Emma Watson, Eddie Redmayne, Paapa Essiedu sign open letter in denouncing April 17 Supreme Court Ruling

The letter

Why denounce the Supreme Court for simply clarifying what the law says? Campaign and find the votes to change the legislation to make it inclusive of trans people. And if you can't find those votes because the majority of the population is against you, then tough luck.

As for wanting the courts to save them – the older I get, the less fond I am of legislating from the bench, even when the verdicts go our way. Both Roe and Obergefell were a mistake, and they led us to where we are now. Every judicial "win" like that seems to come with a terrible price decades down the line.

The interesting thing is how few “names” are signatories. There are a few earnest activist types like Nicole Coughlan and Ken Loach. The expected NB/queer Zillenials. A few B-List men like Joe Alwyn and James D’Arcy. Then, uh, Neve Campbell.

The actors are primarily of the ilk who have 3 episodes of Hollyoaks/2 episodes of Doctor Who/1 episode the Sister Boniface Mysteries to their credit.

They are forced to sign under threat of being cancelled if they refuse to comply.

Why do continually drag intersex people into this? For one that community prefers to refer to their conditions as a DSD differences in sex development. Their conditions are sex specific and they are not in between or non binary:

UK Supreme Court got it right.

Fuck my legacy!

Fuck my stinkditch!

Are these idiots demanding that the Supreme Court reverses its ruling and declare that the term "woman" as used in the Equality Act be considered to mean not just females but also males who "identify as" women? I doubt such a law exists anywhere in the world.

Why in the world is this such a big deal? A chick with a dick ain’t a chick. Watching people argue about this in circles really is bizarre, even for 2025.

Rowling’s pro-women views OP. She doesn’t have anti-trans views and despite this wearying accusation being made time and time again you will find no evidence to support your position. Not sure what the people sending the letter are actually on about. The law has been clarified by the Supreme Court not made by the SC.

"Non-binary" is made up bullshit.

*YAWN*

Emma Twatson

A twat is something no transwoman will ever have, r14.

Protect the Dolls!

‘Protect the Dolls’ T-shirt becomes a fashion symbol for trans rights

Celebrities including Pedro Pascal are wearing the design as they embrace its message in support of trans women

When the designer Conner Ives took his bow after his London fashion week show this February, he wore a T-shirt that proclaimed “Protect the Dolls”. Two months later, the design – and its message supporting trans women, who are affectionately called “dolls” in the LGBTQ+ community – has become ever more popular.

The singer Troye Sivan wore it to perform at Coachella, and the actor Pedro Pascal wore it for the London premiere of the film Thunderbolts, just days after the supreme court ruled that when the Equality Act referred to women, it only meant biological sex and did not include transgender women.

Ives initially saw the T-shirt as a one-off statement, but demand changed that. On sale on his website for £75, about 5,000 orders have been placed in the last month. With proceeds going to the American organisation Trans Lifeline, as of Thursday evening Ives estimated it had raised about £380,000, with “that figure going up by the hour”.

The designer, an American based in London, says the T-shirt was a response to anti-trans policies put in place by Donald Trump, and in support of trans friends including the model Hunter Pifer. Even he has been surprised by how popular it is. “I never had that intention when I was doing it,” he says. “I was just like ‘this is what I want to say. This is what feels right’ and it turned into something else.”

If you hashtag “protect the dolls” on X you get some interesting results

R16, trans rights activists have no argument beyond a simplistic t-shirt slogan. They could never explain in coherent terms just why biological males should legally be considered women, why lesbians have to make themselves sexually available to men or why male rapists should be housed in women's prisons. That's why they try to shut down any debate, because deep down they know they're incapable of debating.

By all means, protect those dolls, Pedro, but please leave actual women out of it. Cheers.

Yawn. These misogynists are exhausting.

Many of the trans themselves actually dislike the apparently affectionate term "dolls":

What I find most interesting about this isn't the celebrities signing a letter that clearly gets the law wrong, but who is considered worthy of getting their name put at the top of the list and who isn't.

Emmas Watson, D'arcy and Corrin (all very posh girls) didn't sign it when first released but their names get pushed to the top but less famous actors like Callum Scott Howells and Ambika Mod are placed lower. Actual trans actors like Annie Wallace and Rebecca Root are clearly 4th tier actors.

Yeah, it's hilarious how they arranged the signatories so that the "famous" ones are at the top and the unknowns underneath, regardless of alphabetical order or date of signing.

It just goes to show that this is a media campaign to cast aspersions of "transphobia" at the Supreme Court and also try to get some bad publicity for JK Rowling (although, this kind of thing only ever puts her in a better light). It's not a sincere attempt to put forward arguments as to why the Supreme Court ruling should be reversed or why the Equality Act should include biological men in the category of women.

