Non-fatal and non-debilitating bodily changes as you age that no one really ever told you about

That eyebrow hair that thinks it's a public hair.

^ pubic

Sore joints after moderate exercise.

I'm 64 and have started noticing an occasional eyebrow growing longer as well as a few grey ones. Grey hair really varies depending were it is on the body. I'm not particularly hairy except for heavy beard. What chest hair I have is grey/white. No grey in pubic or axillary area at all. Hair on head is about 50% grey or close to it. Facial hair is splotches of grey, but I keep clean shaven.

Joint pain and muscle aches that never seem to fully go away.

food sticks to the back of the tongue instead of going down. It feels like the passage there has an obstruction that never existed before.

No longer wake up with an erection most of the time. Well, maybe a semi sometimes.

R6 It's probably nothing, but I would still mention that symptom to your doctor or dentist just to rule out any problem.

I have been a big shooter with lots of volume my whole life . I could hit my face and beyond. But just this past year, my cum only shots couple of inches. It pisses me off. My long distance gooey globs were a source of pride.

R7 Mid-60s and no issues (surprisingly) with that yet. The only time I had any ED issues at all was when I was very briefly on Paxil (an SSRI antidepressant) 20+ years ago. I could still get it up, but it was nearly impossible to orgasm. I would basically give up. I do notice less ejaculate now days. I had my testosterone checked and it is at the high end of normal. My doctor asked if I was juicing (I'm not).

R9 You wrote your reply at the same time that I did. I don't like the decrease in seminal volume and force either. I have read that Kegel exercises can help. I plan to give it a try.

I've been dealing with stray eyebrow hairs growing long and getting in my vision for about the past year. It's so annoying. I rip them out with tweezers. I'm 42.

How all your body fat migrates to your lower abdomen.

R12 I trim them with scissors when possible because if I ripped out every long hair, I'd have no eyebrows left. But I don't want to look like late-life Larry Hagman, either.

I told you not to eat and drink that stuff. Now look at me!

Sarcopenia. And the Ozempic I take isn’t helping either…

No tolerance for booze or fried food.

Millennial, so not as old as some here, but i'd say having to get the weird pains, feelings, and changes checked out. Most will turn out to be nothing, but one can't take that chance. Also, no one really talks about the middle years much. I had this naive view when younger that people just got old one day. No, the stiffness etc comes on you over time and working out isn't as easy as it was when I was 20.

Harder time digesting dairy.

Female here - in perimenopause. Goat-like chin and neck hairs that seemingly pop out of nowhere are are an inch long. If I ever end up in the hospital unconscious, someone is gonna need to bring in my Norelco trimmer.

Female here, as well. I'd expected many of the symptoms of menopause, but the one that threw me for a loop was the acute anxiety.

My understanding about it: When estrogen and progesterone decrease, their component molecules produce cortisol and adrenaline, the stress hormones which leads to increases in anxiety, and some panic symptoms. For me, the anxiety would come out of the blue -- I can be unstressed, nothing really going on and boom, seemingly from nowhere. My breathing gets shallower, my heart rate changes. Sometimes, even my hands even shake from it.

All those molecules that used to go into estrogen and progesterone production, form androgens -- male hormones. The reason for stray chin hairs and thinning head hair.

r12 I'm around your age and the eyebrow hairs growing long has taken me by surprise. I had no idea that was a thing. I have a pair of tweezers in the bathroom to pull out the hairs out when they get noticeably longer.

earrings that come out with Caftans!

I was going to say shingles, but you know all about that.

Being startled by chunks of earwax dropping out of the canal…thinking it’s an insect at first. Freaks me out every time.

dry, itchy skin

Teeth shifting around

Leg hair falling out.

Ridges on finger nails

Thinning eyebrows. I purchased some batana oil; they say that it can thicken facial hair if applied no less than three times a week.

Bunions. WTH!?

CONSTIPATION

disappearing eyebrows, scaly shanks, zero ejaculate (drug side-effect and age)

Mentally I'm still in pretty good shape (creeping up on 77). I'm still in love with my husband. We no longer fuck (he had prostate cancer), but we cuddle and that's almost as good as what we had before.

