Trump's Approval Sinks into the 30s

And yet Republican members of Congress will not move a muscle.

Why should he care? It's the Congressional Republicans that need to worry; he couldn't care less. And, as long as the Congressional Republicans continue to lick his butt, he'll get what he wants. A If they lose midterms, he will have done what he wanted to do, so fuck them.

Good. Hitler he ain’t.

This is horrible on so many levels, and the damage to our government is major already — but he’s actually holding a weakening hand. Both domestically and geopolitically.

A SMALL and weakening hand

I wish this would happen in September 2028.

[quote] Hitler he ain’t.

During the campaign last year I expected that if he won, the one silver lining was that his Hitleresque ambitions would fail to find Nazi-level popularity because the Nazis had two things he wouldn't: a genuinely booming economy (whereas all of T-Rump's policies tended towards economic disaster) and saber-rattling imperialism (whereas T-Rump ran on "peace," i.e. ceding clout to Russia; his subsequent claims over Greenland and Canada aren't exactly raising his numbers).

Curious how they can make the white house office look tacky and cheap.

But look at those Repubican numbers 70-75% approval on all of this shit.

They really are a cancer on America.

We still have 3 years, 8 months of his nonsense.

R8 so true - but 26% among Independents is encouraging.

Trump was at a 39% approval rating at the100 day mark during his 1st term too. And back then, he hadn't yet completely tanked the economy, so this is actually quite disheartening.

This isn't unexpected and exactly why I believe the election results were tampered with. He won all the battleground states. I'm not buying it.

R11, he hasn't really tanked the economy yet this time, either. So far it's more the threat of tariffs rather than the result that's causing volatility in the markets. Prices have barely started going up due to his policies: tariffs, deportations of the workforce in agriculture and construction, massive cuts to funding in medicaid and other public programs, etc. Trump's depressed approvals are mostly coming from anticipation so far; if he keeps on with these policies we'll some really low numbers.

His first term he was 45% at the lowest.

39% is pretty damn low.

The term "failed coup" exists for a reason.

Given the fact that his hands are more or less always bruised now, we can take it he is on high dose blood thinners. Which we can translate into "Tik tok motherfucker..."

And yet, if another election were to be held tomorrow, 80 million stupid Americans would still vote for this jack ass because even though Trump is a moron, that's still better than that "colored girl."

R14 That's not true. 39% at his first 100-day mark, as I said.

When these tariffs really kick in and farmers start going under somebody is going to...do something.

To the skank bitch @R16: I'll have you know I'm 6 feet 3 inches tall and weigh 224 pounds, most of which is pure muscle.

Don't believe me? Just ask my personal physician, Dr. Vinnie Boombatz

I remember reading that when he was booked in NY, the police dept clocked him in at just over 5’10” (without lifts) and 284 pounds.

Morbid

Trump & his doctor tried to claim that Trump is 2 inches taller than the 6'2 Justin Trudeau. That was false, of course.

He is a fat fuck orange pig!!!!

R22 BMI 37.5, he needs invasive gastric surgery this instant!

Nobody knows more about sinking approval ratings than me. Brain the size of a planet, me.

Higher prices are one thing, but small hikes can be harder for people to notice. When actual shortages and price gouging hit the stores in May and June, we’ll see how his MAGA troops respond. The Dollar Store isn’t going to be pretty.

The Dollar Store is currently pretty?

Then we are doing great except for the fact that Trump has 3+ years in charge and if he goes early it might get even JD worse. And the gop still holds the house, the senate,

And the Supreme Court.

We have the polls

There is further to fall. When Bush-Cheney left office in mid January 2009, the economy was in collapse mode. I remember the details because I was working in major gifts fundraising in NYC, and our biggest prospects and past donors of course were the financial titans. Those with personal net worth north of $100M. When things began to melt down in September 2008, and then worsen and worsen, many of themclosed themselves up to us instantly like the snaps of Chinese fans. Some told us bluntly; others just ghosted us (before “ghosting” was a term).

Bush’s approval rating was already at current Trump levels (40% ish) after he botched the response to Hurricane Katrina in September-October 2005.

