Important questions are being raised about 9/11 as evidence surfaces in a lawsuit against the Saudi government filed by families of the people killed in the 2001 terrorist attacks.
Recently surfaced 9/11 evidence includes video of Capitol, airplane sketch
by Anonymous | reply 74 | May 2, 2025 6:48 AM |
It's more evidence that George W. Bush's administration allowed this to happen to us to get us to start a war over oil and specialty minerals.
by Anonymous | reply 1 | April 28, 2025 7:40 PM |
Not it's not. But it's more evidence that the GWB administration neglected or actively covered up Saudi government connections, the better to contrive excuses for going in to Iraq.
by Anonymous | reply 2 | April 28, 2025 8:36 PM |
If Trump's henchmen walked free for Jan. 6th, then it would be hypocritical to punish the Saudis for just doing research.
by Anonymous | reply 3 | April 29, 2025 3:25 AM |
Does this feel like a long time ago to you guys?
by Anonymous | reply 4 | April 29, 2025 3:28 AM |
Of course Bush covered up any Saudi involvement.
All the attackers were Saudi (except maybe one). Everyone related to the Saudi royal family was put on a plane the next day and sent from the US to safety in Saudi Arabia
by Anonymous | reply 5 | April 29, 2025 3:34 AM |
And we’ve always been up Saudi’s ass. I bet 85% of people say Eye-rack did it.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | April 29, 2025 6:58 AM |
R3 = the lawyer representing the Saudis.
Unfortunately, that is a sound defense!
I hate what's happening to this country, but I guess information like this just proves it's been happening for a very long time, long before I and millions of others had a fucking clue.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | April 29, 2025 7:08 AM |
Please, didn’t if come out the US knew Japan was going to attach Pearl Harbor, but let it happen anyway? That war made us a super power.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | April 29, 2025 7:31 AM |
15 were from Saudi Arabia, 2 from the UAE, 1 from Egypt, and 1 from Lebanon. I'm sure they had a network of people assisting them in the US.
I really believe that Western politicians are on the payroll of several Arab countries and have been for decades. They have basically opened the gates to muslims. Even in NYC the muslim population has grown exponentially since about 2005. We are going to pay dearly for this.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | April 29, 2025 7:42 PM |
90% of the conspiracies are a distraction and absurd, but I believe we don't knoe the real truth at all. Gone too far down the rabbit hole and uncovered how much was known about it ahead of time by quite a few intelligence agencies, what the 9/11 Commission report omitted, weird details about the training of some of the hijackers, story of a doublr agent, etc.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | April 29, 2025 7:52 PM |
To be clear, even tho I think there is a much deeper conspiracy involved, I'm not denying that there were Islamic hijackers, that planes brought down the buildings. Etc. Those details are true
by Anonymous | reply 11 | April 29, 2025 7:55 PM |
My father was a retired fireman at the time and he was getting information from friends still on the NYFD. There were no explosives in the WTC or WTC 7 buildings. It was a collapse from structural failure.
I still have a hard time, even to this day, comprehending that 343 firemen were killed, one of whom was a friend of mine I had seen two days before. They're not supposed to die in those numbers. Then to think an estimated 1,700 people died in Lower Manhattan that day. Thousands were injured and hundreds died in the past 24 years from lung disease (including a cousin who was an ironworker at the site) and cancers.
Almost 3,000 people died that day. I don't think we ever really came to terms with it all, if there is such a thing.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | April 29, 2025 8:07 PM |
R8 no. Bullshit.
by Anonymous | reply 13 | April 29, 2025 8:11 PM |
It's not complicated, Bush was no 3D chess player. Like Trump, he was buddies with the Saudi Gov and there was no way he was going to wage a war against them. That's why the very next day all the members of the Saudi Royal family were put on airplanes and some jets and flown back to the middle east without any news coverage about it until years later.
