained about my substance abuse. I had several interventions, but was convinced I could handle myself... until I couldn't.

It wasn't until I was so far down that I couldn't find any way to get up and out of it. Then, I understood what the old AA phrase "Let GO and let GOD" really meant. Perhaps, it was just resigning to a higher power than myself to help me. Nevertheless, I found my way out of my mess and now realize I cannot casually drink or drug... I just don't have the constitution for it physically or mentally~ so I must abstain. Once I really understood what that meant I found a way to claw myself into sobriety and lead life in a new way that I enjoy.

Of course, none of what I say helps a using addict, so I can only wait until they receive their enlightenment and offer help when they are ready and ask for it. Sadly, many die before they get that far and Cher must realize by now that Elijah Blue may be one of them.

[quote]She attempted to have him kidnapped two years ago and put in a clinic.

I warned her about half measures but she refused to listen.

Not specifically directed to Cher & her situation with her Elijah, but generally directed toward the celebrities who seemingly have it completely pulled tightly together because of large successes that have provided career longevity & public adoration. Ultimately, no matter how generous they may seem on the outside, celebrities are selfish people, and at toxic levels. Even people mentioned in this tread who seem so kind, concerned & altruistic have truly fucked up kids, offsprings who've been the victims of neglectful, delegated, absentee & materially supplemented parenting by purely self-interested parents. Carol Burnett, who I'm sure is a wonderful person professionally, has 2 daughters who fell prey to drug addiction. Cyndi Lauper's son has proven to be a substance addicted delinquent. Spielberg has a daughter who proclaimed her foray into porn as a legit career move. (Argue all you want, but exploiting your own sexual intimacy for strangers realistically is not a sign of healthy mental fortitude.) Ryan O'Neil's kids publicslly suffered the consequences of addition. The list goes on & on. So sure, even ordinary parents have children who experience these same types of challenges, but I wonder how many of the children of celebrities would have been spared such miserable fates without the involvement/influence of self-centered, narcissistic parents.

Cher seems histrionic but not narcissistic.

She should never have given birth to him, for his sake. He was doomed.

[quote]suffered the consequences of addition

It is every parent's worst nightmare.

Too late, Patsy at R36.

Now all there is to do is WALK AWAY AND CHANGE THE LOCKS.

It seems like Cher has tried, but he's a legal adult who has apparently been deemed competent to handle his own affairs.

She cannot DO anything. Handing him money is just enabling him and a complete waste.

You cannot "help" someone who won't help themselves.

Thank you, Tallulah, dear.

I'm better-off today by your service work in posting at r44.

"It's better for me to want what I have than have what I want."

Cher's children = shitty messes, walking miscarriages & stupid, entitled cunts.

[quote]It's not Cher's fault -- we all know whose genes he inherited.

Well, yes, but maybe it was unwise to fall for (and have a child with) a notorious addict. (See also Melissa Etheridge.)

As long as he has the funds to hang out at places like the Chateau Marmont, he'll never hit rock bottom.

Once he starts hanging out at skid row flop houses downtown, then maybe he'll get the help he so desperately needs.

It's wild when these celebs try to help their kids when they're in their 30s and 40s when everyone knows their fucked up upbringing is what made them that way.

I am hearing Ozempic can help the alcoholic

Kidnap him and lock him in a detox center.

I trust Cher in all things.

[quote]but generally directed toward the celebrities who seemingly have it completely pulled tightly together because of large successes that have provided career longevity & public adoration. Ultimately, no matter how generous they may seem on the outside, celebrities are selfish people, and at toxic levels

What's interesting is that a lot of the biggest divas, and the ones who have had some of the worst reputations in the industry seemed to have raised some the most well adjusted celebrity kids.

You never hear of Jason Gould getting into any trouble. Diana's kids are close and have a good relationship with her. Mariah's kids aren't wilding out. Bette's daughter lives a low-key married life. Madonna's kids aren't plastered all over the tabloids. Even Faye Dunaway's son is low key and stays out of trouble.

I don't doubt that Cher is a loving mother, but she had Elijah out on the road touring with her as her guitarist when he was 13.

I don't think Greg Allman's genes are completely to blame in all of this.