My tolerance for alcohol disappeared practically the day I turned forty. I could drink my ass off in my twenties and thirties and the next morning I'd be a little hungover for a couple of hours but then I'd be fine. After forty, if I had just two drinks at night the next day I was tired as hell. Now that I'm creeping up on fifty I just don't drink at all anymore.

My first job after college was working for a doctor. I think I'd seen or heard about most of the possibilities before I was 30.

Since then, in no particular order, I've dealt with a myocardial infarction, ulcerative colitis, type II diabetes, heart failure, CKD, mast cell release syndrome, BPH, cataracts, kidney stones, and a bad temper.

Nothing fatal or at least, not yet. Non-debilitating? There's been a pill or a shot or a procedure for everything so far. Organizing the appointments and getting and taking the meds is a look more work than the illnesses, thankfully.

Trim, don't pluck eyebrow hairs. . Minoxidil works on eyebrow regrowth except at outside ends.

Coffee! I've been someone who could drink MAXIMUM two cups a day or else I'd break in a jittery sweat. I'm 60 now and I could drink gallons of the stuff and then go to sleep.

Nobody warned me about benign positional vertigo!

R38 yep. I've got that too

Chipped teeth

The flatulence! In my younger years I would have been horribly embarrassed to fart in public. Now it happens all the time and I enjoy the reactions around me.

Somebody mentioned ridges on fingernails. I have them coming in vertically and horizontally. Fingernails have thickened. I expected it in the toes but not fingers

Everything hurting when I wake up.

Having to take a shit at unexpected times.

r29 ridges in fingernails can also point to a nutritional/vitamin deficiency.

Illnesses knocking you over so much fucking harder than they used to.

Flu A almost sent me to the ER in early ‘23. Now I have Epstein Barr Virus (mono) and the fatigue is unending. Been increasingly wiped out since late March and it took weeks to understand I needed medical guidance. Like anyone would, thought it was just life stress / world-induced stress and exhaustion at first.

Unless you exist on chicken broth or you're a hillbilly eating possum and tree bark, it's doubtful you have a vitamin deficiency.

r47 that's absolutely not true. I have been deficient in Iron, B12 and Vit D in the past (on separate occasions, even). People can easily become deficient in folate and Vit C as well (although sometimes that happens as a result of alcoholism). Modern-day scurvy (Vit C deficiency) still happens, especially with fanatics who refuse to eat any "sugar" (like fruit).

Nutritional Deficiencies and Nail Ridges:

Iron Deficiency:

Iron deficiency anemia can lead to various nail changes, including longitudinal ridges, says Healthline.

Vitamin B12 Deficiency:

This deficiency can cause hyperpigmentation of nails, including longitudinal and reticulate darkened streaks, according to the National Institutes of Health (NIH).

Other Deficiencies:

Deficiencies in folate, zinc, and certain other vitamins (A, C, D) can also affect nail health and potentially contribute to the appearance of ridges, says Healthline.

I always saw old men at the gym drying their balls and feet with a hair dryer forever and now I understand why. Jock itch/ athletes foot is constant if you don’t stay on top of staying dry.

After a lifetime of running and jogging, my knees are beginning to give out. It's difficult walking up and down steps.

Skin tags.

I have been diagnosed with Vitamin D and B-12 deficiencies. The B-12 is probably more about the way my body works than my diet. I take supplements.

Hairs growing out of the inside of my ear I pluck them before I get my haircut or if they get too long.

R53, it's something I do when reading DL.

Inability to digest sugary foods.

r34 - same here.

Plucking ear hairs is my thing too. I do it with my fingernails. I rub the inside of my ear and if I hear that crinkle crinkle of a hair, I can’t rest until it’s pulled out by the root. I do it all the time so nothing gets me crazier than those times, just reaching around in darkness I come across a long hair that’s been growing from deep inside. I literally stare at it on a piece of paper asking, “how the fuck did I miss you for doling?” I feel like I’ve been lied to.

My tolerance for alcohol is basically gone at 46. I had two glasses of wine on Easter and slept like crap.... Not worth it. Fat all accumulating in the middle. Unable to read things up close. The need to go to bed by 10.