He basically just told the FBI to bury it somewhere while Condi Rice told America we need to bomb a different country because "we don't want to find out they have nuclear weapons in the form of a mushroom cloud." Which of course we found out they had none. US then proceed to attack two other countries for what should have been Saudi Arabia.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | April 29, 2025 8:32 PM |
^^^they NYTs was complicit. It opened my eyes to the A section propaganda. They fucking lied about Biden's cognitive state for at least two years.
by Anonymous | reply 15 | April 29, 2025 9:00 PM |
I still don’t understand why a building two blocks away collapsed and a fucking glass structure right across the street remained intact. For goodness sake even the Deutsche Bank Building right in the shadow of the towers sustained substantial damage but didn’t collapse.
But a building not even hit falls to the ground - very weird.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | April 29, 2025 10:01 PM |
You’re full of shit. It caught fire, and slowly burned through until the structural steel melted—causing collapse.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | April 29, 2025 11:31 PM |
The Bush planned and planted bombs in the 9/11 towers to blow them up so he could lead America to war against Hussein Irack as retribution for his dad!
That's the real conspiracy!!
by Anonymous | reply 18 | April 29, 2025 11:54 PM |
Just like JFK - we all know intuitively something fucked up happened around this.
They still have never shown any film evidence of what hit the Pentagon.
Republicans wanted a war - for oil, for military contracts for their big political donors, to take away rights, etc.
Republicans are evil - I don't know how many times we've been shown that and people don't believe it. They made a deal with Iran to keep the hostages to hurt Jimmy Carter. Iran Contra was TRUE and nobody cared.
There are countless items and the press just gets bored and doesn't cover it. We have truly evil people in our government and business world - and they're all Republicans.
by Anonymous | reply 19 | April 30, 2025 12:04 AM |
I also have to say that I always felt safe knowing my friend, and all those firemen and NYPD were on duty. It really fucked me up that he and all those men who are here to protect us all were massacred. De&th to islam. I fucking hate these people..
R14
by Anonymous | reply 20 | April 30, 2025 12:07 AM |
^^^ R12
by Anonymous | reply 21 | April 30, 2025 12:09 AM |
The 9/11 hijackers were almost all Saudis. Yet the US went into Iraq and Afghanistan in response.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | April 30, 2025 12:17 AM |
R22 - but all those tasty oil wells we saw during the Gulf War when Iraq invaded Kuwait. So tasty - how could you just walk past an opportunity like that?
by Anonymous | reply 23 | April 30, 2025 12:20 AM |
Oh look, the Reynold Wrap hat brigade has woken up and back to trolling websites with their 9/11 conspiracies. Hey girls! How ya been??
by Anonymous | reply 24 | April 30, 2025 12:25 AM |
R22, that fact is insane. What was also insane is that the NYTs supported this, including Thomas L. Friedman who still writes a daily column for the NYTs to this day
I was still naive then and I want to several anti-war protests. The NYTs lied about everyone of them, if they even reported on them. Do not trust the msm. The A section of the NYTs is all lies and propaganda.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | April 30, 2025 12:32 AM |
Even without this new video, it was always obvious the Saudis were involved in 9/11.
Fun fact: Even before international flights had resumed after 9/11, the first flights out of the US after 9/11 were for Saudi nationals leaving America, as per executive authority by GWB. Passengers included relatives of Saudi diplomats and government, but also a few relatives of the attackers. No TSA agents or customs were involved nor were the names documented. This story had come out by some airport workers just days after it occurred.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | April 30, 2025 12:33 AM |
We know one thing for sure, a lot of people suffered before they died under heinous circumstances.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | April 30, 2025 1:00 AM |
R5 quite a few of them came to Switzerland. I started working for them soon after.
by Anonymous | reply 28 | April 30, 2025 1:02 AM |
I guarantee all the Western politicians are being paid off to make the islamization of the West happen and they have for decades, especially the French.
by Anonymous | reply 29 | April 30, 2025 1:20 AM |
R17 HOW did it catch on fire? I walked down there, I have video of it. There are at least ten other buildings on the periphery of the Trade Towers that did not catch fire, let alone collapse. This building wasn’t even on the periphery. Century 21 literally right next door, a frigging glass building, was just about fully intact. I’ll see if I can find my video to post.