Is he wearing a camisole underneath that ratty t-shirt in the picture at R1?

R61 Great life for a kid.

[quote]One of the most heartbreaking things for a parent is to realize that there's only so much they can do and that sometimes they simply have to walk away.

Because you didn't to your job when they were young is more like it.

Is he wearing a ladies blouse and tank top? Also those shoes look like old lady comfort shoes.

R40, it's an interesting question for me to answer.

My favorite drug was heroin, which was cheap and very pure when I was stationed in Germany. But I didn't shoot it all the time. I shot it for two or three days, and when I started to get a little sick from the lack of it, I'd take something else -- usually Mandraxx, a Quaalude equivalent, which was sold over the counter in Germany.

I shot speed, took acid, snorted cocaine. I smoked hash in Germany, and I smoked pot every minute of the day I wasn't working when I got back to the U.S. I quit smoking cigarettes because I chain-smoked joints. And you absolutely will feel withdrawal symptoms from pot when you quit after smoking it like that. When I quit, I didn't sleep for three weeks.

And of course, as a last resort when there weren't any [italic]good[/italic] drugs around, I drank. Bourbon. But not for long. I could always find drugs somewhere if I looked hard enough.

I thought I had it all under control (seriously!) because I didn't use the same drug all the time. It took me awhile to realize that I was high from the time I woke up until the time I passed out at night.

A long answer, I know, R40. But yeah, it was serious enough that I got clean/sober at 22 and have been that way ever since. I left AA and all its cult craziness behind after 22 years of meetings, but AA was necessary for me for the first 10 years or so, and I was grateful to have it. Thanks for asking.

R64 Sometimes. Sometimes not.

My brother and I were raised by the same parents. I never got into drinking or drugs, but my brother became a mess in his 20s and still hasn't cleaned up 40 years later. It's not always mom and dad's fault.

Cher's son is a tranny, too?

I like blue

Sadly there are times when some people are simply beyond help and you have to pull back and let the natural course of events take over. You can not destroy yourself to save another who clearly doesn't want help.

Elijah should be added to the thread about women getting their nails done. In the depths of addiction he at least has one acrylic hanging on for dear life.

He's a repulsive mess but I still see Gregg Allman and some traces of handsomeness. He's thrown his life away.

If we had a decent courts system he would have been committed to in-patient treatment long ago. From the looks of things he probably needs at least a year of in-patient treatment.

R71 = “Flashdance” realness!

From a 2024 article. Cher, should try again.

Cher has failed in her attempt to take control of her adult son's finances through an emergency conservatorship after a court in Los Angeles ruled there was not sufficient evidence of his alleged drug abuse.

A spokesperson for Los Angeles County Superior Court confirmed Monday night that the court had ruled in favor of Elijah Blue Allman, 47, who was resisting the order and argued that he is now drug-free.

Elijah's nearly 50 and has been a fuck up his whole life. There are a lot of younger middle-aged substance abusers in this country right now. And a lot of parents letting their adult kids move back in or raising their grandchildren. I see that in the small Upper MI town I live in. In Elijah's case, his father had little to do with his upbringing and a mother who had to work. Elijah's an addict and has been since his teen years. It's on him, not his famous parents.

Is he in John Belushi’s room?

I have been sober for 17 years and had deeply abusive narc mom and a workaholic /alcoholic dad. My dad loved me deeply but he had had no idea how to parent a child who had been traumatized by their psycho mother. I drank to deal with the pain. Addiction is not excuse for bad behaviour but it is a reason.

In the end though you *must* take responsibility for your own behaviour. Cher was by her own account - obsessed with work and she sent Elijah to boarding school when he was really young. His dad was not a part of his childhood at all.

She may having caused him pain but she is not responsible for his addiction. The man is almost 50. Give me a break. He looks like he is at the point of end stage addiction. Incredibly sad all around.

The toy boy will be rubbing his hands at the thought of an Elijah RIP, more cash for him!!