Everything r58 said, I'm also in my forties. Fat accumulation in the gut is the worst! I used to be able to eat like a pig and my metabolism took care of it. Now I have to watch everything I eat and work out like a MF to maintain a 32" waist. If I didn't watch my diet and exercise I would look like I was carrying twins. No more drinking, even a little alcohol makes me feel like shit the next day. "Staying out late" means 11:00, 11:30 at the latest.

Tweezers work well to pluck out ear hair. No need to use your fingernails.

Those gray/white eyebrow hairs are like fishing line.

I can't squat any more without difficulty rising so I no longer do it.

I just found a picture of me from 15 years ago (30 to 55 now). My, have I aged. It bothers me. I'm not overweight. But the the plump ass that I used to have seems to be tucked to my tummy now. My legs are balding. Hair moved from the top of my head to the ears... all that. I wasn't stunningly handsome when I was younger, but I knew I could get some when I wanted. Realizing that I cannot just pick a guy anymore bothers me. And I don't even want to hook up. I am happy with my husband. But the fact that my look is irretrievably gone feels depressing on bad days.

30 to 55 is 25 years, I'm afraid.

I developed neuropathy in both feet due to a b12 deficiency. They discovered it when I talked to them about a feeling of clumsiness.

Yeah I'm really falling apart and it happened too soon, I'm only in my late 50s. Constant pulsing tinnitus / partial deafness / vertigo episodes from Meniere's Disease. The tinnitus hell causes insomnia which causes chronic fatigue. This makes it hard for me to summon the willpower even to go to the gym, much less exert myself when I'm there. So I'm increasingly unfit and slumpy. Can't digest dairy, kind of can't digest gluten, alcohol totally sidelines me, etc. Sun exposure tires me. Close-range eyesight went bust. There's more but I'll assume you've had sufficient.

This was always part of the deal, being born and having a human life... but, truly, it sucks. I can't believe I'm the same person who in the '90s, '00s and even the early '10s used to be able to dance for hours, host all-nighter parties, eat pretty much everything, get plenty of sex and I was good at it... all the things. I feel like a ghost now, in relationship to those memories.

I took semaglutide and lost 25 pounds.

"Signs" of aging that went away: lower back pain, huffing and puffing up a flight of stairs, poor sleep.

Age is going to get us all if death doesn't get us first.

But getting the weight off will roll back the years.

I've lost 31 lbs on semaglutide and 39 lbs overall since January; just 9 more to go before I'm in the "normal" weight/BMI zone.

Despite that, my lower back pain is still there. And I have random foot pain when I walk or hike that I didn't have just 2 1/2 years ago.

I'm 56.

R48 = Vitamin Shoppe

Fatty liver and I only have a couple of drinks a week

My eyebrows, nose hair, armpit hair, and pubes are growing like a wild bush.

Meanwhile, the hair on my scalp is starting to think.

Increasingly long delay for starting micturation. (look it up)

"Meanwhile, the hair on my scalp is starting to think."

At least something on your head is starting to think.

R7, what is your intake of sugar?

Fatty liver disease is caused by 2 things; alcohol (alcoholic fatty liver), and excess sugar (non-alcoholic fatty liver). I'm asking about your sugar intake because couple of alcoholic drinks per week should not be the cause of your fatty liver.

Sorry, my post at R74 is meant for R70.

The stress of constant attention by young guys who somehow have gotten into granddaddy porn and want to "play." They see me in the park or at the store and before I have time to use the bathroom the doorbell's ringing.

I'm thinking of having a sign made for the door that says, "By Invitation Only."

R74 I don’t eat much sugar at all because I low carb, I started taking milk thistle supplements

In the morning...

I get up to take the first piss of the day. Go back to bed. Ten minutes later I need to piss again.

Upper arm skin laxity the area right over the triceps. I've been putting retin A on my arms at night just to see if it helps

Chronically dry eyes, as well as failing eyesight, especially in things close up.

My friend was shocked when we in a parking garage recently and I was able to read his licence plate numbers at a distance of 70 feet away, but dammed if I can read anything if it's one foot away.

This thread should be turned into a book for everyone approaching 50 and beyond.

I have no idea what switch got turned on that said nose hair shall grow like jungle weed and it's thick, coarse and gray. Not to mention the stray hair that grows outside of my nose and on my lobe and ear rim. WTF?