The day was so tragic that nobody questioned anything. But I do remember it striking a lot of people in NYC as odd. It was like, “Wait, what…?”
by Anonymous | reply 30 | April 30, 2025 6:32 AM |
If the motive was to get the USA into a war with Iraq, they could have done it with a few car bombs. Or at the very least they could destroy a building in a less pivotal area of the US. They wouldn’t do something that could cause the failure of our entire financial system.
Why is this something people want to believe?
by Anonymous | reply 31 | April 30, 2025 7:07 AM |
R30 you need more Reynolds’s Wrap for your headpiece.
by Anonymous | reply 32 | April 30, 2025 11:25 AM |
R31, you think a few car bombs is enough to justify an illegal war with congressional approval?
Sit. Down.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | April 30, 2025 11:36 AM |
The Bush administration allowed it to happen because their entire “private” platform was to invade Iraq and seize the oil fields in Kuwait.
If anyone recalls, the 1st 8 months of the Bush administration was nothing. They did nothing. W went home to Texas for the weekends. There was a minor skirmish with a Chinese aircraft on a runway some place. Otherwise, nothing. No initiatives whatsoever.
Then, all hell broke loose. It was like they couldn’t even pretend to have other interests, pre-9/11. They were just biding their time, ignoring field reports of Saudi nationals receiving flight training in WI.
I suspect they didn’t think it would be as spectacular as it was. But it served their purpose.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | April 30, 2025 11:42 AM |
R31 I am not saying anything more than it was very odd that that particular building fell as well when the Twin Towers were surrounded by buildings that remained standing. Some directly across the street from it were unscathed while others next to it were damaged pretty badly but did not fall. So you have this building that was not as close to it but collapsed completely - seven hours later…
And when you look at building 7 right after the collapse, it doesn’t even look like there was ANY damage to it. There was more damage certainly to the Deutsche Bank building. The building doesn’t even look in fire. How did it catch on fire badly enough for it to collapse?
by Anonymous | reply 35 | April 30, 2025 12:47 PM |
There was a considerable amount of government information files that was incriminating to some top Bush people, and it was stored at WTC7 that was lost along the ruins.
by Anonymous | reply 36 | April 30, 2025 1:05 PM |
Please. My government doesn’t lie to me.
by Anonymous | reply 37 | April 30, 2025 1:10 PM |
Also, a significant amount of cash and bearer bonds were "lost" when WTC7 collapsed.
by Anonymous | reply 38 | April 30, 2025 1:12 PM |
I agree, R12. As a native New Yorker, that is a day that will remain seared in my memory forever.
I still vividly recall just sitting on my couch that day, with my mouth hanging open, in total disbelief as I watched those planes hit the towers repeatedly on the news.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | April 30, 2025 1:27 PM |
R30 don't you know, uncontrolled fires are the new science behind steel building demolition.
by Anonymous | reply 40 | April 30, 2025 1:46 PM |
WTC1 and WTC2 had planes inside them that already structurally compromised the buildings, along with the burning jet fuel up to 1500 degrees. Collapsing under the weight is scientific logical.
WTC7 had none of that. It was intentionally demolished.
by Anonymous | reply 41 | April 30, 2025 2:13 PM |
R41- meh - WTC was designed to withstand a crash from a large jet. Supposedly the heat from the fires weren't accounted for in the design - which I don't believe. How do you NOT account for fires if you're calculating the impact of a jet flying into the building? Engineers weren't that dumb.
It's possible they accounted the fuel for a landing plane whereas these had pretty full tanks. It still seems weird though - we've never seen buildings fall in on themselves like that before.