By the time Bush finally left office in January 2009, his approval rating was down to just 27%. His reputation and that of the GOP were so poor that we took a bold leap for change. We elected a relatively unknown, Black/biracial young president named Barack Obama AND we gave him House and Senate Democratic majorities.

All of which is to say, the full story of Trump and his aftermath and the coming electoral pendulum swing is far from over. Stay with it — and stay involved in it.

And if things really turn 1934 kind of bad don’t automatically assume the dems will then win. During really tough scary terrifying times people often go farther right.

1917 in Russia would suggest they sometimes also go farther left. I believe farther right is more common through out history.

It’s not impossible we will look back on the Trump early years at least as still a part of the good old days. Just think how good and sane the Bushes look now.

Fair point R30. The pattern in US politics is profoundly and deeply entrenched, though, going back multiple generations. One party fucks up —> the pendulum swings. And this is a colossal fuckup with absolute clarity on who (Trump) is doing the fucking up.

Hilariously his attention whoring about running in 2028 is hamstringing any other Republican from running against their orange god

The illegal deportation to El Salvador hurt Trump even among conservatives.

Another poll showing T-Rump's approval under 40% has just been released by the WaPo.

No link in R34 because DL wouldn't let me post with the link!

Low Trump approval ratings in 2026 will help Dems win back Congress. Of course, Dems are amazing at losing so who knows how that will work out. Off to a great start though if Dems start primarying incumbents to make the party more progressive and youthful.

At least some of the Repubs claiming approval must be lying. Their pride/ego stands in the way of acknowledging that their vote might have been a mistake,

WaPo: Trump’s approval rating (of 39%) is lower than for any past president at the 100-day mark in their first or second terms. At a similar point in their first terms as president, 42 percent approved of Trump and 52 percent approved of President Joe Biden. Most presidents enjoy a honeymoon during their first months in office, only to see their ratings decline later in the first year. Trump may be an exception.

Disapproval and thinking your vote was a mistake are two different things. Maybe over Harris they liked Trump but are unhappy with his current performance. That’s good enough for me.

R29, I think there are indeed parallels to W's second term. W also came in claiming a mandate (with a bare majority of the vote), started on the big Republican goals of privatizing Social Security, and never recovered from the stumble; once they screwed up Katrina he was a lame duck. The MAGAs came in with a bare plurality claiming absolute power, and are being even more extreme in their goals. The MAGAs, of course, are outright dictators who don't have the scruples of the Bushies (but they're also incompetent and openly contemptuous of American norms and authority).

R31 yes I agree that is what has happened in the past. But we have yet to see the dem civil war start the battle between moderates and progressives.

And we have yet to see the Trump admin try to gut the Democratic Party nor start to find easy solutions to making sure their voting base votes less.

I am not so sure that history is a good guide during the time of Trump.

That goes without saying R37. You will never get the 80 million American idiots who voted for Trump in 2024 to admit they were wrong. They're that pig headed. That colored girl was not a serious contender to them.

Don't bet on Dems re-taking Congress. 95% of House seats are gerrymandered. Even if Trump is unpopular, people will still vote for their Republican Senate and House members, out of loyalty to the GOP, or continuing Oppositional Defiance Disorder against Dems.

Just wait until the younger Dems start trying to get rid of the older establishment Dems the younger Dems see as the problem.

Just wait until the maga billionaires really get serious about destroying the Democratic Party and use their billions to get rid of or neuter any dem that worries them.

Some of you sound like you actually want the worst case scenario to happen. Likely, what comes will be nothing like we expect and yet in line with what we have seen historically.

It might be maddening, but it’s really ok not to know what is coming next.

The craziest part is people think Kamala’s rating would have been any better.

I’d like to see him sink into about 30 feet of water.

R45 “ likely” :-)

I bet you also thought it likely Trump would go to jail, Biden would win, then Harris would win? At least 2 out of 3?

Assuming that history always repeats itself is nuts. My proof? We have Donald Trump the pussie grabber as President not just once but twice and who knows if he will go for 3.

And potential arrests and courts and possibly prison is now a part of American political life. We are making history not repeating it.

R43 Democrats lost their core base because they listen to their donors more than the people.

