The Supreme Court has voted to throw trans people out of the military.

Thank you for your service, Chappell Roan! You having to scream about trans rights at every opportunity has now been guaranteed for the next two or three decades, at least.

Who brought the suit? I would think they need service members regardless of whatever.

We are not really shocked by this useless SC!!

What a bunch of cunts.

Perhaps I'm confused, but I thought it was to allow that pending argument. The headline implies a final ruling?

Check OP's posting history, r5.

R5, I think it's basically letting Trump throw them out in advance of a final ruling (which is obvious) as the case proceeds.

If anyone thinks this will not affect gay service members too you are delusional.

[quote]The Supreme Court on Tuesday allowed President Trump’s administration to begin enforcing a ban on transgender troops serving openly in the military, undermining two lower court decisions and handing a victory to an administration that has broadly sought to restrict transgender rights.

[quote]The Justice Department asked the justices in an emergency application last month to lift a Seattle-area federal judge’s nationwide injunction blocking the policy, which Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth put forward following an executive order Trump issued days into his second term. The justices paused the injunction until the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit rules on the Trump administration’s appeal and the high court has the chance to consider whether to hear the case.

[quote]One thing the rethug judges agree on is taking away LBGTQ rights.

This is a T issue. It doesn’t affect LGBQ rights. And serving in the military isn’t a “right.” People are denied or discharged for many reasons.

OP here. Yes it is not a final ruling but it is on the way to eventually throwing them out. Are we supposed to be okay with that? Go ahead and check my posting history r6. Doesn't change the facts of what they are doing.

I see the anti trans trolls are awake.

How many are currently in the military and how many are actually deployable?

how long before 'the gays' are throw out? I'm guessing the vote gonna be 6-3

So if there's a male officer who was called Adam who has changed his name to Eve and got himself a cracking pair of tits, can he change his name back to Adam and keep his job?

Does it only impact trans people who have started a medical process?

[quote]So if there's a male officer who was called Adam who has changed his name to Eve and got himself a cracking pair of tits, can he change his name back to Adam and keep his job?

I thought that is impossible? Transitioning is life-saving and trannies will literally die if unable to have hormones and surgeries. That’s what we’re always told anyway.

There is no shinier object for the right to dangle before the left than “trans.”

And they fall for it every time. Like Pavlov’s dog.

Yet, all the transgendered soldiers enlisted, unlike their so-called commander-in-chief who dodged the wartime draft by claiming inability to serve due to heel spurs.

So much for "leading by example."

According to some estimates, 18,000 service members identify as trans. Depending on their fields of expertise, that would create a considerable dent in readiness. In the past, some have served as intelligence officers, translators, computer experts, in the medical field, and in other highly-trained positions.

The judge who put a pause on the terminations asked the military to provide evidence that the trans members were not performing up to the standards of the rest of the military or had impeded readiness. The military did not comply with that request. The lawyer for the government argued that the Department of Defense can make its own determination of readiness and that the courts should defer to that. It appears that the Supremes have made at least a temporary bow to that point of view. The DOD in this case apparently means Donald Trump and Pete Hegseth

R18 - how many members of the military are there in total for there to be 18000 trans people?

And of the 18000 is there any idea of MTF and FTM?

Reminds me of whn the Pentagon fired a bunch of its Arabic language translators for being gay JUST in time for the Afghanistan-Iraq War.

There are approximately 2 million members of the military. The trans number, which is only an estimate since the pentagon itself has never enumerated this, would be somewhat less than 1% of the total. Like .06. Apparently, when someone undergoes transitioning while already in the military, that person gets an official diagnosis of gender dysphoria and those numbers are counted. I think that number is around 2000. That would not count people who either don't get surgery at all, or who got surgery before entering the military.

Thanks R21

I want to know when the anti-trans brigade is going to fight to keep men from working in women's prisons. Since prisons are to be safe spaces for women, why isn't it addressed how male prison officers assault women at alarming rates in women's prisons all across the country? What about the power imbalances that happen at these places? The UK has just as many men working in women's prisons (sometimes more) than their female brethren. Where's the outrage when Rowling and her ilk?

Someone said it on another message board and they're right. The white women leading this brigade are punching down because they still want to benefit from their white supremacist male brigade's privilege. So they frame it on trans being the sole enemy yet ignore the overwhelming number of heterosexual men committing crimes because they don't want to lose their benefits in society. Cowards in every sense of the word.

Is this really a bad thing though? What’s gonna happen when these hoes are in combat and don’t have access to their whore moans?

I hope there’s a huge protest.

[quote]I want to know when the anti-trans brigade is going to fight to keep men from working in women's prisons. Since prisons are to be safe spaces for women, why isn't it addressed how male prison officers assault women at alarming rates in women's prisons all across the country? What about the power imbalances that happen at these places? The UK has just as many men working in women's prisons (sometimes more) than their female brethren. Where's the outrage when Rowling and her ilk?