Also, I started getting crazy UTIs all the time and couldn't figure out why. Turns out after a CT Scan, an ultrasound, and the thing where they stick the camera up your dick, my prostate had grown and was wreaking havoc on my bladder causing some urine to stay in my bladder and sit like a swamp, causing infections and eventually causing some minor kidney damage. Get your prostates checked, people.

Graying hair.

Having enough hair.

Invisible nose hairs that constantly tickle.

Can't each coleslaw/raw cabbage anymore. Red wine hates me after all these years too.

I didn't mean R74, I meant R83, and what she said about R45 - sorry, R59 - when he/they went off on R160 in the future.

Callouses on my feet.

Can't drink caffeine later than 3 if I want to go to sleep around 10.

The inability to fall asleep and sleep well.

Tonsil stones

Thick rigid scaly skin on my heels that cannot be filed down (it strangely goes straight to raw skin). I found that high percentage salicylic acid salve and a silicone heel sock overnight helped make it go away after a year. Still have to wear the damn sock to stave it off.

Lights are beginning to look like stars at night (yeah getting cataracts).

Intolerance to sirens, loud noises. I have to wear ear plugs to exercise class now.

Yes, my ophthalmologist told me everyone gets cataracts, if they live long enough. The progression is just earlier for some people.

R81 A friend of mine had bladder stones for exactly the same reason. He had to have a TURP (transurethral resection of the prostate). They whittle away at the prostate using an instrument going up through the urethra. After that, most people will have retrograde ejaculation (ejaculation goes into the bladder and comes out when you pee).

I've been on finasteride for 30+ years to prevent hair loss so my prostate has remained small, fortunately.

R67 I have lost the same amount in under 2 months, and have a flat stomach for the first time in a decade.

I had the early stages of a hernia which has gone away, IBS is no more, and GERD is cleared up. I was a side sleeper whose belly was pressing upwards into my esophagus.

I eat a lot of rabbit food now, but Semaglutide changed my taste buds, and I find a container full of carrot and celery sticks delicious.

Use 40 percent urea cream on your scaly heels and file it gently with an electric roller.

A double crease on the lower butt cheeks. No amount of squats, lunges or hip thrusts helps.

Crepey skin and veiny hands and feet.

I am sure you noticed crepey skin and veiny hands and feet among older people when you were young, so those do not really fit the rubric of the post.

r91, I tried that, and it didn't work.

The floaters got intrusive and chronic enough that, after a year, I had vitrectomies on both eyes (two months apart). Out-patient surgery, quick (the drive to the surgery and the administering of the anesthesia took longer than the procedure), only wore a patch one day, an air bubble inserted for a week (it went away in three-four days each time). It has made a world of difference in quality of life, as reading is both my vocation and avocation. Between Medicare and Excellus, my payment for a surgery listed as 11,000 was only 300.

But the question wasn’t what you NOTICED, it was what you were TOLD ABOUT, R94. I may have noticed veiny hands but younger people can have them too. Not everyone old gets crepey skin when they age. Just because you may see it sometimes doesn’t mean it isn’t a shock when it happens to you and nobody told me it would happen. That’s the point of this thread.

Gold Bond skin cream for crepey skin actually works really well and it's affordable. I was skeptical, but it does minimize it significantly.

Compared to everyone else, I feel like I've been very lucky. Knock on wood. I don't want to jinx myself.

The only Gold Bond I've seen has the most obnoxious odor.

Gold Bond reminds me of my Grandma. She used to powder her chest. It was either Shower to Shower ( do they still make that) or Gold Bond.

[quote]I have no idea what switch got turned on that said nose hair shall grow like jungle weed and it's thick, coarse and gray. Not to mention the stray hair that grows outside of my nose and on my lobe and ear rim. WTF?

I have NEVER come across a nose hair trimmer that actually works - or works more than two times and dies. It's crazy. Does anyone have any recommendations for one that actually works without yanking hairs out or just gently brushing them and not cutting?

R101 - try one with a flat blade. Like this one - but a bit larger.

The round ones with the blade inside are not precise - I wonder why people even use them. You can angle the blade against your ear or nose to get all of it out.

