When and why did Americans stop using "have" without a helper verb?

Mid-Atlantic English

I never hear that. Are you sure you're not a delusional moron?

What I do hear is the replacement of the preposition FOR, ABOUT or AT with AROUND. Are you sure you haven't any ideas around that, OP?

[quote] When and why did Americans stop using "have" without a helper verb?

I haven’t the slightest.

My young cousins in Italy were practicing their elementary school English with me. They kept saying, "Have you got a pen?" "Have you got an apple?" "Have you got a at (hat)"

I tried to explain that in American English we wouldn't say that. We would say, "do you have a ___" but I decided not to push the issue since they were being tested on English English.

Maybe it happened around the same time that we stopped using periods in abbreviations like U.S.

People also leave out "to be" when warranted.

"This nasty jockstrap needs washed."

Pittsburghers especially, r6.

Articles are disappearing. It’s been a long time since I’ve heard an actor say the set. Lately they all seem to head to set and then to their room (dropping the word dressing).

It hath made me mad.

or angry

r4 I think both of those are acceptable common American English usage. What British English would say is "Have you a pen?" or "Have you an apple?"

R11 No British person would speak like that.

We'd say 'Do you have a pen' or 'Do you have an apple?'

You need to be in the Dorothy Killgallen thread.

[quote]I decided not to push the issue

You CANNOT be a gay male.

OPs post was a little confusing. But there is no reason why certain words or phrases leave a dialect/lexicon. It just does.

I remember being in stores or shops with my dad, and he'd say things like, "Have you change for a twenty?" "Have you a pen?" He was born in 1928. I was born in 1958. It sounded a little different to my ears, a little formal. He was a blue-collar worker with a high school education. In my generation, we would have said, "Have you got change for a twenty?" or "Do you have change...?", etc. So that's one generation.

R8 It's like the way the word prom is used.

My generation went to "the prom." Now kids go to "prom."

For some reason.

R17, that always bothered me — I thought that was a regional thing. I’m from the East Coast and even back in the 1980s I noticed prom without the article in a lot of movies back then.

R13, your post made my day!

r17 "For some reason."

Let us use complete sentences, please.

Have you a pen? - Rare, sounds old-fashioned or very British. Archaic British English construction.

Have you got a pen? - Very common in the UK, Ireland, Australia; slightly less formal. Conversational British and Commonwealth English.

Do you have a pen? - Extremely common in American English; now dominant globally. Standard conversational and formal English.

In older British English, "have" was a full verb that could form questions without "do-support." (Example: "Have you any money?" or "Have you brothers or sisters?")

"Do-support" (adding "do" to form questions and negatives) became widespread from the 16th century onward, but "have," "be," and modal verbs remained exceptions longer.

Over centuries, British conversational English shifted toward favoring "Have you got" and "Do you have" constructions.

By the 19th and 20th centuries, "Have you a..." began sounding formal, old-fashioned, or upper-class.

Where "Have you a..." Survives Today:

Very formal British writing (legal texts, formal letters)

Older speakers in the UK and Ireland (educated or conservative speech communities)

Poetry and stylized writing (for rhythm and conciseness)

Fossilized expressions

"Have you any idea?"

"Have you no shame?"

"Have you no decency?"

DL meme expressions:

"I have never in all my life!"

Well I ,for one, have sufficient several times a day as a matter of principle and, furthermore, have no plans to stop.

Yet Americans would freely ask "Have you any idea?"

American here. I would probably ask “have you got” before I’d say “do you have,” especially in an informal situation.

Well then you are lost!

[quote]Articles are disappearing. It’s been a long time since I’ve heard an actor say the set. Lately they all seem to head to set

Yet in the UK, it's acceptable to say 'The King is in Hospital' rather than 'the hospital' or 'the students at University' rather than 'the university'.

As for the OP, I'm just happy when I hear or read people still using the word 'have' instead of using the word 'of'. I'm so tired of reading social media posts with "I should of gone..."

He went to school.

I just watched the final episode of "Vera" (contemporary British detective drama set in Northumberland) and one of the characters asked, "Have you a car?", so I don't know what r12 is talking about.

I got you, babe.