Are you on crack? You're comparing male professionals working in a female environment to male rapists pretending to be transgender so they can serve their prison sentence in a women's prison? Can you provide evidence of mass sexual assault?

[quote]Someone said it on another message board and they're right. The white women leading this brigade are punching down because they still want to benefit from their white supremacist male brigade's privilege. So they frame it on trans being the sole enemy yet ignore the overwhelming number of heterosexual men committing crimes because they don't want to lose their benefits in society. Cowards in every sense of the word.

Again, are you on crack? Women have been fighting MALE violence forever. It's not ALL men who are violent, but stopping men/males from going in to female spaces is part of the solution. And you don't think black and Asian women benefit from female only spaces? They don't benefit from sexual violence services run by women for women?

And as countless people have said, WHERE ARE THE FUCKING MEN STOPPING MALE VIOLENCE? MEN ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR MALE VIOLENCE FOR FUCK'S SAKE

take a Xanax, OP

Linky stinky

R26 is Nancy Mace on another bender.

R29 is Dr. Rachel Levine

D14 if he’s a cock sucker they’ll get him out eventually. This lays the groundwork for that.

Believe me, if there was a draft they wouldn't be left out.

It wouldn’t make sense to allow the injunction to continue. If the Defense Department says that a policy on who can be in the military is needed for national security, no court should issue an injunction against the policy while the case is being decided. The default in such a situation should be to leave the military personnel policy in place until the legal case is resolved. If the plaintiffs should eventually win their case, restitution can be made and/or reinstatement.

[quote] Reminds me of whn the Pentagon fired a bunch of its Arabic language translators for being gay JUST in time for the Afghanistan-Iraq War.

It doesn’t remind me of that at all. There was nothing mentally or physically wrong with translators, so unlike the case with the trans, no rational reason to discharge them.

Unless a trans member of the military really really really wants to be trained and programmed to kill people from other countries in the twisted guise of "patriotism," then why would they want to be part of the US War Machine anyway? Or maybe, like most of those who chose to enlist, they're in it for the usual bribes by the military of funded healthcare, job training, etc.

At the time that Obama and then Biden allowed them to join the military, the military became one of the SAFEST places for a trans person to be. Lots of work spaces are hostile to trans people. The military (pre-trump purges) has always been a chain-of-command environment. If the president or the chief of staff orders people to behave in such and such a way, they do (or did in the past) . This is how the military was integrated almost 20 years before the same thing happened in the "outside world" and to much the same purpose. In 1948, there was virtually NO place except for the military where black people could work alongside white people doing the same kind of jobs and having the opportunity to rise up the military ranks without reference to skin color. But it happened very very quickly in the military and within a few years, there were even white soldiers serving under black commanders.

I don't think the average trans person opting for military service hopes for battle field life. In many cases, as I mentioned above, lots of these are people with very specialized skill sets that are valuable to a military and they are likely to ask for those kinds of jobs in their interviews.

Amy Schneider, during her incredible run on Jeopardy, demonstrated extremely high levels of intelligence, memory and problem solving. A person like that would have lots of skills to bring to the military.

Ever notice the most famous "trans woman" never shows up to a trans rally? Never comments on trans issues when they break? Isn't on CNN to talk about "outrage" or "fighting to survive"? He is an "activist" without the active part. Lena Dunham does more fighting for trans rights than Dylan Mulvaney.

I'm non binary....Whoops. Being a trans girl pays better. I am trans!! I am an activist who doesn't go to ANY trans rights rallies!!

I’m going to go to hell for saying this but I will anyway because it’s the truth. Trans people are largely responsible for this. Over the past decade or so they’ve been mercilessly throwing themselves in everyone’s faces and making insane demands. What did they think was going to happen?

If some nominal amount of trans want to serve in the military, WTF is to these people? Will THEY step up and serve in their place instead?

Put up or shut up, cunts.

We have rules here at Trumpworts.

Has Lee Pace commented?

[quote]Who brought the suit? I would think they need service members regardless of whatever.

That's kind of irrelevant since there are probably so few Trans actually in the military. You cant make the argument about Trans in women's sports not being a bid deal with only 0.001% in pro sports and they say OH but the military will be devastated if they kick a few out.

That said, I do think they will come after LGBT marriage next. But that's a lot bigger demographic that will impact everyone as most people know someone who is gay, most people do not know someone who is trans.

No one inc the DoD knows how many trans there are on AD. The dod does not keep count. None of us have a clue if the trans generally can do their job, can deploy, can be in combat , can do the job they are paid to do. Yes or No —-no one on DL knows.

But I do know that the captain of a navy ship is like a king. I know that the Commander in Chief is like the captain of a navy ship. He or she is the mofo in charge. The one that makes the decisions.

The military has never been a democracy