So many of them have a round end which always seemed weird to me. You don't have round razors?

I get a chinese eyebrow razor and stick that sucker up my nose and twist

I’m 65 and have several things mentioned on this thread. The nose and eyebrows long random hairs are a nuisance as I need to put on my reading glasses to see them, then I have to get a magnifying mirror and scissors to trim them and the glasses get in the way.

Last summer I had problems with my knee which lasted for months, now finally it is ok, I’ve no idea what it was. Like a poster above mentioned, over the past few months I’ve noticed the skin under my arms is wrinkly and a bit saggy and I hate it.

My main problems are my enlarged prostate rubbing against my bladder. I’ve had all of the scans, some twice, plus the camera down my dick thing over the past couple of years. The hospital says there is nothing sinister and not to worry. But I sometimes have to get up several times during the night for a pee. Usually I pee and within minutes of getting back into bed I have to go again.

My hearing is also getting worse, but it was never perfect. But all things considered I think I am doing ok. I am still fairly fit and in shape, for my age anyway. I wasn’t taking any regular medication at all until 6 months ago when my doctor suggested I take statins, which I do.

Unlike others on this thread who have mentioned that they can no longer tolerate alcohol, I still enjoy it. I am not an alcoholic and I don’t drink everyday, but I couldn’t imagine going without red wine at weekends. I stopped smoking about 30 years ago, eat a fairly healthy diet, exercise, I am not overweight, but I am damn well not going without my last real indulgence, even if it cuts a couple of years off my life.

Re: nose and ear hair, and eyebrows. I use purpose-made blunt-tipped scissors to keep density at bay. Said scissors were one small but useful inheritance from my late father, who used them to trim his moustache. Thanks Dad.

Dry, itchy scalp

Really finding it difficult to get up off the floor or from a squatting position. I have to have something to pull myself up with.

[quote]Gold Bond reminds me of my Grandma. She used to powder her chest.

Did it help her avoid a crepey poitrine?

Loss of ballistics in ejaculation—I used to be a shooter, but its been a few years now.

One wild white eyebrow hair.

Depleted leg hair—uncoincidentally, on the areas where I wear socks and where I cross my legs.

Some excess ear hair, but fortunately, no increase in nose hair. The eyebrows have been steadily eroding for decades. I just turned 60.

[quote]Depleted leg hair—uncoincidentally, on the areas where I wear socks and where I cross my legs.

God, yes. I used to have legs like a gorilla. Now they're hairless and actually shiny.

R63 you lost your math skills.

R107 - or you need to do that exercise 20x a day. The ability to get up off the floor is important. If you can't do that, you need to practice doing it until you can.

This just showed up in my feed.

Sometimes when I cough I suddenly get a sharp pain in my abdominal muscles that would take an elephant down.

Talks of floaters and cataracts ... I had a minor retinal tear, which, thank god, healed on its own.

It's another condition caused by "natural aging" where the vitreous gel inside the eye pulls away from the retina, potentially tearing it. This is known as posterior vitreous detachment (PVD).

Some people see flashes across their vision, especially when they move their head and their line of sight changes. Mine was a dark. shadowy spot in my peripheral vision.

Does anyone else have trouble being on their knees? This started recently. I can get up from a crouching position with no problem, but I cannot get on my knees on hardwood floors or any hard surface without a towel or something underneath.

The scary Red Foreman like bulging head/face veins.

From the bathroom, "Nothing but bitter disappointment in here!"

[quote] Does anyone have any recommendations for one that actually works without yanking hairs out or just gently brushing them and not cutting?

It's really bad to yank nostril hairs out or pluck them--you can get really nasty infections that way since its in your nostril.

I use special narrow long scissors made for cutting nose hairs.

You could also try braiding them.

But seriously, you don't want to get rid of nostril hair altogether, because it serves a purpose by filtering dust and pollen. Some think these hairs even have an effect on stopping bacteria and viruses.

Just how easy it is to put myself out of commission for the day.

I have thrown my back out petting my dog.

I have had a charlie horse in my lower rib area from yawning that lasted an hour.

I have thrown my back out AND had the mother of all hot flashes putting on a sport bra.

stupid shit like that all the time.

