In teary BBC interview, Prince Harry says king ‘won’t speak to him’ and he would ‘love’ to be reconciled

He produces fresh new drama on a weekly basis and he wonders why his dad won't speak to him? It's because you'd just run to the tabloids five minutes (if that) after your conversation ended to complain about how Charles wasn't contrite enough or generous enough with your allowances, you assface.

He is such a narcissistic whiny baby.

He keeps trying to litigate everything, and now that he lost, he's going to place the ultimate blame on his father the king.

I hope Charles continues to refuse to see him or speak to him.

He just can't stop. He's gotta keep doing interviews, gotta keep airing drama to the press for cash.

I think they were right to point out the shitty racism and other bad behavior, but I mean, didn’t he realize it would cause a rift? I mean come on.

R4 What racism and what bad behaviour?

I would hate for complete strangers to feel bold enough to opine of a rift with my family.

Oh barf. What a simpering little putz.

[quote]I would hate for complete strangers to feel bold enough to opine of a rift with my family.

Fine, tell him to stop running to the press and oversharing then.

[quote] I would hate for complete strangers to feel bold enough to opine of a rift with my family.

Then why would you run whining to those complete strangers via the BBC?

That's why the motto of The Firm has been: never complain, never explain.

How long before another royal divorce?

My god but he's a low-functioning individual.

[quote] I would hate for complete strangers to feel bold enough to opine of a rift with my family.

WE WANT PRIVACY!

WE WANT PRIVACY!

[quote]I think they were right to point out the shitty racism

Yeah, a 45 million dollar wedding and walked down the aisle by the future King of England. What racists!

[quote] “I can only come to the UK safely if I am invited

He's been over here about 3 times in the last year alone for heavily publicised visits. At no point has he been shot at or had a white fiat try to drive him off the road.

He lies and misrepresents. He can and does come repeatedly if he wants security with bells in, he just has to give 28 days notice

He really has no understanding of the constitutional role his father the king plays. Charles could not interfere in this.

At one point in the interview, he appears to compare his plight to the history of abuse suffered by the indigenous people of Canada. He's a narcissist.

He and his wife chose to leave their public roles. They should be prepared to accept the consequences of their decision.

I hate the monarchy but I'm totally Team Charles here. Harry is such a little man baby. If you really want to make up with your family, don't got on TV and talk about them, bitch.

His father and grandmother were shot at in public. His aunt was kidnapped. All of them continued to allow the public to get within inches of them. Yet he would lead us to believe some bloody massacre would occur if a non- entity like him sets foot on English soil for a private visit. His wife travels with a larger security entourage than the Queen did.

Show us your pink cock and ginger pubes and keep your stupid mouth shut.

Princess Anne on her kidnapping attempt. Balls of steel.

How nice that the BBC recorded him as he finally cut his own royal throat once and for all.

Effectively saying he expected his father to die, blaming his father for following the courts, saying his father should "step aside" so he could have FULL SECURITY, saying it would be bad for the UK if "something were to happen" to his family and him if they visited, saying he "had to" quit doing the royal work.

That 65 IQ is being completely wasted on the cunt's Puppet Boy.

He keeps on being such a mewling, victimhood-enshrouded, media-addicted pathetic disgrace to the rest of his family.

Was this Meghan’s influence on him, or has Harry always been like this?

It's her and he is easily manipulated. A bit dim I'm afraid.

I am still rooting for him but please, he'll never get it right until that beast is surgically removed from his back.

What a fucking asshole. I've always been quite fond of him, even though he's a dumb ass. He served his country as a soldier and always seemed like a decent guy until he hooked up with Meghan. And I don't blame her for his behavior - he's just a very weak man who has merrily given her control of his life.

The fact that he's pulling this bullshit now - blaming his father who is most likely dying of cancer for not paying for the same level of security he'd get if he was a working royal - is despicable. The asshole voluntarily left that family and his royal station. None of his cousins - all direct descendants of the Queen - get protection unless they're working royals.

He's lazy and worthless. What the hell has he accomplished since he moved to the US? Honestly, now I'm starting to feel sorry for Meghan. She has hustled non-stop. Granted, the hustling hasn't amounted to much and she can't get out of her own way, but at least she's trying to make a living. He just bitches and moans that daddy doesn't support him. He's 40 fucking years old!

Remember those nudes from vegas? I wonder how much that woman got paid off for those pictures

That's right H, more interviews, they've been so helpful for your cause in the past.

His father and Kate have dealt with their illnesses with great dignity. I'm stunned that no one has leaked the types of cancers they have or their prognosis. They've been given a level of privacy from the British press that's extraordinarily rare. Then this asshole pops off suggesting his father might not have long to live.

My guess is he has no idea how ill his dad is. And I highly doubt anyone told him what type of cancer Kate had or her level of illness. Because this is how Harry/Meghan operate - take the suffering of others and turn it into their own victimhood.

He's a total loser. 40 years old and no job. Whining like a little bitch that no one is supporting him. He could have had the world on a silver platter but he and Meghan torpedoed that. He's like Trump blaming Biden for the economy. Nothing but a self-induced disaster and no one buys that Charles is responsible for his terrible life choices.

Pussy.

Forgive his father? For what? It's the other way around you ginger imbecile. Did Harry will believe his wife's narrative of slights and insults?

He just can't keep his dumb-ass mouth shut, can he?

He is the very definition of white privilege...cry me a fucking river!

I an watching the BBC interview and he is truly delusional. He compares himself to an elected official who gets lifetime security. He is not one and few of them get lifetime security. He says he is the most at risk member of the family. He still refers to his ill treatment. He and Meghan have chosen an ongoing celebrity lifestyle for the kaching but others should pay for his lifetime cover.

I'm quite sure him and his ugly brood aren't running around Montecito without a security detail so what, he's just too cheap to pay for it himself?

Didn't these people step away from Royal life because they wanted the media, and the reporters, and the cameras out of their life?? Yet here he is on TV doing another fucking interview.