Addictions are bitch. Poor guy. Hope he can make it out and become sober

When the Baldwin clan comes across social media, I wonder how those kids will fare. I have a feeling we will be seeing them getting into all kinds of trouble in the next 10 years

[quote]Kidnap him and lock him in a detox center

He'd relapse the microsecond he got out. Like others have said, he has to hit true rock bottom - homeless and alone in Skid Row like the rest of severely addicted Angelenos - and WANT to get better on his own.

A 32 year old cousin went from being a chain smoker in high school to a meth and crack addict. His parents don't give him money. However they never gave him boundaries or rules (a requirement for any Taurean, because we are beyond willful).

His Aquarian younger brother respects his parents, is easygoing, successful, and knows his limits to drugs and alcohol.

His brother will not live to be an old man.

R60, rich people do not raise their kids.

If he has mental health issues then that’s a whole other ball of wax. He could be using to self medicate.

None of us have any idea what he’s been through. Too much judgement on this thread because it involves a celebrity. People need to learn to separate the public image from the private.

The Baldwin children and the Kardahian/West children are completely fucked. It is evident now. Imagine ten years from now...

r82 Some do. As much as I dislike her for associating with shit like Alok, Jodie Foster was and most likely still is an involved hands-on mum. I remember her saying how taken aback she was at other wealthy parents not even giving their kids baths.

Diana Ross is the same.

[quote] In Elijah's case, his father had little to do with his upbringing and a mother who had to work.

"had to work"?

No, Cher was quite wealthy by the time she had Elijah Blue. She [italic]chose[/italic] to continue working, which is of course absolutely her right (and the right of any wealthy parent). But it is incorrect to say she HAD to work.

He's 48. Time to let him stand or fall on his own.

Streisand also has a fat, slovenly, probably homeless (step)-son wandering around the Los Angeles area.

Thankfully, neither of Cher’s unfortunate spawn have procreated, thus preventing her horrific genes from infecting future generations.

What a shame they're not well-adjusted, contributing members of society, like me.

R90 That is just his fashion steez. So he likes to dress like a runway drag queen. How exactly is he not a well adjusted contributing member of society. Oh that’s right because how he dresses. Btw I don’t know that he is a well adjusted contributing member of society. I would presume so you never hear about him being arrested, in/out rehab, bar fights. Did someone mention him or suntin’. What does he have to do with Cher?

^^^^ I don't think Chaz was arrested or involved in bar fights etc., was he/they?

R92 I don’t know but I’m still lost as to the EJ reference. Maybe I should scroll up and real ALL the comments. EJ Johnson is not transgender. He is just highly effeminate and styles himself like a woman or trans woman would. Sometimes he will walk around in regular sweatpants or whatever but best believe if it’s an event, he will be styled like a WNBA player meets Paris Fashion week.

Magic never tried to put his kid in ex gay therapy like Cher tried with Chaz. Cher also hit the roof when Chastity came out.

[quote]In the depths of addiction he at least has one acrylic hanging on for dear life.

Isn't that just a coke nail?

I'm with R91 here, EJ just likes to dress up, big deal. People can wear what they want. I personally think EJ's a lot braver than men who claim they have lady feelz.

R94 They just that use “gay conversion camp” as an umbrella term. Chaz was born in the 60s. Cher wasn’t against gay rights but wanting to change your sex was not fully understood. Anybody could make that mistake as a parent. To think you were born in the wrong body. Come on now. We all raise our kids with self love. You would think you failed as a parent . Back then I’m saying.

R96 right. It takes one helluva man to walk around in 6 inch stilettos and still say I’m a man, not binary, not transgender. Especially because he doesn’t dress like that all the time.

Poor Chee.

EJ is gender fluid and rigidly so. He can be whatever he wants but making a big part of your life as a man dressing like an arty rich woman is an odd choice if one is not a transvestite, in the old fashioned way. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. He's a cross-dresser.

R97 This is when Chastity came out as a lesbian. Sonny Bono was supportive, Cher had a fit and threw her out of the house. Then she wanted her to go to ex gay therapy.

Reality show. Him James Brolins son and Jerry Lewis daughter Hollywood homeless am I missing anyone?

That’s her ex-husband, R88.