Itchy moles. Dermatologist says to live with it.

Estelle Costanza at R118.

Chins.

I used to cum like Old Faithful. Now I cum like Old Man.

Interesting, R122; I've developed an itchy mole over the last couple of months on my arm. I thought it was one of those pre-cancerous things you have to get scraped off. I have a dermatologist appointment in a couple of weeks.

crotch rot

Eyebrows becoming gray. What a trip!

Generalized aches & pains every morning when getting up, & every evening, right before turning in.

BRAIN FOG. Not dementia or Alzheimer’s, but just general brain fog. You’ve done “x” a million times before, but sometimes, you just go blank for a split second.

For women: MENOPAUSE. I honestly felt fortunate AF because I was somehow barely, if at all affected by it because statistically speaking, I’m much older than the age when women actually begin feeling and experiencing the effects of it, by nearly 20 years. Welp! It’s FINALLY here, & it’s DIFFERENT. Women should know that if it doesn’t get you by 40? It might very well get you MUCH later on.

Look, I still have all of my own teeth, & I am exceptionally not horribly wrinkled yet, nor do I have any cellulite. But I’m aging, even if slower than others, it’s happening, & all in all? I’m grateful AF to still be here & experiencing what this all feels like.

Relatively speaking, I’ll be dead soon enough, so I’m good with ALL of it. I don’t necessarily like it at ALL, but I’m so fucking happy I’m an old gal now! ❤️

Nasal hair is surprisingly painless to wax. It gets pulled away with a sudden 'pop' sensation, too quickly to be felt.

Just place the wax applicator inside the lower quarter of the nasal cavity, leaving enough hairs to filter the dust and pollen and then pull.

Same here R16. It hurts my knees terribly.

Mounjaro (Trirzepatide) seems to work better for inflammation and immune issues than Ozempic.

Does anyone take testosterone?

How about this one - dry ear canals. Endless itching inside the ear. Very very carefully scratch it or I’d go mad.

Aging semen that has a yellowish tinge...

R116, I took a yoga class on Sunday and it killed my knees. They still hurt. 20 years ago I could spend the better part of the weekend on my knees with no issues.

R135 naughty naughty! You rascal you

Beat me to it r133.

Losing the fat on the soles of your feet and bunions. Walking barefoot hurts.

I've had house slippers with arches for the past 3 years. My podiatrist said never to walk barefoot. I refuse to buy a house dress tho.

I've had a few white pubes for maybe 25 years, but they're still in a distinct minority. Grey hairs starting to dominate my temples, though.

R132 I do. 1ml IM injection every two weeks. It has improved my life.

i wake up at 3am to pee every night, then toss, turn, and worry about the world.

Crepey skin, arms are prone to it.

One of my faves:

Seborrheic Keratosis: Harmless, waxy growths that can appear on the back.

[quote]I have a pair of tweezers in the bathroom to pull out the hairs out when they get noticeably longer.

Please don't anybody do this or it will lead to bald eyebrows. Don't ever pluck. You need to clipper your eyebrows with a #2 or #3 or #4 attachment (or combination of). Do it once a week and that will keep them tidy at all times. You can clipper around your ears at the same time and you'll always be in good nick.

I’m aging and very skinny, so it’s that package deal where you keep your slim waist but in exchange there’s flesh-wasting, muscle-wasting in areas where you never had an ounce to spare. It makes my neck/collarbone area and my shins/feet very emaciated and prematurely elderly-looking.

I envy the plumper healthier looking fit-fat guys, bodywise.

R144, yep. Had none at 40, had two small ones at 50, now they’re multiplying.

R115 that can be quite serious. I see a retina specialist once a year because I’m at major risk for retinal tears.

Being thin suddenly becomes being frail.

I don't know why it took me so long to say so, but my pussy stinks.

Does anyone have "ball droop"? I don't need a testicle lift procedure, but I do get annoyed with my balls falling out of my boxers occasionally.

Are there any treatments available to reduce the appearance of those prominent head/face veins that come with aging?

Ear and nose hairs that seem to spring out of nowhere overnight.

Constant dull knee pain.

The overwhelming desire to take a nap every afternoon.