In other words: MEHgan's running out of money and all day long she screams at him: YOU BETTER CALL YOUR DAD AND GET SOME MONEY OR YOU DON'T LOVE ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They must be out of money. He and Meghan live a very expensive lifestyle yet have very little income.

Who is responsible for him being so dumb? Is it unfortunate genetics, is it inbreeding, or was Diana hitting the sauce while she was knocked up?

All he has done has come back to bite him in the ass. We don't know the hate mail and threats he has received, but England should to have to pay for "security" of any non-working royal who left his country and now wants to pop back when he cares too. A King left in 1936, was never able to successfully return. Same for Harry's future. What he now wants the King to do the King cannot do. Laws, you know.

He issued a statement pointing out that he has been threatened by Al Qaeda, but omits the fact that he was threatened because he wrote in his book about the specific number of people he killed and compared it to a game.

And having been so reckless, and having sold out his family for tens of millions of pounds, he thinks that I, as a British taxpayer, should be obliged to pay the extortionate cost of having armed Metropolitan Police protection officers follow him around.

The man is a fuckwit and an entitled cunt.

He's wasting millions on legal fees, what a dumb cunt! I read he came into his inheritance or trust just recently...around 40 million.

There can never be reconciliation until both Harry and Meghan show remorse for all the terrible things they have done and said to hurt the Queen, the King, and the rest of the family. Harry and Meghan would also have to make full confessions to retract the incredible lies they have told about the family and their own actions.

[quote]Who is responsible for him being so dumb?

How mother was Diana.

Oops, R38, England should NOT have to pay ...

I just watched the BBC interview. He is paranoid as well as narcissistic, and he sounds obsessed with hating the people he keeps calling his "enemies" who "wish him harm" who were behind the 2020 RAVEC decision (does he mean William & Catherine?).

[quote]he appears to compare his plight to the history of abuse suffered by the indigenous people of Canada.

Jesus! The audacity of this little punk.

[quote]He is paranoid as well as narcissistic, and he sounds obsessed with hating the people he keeps calling his "enemies" who "wish him harm"

Keep in mind that he has Wormtongue (aka Meghan) constantly whispering in his ear.

[quote]They must be out of money. He and Meghan live a very expensive lifestyle yet have very little income.

That's probably ultimately what this is about; while he's by no means perfect, I can't help but feel bad for King Chuck.

The Royal Family should go the way of the Romanovs. The idea of “royalty” is a ridiculous relic of a shameful past. Just get rid of them all.

I just can't see how Harry thought this was going to endear him to his father and brother and put any pressure on them. He is sure to be eviscerated by the British press for this.

R48

Maybe they could just die out slowly?

To the Bolsheviks’ dismay, not all of the victims died immediately after being shot, and the armed men soon turned to bayonets, knives, the butts of their guns, and brute force to finish killing off the children. It took about 20 minutes for all of them to die. The youngest of the Romanov children, Alexei, was just 13 years old at the time. According to Russia Beyond, young Alexei also suffered from the bleeding disorder hemophilia throughout his short life, meaning that his death may have been particularly agonizing.

He reminds me of a member of my family where it's a cocktail of grievances, entitlement and self absorption... and then when you cut them off like Charles has they complain that you won't speak to them. This interview is another chance to get on their soapbox because they think if they just explain how hard done by they are one more time everyone will side with them and see the others are the "bad guys" in this.

r51, that's the classic pattern of aggrieved narcissists.

This is very upsetting. Has anyone asked if Meghan's OK?

I just watched a snippet of Meghan interviewed on some podcast this week. It was insipid. She’s so outlandishly dull. And the faux joy she expresses for the banality of her life…turning her morning routine to get her kids off to school an epic poem—with her as the selfless heroine. It’s worth watching to hear her describe all her work responsibilities—writing social captions, creating sku numbers for her products! And all she has to manage while being a good wife and mom.

These two fools….i haven’t listened to her new podcast. I just can’t. But I heard it’s tanking. What’s left for them? He’s totally paranoid and clearly mentally ill. He’s probably always been a bit unstable but the Meghan saga stress pushed him over the edge. And Meghan…I still can’t get over the fact that the only family at her wedding was her mom. Only celebs she barely—or didn’t—know. That’s all you really need to know about that one.

Who will hire them? Meghan has failed at all her ventures and Harry is a lazy ass. Only thing left is for Meghan to get divorced and write a book

These fools made the last days of Elizabeth II and Philip miserable with their pointless controversies, and now they're doing the same to Charles. The 'Sussex Squad' is always ready to defend their behavior, while I just dig in my heels and hate Harry and Meghan a little more, with each outpouring.

They won't be able to make the next monarchy miserable because William will strip them of everything he can.

[Quote] [R4] What racism and what bad behaviour?

What January 6 insurrection?

BREXIT? What BREXIT?

R5 also believes Andrew was FRAMED

Harry and Meghan are exhausting.

Wondering what a baby will look like is not racism.

[quote]r22 He keeps on being such a mewling, victimhood-enshrouded, media-addicted pathetic disgrace to the rest of his family.

Really, though, don't you think Andrew and his wife have been the most disgraceful? I mean, they are actually [italic]criminally corrupt.[/italic]

He married her after she almost killed daddy. Always has been selfish.

Man up, Harry and stop being a baby.

The royal family live their entire lives in a goldfish bowl, and they are extremely careful about guarding their privacy. Anyone in their circle knows this and does not talk about them. If they do, they are brutally dropped. Harry grew up inside this system and knows the rules. He only has himself to blame for the pasting he’s going to receive.

He has the same problem Andrew did--he's not the Prince of Wales and can't understand why he doesn't have the same perks.

The most shocking part of the interview was him saying that someone does want history to repeat itself, i.e., someone (in the family?) wants a Sussex dead. When the interview followed up, he said he wouldn't say anything more "at this time". Spare II on the way, I guess.

Can no one intervene to stop this self-pitying, paranoid dum-dum from making his problems worse? MM can't be happy about him burning almost $2 million.

Buckingham Palace issued a statement: "All of these issues have been examined repeatedly and meticulously by the courts, with the same conclusion reached on each occasion."