And how lucky were the hijackers that they picked the same day when they were doing a military test exercise so people were confused whether this was real or part of the exercise? And that it took some time to get fighter jets into the sky because of the confusion. REALLY good timing, don't you think?
by Anonymous | reply 42 | April 30, 2025 2:30 PM |
It was designed to withstand a standard size plane, not a large jet loaded with fuel.
by Anonymous | reply 43 | April 30, 2025 3:13 PM |
R12, I’m sorry for your loss, but thank you for your comments. I watched the anniversary documentary and was blown away by how not one of the firefighters hesitated to go into that building. So tragic and such a waste.
A lot of the footage from that day has been scrubbed and edited. I know because I watched it and saw the original footage with my own eyes.
by Anonymous | reply 44 | April 30, 2025 3:36 PM |
I started studying islam after 9/11. We have a real problem on our hands.
- R12
by Anonymous | reply 45 | April 30, 2025 5:11 PM |
R36 yes because the *only* copy of every file you mention was there.
Get a life, Rosie
by Anonymous | reply 46 | April 30, 2025 5:16 PM |
[quote] Republicans are evil
Grow up. People in both parites are evil.
by Anonymous | reply 47 | April 30, 2025 5:16 PM |
R42 no one was confused after see jet planes fly into the side of two buildings visible for miles around.
by Anonymous | reply 48 | April 30, 2025 5:17 PM |
*parties. Maybe GOP are more evil. Overall. But it's not like GOP are bad, Dems are good. Not even close.
by Anonymous | reply 49 | April 30, 2025 5:18 PM |
Dems are EVIL? Really?
by Anonymous | reply 50 | April 30, 2025 5:29 PM |
To R26, you forgot the 2 planeloads of Bin Liden's family was flown out on 2 747 planes that traveled the USA picking up Osama's immediate family. My Saudi clients in London called me& told me what was happening in London.
2 weeks later, his Rolls Royce blow up!
by Anonymous | reply 51 | April 30, 2025 5:47 PM |
We have to accept that hundreds of thousand muslims want to kill us and the supposed peaceful muslims say nothing about this intended genocide of their neighbors.
by Anonymous | reply 52 | April 30, 2025 5:48 PM |
R47 - please tell me the evil things Dems have done in the past 50 years that compares to:
1) Keeping Iranian hostages for political advantage 2) Iran Contra 3) Running up the deficit by trillions 4) Starting a war with Iraq by lying about their nuclear weapons 5) TRUMP 6) Taking away a women's right to choose - or have basic healthcare in case of a bad pregnancy 7) Systematically taking away people's right to vote and overturning elections they don't like 8) Empowering white nationalists and racists to actually MAKE policy and endorse their racist opinions
Please provide examples of what Dems have done in any measure that compares to this. And I had to stop myself from listing more items because it was pissing me off.
They ARE evil.
by Anonymous | reply 53 | April 30, 2025 5:55 PM |
So many misguided people like Pat Tillman enlisting after 9/11 to fight the “terrorists” and end up dying in Iraq and Afghanistan.
by Anonymous | reply 54 | April 30, 2025 7:27 PM |
Repugs are evil. Dems are ineffectual.
by Anonymous | reply 55 | April 30, 2025 7:31 PM |
R55 - well, it's hard to be effective when the other side doesn't play by rules, have any morals, and lies with no abandon.
People act like Dems are up against a sane, rational opposition of integrity. They are not.
by Anonymous | reply 56 | April 30, 2025 7:33 PM |
It is really hard to know all this shit. I saw it in the late 90s in London. I educated myself about islam after 9/11. There is a horror show up ahead that none of us can deal with.
by Anonymous | reply 57 | April 30, 2025 8:14 PM |
If one studies history and has critical thinking skills, they will discover that some “conspiracy theories” tell the truth of what really went down. Many original CIA Ops Memos are documented in the National Archives.