[Quote] For women: MENOPAUSE.

Exhausting. Please leave. This is a board for gay men. It’s not as if there aren’t twelve billion forums for women.

We are gay men and we don’t care about menopause or endo and don’t want to read about it.

Imagine if this were a forum stated as being for black men and it were overrun by white women. Go someplace else.

But it always has R150. Did the stench get worse as you aged? I can't imagine!

"Exhausting. Please leave."

That's such a frau thing to write.

R151 Oh, my gosh, yes. My balls are droopin' like a 65-year old woman's mammaries.

R134 Be happy you've got semen. I had a prostatectomy last year and it's dry orgasms from here on out.

At least I save money on Kleenex.

r158, when PrEP-resistant HIV emerges, you'll also be able to top raw with no consequences

R138 - yep, we lose the fat pads on the bottom of our feet as we get older.

They are starting to sell extra padded-sole socks now (FINALLY) that aren't those huge orthopedic kind with plastic bottoms.

But yes - after 40-45, regular shoes started to become less comfortable. I started buying extra-padded shoes and they're amazing. Samuel Hubbard is a great brand - very good quality and they last forever. Unfortunately many of the pairs I have can cost close to $300 a pair.

I will cosign R160. Samuel Hubbard shoes are amazing.

The upside of lowered balls: it creates the image of a more prominent VPL. I get more ¡ay papi! than ever.

R161 - they really are - they are very classic-styled shoes, so you're not going to look overly fashionable, but you can see that they are really high-quality shoes.

Thanks for the Samuel Hubbard shoes tip, I need those. Been looking for office-appropriate shoes that are comfortable for increasingly skinny feet, but not shoes that say “These are orthopedic shoes. I am old.”

PAF that suddenly appears and refuses to go away, even when you lose weight and do ab exercises until you collapse.

CAFFEINE -EVEN A LITTLE CAN MAKE VERTIGO WORSE! but I find it impossible to give up caffeine.

R164 - yep, that was the point of making the brand. The CEO was the guy who started Rockport shoes and wanted to create a brand of classic, well-made premium and comfortable shoes for men 40+.

They do have sales throughout the year. I have 12 pairs - but only because I was able to get great deals during these sales. They're pricey but worth it. Not every style looks great but they're getting better.

I am very short tempered at times. It is unexpected and it is worrying. I'm in my 70's.

R154 = that INCEL who haunts the DL

The small hairs that sprout up at the end of my nose or near it.

Too small often to actually see without a magnifying glass, but I can see it in my line of vision well enough to distract me....but not clearly enough to accurately snip it down.

R169 says that CAPS frau femcel that infests a Gay Website😆

Pricey? Not very.

Your beef is with Muriel, R154. I liked the old DL divisions of "Politics," "Gossip," and "Lesbian." They have been gone for a long time. But some of us lesbians have been here longer than you have, obviously, and we came here when there was a separate space for us. And lots of "in the know" gay men with [bold]lots[/bold] of juicy gossip that was well worth reading.

Talk to the boss about it.

I just developed my third case of planters fascists this week. Annoying.

Benito bunions & Franco foot are the worst!

I have four days of flu symptoms after getting the flu shot, the Covid shot (separately) - every year. Last time I actually got the flu three months after getting the shot.

You’re not funny, you’re sick!

The emergence of heartburn where no heartburn existed before.

Thinning skin that bleeds profusely after a mere nick.

We aren’t THAT old R179

R175 - I swear, I corrected autocorrect once and fascists popped right back in. Autocorrect can be as annoying as the foot condition.

R173 it's not the dykes it's the neurotic chronically victimized Frauen that have RUINED this site. They need to take their CAPS &SMELLY unused pussies buy a vibrator and leave us GAY MEN the the fuck alone..

R181 Fascista!

And, yet R182, you and your gross photo and rabid misogyny got you put on my ignored list.

R176 The flu shot doesn't prevent you from getting the flu. It helps but it's not a guarantee. Also, there's many different strains of flu and the annual flu shot you get doesn't (and can't) give you full coverage over every single variety of flu.