Not as pithy as "Recollections may vary", but nicely dispassionate.

[QUOTE]Only thing left is for Meghan to get divorced and write a book

[QUOTE]Spare II on the way, I guess.

I believe the contract with the publisher contains two more books which haven't materialized yet, so give it time. When Spare came out, Harry said that he and the ghost writer had to pare it down substantially to come to a manageable length, so there's enough written for a good start for a second tome. I have a feeling it won't sell as well.

By definition, the material not included in the first book is the less interesting stuff and reviewers will hammer any sequel even mot than the first one.

Harry was once the most popular Royal. His unfortunate marriage to a malignant narcissist ruined everything for him. He has burned all bridges, all at the behest of his twat wife. But the real blame is on his own weak personality and jealousy of his brother.

Unfortunately the older brother is turning into a cold, brittle twat just like their father. So no extra largesse will be extended when that asshole takes the throne.

Harry and Meghan are stuck in a vicious cycle. They do hypocritical things (such as Meghan recently using her HRH title after blasting the monarchy), people call them out on it, and they take the call-outs as further evidence that everyone's out to get them.

The Oprah interview aired when Philip was on his deathbed. Even if Harry hadn't been told that his grandfather was dying, he knew that being hospitalised at 99 is generally the death knell. He could easily have asked for the interview's release to be postponed. Instead, he allowed it to air, leaving his grandmother to deal with the fallout from the press as her husband was dying.

I'm sure the royals aren't completely innocent in all of this, but in the end it's ridiculous of Harry to be shocked that they don't want to speak to him. Who's going to trust someone who might repeat what you've said out of context in an interview or book?

The high dudgeon here is hilarious. It’s beyond bizarre the way so many of you are so personally aggrieved on Charles and William’s behalf. Neither one of them would piss on you if you were on fire.

Andrew is a scumbag r61 but he keeps a relatively low profile. He doesn't give interviews on a regular basis. I think Andrew is undoubtedly a far worse person but he's less of an embarrassment to the family.

Harry doesn't mention that the people who get lifetime police protection are former prime ministers and M5 directors who know state secrets. A former prince knows no state secrets; protecting him should not be a burden on the taxpayer.

He and his woeful family would get protection, they just have to notify CPS of their plans 45 days in advance of their arrival. They can stay on Crown properties and be protected. They can bring all the private unarmed security that they want. If the CPS hears of a verifiable threat, they will inform him and provide security until the threat has passed.

What they won’t do is automatically provide bodyguards. Meghan really wound Harry up. I’m not sure if he realizes that she’s the one calling the paps.

[quote]At no point has he been shot at or had a white fiat try to drive him off the road.

Yeah, but just wait till he tries to stiff Meghan in the divorce...

R50 “According to Russia Beyond, young Alexei also suffered from the bleeding disorder hemophilia…”

Are you really sure about that? Any better source than Russia Beyind? 🤔😵‍💫

R2 What an awful thing to say. The man is dying. He needs the love of his family not drama. He’s always been close to his boys, they need to make amends.

He'll never be allowed back. She'll never be tolerated in any way.

Their whining and whinging have always been grounded in viciously false attacks, driven by her moral vacancy and trash ambition and his pussy-whipped idiocy. Ultimately for her it's all about the money and "influence," and for him an imagined prominence that his family has denied him.

You don't lie about the Princess of Wales, accuse the Prince of Wales of being a thug, repeatedly insult the Queen Consort, make every family sorrow about yourself and try to monetize them, noisily ridicule Royal traditions, enact parodies of curtsying to your husband's grandmother the Queen for the camera, renege on your stepping-back agreements, set yourself up in a California palace as if you're the Court in Waiting, accuse the Princess Royal of being racist, invent a car chase in Manhattan for clicks, cozy up to dictators for money, instruct the family on how to do things that they've been managing for centuries, and declare the UK the MOST DANGEROUS COUNTRY IN THE WORLD as an excuse for denying the King a visit with his grandchildren while using them as props for your failing business enterprises, and expect that anything but your death will allow your carcass to be received into the country, if only to be dropped into an obscure hole.

Even the Meghan is bossy, the Royal Family should have been more sensitive to Meghan’s position and the fact that she was going through a lot due to all the hate she was getting from common folk. They should have uplifted Meghan. Instead they ostracized her. Megan isn’t totally blameless. She was pretty damn bitchy too. Sad tragedy all the way around.

R81 What hate?

Nice substitution of fantasy for reality, R81. No one but a small, small lunatic fringe had any problem with Meghan at the time of the marriage. Once they got to know her it was another story. You're American, right?

R73, I'm not aggrieved on Charles or William's behalf. If there were a referendum on the monarchy tomorrow, I'd vote to abolish. That doesn't mean I don't find Harry's hypocrisy and lack of self-awareness annoying.

Anyway, on the BBC News YouTube channel, Harry's interview currently has 6.6K likes and 18K dislikes.

R83 I just want peace and harmony. Can anybody offer the first olive. Time is so short.

r85, why does this have anything to do with what you want?

R85 does the olive come with a martini?

Harry made his bed when he left the UK at 35 and accepted the deal the palace made with him. He is unwilling to work anymore at being a royal, but fortunately for him and his wife his great-grandmother left him a lot of money. He can come back and bring his family if he gives advance notice, and he'll get security protection, but not enough to make him and his wife think they are the most important members of his family, which is really what this is all about.

He doesn't need it anymore. William is the heir to the throne, and his three children are the heirs after him. The likelihood all three of William's children would die before Harry (without their having children of their own, who would also stand between him and the throne) is so infinitesimal no one believes it would ever happen. There is no reason for anyone to want to kill him or his wife or his children. If it's al-Qaeda taking revenge, that's his own fault for blabbing about killing so many people during the war--he did not have to do that, but decided to do it anyway. In any case, the likelihood Al-Qaeda would try so long after that war to have him killed is pretty remote.