My god his fingers are caked with nicotine ! How fucking gross . Leave EJ alone . He isnt bothering a soul,or running around acting like a lunatic . Thanks to his dad EJ will have "Fuck you" money all his life . Hell,hes been wealthy all his life . Yet unlike so many other celebrity kids he isnt a drug addicted mess. I firmly believe had they all not been wealthy and probably indulged all their lives most of them may not have turned out so fucked up.

[quote]Isn't that just a coke nail?

A coke nail is just an untrimmed nail, usually the pinky nail. Cab drivers always have them.

That’s like some kind of drag queen-esque show-nail.

Cher and Chaz didn’t talk for like a week after she came out and she never tried to put her in “conversion therapy”. Cher herself said she reacted badly and it was out of embarrassment because everyone knew before she did. Chaz was somewhat estranged from Sonny when he died because he of his support of a gay marriage ban.

[quote]Yet unlike so many other celebrity kids he isnt a drug addicted mess.

Are we still talking about Elijah Blue Altman? Because the article at OP indicates that yes, he very much is a drug-addicted mess.

[quote]r5 What do you expect Cher to do, OP? Her son is a grown man pushing 50.

Still, Cherilyn is jealous of his youth. And so will not lift a finger. Not even a referral to work in Barbra's mall.

Its TEAFAKE defending cross dresser EJ again non existent attacks.

He probably hasn't hit rock bottom yet

James Brolin's son at least looks clean

Cher's son is filthy (look at his armpit)

Elijah looked fine only 14 months ago. What a crash.

[quote]EJ just likes to dress up, big deal

Does EJ have a job? What exactly is he contributing to society?

Seriously, why can’t Elijah and Justin Brolin work in Barbra’s goddamn mall? The place practically runs itself now, with Jason doing the scheduling and inventory from home most days, and Roslyn handling the bookkeeping. Just let those other two losers empty the trash and polish the wall sconces or something.

It could be “a bridge back” and the responsibility would be good for them.

^^ sorry, JESS Brolin…. not Justin[bold] : (

I wonder if the root of his trauma was seeing his dad try to impersonate Clark Gable in a bad movie.

That could be very disorienting.

Why can’t he behave himself like Chaz?

[quote]Does EJ have a job? What exactly is he contributing to society?

He contributes to the economy by shopping.

Why do you care, anyway?

He's probably going crazy waiting for her to die. Most rockers don't live past 75.

Buck would have never walked out of the Chateau Marmont looking like that.

You can't help someone who doesn't admit they have a problem

Is R104 paying attention to the subject of this entire thread?

Why do some junkies still look good and other look like this or that Davis guy who had an open sore and was fat

I think he must have other health issues going on as well. Look at his ankles. They are swollen and the skin is tight and shiny. Must be some kind of fluid retention.

^ Drugs and booze can cause that

So, ya come craaaaawlin’ back to Barbra’s mall. Well, Barbra’s mall don’t go fer BOOZE an’ DOPE!

Jason Gould hasn't gotten into trouble because he doesn't do ANYTHING.

R126 If I had a generous gazillionaire mother neither would I ! Hate the game,not the player.

I have fantasies that Jason and Roslyn meet for secret lunches once a month, and charge it all to his “for emergencies” card. Then they rent roller skates or go to an amusement park, laughing about crazy Babs.

I’m sure Cher is still supporting both of the them.

My Jason's a good boy.

BTW, Gregg Allman went to rehab 11 times before finally giving up drinking at around 50. And had 20 sober years out of his chaotic life. Maybe there's hope for Elijah, but probably not...

he od'd in joshua tree per tmz

Maybe this will be his rock bottom.

Sounds like Cher's making sure he gets the care he needs.

Maybe with his share of her will- I can buy a penis?

Bobby Cannavale cared enough to put his drug addict son into a conservatorship. I think Cher tried but didn't succeed.

I was surprised to read that it's a trust found Greg Allman set up for him that he lives off of not Cher's money.

Yeah, I recall some articles about her attempting and the girlfriend bitching about it. She dropped it or it was struck down...thought that was last year sometime.

R133 your link is stinky so I’m posting one from Page 6.

Drug addicts like Jake Cannavale and Elijah Blue Allman need to be kept under lock and key for their own good.

Cher’s pussy and her pocketbook have always been her primary concerns. Her kids were always far down the list.