Cause Dem politicians don’t align with Democratic views.

R43 Yet even in the Dump “sweep” of 2024, Dems picked up house seats.

Well yeah R42, especially since it was 77.3M.

Of course, Democrats are to blame for Dump and the fascist GQP.

They didn’t lose their core, r49. Dump barely won. Repukes barely won the House. Everything I’m hearing is an echo from 2016. It’s all cyclical, sadly.

[quote]Off to a great start though if Dems start primarying incumbents to make the party more progressive and youthful.

When has this happened before, other than AOC and we KNOW how that turned out. She actually voted with the GOP and against her caucus numerous times (I believe more than ANY other Democrat) under Biden, because...reasons.

If you really think that will happen, ir even work if it does, you're whistling Dixie.

[quote]Democrats lost their core base because they listen to their donors more than the people.

Pure leftist, defeatist insanity.

Which Biden or Obama legislation was not directly tied to the needs of the electorate and on Dem's wish list? I'll wait.

The Democratic electorate is fussy, vindictive, and eager to tell everyone why they won't be voting. The whites are certain there is too much attention to minorities (while they benefit the most, see SNAP) and the loudmouth leftists, who've never written a bill that became a law are stoking the fires with their anti-Semitism masked as "peace", and pushing the lunacy of the Gender Identity Movement and other bizarre indicators of "progressivism". Democratic voters are the ones who can't stop running from the core kitchen table issues championed by the Biden years for their magical wish list of nonsense.

He’s going to destroy the Republican Party.

Good riddance.

[quote]The craziest part is people think Kamala’s rating would have been any better.

Of course it would have been better. She would have inherited a strong economy and she wouldn't have done anything to change that, unlike Trump who is proactively ruining a strong economy to the point that people are now anxious about the future.

Only he could make the Oval Office look like a whorehouse. He also placed this "portrait" between two official former First Ladies portraits in the WH, available for public view. When parody becomes real life.

Kamala Harris’ presidential rating would likely be around 50%. She’d have retained the economy experts, made no wack moves geopolitically, and there’d be no fact-based cause for public outrage. The entire right wing media would find some anyway, and they would foment it 24/7 with their usual malevolent (and unfortunately effective) skill set; and plenty of the cranky Independents would go along. But we’d be in a completely different and far more functional and stable place. Such a better place. There’s no comparison.

ps one more “what if” angle — a Harris victory would have been narrow as hell, and Trump was ready to call for absolute VIOLENCE if she had won. You saw what they did when a white man beat Trump by 8 million. It would have been a societal nightmare if a Black woman had beat him by extremely close margins. We would still be dealing with it and reeling from it.

So true, Torta.

In the unlikely event the Trump regime allowed the Democrats to take a majority in the House or Senate, how will they have any influence on an administration that won't even follow the rulings of its own heavily stacked Supreme Court?

Scary thought r62. Blood will be spilled.

America elected him AGAIN and his overall approval rating is in the toilet. Something doesn't add up here. If you all KNEW he's an incompetent jackass why did you all elect him again?

R64, I think you're referring to different "yous" in different parts of your sentence.

He was elected because the US (like every other developed country) had a period of high inflation after the pandemic that voters blamed on Joe Biden, and they remembered that the US economy was reasonably good during Trump's first term and they thought he would bring that back.

That's it. That's the only reason (except maybe for stopping immigration). Ordinary voters didn't expect or want any of this that he's doing now; they expected him to focus on reducing inflation (the one thing he's completely ignoring now). The only people who knew what was coming were the people who follow the news closely and knew he was planning to do the crazy things in the Project 2025 agenda.

The data support R66.

Polls? Do you think Joe Stalin gave a shit about polls? It’s all about the power. And the brass balls and don’t give a shit attitude to use that power and to use it strongly and viciously. Knock the opposition out of the game forever.

Trump is no doubt still amazed that anyone would be dumb enough not to have put him in prison when they had the chance. Dumb and weak would be Dons verdict.

R66, I spent some time in November digging through polling to try to understand it, and your explanation is a large part of it. Economically Trump’s first term was a home run for three years, until Covid happened. Many voters wanted to go back to 2018.