The 9/11 event leads back to CIA’s Operation Northwoods, 1962, when our Military was determined to attack Cuba, but didn’t want to piss off Russia.
Wiki: Operation Northwoods was a proposed false flag operation that originated within the Department of Defense of the United States government in 1962. The proposals called for Central Intelligence Agency operatives to both stage and commit acts of terrorism against American military and civilian targets, blame them on the Cuban government, and use them to justify a war against Cuba. The possibilities detailed in the document included the remote control of civilian aircraft which would be secretly repainted as U.S. Air Force planes,[2] a fabricated 'shoot down' of a U.S. Air Force fighter aircraft off the coast of Cuba, the possible assassination of Cuban immigrants, sinking boats of Cuban refugees on the high seas,[3] blowing up a U.S. ship, and orchestrating terrorism in U.S. cities.[2][4] The proposals were rejected by President John F. Kennedy.[5][6][7]
by Anonymous | reply 58 | April 30, 2025 8:49 PM |
Long response so highlighting above - The possibilities detailed in the document included the remote control of civilian aircraft which would be secretly repainted as U.S. Air Force planes,[2] a fabricated 'shoot down' of a U.S. Air Force fighter aircraft off the coast of Cuba.
by Anonymous | reply 59 | April 30, 2025 8:56 PM |
R54 Yes, Tillman was in retrospect misguided. But he did join the military in an act of altruism and in good faith.
by Anonymous | reply 60 | April 30, 2025 9:03 PM |
On Iraq, I was in the camp of “OK, if they truly do have WMDs, then you have my support. But you better be right. I obviously have no way of knowing.”
In the end I don’t think W was evil or stupid. He just wasn’t smart enough for the job or for the moment. And our country has paid one hell of a price for electing the wrong person in 2000. In many ways, it was the precursor event that has led us all to the horrible times we live in now.
by Anonymous | reply 61 | April 30, 2025 9:07 PM |
I did not believe the WMD claims until Colin Powell testified at the UN and presented fabricated evidence. I wrongly assumed he was a man of integrity and would not destroy his decades of service to promote lies. But like a good soldier, he followed his orders to tell lies on the world stage. I hope that wherever he is today, his soul and body are burning for all eternity.
by Anonymous | reply 62 | April 30, 2025 9:24 PM |
^^^I'm sure he is burning in HELL-with no integrity or Honor^^^^
by Anonymous | reply 63 | April 30, 2025 9:27 PM |
Seems Cheney and Rumsfeld were the puppet masters.
Blame aside, our government pulled that off. Scared us into compliance.
The “shock and awe” worked. So much so that most people can’t see the buildings actually exploded in the air and turned to dust. The only rubble found, incinerated steel beams, was shipped to China immediately. No studies of how two skyscrapers completely failed, even though that had NEVER happened in 100 year history of steel buildings.
The buildings were built with redundancy, built to withstand 737s hitting them. They did stand for an hour after planes hit. Then imploded.
The third building, Bldg 7 not hit by a plane, collapsed at free fall speed later that afternoon.
Does not add up. Physics is real.
by Anonymous | reply 64 | April 30, 2025 9:27 PM |
I remember hearing in my New England town spring 2001 that a big catastrophic attack on US soil was going to happen soon. So someone knew something, even if they didnt know exactly where or what was going to happen.
by Anonymous | reply 65 | April 30, 2025 9:37 PM |
Wall St. knew enough ahead of time to place many Put orders (betting the stock will fall) on American Airlines.
Around 20 times over the typical amount of Put orders for AA.
by Anonymous | reply 66 | April 30, 2025 10:15 PM |
Wall Street didn't have that info. The clients who placed the put orders had the knowledge. Saudis, for example.
by Anonymous | reply 67 | April 30, 2025 11:51 PM |
R61 But did we elect him?
by Anonymous | reply 68 | May 1, 2025 2:29 AM |
R47, learn how to fucking spell a word correctly, before telling people to “grow up”, ass-wipe.