And this is the result.

I was surprised that Gregg Allman had the kind of money to be setting up trust funds. He had 7 wives and 5 kids.

r140 - really? How do you know this?

Gram Parsons died of an OD in Joshua Tree and also lived for a while at the Chateau Marmont. I wonder if Elijah is a fan.

He needs bed restraints! Then I can always help to unlock him in the mornings following my facial ice-bath.

[quote]r140 Cher’s pussy and her pocketbook have always been her primary concerns. Her kids were always far down the list. And this is the result.

Well, it's the same old story, isn't it? This always happens when women try to mix motherhood with working.[italic] "Movie Star Manages to Have It All: Career, Home, and Family" [/italic]is something you hear far too seldom, IMHO.

I didn’t always have support from mom, but didn’t turn into that.

But is it the fact the parents were working and gone or is it the fame that the children realize they’ll never have?

Jake Cannavale's unraveling reported here, with pics.

Thankfully neither of Cher’s very troubled children have procreated and spread her awful genes to another generation of victims.

Don't speak so soon

I have never understood the gay love for Cher. She treated Chaz like shit when she initially came out as a lesbian. Sonny was reportedly far more sensitive and understanding.

She seems like an awful, selfish bitch. When both of your kids are this troubled, what’s the common denominator?

Cher.

Bobby Cannavale isn't much better than Cher in the parenting department, it seems.

I will definitely read Chaz’s tell all once Cher kicks the bucket.

He’s going to blow the lid off her bullshit.

He seems very shrewd and Cher likely knows Chaz has all the weaponry to blow her phony image into smithereens.

[quote]I have never understood the gay love for Cher.

And, she's a lousy singer.

When she should have been baking cookies and helping with homework, Cher was blowing Val Kilmer and Tom Cruise. That was her priority.

She should have had her tubes tied at 18 and spared two innocent children her negligent parenting.

Tom Cruise, R155??!! I think not.

[quote] Tom Cruise, [R155]??!! I think not.

Think again, dum dum.

Because Cher would never lie about fucking Miss Tammy Cruise, right, gullible R157?

This not new news, moron R158. This has been well known for decades.

Go play with your Cher Barbie.

I’m so over that ‘’Cher’’ way too much deference over the decades.

R159=Miss Tammy Cruise

The “Mommie Dearest” Cher books will be delicious.

Narcissistic prick.

Chaz seems to be the smart one in that fucked up family. When Cher wanted to marry the 30-something gold digger a couple of years ago, Chaz is the one who reportedly put the kibbosh on it.

Cher, who is 80, actually believes someone in their 30s is interested in her romantically for her mind and body and not for her millions.

She really is a delusional bitch.

Celeste Holm agrees.

It’s a shame Elijah Blue is so fucked up because if he and Chaz teamed up, they could have Cher committed to a poorly equipped nursing home and take control of her empire.

There’s no doubt both of them would love to see that bitch fed gruel and treated like the negligent cunt she is.

Thanks for putting that out there R166.

R167 = Elijah Blue.

Cher is such an ungrateful cunt. She always trashes Sonny but if it wasn’t for him she’d have been an Armenian streetwalker who cleaned toilets for a living.

She can’t sing and trashed her acting career - which was her only talent - for her shitty music. Every man she met was a villain when the one commonality among them was Cher.

She’s such a cunt.

She probably knows he would use it for drugs. Look at that long drug fingernail.

I'm sure she didn't set out to hurt her son.

Someone should go to Elijah's bedside and recite from his legal declaration last year.

'My mother's petition raises dual concerns that I suffer from some mental illness and that I live hand-to-mouth using my trust distributions to buy drugs and place myself in mortal danger.

'I have struggled with addiction but I am not mentally ill,' he said.

'The absence of evidence of the concerns (related to 'cyclical' mental illness addiction) raised in the petition over the last four months are evidence that I have control over my faculties and that I am not mentally ill.'

'I know that my mother's objectives are not nefarious….I know that my mother's actions are meant to help me - but I do not need this help, he insisted.