His father and William do not want to see him because they cannot let down their guard with him--he blabs everything they say to him, and of course he would do so again. He is addicted to the attention. He loves his privileges, but like Andre and Margaret before him he has trouble accepting he benefits from being in a system based on primogeniture when he was not the first-born. No one is going to advance him to the throne even if he thinks he is smarter and more deserving than William--that's not how his system works. If he wants to be judged on his merits entirely, then he needs to leave the royal system entirely. He and Meghan are still unwilling to do that--they still want to be called "Your Royal Highness" and be bowed before. If he wants any chance of reconciliation with his brother and father, he's got to shut his big mouth.

And he does not get special protection for doing "service" from the UK establishment because he does not get to decide on his own what his "service" is--if he wants them to consider his service, he has to do what the Palace asks him to do. He never seems willing to accept the plain fact that insofar as he matters to anyone it is because he is the son of the king and the brother of the Prince of Wales. He gets money and benefits from that position, but he does not get to be more important than they are.

[QUOTE]They should have uplifted Meghan. Instead they ostracized her.

It was a slap in Meghan's face and a kick to the gutter when the Queen appointed her the only Royal patron to the National Theatre. They tried to trick her by telling her it's prestigious position, but Meghan knew better. She always does and was having none of it..

A close friend of a close friend served in the same unit as Harry many years ago. Harry was helpless, hapless, dumb as a ham sandwich. He could barely put toothpaste on his own toothbrush.

Sure, Jhan.

A quote from The Times today underscores the trust problem:

“It’s not that the King won’t speak to him — it’s that he can’t. How can you have a private and delicate conversation when you know it is going to end up on a news special within hours? Perhaps if he tried to earn rather than demand a reconciliation, things might go a little better for him. It’s just very tragic.”

I was a Meghan supporter at the beginning. I am a biracial woman and I felt for her going up against the racist British tabloids. However it became pretty clear that she a complete and ruthless social climber. She uses people and discards them. Her father is a creep so I am not talking about him. Her ex-husband - who she dumped by FedEx letter and her best friend from childhood who she discarded once she got Suits.

Then I watched a couple of episodes of their cringe fest Netflix dox. At one point they were in a car and Harry was insisting that they were being followed. Meghan was egging him on. It seems like he is quite paranoid after the death of his mother. He needed to marry a woman who would tell him to get a grip and plant him firmly in reality. Instead he married a woman who wants nothing but fame and money. I think William is a complete dolt and I have no doubt that being a member of the royal family is challenging but Meghan never intended to stay in the UK.

None of you understand the danger I am in. If I go back to the UK, Willie might break another of my necklaces.

R81 is a liar of the knuckle-dragger type.

The welcome for that woman in the UK was broad and heartfelt. She seemed a fresh force, rather than just another adventuress cunt trying to parlay a stupid prince's masochism into her rise to glory.

Meghan was and is as shallow as a puddle, as greedy as an untrained child, and as dishonest as all grifters are. Don't play the Poor Little Black Yankee Girl with the people of the UK. If anything they were rather slow to realize how horrible she is. Until then she was a heroine.

Their courses will be the opposite of their insane "dreams" of unlimited wealth and influence, crapped out on the public in the pretense of "cultivated and color-empowered wisdom." She hated being called black until she saw the quick course to victimhood with it. Foul, foul people.

Why is William a complete dolt?

I can't feel sorry for anyone who lives in Montecito.

Lady C @LadyColinCampb

"Well, well, well. If you think the cat's well and truly out of the bag now that Prince Harry has been shooting his mouth off to the BBC, the bongo bongo drums are telling me that this is but the tip of the iceberg. I'm not going to drip feed what I'm hearing. This weekend is proving to be so edifying that I'm going to exercise a measure of patience over the next few days, while Harry dances amidst the chunks of the iceberg on the first class decks, unaware that even as big a ship as the Titanic will sink once it's been holed enough. All I will say,between now and early next week, when the damage will be clearer, is that it couldn't be happening to a more deserving guy. And that's without mentioning his dancing partner."

William does no work. Even before Kate got sick. He is lazy AF and he uses tone of the private helicopter more than any other royal to go on posh holidays or to football games. He is incurious and an all around turd of a man.

When you're the heir to the throne and you will be king I guess it's unavoidable that you're going to be a bit of an asshole.

[quote][R83] I just want peace and harmony. Can anybody offer the first olive. Time is so short.

R85, we doubt you would conduct your own life in the face of familial monstrosities intruding on your pleasant life for cash with a question of whose responsibility it is to stop.

That couple turned things into what they are. Completely and irrevocably. They are dangerous in political terms (less now than before) and repugnant in family terms. They have demanded apologies from the family. They are what needs to be cut, as one must in the worst cases of human interaction. It's what one does with the fanged and deranged.

And withholding the grandchildren from the family is the central proof, in that immoral, manipulative, willfully cruel manner of the psychologically incurable.

Although, of course what you want, is the point. Unless you're a smart troll. "Olive" was a bit much.

No, I never liked the whore, the picture of them going public...she was so fake in it. Also all the stories of her being a CUNT to employees and even the Queen had to step in to defend the employee. The CUNT was just yelling at the poor girl for whatever reason and the Queen said, we don't do things like that here....I believe she was berating the poor girl for the vegan food for wedding or something...

Oh, and R100 is pure troll.

The DL has been showered from its start with bits of asshole. I doubt that any of them were heirs to any throne except Mom's cushioned toilet seat with the heater.

[quote]I would hate for complete strangers to feel bold enough to opine of a rift with my family.

R8, would you please provide an image and explanation of the "incomplete strangers" we infer from your post?

Or are you stump-philic?

r103 when you're royalty things are different.

Lady Colin Campbell at r98 is constantly promising BIG REVEALS which rarely come.

Apparently TMZ is reporting that Harry is flying back to the UK today to "demand" a meeting with Charles and William. Right.

[quote]uses tone of the private helicopter more than any other royal to go ... to football games

Some of those were work-related, as the president / patron of the FA.

I look forward to the day that William is king and these two finally get all that they deserve. It was pretty clear what kind of person Harry's wife was from the get go, William tried to warn him, and it has all been proven 100% true. Harry has really put his family through the wringer and unjustifiably.