No adult should spell as poorly as you do.
Learn to catch details, & correct errors, like REAL grown up people do.
by Anonymous | reply 69 | May 1, 2025 2:51 AM |
I always found it strange that both Towers fell within a short time of each other.
by Anonymous | reply 70 | May 1, 2025 2:56 AM |
R47/R49:
Don’t the Chinese offer top notch English classes to trolls, such as yourself?
It baffles me how foreign trolls believe they’re not easily spotted. That’s OK. The Chinese are diligent little fuckers who QUICKLY learn from their mistakes, & IMMEDIATELY take action to remediate all errors, which is why they will soon rule the world.
Too bad my fellow Americans haven’t caught on to this ‘perfectionist’ modus-operandi, as of yet.
That’s why the Chinese are winning, & will continue to - because we as Americans, have given up the game by barely ever hitting targets.
Placing these people on tariffs will not cripple them. They have gone through the WORST, & will abuse the fuck out of all of their little guys, in order to hit the mark and WIN.
Americans, if you want to win? Start thinking like a Chinese wage slave.
Don’t believe the bullshit hype about how bad immigrants have it here, in America. I’ve seen it with my own eyes when I lived in Georgia, & while it is ABSOLUTELY AWFUL, let me remind you that MANY poultry/meat processing plants are owned by the Chinese, & the ONLY reason we have a mere modicum of protection, is because of federal regulations.
The shit you hear on the news 24/7 about Russia is ALL BULLSHIT. Russia is a noble, yet antiquated & toothless paper tiger. Our REAL threat are the CPPoC. THEY are the people Trump actually is beholden to.
If you have yet to understand how the ENTIRE world economy is beholden to these psychopaths? Then you’re an uneducated, fucking IDIOT.
What bothers me is the hypocrisy from Trump, the administration, & ALL powerful politicians in the GOP & the Dems, who brush it all off to ‘Russia’.
Look, Russia is poor AF and have NOTHING without the Chinese.
Get FACTUALLY educated, & learn how these heartless FUCKERS have us, and the ENTIRE world, by the short hairs right now, as I type.
I LOATHE what Trump’s admin is currently doing, but you MUST understand that who they MUST go after, are the Chinese, & I do wonder why it is that I, as a true blue democrat, understands this, while I NEVER witness other democrats bringing this up!
Cripple these PSYCHOPATHS. Cripple them all day, EVERY DAY, & let’s find ways of sourcing our goods from governments who do NOT find it acceptable to deal with people who commit foul & loathesome human rights violations, regularly.
I once ordered shit from these bastards regularly, & I have placed an actual stop-gap on this, because Chinese Communists are NOT good people, & will easily bury you, your kids, and your pets, for mere pennies on the dollar.
It’s a true story, & Trump is an idiot for not sussing out how to cripple these fuckers in a way that actually matters, & makes a difference globally.
by Anonymous | reply 71 | May 1, 2025 3:21 AM |
R53, just to play the devil’s advocate - Democrats have been known to stand in the doorway of Universities forbidding black students from entering - claiming "segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever."
by Anonymous | reply 72 | May 1, 2025 11:59 AM |
R72 You do understand the distinction of Southern Democrats in the 1950s and 1960s. The local elected Democrats would defend the Jim Crow Laws, which is why the racists kept voting for them. Once Democrat Lyndon Johnson got the Civil Right Act and the Right To Vote Act passed, they all flipped and because Republican. Then Republicans would do whatever they could despite Jim Crow being legally abolished to retain much of the racist practices and culture.
by Anonymous | reply 73 | May 2, 2025 12:04 AM |
Yes I do r73, but you didn’t make that distinction to begin with. Now you do. The only thing I’ll give you is that you did say in the last 50 years, and George Wallace was 62 years ago.
by Anonymous | reply 74 | May 2, 2025 6:48 AM |