The only argument they put forward in that letter is:

[quote]The Supreme Court’s ruling that, under the Equality Act, ‘woman’ is defined by biological sex, states that “the concept of sex is binary, a person is either a woman or a man”. We believe the ruling undermines the lived reality and threatens the safety of trans, non-binary, and intersex people living in the UK.

Aside from the fact that they deliberately overlook the assertion that sex is binary (because they know they can't argue against it) they also never bother to explain what "the lived reality" of trans people is. Is a transwoman really living the life of a biological woman, or a transman the life of a biological man? I doubt it very much. Let me know when a transwoman's "reality" includes having a period or a transman's lived reality includes having a penis. Nor do they explain why the ruling puts trans people's safety at risk, while also sidestepping the opportunity to argue against the "other side's" argument that including biological men in the category of women puts women at risk - because they know they can't argue against that. They also follow the usual trans activist tactic of mishmashing different groups (trans, non-binary, and intersex). Do non-binary people or males with a disorders of sex development want to be legally included in the category of women? How is their "lived reality" impacted by this ruling?

The trans rights activists have never bothered with putting forward clear and reasonable legal demands, building organisations to promote these demands, working hard to establish a workable legal framework, to lobby politicians, etc. All they know is smearing, shaming, pressuring, tantrums, piggybacking on the organisations other groups (especially gays) have worked hard to build up.

I agree R23.

The Supreme Court has ruled what the laws says, not what the law should be or what politicians who voted for it really intended for it to mean. What comes next is arguing how the law should be changed, and Stonewall's insistence on No Debate mean it's back to the drawing board as far as efforts to change the law goes. That means going into TV studios and sitting down with people who disagree with them and not talking about ideology but how the law will work.

But as Nicola Sturgeon found out, if you genuinely believe trans women are women and no safeguards are needed to protect women from men abusing the system, then have the balls to say trans women are women even if they're convicted rapists. Sturgeon refusing to use pronouns and simply calling Adam Graham/Isla Bryson a rapist was completely humiliating for her. Calling people racist or far right because they're laughing at you won't cut it any more.

I'd like to think trans people/politicians who support self ID will group and organise and coordinate a response and plan a legal change, but there is a such a sense of entitlement there will just more more videos of people crying in their cars.

[quote]Sturgeon refusing to use pronouns and simply calling Adam Graham/Isla Bryson a rapist was completely humiliating for her.

It also means it's implicitly understood that "trans women are women UNLESS" (that is, unless they misbehave/break the law/abuse their rights, etc.). That makes the whole system untenable, because if Adam Bryson or Barbie Kardashian are treated differently from female prisoners on account of their actions, the public understands that being perceived as a woman is a privilege that is conditional and can be removed at any time.

Beyond that, there are few things politicians hate more than losing credibility and being humiliated, and they have certainly taken note of what happened to Nicola Sturgeon.

[quote]If you hashtag “protect the dolls” on X you get some interesting results.

That's one way of putting it.

I also think it's interesting that there's no popular T-shirt about "protecting" trans men.

There's also been a musician version of the letter

This one groups the A listers in alphabetical order first and then everyone else in random order.

If we are talking about genuine trans people the numbers are vanishingly small - why re-arrange the world? If we are talking about straight men deciding they are women the numbers there are far larger and men generally get what they want. Isn’t that true Martine Rothblatt? Still holding onto your cock doll?

English people are so completely fucking insane about this.

It’s important to take a stand , don’t give in , be loud, be strong , think of stonewall, the trans community needs your public support.

R2 this is a UK issue not the USA. You know that right?

Yes and my point still stands.

R31 please ignore that idiot R32.

[quote] If we are talking about straight men deciding they are women the numbers there are far larger

Link please

Has the MtF trans are mostly all straight guys troll returned?

[quote]English people are so completely fucking insane about this.

The Supreme Court ruling was about the meaning of "sex" - does "sex" mean biological sex or does it mean legal sex. Had the ruling meant that "sex" meant legal sex then it would have weakened gay rights protections. A couple of two men or two women would be comparable in law with a heterosexual couple where one of them has changed their legal sex.

The Supreme Court ruling also confirmed that females who are legally trans men are entitled to maternity and pregnancy protection, which no one seems to want to talk about.

And as many public services have been pressured by Stonewall into accepting self ID, including prisons, it would have meant MORE male rapists in women's prisons and MORE heterosexual men in dresses demanding access to women's changing rooms, more women committing sex offences. Look at the BBC article below from 5 years ago - nowhere does it say that "Julie" is a man, either biologically or legally.

Now do you really think this man is a "trans woman" and member of the LGBTQ+ community or do you think he is a predatory sex offender trying to game the criminal justice system? Spoiler - a year after this story he was convicted of abusing a little girl over many years.