If you have a dysfunctional sibling, there comes a time when you've finally had enough of their shenanigans and go into protection mode for your family and your own sanity.

Fuck Harry.

Harry is toxic

And, I should add from experience, this get worse once they get married because they always marry someone even more dysfunctional than they and they'll make life complicated and unpleasant for everyone, meanwhile, their spawn are growing into a personality disorder beasts. All along, everyone else is the problem.

- R109

why do people like him shift blame all the time and never accept the consequences? They are just so ungrateful and does not appreciate anything...

Charles was not that close to the boys, R73. He was busy with Camilla.

Sorry, R79.

I still can enjoy some of Lady C C's venom, but have stayed far away from her shit online because she is a Trump and Putin sympathizer, a British MAGA cunt, and a hater of free Ukraine.

About the interview, Buckingham Palace issued a statement:

"All of these issues have been examined repeatedly and meticulously by the courts, with the same conclusion reached on each occasion."

It would have been great if they had issued that with a "rolls eyes" emoji.

^^^Charlotte would have totally included that emoji.

[quote]R86 why does this have anything to do with what you want?

Because the royals are snugly and greedily fastened to the public teat! The taxpayer calls the tune.

He's fugly - discard.

As soon as Charles gives in Harry and grifter wife will ask for more outrages concessions. Charles and William hold your ground-Harry is dead.

Harry is the worst parts of Princess Diana.

r50 They had had gems and such sewn into their clothing such that many of the bullets just glanced off.

C'mon you blame the kid. Daddy had to wait until he was 80 to be KIng and he turns into a Royal Bitch.

I don’t think Harry would want to be with Meghan if she didn’t affirm his paranoia and grievances. It’s probably why he married an American in the first place. Can you imagine a Brit (or a Chelsy Davy) putting up with his constant whinging? We Americans want to affirm your feelings and let you speak your truth.

Meghan and Harry are perfectly suited to each other. She is the manipulator and he is manipulatee. He thinks that she is slaying his dragons while, in reality, she is pouring oil on the fire of his discontent. To have made sure Harry was isolated from her father, sister, and brother, and his father, brother, and sister-in-law is no small achievement. I hope he's good in the sack because, otherwise, she has to put up with a lot to become a royal celebrity.

Just go get a fucking job, you useless parasite.

Give me some empathy and compassion you evil vipers. My necklace was broken and I fell on a dog bowl.

He is really isolated from his entire family except for his York cousins. He also apparently has little contact with his longtime friends. The only friends he has now are probably friends he shares with Meghan as a couple.

If she dumps him (as she does to people she no longer needs), he is going to have a really rough time. She really no longer needs him. She got the Diana and Queen DNA for her kids and the title. She can now make money on her own. She probably longs for some handsome man who's intelligent enough to carry on an interesting conversation (and who has all his hair).

This fall—Sept or Oct—will be the real critical point: will Netflix renew their contract? Harry still has BetterUp and Invictus paying him but Megs will be high and dry except for her jam empire which has a lot of upfront costs. Look for her to be frantically scrambling later on in the summer.

^^^Her scramble will be a divorce. Everything she has done has failed. Her only grift left is getting Harry's money. It is going to be very ugly so she can write a tell all book and do interviews about how she was victimized because of racism. Like all Narcissists, she's two steps ahead of everyone, even if those two steps are stupid.

They’re all freaks in their own show—on all sides. You get what you pay for.

I wonder what Lady C knows? She was the first person to announce that the Queen was dead hours before the official announcement, and also that she had bone cancer

She’s a regular Cassandra

[quote] I hope he's good in the sack because, otherwise, she has to put up with a lot to become a royal celebrity.

I imagine it being a Charlotte Lucas/Mr. Collins situation, i.e., she doesn't have to put up with him much. She's busy with her "work", meeting up with her newly acquired Montecito rich bitches, beauty treatments and workouts, telling staff what to do ...

He's probably scheduled in for lunch slots and the occasional date night. And the lion's share of the child care when nanny is off duty.

Thank you R73 - I was reading through this shit-show of people who sound personally aggrieved by the Sussexes and wondering if I’d somehow mistakenly landed in the Daily Telegraph comments section. As far as I can see, the only reason to feel irked is the having to cough up more money, as a British taxpayer, for this family. As for the person trotting out the “never complain, never explain” cliche - it’s absurd to think any of the royals, with the possible exception of the queen, ever lived by this adage. Rarely has a family contained so many people who feel so wronged, so hard done by. I don’t think I’ve ever heard a single member of the royal family say something truly reflective or appreciative regarding their good fortune.

R78

Does Encyclopedia Britannica work for you? It’s an easy fact to Google and besides which, it’s well known that he had hemophilia- that’s how Rasputin came to be in the Romanov’s court.

No shit— I was heckling the fact that you needed to reference a source for what is one of the universally-known facts about that family—and that you chose “Russia Beyond” as THAT source. Please now explain that Booth shot Lincoln, with sources. TIA

R137

You’re insufferable - I used that paragraph not to highlight his hemophilia but to show what a grisly death they endured. It could have been from any source.

[quote]R132 I wonder what Lady C knows?

[quote]R133 She’s a regular Cassandra

The trans have often been seen as special, sensitive spirits in other cultures… like in Native American tribes. So I’m not surprised she has these visions.

You write poorly. Take it like a man.

Um, R135:

Prince William penned, “I count myself extremely lucky to have a role that allows me to meet people from all walks of life, and to understand their full story – whatever it may be. It’s a privilege that many of us, busy with our days, don’t always afford.”

"My daughter Daisy asked Kate what it was like to be a real princess, and Kate said she's very lucky that she's very well looked after by her husband."

'As my Heir, William now assumes the Scottish titles which have meant so much to me,' the new king said. 'He succeeds me as Duke of Cornwall and takes on the responsibilities for the Duchy of Cornwall which I have undertaken for more than five decades. Today, I am proud to create him Prince of Wales, Tywysog Cymru, the country whose title I have been so greatly privileged to bear during so much of my life and duty.'