The other large parts were (2) a general electoral antipathy toward Biden and the status quo, with Harris offering us a continuation of the status quo; and 3) yes, some misogyny and some racism.

Also keep in mind that most of the electorate are totally tuned out (and probably drugged up on antidepressants and who knows what else, they can't recall what they did yesterday much less Dump's first term). That is also how he got elected again.

Is the misogyny you mention the people that don’t see men with a penis as real women ever? Or the anti men in women’s sports folks?

Besides the trans which was an election vote issue you had crime and the border and you had a senile democratic nominee . All issues Trump owned.

R69

Laurence O'Donnell keeps repeating, "All he would have had to do was [bold]nothing![/bold] He could have gone golfing every day, watched TV, and kept his hands off the government, and everything would have been [bold]fine![/bold]"

True -- and depressing AF.

R71, can you please repeat yourself? In English this time.

Casino workers realizing that elections have consequences. They voted for Trump again, even though tourism was up under Biden. They thought he would stop taxing their tips, but instead they lost their jobs.

I've never heard of Vegas canceling the buffets before. When they cancel the buffets, you know that business is real bad.

R74 A lot of the buffets closed during the pandemic as well (another Trump failure). Nevada is DEPENDENT on those tourists and the cash they spend here. We had a budget shortfall after covid. No doubt my property and gas taxes will go up once tRump's recession comes.

But as for the MGM closures/layoffs, I also think there's something else going on there-bad debts, mismanagement?

Doesn’t matter how low it is. The MSM will bothsides him to the top.

Those Vegas MGM mass layoffs and cutbacks, it does seem major. Probably the seniormost execs realizing the math is fucked. They did a lot of risky and tight financial acrobatics to dig out from the Covid situation, which was a hard collapse followed by a slumpy year Fall ‘20 to Summer ‘21 until the world fully opened again. They probably absolutely needed 5+ solid years after that. But instead, just 4 years later Trump has fucked it all up and guest bookings are way down. With no clear sense at all of how long guest bookings will stay down.

I'm waiting for his approval rating to flatline.

Trump voters just double down when he screws them over. They’d rather keep claiming to support him than admit they were wrong. Don’t ever make the mistake of assuming they’ll come to their senses.

They won’t.

If they had any sense they’d have voted for Harris. But they are morons.

R79 the ones I know are not a single bloc that thinks alike. The diehards are gonna die hard, as you say. But he won because a lot of the fair-weather, weak-support voters chose him. Their identity isn’t caught up in it, they don’t believe in him like the diehards do. And the weather is turning foul.

It needs to sink into the fucking TEENS.

They can’t be trusted no matter what they say though, R80. They are ignorant, easily manipulated, and in order to save face they will not turn to Democrats. They will blame Dems because they swallowed Trump’s bullshit. They will blame the Dems for running bad campaigns or whatever…you can count on them not taking any responsibility and being too defensive to vote for a Dem in 2028. I’m just being realistic.

Tampons in the boys bathrooms , trannies flashing their store bought tits on the White House lawn after meeting with Joe, and sex change surgery for federal prisoners showed such good democratic ideas and support for the gay and trans communities

It’s amazing all those American Nazis were so opposed to basic American rights..

R83, that isn’t why Dems lost and you know it. Just like, when Dems won it wasn’t because of George Floyd. Just give it up, you’re as wrongheaded as anyone here. It’s about money, money, and money.

R60 - Republicans would be crying about rigged elections and interference, and someone would have drawn up articles of impeachment against Kamala already. Any serious Republicans have been taken down by the MAGA morons in Congress, and they seem complacent being cucks.

R84 the dems lost for a whole lot of reasons. Not one not two but lots.

And while the border, crime, economy were all issues so was the trans and federal paid for trans surgery for prisoners, and grown men who wanted to compete against women in sports and young kids trying to change their gender, and the woke DEI issue. America became sick of these.

Dems who deny these were an issue are a major problem as far as 2026 and 2028 and…….

No r86. The economy was the major reason the Dems lost. Second is that people did not come out and vote for the black woman. Everything else is just meaningless noise.

yeah, and? The moderate Republicans still standing are terrified of maga-trump. Don't expect them to lift a finger in opposition.