'My mother seems to believe that controlling these quarterly trust distributions will prevent me from engaging in self-destructive behavior. She is misguided. 'In the event that I am inclined to engage in self-destructive behaviors, I do not need my trust distributions to do so; he world is full of addicts and mentally ill persons who do not have a trust distribution from which to draw. The only person who can save me from my demons is me – and I'm doing just that.'

R151 posts the same thing about Cher and Chaz in every single thread about her. Cher was pissed that she was the last to know about Chaz being gay because they had been pretty close. She got over it quickly and has been nothing but supportive. They were estranged for all of a week.

Why doesn’t Cher have the little mite come live with her? She could cook for him as he recovers, read bedtime stories… do all the things she should have done the first time.

Breastfeeding, for example.

Could make a great reality show! [italic]My Two Sons

Hit Ignore on R166 and half the thread disappears.

Cher being a gay icon should have given birth to a hot gay son. What did we get, Chaz fucking Bono!

Cher should have raised the best damn drag queen this town’s ever seen.

She had ONE JOB - -

He almost looks presidential.

Elijah did an interview about a decade ago where he confided his drug addiction was self-medicating for stuff he had gone through in his life. I wonder what?

Cher did this long interview with Howard Stern and barely mentioned her kids.

[quote]Elijah did an interview about a decade ago where he confided his drug addiction was self-medicating for stuff he had gone through in his life. I wonder what?

He felt abandoned because he was sent to boarding school when he was 7 years old. He also felt abandoned by his father and only started building a relationship with him a few years before Allman's death.

He's still on the payroll.

[quote] Cher did this long interview with Howard Stern and barely mentioned her kids.

She’s probably respecting their privacy.

Maybe she got fed up?

She’s paying his fancy hotel bill.

Chaz has been on Stern. It was good interview.

Cher being a staunch Democrat has triggered some here.

[quote]She treated Chaz like shit when she initially came out as a lesbian.

Dataloungers feel the same way about lesbians.

Cher's son Elijah Blue Allman has been hospitalized for "acting erratically," authorities said.

Elijah — the 48-year-old son of the "Believe" singer, 79, and the late Gregg Allman — was rushed to a hospital on Saturday, June 14, according to the San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department (SBCSD). TMZ was first to report the news.

"Deputies from our Morongo Basin Station responded to a residence in Landers for a male subject acting erratically. When deputies arrived, Elijah Allman, 48, was being evaluated by emergency medical personnel," authorities said in a statement obtained by PEOPLE. "Deputies located drugs inside the home and Allman was transported to the hospital. The investigation is ongoing."

Legal representatives for Elijah, as well as a representative for Cher, did not respond to PEOPLE's request for comment on Sunday, June 15.

In an exclusive statement to PEOPLE, Elijah's estranged wife, Marieangela King Allman, expressed her support.

“While it is true that Elijah has faced personal challenges in the past, one constant has been his unwavering commitment to sobriety and his loyalty to those he loves," she said.

"Like many, he continues to confront his inner struggles — but it is important to recognize that he does so from a place of strength, not defeat," Marieangela continued. "Despite the assumptions that often color how his journey is portrayed, the reality is that Elijah remains grounded, focused and deeply committed to living with integrity and purpose."

"I want to state, without hesitation, that I will always root for him," she added. "My support is steadfast and comes from a place of deep respect for the person he is and the resilience he continues to show."

Is her son better yet?

If not, why isn’t Miss Cher doing more?

He accused Cher of kidnapping him in order to get him into rehab during her attempts to become his conservator. He's 48 years old --obviously not a child. California has an extremely high legal threshold for that sort of thing, and as he and his cray cray wife were opposed to her involvement in his life, I doubt there is anything she can do. He refuses treatment and any money she gives him will probably be used for drugs which will eventually kill him. I am no fan of Cher but she gets a pass from me on this.

Didn’t she pay for her daughter’s sex change?

Good God. How did these people get so old. He looks like a messed up Eric Clapton. I remember when he was born.

That's sad, at least she tried to save him, but some people are just bent on self destruction. His wife help block him from going into a conservatorship and now she's estranged? Not a good look when your chosen partner blocks you from getting help then abandons you.