Princess Anne: "PRINCESS Anne said last night that she was "a very lucky lady" to have the Queen and Duke of Edinburgh as parents. Speaking at her 50th birthday party, the Princess Royal said she was thankful for "an accident of birth" and "pretty fortunate" to have her royal residences and hobbies.

Who's Daisy?

[QUOTE] Prince William penned, “I count myself extremely lucky to have a role that allows me to meet people from all walks of life, and to understand their full story – whatever it may be. It’s a privilege that many of us, busy with our days, don’t always afford.”

This doesn’t even make sense.

He's met poor, normal, rich people all over the world- Africa, Asia, Australia, etc. Normal people don't have that opportunity, unless they actively seek it out.

Maybe Meghan and Harry will both reveal that they are trans.

It’s cute he still refers to Charles as his father.

And just how does he understand their "full story"? That sounds beyond presumptuous, if not delusional.

He will be devastated when his father dies, even in the unlikely event Charles asks to see him on his deathbed. Harry will have to realize that after he lost his mother at an early age, he then alienated himself from his father in his father's final years. Also, William probably hates him more now than ever for giving their father so much anxiety and pain while Charles wrestles with his illness.

I just don't see how William and Harry reconcile. They don't need each other. Both are grown men with their own families. I love my siblings but I could see circumstances where if there was a breach, in the end, you concentrate on your immediate life if you can't resolve it easily. And they're way past resolving easily. Kate might be able to facilitate some kind of rapprochement in future if there's been a Sussex divorce.

It's beyond him to grasp, but when Charles goes, Harry should avoid all the state activity and show respect for his father by attending only the family service like was given the Queen at Windsor, before burial. But no doubt he will be under significant pressure to get as much attention as possible.

I could imagine Harry demanding to be very visible at his father's state funeral, though, and bringing his wife and children. They would likely have a harder time sidelining him at that one than they did at the queen's funeral.

I cannot imagine Harry and Meghan at William's coronation.

And I'm sure he would love to be free of Meager Muckle

Oh come on R141, that’s Oscar-Acceptance-Speech-style blather. I’ve heard more reflective, penetrating, candid-sounding stuff from Miss World contestants. And just as when a Miss World contestant tells us how lucky she is and how she “wants to help the world’s children” or “end world hunger”, we know it’s an affected sentiment, so too can we recognise that heavily manicured and fussed over royal utterances and “writings” are not the same thing as a genuine feelings or insights or disclosures. I’m not saying they’re not capable of those - it’s just that the examples you put forward don’t come close.

[quote]I was reading through this shit-show of people who sound personally aggrieved by the Sussexes

*taps the sign*

"Celebrity gossip and pointless bitchery."

R152, it was asked and answered. I didn't expect anyone would be satisfied. But it's idiotic to demand they run about delivering reflections in public to satisfy your demands. Why? They do their jobs. They don't need to do Oprah too.

But curious, now, R152... what were you looking for from them? What would have satisfied you as sufficiently reflective or whatever it is or isn't they're not enough in your view?

R154 R155 - I’m not asking anything from them. I’m merely pointing out that they’ve never given any convincing indication that they’re appreciative. That guff from Prince William about getting to meet “people from all walks of life”! Pull the other one. His social circle is drawn from Debrett’s and Burke’s Peerage. Like the rest of his family, he goes to considerable lengths to make sure his contact with anyone “below the salt” is limited and very carefully stage managed. It’s as if they’re frightened that “lower-middle” or “nouveau” are contagious diseases or things that could rub off on them.

Would you expect to have a convincing indication they're appreciative, R156? If so, what would you expect to hear? You've got a strong opinion. I can't imagine what it would take to satisfy it, so educate us. What does a convincing indication they're appreciative look and sound like? You see a gap. Tell us how it would be filled.

R156 - pointing out the absence of something is not the same thing as demanding the presence of something. I’m not demanding that they be appreciative - I’m merely noting that they’re not. Indeed, every plausible behind-the-scenes account suggests a family quite unusually afflicted by ill will, jealousy, resentment over shared limelight, loathing of spouses etc etc.

I don't think William will allow Harry a prominent spot at Charles's funeral. Don't forget that it's a state occasion, not a private affair, and no doubt it has already been planned, including where Harry will be allowed to sit. And don't expect Harry or Meghan to be invited to William's coronation. I think that ship has sailed.

Yet you can't articulate how, r158. What would demonstrate sufficient presence to you? You must have some idea. Like your constant evasion of a sensible answer tells me you're a loud mouth spouting shit.

William’s statement reminded me of something a school kid might write for a book report when they didn’t read the book. Hot air.

R156 isn’t the one making claims about William, YOU are, R158. You provided a superficial, totally unverifiable statement William made and instead of showing that it proved your point you’re challenging others to prove it doesn’t. But William’s own words show what a shallow twit he is.

Biased bullshit, R161. Entirely subjective. Much like your rant. I'm done with. you morons on this one. Block is a beautiful thing.

For all I care they can spend every private moment bitching about how hard done by they are. All I expect is them not to do it publicly, which is where Harry fails. Neither you nor I knows what their private thoughts are , and it is doesn't matter.

LOL R162. Don't undermine your own argument from the get go with quotes that show the opposite of what you claim the next time.

This really sounds like Harry.

Many unempathetic comments in this thread. No matter what your circumstances, it is tough to accept if you have a parent who doesn’t love you and isn’t even very interested in you, especially if he’s the only living one you’ve had since you were a child.

^^^^ poor little prince

Money (and titles) can’t buy you love R167

But it sure as hell can buy you a hell of a lot else. if you're asking us to feel sorry for him, I think that's a bit much to ask.

Harry had his father's love until five years ago, when he started behaving like a gigantic asshole. He may well still has his love even now--it's just his father can't reconcile his son's awful behavior with his own responsibilities as monarch.

I'm using the desert dust to sop up my copious tears over Harry's terrible situation.

The poor dear.

R169 I didn’t say feel sorry, I said empathy. If you’re proud of not feeling that, no need to contradict my comment since you are agreeing with me

He is so pathetic. Harry made the choice to leave the monarchy. You don’t get to keep your salary and the company car when you leave. What he really wants is IPP status so he would have government paid security wherever he goes. All he has to do now is give 28 days notice, a threat assessment will be made and the appropriate level of security will be provided.