This trash needs to go. Look at what he's done to the oval office. Fake gold shit everywhere. He's got the taste of a Jersey mob wife or a Persian.

[quote]Why should he care? It's the Congressional Republicans that need to worry; he couldn't care less.

This right here R2. I keep asking myself this every time new poll numbers are released. WHY DOES HE CARE ? He's coasting down the highway for the next 45 months. Then he's out - he's not going to be campaigning for another term. So why does he care ?

This is probably more detrimental to those GOP Congressmen/ women who are up for re-election next year, if they don't move away from him now.

I don't think Trump thinks in terms of leaving office. The "third term" he and his people keep floating isn't a joke. If he's unconcerned about his low poll numbers, it's because he has the next three and half years to raise them—or put a dictatorship in place so that they won't matter. He also probably expects to suppress the Democratic vote in the midterms. And maybe he's also just living in a bubble and in denial about the polls.

As commentators on the left (e.g. Paul Krugman today) keep pointing out, though, dictators do need popular support—Hitler and Orbán, to take two examples, reconciled majorities to their rule because they delivered employment, infrastructure, etc. Trump's whole program is calculated to impoverish the majority to the benefit of the billionaires, so he's got a very different calculus to deal with. See R6.

R87 bless you , another kind soul trans supporter, explaining why they had absolutely nothing to do at all in any way with Harris losing.

Keep up the good work

R92, I'm not R87, but can you give any data to support your idea that trans rights issues played a significant part in the election results? They haven't been a significant factor in places like KY and VA; they weren't prominent in the Democrats' platform; the Republicans may have leveraged them to motivate their base, but they don't seem to have influenced the swing vote anywhere near as much as economic factors (real or imagined).

Just because the border, crime, economy moved voters and was important that does not mean that Harris previously calling for trans surgery for federal prisoners was not an issue. Or waltz defending tampons in the boys bathroom.

The GOP trans ads pear to have been some of the most effective.

Bill Clinton told the Harris campaign they were losing the election over these trans woke issues but he claims they ignored him.

JHC the one good positive thing from having your ass kicked in life is that you can then see why you got your ass kicked and adjust.

Include major liberal progressive trans support in future elections for the Dems and see how that works out.

You're not giving any data that support for trans rights was a significant factor outside of Trump's base, who were going to vote for him anyway because they're mindlessly convinced that "only he can fix it."

So what? He'll still be around for three and a half more years.

R93, thanks, thats the point I was making but poor r92 is convinced that trans is the reason Kamala lost. Not based on any data but his own wrongheaded analysis.

I heard the same old tired stuff in 2016, and the Dems came roaring back. Repukes have always based their campaigns on making the left seem radical, even though their policies aren’t. They will come back again in 2026 and 2028 because that’s the nature of our electorate.

[Quote] because the Nazis had two things he wouldn't: a genuinely booming economy

What? The Nazis took over in the depths of the depression. That was one of the reasons they were able to sway many people.

There is no ONE fucking reason she lost. There are lots of reasons. And in a very close election that makes all those reasons very important.

A number of DL posters have posted data showing that the GOP trans ads were very effective. I did not need that data to convince me.. I saw the ads. And I don’t watch fox more espn and cnn if you want to know where those ads aired.

Somebody in all these threads has a truly full blown case of Trans Derangement Syndrome.

You can imagine them stumbling over to their desk laptop every morning upon waking, itching to post some more transgender-blaming wherever they can. No matter how tangential.

The economic fallout is incoming. We will see Trump’s approval rating fall at least 5 more points. The consolation prize for struggling to obtain all kinds of consumer and prescription things we need.

R100 not me. I do not care much about the trans issue one way or another. What I do care about is winning elections.

[quote]Don’t ever make the mistake of assuming they’ll come to their senses.

[quote]They won’t.

Which is why these people must be crushed, humiliated and economically destroyed. Yeah, I know it will affect nearly everyone, but many Trumpers are set to feel the economic ruin first. Let's get to it.

“ Let’s get to it”

When things turn really bad 1934 kind of bad , and standing in line at a soup kitchen is a blessing , federal or national guard troops will already have been deployed, martial law in some cites by then and elections might need extra security to keep bad people away.