I know Cher has gotten blowback from a lot of people about how she raised her kids, but I don't really agree. Throughout her life and career, she has always remained very close to her mother and her sister. I think she's always made it clear how important family is to her. I can't believe it would be different with her own kids.

My point is, I think it's a lot deeper and a lot more complicated. But I don't believe she has ever truly abandoned them, at least not by her own choice.

Gregg Allman didn't manage to get sober until he was nearly 50, the age Elijah is now. And Gregg died at age 69.

Helping him would not help him and she knows it. Her son needs to fight his own battle or he will die.

There’s only so much you can do with a strong willed mental case.

R193 being close to your mother and sister is not an indication of your worth as a mother.

Cher's basically supported her entire family forever...

He needs to hit rock bottom first

A friend of mine finally got sober after decades of alcoholism because he COULDN’T afford not to. It got to a point where he absolutely could not work, couldn’t support himself, would have ended up in the street. In Cher’s son’s case, that’s probably not the case.

Everyone who is calling Cher callous, see R6 . It's very complicated to help someone with certain disorders when a hallmark of the disorder is that they don't want to be helped. (Drug addiction, hoarding disorder ... ) It's like being in a cult.

[quote] He needs to hit rock bottom first

Not there yet doesn't look like. He was still able to pull together a decent court look circa January 2024 though it sounds like a recent tough couple of months. And the Chateau hasn't banned him (yet?). Maybe his pedigree means always welcome

It's just so weird. I know mental illness and drug addictions are very real but when you see celebrity children like this... get a hobby, do you really think you have real problems?

Chaz said it hurt Cher more to have a fat child than a gay one. In other words, a DL'er.

[quote] It's very complicated to help someone with certain disorders when a hallmark of the disorder is that they don't want to be helped

I understand what you're saying. Maybe he needs a different environment. It's just frustrating knowing someone like Cher has all the resources in the world to help.

He needs to figure it out on his own, maybe his wife is enabling him...who knows?

Sounds like the wife wants out/can't fix it from April 2025. "irreconcilable differences"

Did he ever work steadily, have a normal life? Maybe he doesn’t know what normal life is.

[quote] He needs to hit rock bottom first

His bottom will always have a cushion thanks to the money from his dad's estate. He doesn't need any money from Cher. I guess that's why he keeps telling her to fuck off. It's out of her hands at this point. His ex will enable him into an early grave and then go after the money.

He lives in a $3.5 million house. Not doing too poorly.

She should sell her home and personal property in case the son needs help during this difficult time.

That’s what a Real Mother would do.

When you mother or father are supper famous for what they achieved in life, I could see how growing up under that shadow would be a lot of pressure to achieve the same which would most likely be impossible. I mean some have in spite of that, but a lot of theses kids just seem to say fuk-it. Turn into party animals and call it a day.

LOL golf claps for r210 - how would that help her son - does he have a rehab bill of tens of millions to pay or something? What a fucking retard.

so did he ever have a "job" or work in any capacity?

No, not a bitch. An exhausted mother. Children do things to themselves and when things really go bad they take no responsibility for what they’ve done to themselves. They blame parents. Parents can only do so much for a lost child. The heavy here is the kid, not the mother.

What's this sesst about famous parents put such pressure on kids to achieve something on heir own they can only fail? Nonsense. Mother is a famous singer. I cannot sing. I will achieve success in another field. Success, with application, is easy to achieve. Or at least keep out of the pros for being a loser.

R213 have you read R207?

On Howard Stern he called Bijou Phillips "three o'clock slop." It was hot in a douchy way

[quote] Chaz said it hurt Cher more to have a fat child than a gay one.

Didn't she have both with Chastity, R203?

Chashtishty!!

Nicotine stain on his index finger! (Isn't that a song lyric? Off to Google)

Oh. It's Music Man. ^^^^^I was thinking more along the lines of "Helter Skelter" or something similar

Cher's son has still not held a press conference, open to the public, to show himself to be completely cured.

[italic]What the hell is Cher doing behind the scenes? ANYTHING??

[quote] Chaz said it hurt Cher more to have a fat child than a gay one.

Vapid, empty, cunt. That’s Cher.

I’m surprised she took time from shopping and blowing someone to even make such a statement. She really was the original Kardashian.