“Emm, emm, emm, emm, emm.” He’s such a moron.

R156 I see that you are unaware of the recent visit to Scotland.

R143 It makes sense if you have a three digit IQ.

I like Harry - good for him for blowing up this antiquated royal bullshit.

When your own dad won't talk to you - it's a fucked up system.

I'm glad he left and went his own way - he had no role to fulfill - just an empty life in dreary, damp UK cutting ribbons. Fuck that.

Harry hasn't "blown up" snything except his own opportunities and relationships. Oh well. The BRF must have been elated to see the backs of him and his puppet>master.

R139 Lady C is not “trans.” She was born with a genital malformation (fused labia.) Her parents desired a male child, raised her as such and forced her to take male hormones.

“When she reached 13, though, she began puberty – the female, hip-widening, boob-growing sort – and secretly went to her mum’s gynaecologist. However, when her mum found out, Lady Colin later told The Telegraph, she was sent to hospital ‘for the most terrifying three weeks of my life’ where she was injected, against her will, with male hormones, until her voice deepened, her nipples shrank and she developed facial hair.”

Horrible. Horrible as gay kids sent to a conversion camp.

R175 Why, then, is he clinging to royalty? Why is he wanting other people to pay for him?

To be fair his dad barely ever talked to him anyway. They don’t seem to have ever had much of a relationship and that’s on Charles. The only family members Harry seems close to are Beatrice and Eugenie.

Right. Harold whined how "his dad" never took him on bike rides like he does with Archibald. Google quickly revealed many pics of the two or three or four of them biking all over the UK Harold is a very poor liar.

[quote]To be fair his dad barely ever talked to him anyway.

Good lord, Harry's just looking for something to hang his swirling mess of indignation on. My own father ran an international corporation and travelled the world routinely, often taking my mother with him, with her reluctance to leave her 5 children (one special needs) at times. Yeah, we had a housekeeper running the show in my mother's absences. But you know what, I don't think any of us kids, now adults, feel slighted, it was just our reality. Compared to the truly heartbreaking stories I have heard from friends about their own childhood, I think Harry is making a whole lot of problems for himself. Time to adult Harry, time to adult.

r181 it also doesn’t sound like your mother died when you were 12 leaving you with a father you had a minimal relationship with who wasn’t there most of the time?

[quote] I'm glad he left and went his own way

If he had really gone "his own way," he would not be whining about security and about coming back, now, would he?

[quote] Right. Harold whined how "his dad" never took him on bike rides like he does with Archibald.

Harry and Meghan's son is named simply Archie Harrison, not "Archibald."

Good bye Prince Dumbass! May you reconcile with King William after the divorce and your shared custody arrangement.

How good of you to introduce your children to the cousins they barely know.

You could have simply blamed the press and bad media but you blamed the other family members too. Why would they ever speak to your two faced ass again!

[quote]it also doesn’t sound like your mother died when you were 12 leaving you with a father you had a minimal relationship with who wasn’t there most of the time?

A tough card to be dealt for sure, but if that's the hill you choose to die on as an adult, and as an adult continue to choose to make everyone around you miserable about it and all other perceived slights, well get some help, because there are scores upon scores of children world-wide who lost a parent in equally shocking, if not far more heinous and shocking, circumstances. We all have our demons, personality flaws, weaknesses, but only the weakest choose to make their problem everybody else's problem.

He's so dumb. "Royal duties were so hard everyone kissing our ass all the time! We had to make small talk and smile! And listen to their boring stories and pretend like we cared!"

[quote]The only friends he has now are probably friends he shares with Meghan as a couple.

That bitch has no friends. Her family hates her, and celebrities run away from her.

R186 who is around him that he’s making miserable? Meghan’s fine. His kids are fine. Charles and William aren’t talking to him so they don’t have to hear it. The public is personally unaffected emotionally.

He’s just expressing himself to an outlet that requested an interview with him. It’s not this attack on others (who?) that you’re making it out to be.

Most immature "royals" ever.

Poor Prince Harry, heir to trauma, not the throne. A life of palaces, polo, and private planes, yet somehow he’s the world’s most oppressed millionaire. One wonders how he manages to carry the crushing weight of his victimhood while juggling Netflix contracts and beachfront therapy.

He left a life of duty to build a brand of grievance, trading court appearances for podcast bookings and knighthood for keynote speeches on how hard it is to be adored by millions while misunderstood by relatives.

I do admire the boy’s courage though. It takes real bravery to survive the horrors of castles, designer suits, and people curtseying at you. He’s the Anne Frank of Montecito.

[QUOTE]it also doesn’t sound like your mother died when you were 12 leaving you with a father

Yes, a hard hand to be dealt, but his feelings of loss about his mother are probably complicated by the fact that she heavily favored William and the staff followed her lead. (Can we not forget Harry complaining in Spare how he always got fewer sausages at breakfast?) I don't think Charles had much of a hand in Harry's day-to-day upbringing.

She favored William so heavily and inappropriately that she treated him as a confidant to the point of sharing details about her romantic dalliances and bringing him, at least once, to a meeting with the press. (It was lunch with Piers Morgan where he was dumbfounded that the 14 year-old William demanded wine. In the presence of his mother, as though it were totally normal.)

Of course, Harry noticed the favoritism and his exclusion from such closeness with his mother. Diana also made some unfavorable comments about Harry's intellect. Something to the effect of "William is the smart one. Harry's like me." She had famously described herself as thick as a short plank. Harry must have gotten wind of this at some point. It's got to hurt.

It all cumulatively had to sting. I suspect he was angry with her at the time of her death and couldn't reconcile those negative feelings with the profound sense of loss. Then came the guilt. And he coped with the guilt by putting her on a pedestal and practically deifying her. FFS, he has a reliquary with a lock of her hair in it, as though she's a Catholic saint or something.