And the Enemy Within is being hunted day and night by troops and loyal armed citizens..

A total collapse might not be the unmitigated joy for progressives some on DL think it will be.

[quote]Just because the border, crime, economy moved voters and was important that does not mean that Harris previously calling for trans surgery for federal prisoners was not an issue. Or waltz defending tampons in the boys bathroom.

In how many boy's bathrooms were they placed and how many times did Walz (or waltz) defend placing them there?

Just from having a MAGA mom, I'll say this. She told me (an out gay man) before the election that all gay men wanted to "cut off their dicks." She also said that if women want an abortion then they could move to a state where it's legal. And she's an anti-vaxxer who's had covid twice (to my zero). And she's an attorney.

R104 a great question. The fact is no one cared during the election and no one will care in the future.

For the GOP it was just a fucking gift they made great use of. They took off and ran with it.

R8 - that's one of the more stunning results of recent polls. He's lost between 10-15 pts among Republicans. That's a very big deal. I've heard pollsters say his floor is around 33% approval rating - meaning only true MAGA will continue to back him and it's looking increasingly like a very likely scenario. That's about the same approval Hoover had.

He's not going to bounce back from this. Even if he does a complete 180 on tariffs, the damage has been done. We'll soon start seeing economic impact and supply chain disruptions. And we've lost the confidence/good will of the world. No one if going to trust him not to change course again.

I'm quite optimistic that we'll bury him. If he stays in the 30s, Repubs in Congress will start to turn on him. Already starting now. He's not loved - especially by GOP senators. And many pissed about the 3rd term nonsense because it keeps their own dreams of running on the sidelines.

He'll be neutered. And I hope like hell Vance's career is absolutely left in ashes.

I wonder what’s more dangerous a happy Trump with things going well and lots of approvals or an under fire depressed angry Trump that sees Dems stealing his support.

Alex I will take what would Hitler or Stalin do for $200

Interesting piece from Kos over on DailyKos this morning. Apparently youngest voters age 18-21 went for Trump much more than 22-29 year olds. Theory is, these were the pent up Covid Teens who felt robbed of a part of their lives.

This group is turning away from Trump the most dramatically of all.

They were incels who listen to angry young man podcasts, r109. That's who he catered to in the last few months (once Kamala was the nominee).

I reckon the subset who are actual podcast incels are probably staying with him R110. But some significant and broader chunk of the young voters who voted for him, are now voicing disapproval.

Does anyone think the trans issue had any influence on these young voters? Somehow I think not.

[quote]Which is why these people must be crushed, humiliated and economically destroyed.

I'm on it! Oh wait ....

There are several DL self proclaimed "experts" who keep insisting Kamala lost the election because she wrote a letter to Dylan Mulvaney. Make of that what you will.

These are the same "experts" who claim men want to dress up like wpmen so they can invade womens prisons, bathrooms and locker rooms so they can show women their cocks.

Did someone really say Harris would not be any different. You mean to say she would have dismantled NATO, attacked Canada for no reason (she lived their for a couple of years), started a tariff war, deported people with no proof, destroyed the civil service, etc. Yeah.

R114, yeah, the anti-trans thread hijackers here are best ignored.

Yes the anti trans ads were effective. But there is abundant polling data from Aug thru Oct 2024 on the question of what are your main considerations and issues as you compare the two candidates. Trans stuff wasn’t anywhere remotely near the top.

“Yes the anti trans ads were effective”

R6 As far as the Hitler comparison I think Nazism it’s one of those things that might not happen again just like chattel slavery. It’s like people harbored so much scientific racism it allow those tragedies to happen once the seeds of dysfunctional are planted. I can’t see it happening again in a modern western nation, no matter how bigoted or populist the population becomes.

Not the Onion...

R118 all it would take are the right conditions. And those conditions would be based on fear not hate. Then fear would move to hate and hate to violence.

If the aids crisis was unfolding right now with this admin and country I could easily see fear hate followed by camps and roving death squads. I could see the same thing if another infectious driven crisis arrives next month.