Yes, tl;dr. Short version: Diana is just as culpable for Harry's stunted development, if not more, as his perception of Charles's lack of interest and involvement.

I was 12 when my dad died unexpectedly, leading to a huge change in our lives - no money, pulled out of private school, Mum had to go to work for the first time ever, she started drinking and medicating heavily. Yeah it was a shit time, but I wasn’t still whining about it when I was 40.

With all the resources that he has had and continues to have at his disposal? He really should just shut the fuck up or book more sessions with his long suffering therapist or just go into one of his 16 bathrooms in Montecito and do his tapping therapy or fire up a couple more joints. His constant bleating is a fucking insult to those people who are truly suffering.

Oh for fucks sake. Isn't William older and bigger? Maybe they thought he would eat more. Can he really not ask for another sausage?

It's fucking sausage. Not exactly standing in line for a food bank every week.

[quote]Diana also made some unfavorable comments about Harry's intellect.

😂

R175 when ever a poster brings up “cutting ribbons” I know that I’m dealing with someone who has no fucking idea about the role and activities of the British Royal Family.

At least he has an empty life in sunny Montecito with his delightful, sincere and not-at all-shallow wife - so why is he still whining?

Sausages, broken necklaces, smashed dog bowls - he’s really focused on the big issues, isn’t he?

R196 maybe he loves and misses his father

I have to correct myself at r192. It was Paul Burrell who brought up the inequitable sausage distribution as validation of the petty jelousies that Harry brought up in Spare.

[QUOTE]Diana’s former butler Paul Burrell, who said that he once witnessed Harry being given two sausages by a nanny while William got one more. Burrell told British tabloid the Sun that Harry objected: “How come he gets three and I get only two?”

[QUOTE]Burrell said that their nanny replied: “William needs filling up more than you. He’s going to be king one day.”

[QUOTE]Burrell said: “When I look back now, I think maybe I was glimpsing the dynamic at play … Harry would fall quiet and suck it up, but that’s what he had to contend with, even in his own home.”

The father he forced away through monetising attacks on his family? Oh, that makes perfect sense!

R198 do you think that his wife loves and misses her father? Can you see a pattern here - narcs always work to isolate their mark from their close family and friends.

[quote]r148 William probably hates Harry more now than ever for giving their father so much anxiety and pain while Charles wrestles with his illness.

All Charles has to do is write a nice fat check (and a public apology) and Harry will forgive. But the old battle axe is saving all his ill gotten gold for the Bowles Woman. Pathetic.

r201, no, but her father is trash. I’m not a huge Charles fan but I wouldn’t compare them.

Lol as though William doesn’t hate Charles, he’s certainly not bitter toward Harry for causing dear old dad pain. There’s a reason you never see Will and Charles together except at huge formal events.

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Where else would you see them, R204? The next time that you pop over to Highgrove for a bbq or drop into Clarence House for a G&T with Camilla?

Unless you’re friends with any of them - highly doubtful - you couldn’t possibly know.

R202 Charles has already written a nice fat cheque on their departure from the UK five years ago and as for an apology - what precisely should he be apologizing for?

R292 who is the old battle axe, what is his ill-gotten gold and who is the Bowles woman?

You sound incredibly stupid.

R196 Scooby, Scooby doo, do tell us what they do do.

Please, sir, may I have some more?

R184 There are pictures of Harry on a bike with his father.

R182 My father was an alcoholic and my mother was very abusive, physically and emotionally. I lived in a children’s home for a time.

Harry lost his mother two weeks shy of his 13th birthday. He had a distant father who did care about him and two grandparents who loved him. All of his needs were met. He was offered a world class education. He’s never had to work to put a roof over his head or food on the table. He was offered a home. Yet, still he whines. Harry is a pathetic excuse for a human being who wallows in victimhood. This man-child of 40 needs to grow up.

[quote]r177 Lady C is not “trans.” She was born with a genital malformation (fused labia.)

Then what did her period come out of? Has anyone asked her that?

What did Harry do that was so bad?

R184 Really? This is happening more and more and it’s in incredibly bad taste. Children called “Jamie” instead of “James” on birth certificates or “Sophie” instead of “Sophia”. It’s incredibly arrogant to force people to use an informal/diminutive version of a name because it thrusts them into an intimacy with you before they’re ready - if I’ve only just met someone, why would I call him Archie, as if somehow an easy informality had already been established? It’s so crass. I’m noticing it with politicians in the U.K. too - there are several “Ed”s at the last count. Such an obvious manipulation.

But I suppose in this instance, it’s not surprising - Prince Harry has always used Harry, which really should have been reserved for people he was friendly with. It should have been Henry in all public-facing aspects of his life. It’s insulting to the public to imply we’re in some sort of cosy, we’re-all-friends-here relationship with him.

Harry reminds me of Michael Jackson after he turned himself into a whinging and whining professional victim, going on and on about how he never had a childhood.

It was announced when he was born that his names were Henry Charles Albert David but that he would be known as Prince Harry.

There was precedent - Charles’s great uncle the Duke of Gloucester was also Prince Henry but everyone called him Harry. Although in those days he would only be HRH except to close friends and family.

[quote]. I’m noticing it with politicians in the U.K. too - there are several “Ed”s at the last count. Such an obvious manipulation.

Did you never hear of a guy called Tony, r216?

I agree that Harry should have been Henry. First, it would have honoured Prince Henry, Duke of Gloucester and thus he might have had a greater sense of his role and duties and respected them more. Second, it "cutsifies" him and gives the impression that he was to be the "fun" one, not necessarily doing anything serious.

I was clearing out some old things in the loft the other day and came across a big fold-out royal family genealogy from about 30-something years ago. Harry was down as Henry there, so there was a period when he was a kid when Henry was still used formally, albeit rarely.

R218 While there’s certainly an unmistakable conceitedness in telling people to use a diminutive or hypocorism, regardless of whether or not they want to, going one step further and using a hypocorism like Archie as a child’s actual birth certificate name is far worse - if it’s done knowingly, it’s a horrible combination of barbarism, presumptuousness and pretentiousness, if it’s done unknowingly, it’s pig ignorant