Jews were not hated just because they were Jewish and that Christ killing thing it was the fact that most Germans blamed their poor economic conditions on those money people ( the enemy within) and the money people sucking the life blood out of a country were seen most often as being Jewish.

Womp fucking womp, ya bloated orange slob!

And back we go to the whole tampon in boy's bathroom emergency! For those who don't know, girl's leagues will often use the boy's locker room when they have too many teams present or visiting another school. Of course, this simple explanation is missed. God, I hate stupid Americans

Worth repeating (for the 10,000th time): Where's a sharp shooter when you need them? And I'm talking about someone who can aim this time.

R122

Is that the new BS the far left has come with. What took them so long. 😂 I have never heard of such a thing.

R124 the BS is the fact that the Dumpers give a shit about this very minor and stupid thing. It doesn’t affect jack shit re their quality of life.

r124, this is old news. Schools have been doing this since the 1970s, when I was in school. You're just fucking stupid

Yeah, our high school had a little tampon dispenser on a wall in the boys' room because of girls' sports teams visiting etc. You wouldn't even notice it or know what it was (at least I didn't until somebody told me.) This was a couple decades ago.

But our "all transbashing all the time" little claque in here loves to pounce on these things.

You Americans had it good under Biden! "Men in women's sports/changing rooms/gender-affirming care for minors" as hot-button issues are a sign that times are pretty damn good for most people.

Most Trump supporters still do not know what is going on with Trump, they only watch Fox. They will have to be hit hard financially and even then Fox will spin it as a problem the Dems caused and the Trumpers will believe it. They really are foolish people.

So the tampons in the boys bathrooms was a sports issue and had something to do with girls sports teams in the boys bathrooms and nothing to do with the trans?

Maybe the dems and Walz should have explained that? It was a very close election and every vote was important.

R129 MAGAts will freak out when the Walmart shelves are empty and prices double. On some level, some will abandon him.

[quote] when the Walmart shelves are empty and prices double

and Trump is still droning on about the coming golden age of prosperity.

It should never have been an issue in the first place, r130. You know who made it an issue? Repukes. That’s what they do. They take some lie (remember eating the cats and dogs?) and turn it into an issue. If it weren’t tampons, it would have been something else. Dems are left playing whackamole. Dems need a general cohesive message to combat these lies. The electorate also needs to be smarter (don’t hold your breath).

“That’s what they do” :-)

So it was the republicans that made the trans an election issue then hung that issue around Harris Walk like a really really heavy bolder? That’s quite a claim.

Surprising that being given a great gift the gop would use it.

And Harris did say that federal prisoners did deserve sex change surgery while in prison. So there is that as well.

"So it was the republicans that made the trans an election issue then hung that issue around Harris Walk like a really really heavy bolder? That’s quite a claim."

LOL, that's not "quite a claim"... it's simply what happened. Harris 2024 and related PACs ran absolutely zero ads ever on trans issues. Trump 2024 and related PACs attacked Harris relentlessly with anti-trans campaign ads.

But go on, continue to tell us it's 'quite a claim" that the Trump side alone pounced on this and used it as an election year wedge issue. Which they 100% did.

R130 dey eatin duh dawg end catsss

R134, yes. It was Repukes that made trans an issue.

[quote] then hung that issue around Harris Walk like a really really heavy bolder?

I'm still not seeing any data that the trans rights issue moved voters away from the Dems, apart from the MAGA base, who were already going to vote for Trump. Other issues were far more significant for Trump's narrow plurality.

How well would Putin do in polls in his own country… if people there could freely vote in polls…

R135 I did not think anyone on DL would think I was being serious. Good lord. Yes I actually understand that while the Dems opened the door in the trans issue by calling for federal prisoners to receive sex change surgery etc the gop took that great gift and used it effectively during the campaign.

It would have been political malpractice for the GOP not to use the trans issue as they did. They guessed right. The dems did not.

Eeen sprinfeel, dey eatin duh dawgs and catssss. Dey eatin duh petssssssss.

Just wait he will sink far lower than this.

Let's hope he sinks into a peat moss bog R142.

There will be martial law and armed bands of maga roaming weho if the polls get bad enough.

Enjoy today

This is the good old days