For the 23/24 season, I got my Covid booster and flu shot in mid October. 10 days later I got Covid though the booster helped a lot; it was a pretty mild experience. Then, first of December I got a NASTY case of flu which dragged on for 3 weeks. Finally, in late January I got ANOTHER case of flu, but it was quite mild. I did research and that year's flu shot was very good at fighting the 2nd flu I got but not so great at the strain I got in December.

They can't magically cover everything.

This season...nothing. No flus or Covid.

Knock wood!

Also: it really annoys me that there isn't a better plural for "flu".

"Flues" and "Flus" both aren't right.

Flooes?

Maybe it's both plural and singular at the same time?

R187 Apparently, that's the case but it still looks odd.

English is crazy sometimes.

How about "influenze"?

DUH, R185

Senior Les at R173 pay him no mind. There will always be love here on DL for our scissoring sisters!

Periodic skin tags...on my ball sac!

They itch like hell. I ask my dermatologist to burn them off, which he does, but it's awkward as hell.

[quote]But yes - after 40-45, regular shoes started to become less comfortable.

This just started with my 46 year-old brother. He can't wear most kinds of shoes anymore because they just kill his feet. He can only wear a small number of certain brands/styles now.

I'm sixty-two. and other than getting up to pee most nights I haven't suffered any of these conditions.

I should be more grateful.

[quote]The small hairs that sprout up at the end of my nose or near it.

For a few years now I've had one black hair that grows next to my nose on the left side. Just one, and it just appeared one day. It's so weird. I pluck it out as soon as it starts to grow back.

I used to run on a treadmill for 30 minutes like it was nothing. Now I speed-walk for 15 minutes and it's tough to even do that.

Me too R196 3-4 miles was nothing.

Granted: I’ve been fit my adult life because I was a fat kid. Plus, I’m a hyperactive vapid, vacuous mess.

At 57, my visible 6 or sometimes 8 pack is surrounded by saggy yellowish skin - think of a ripped Tyson Turkey skin and you get the idea.

At 57, my glutes disappeared and now I have two saddlebags resting right below an ass upon which they once they were on top.

At 57, my body does not like onions. I’ve never been a fan, but they are important for most of the dishes I prepare.

Tinnitus.

I'm amazed sometimes when I'm in a publoic bathroom and the guy peeing in a stall pees like a horse. It sounds like someone turned on a faucet. My urine stream has never been strong, but as I get older it also is hard to aim.

R194 at your age you should have learned to piss, not to pee.

R200 as well

R201 And at your age you're still an asshole.

R198 = KEY WORD - 57

my body does not like onions

I love onions, but I think I've developed a sensitivity that causes my stomach to react unpleasantly when I eat tomatoes and tomato sauce. I soldier through it because I love tomato sandwiches in the summer and occasional spaghetti with onions and peppers for dinner.

R195, I have exactly the same thing. The hair is just out of reach of the razor. Fortunately it seems rooted shallowly and so when it's long enough I can yank it out painlessly with my fingertips.

Coffee runs through me like a goddamn river now. I have to piss five minutes after drinking it. I can't drink it while driving anymore because I know I'll need to stop at a restroom and it's just too inconvenient.

Oh, yeah!!! The pissing!

My flow is so pathetic. It's embarrassing being at a busy urinal and the guy next to you is pissing like a horse while my sad little trickle dribbles out.

[quote] This just started with my 46 year-old brother. He can't wear most kinds of shoes anymore because they just kill his feet. He can only wear a small number of certain brands/styles now.

Tell him to wear olive oil cans.

Moving teeth!

I cannot eat hot dogs anymore. I’m still full of gas and upset from having two Nathan’s yesterday.

R205 It's not unusual not to be able to digest onions or tomatos (or sauce) as you get older. You should probably just not eat them.

There's a way to roast carrots to create a simiar flavor to tomato sauce but I'd have to look it up.

R212 Yeah, I loved tomatoes, but I can't eat them anymore without getting terrible heartburn.

Raw tomatoes sometimes give me the runs now. My motion sickness has gotten worse- thanks Mom- hers is so bad now, she barfs everytime she flies. I hope I don't get that bad.

I can't eat 90 percent of what I used to......it sucks. Bad food allergies/IBS/gastritis.

When it gets down to liquids only I'm going the euthanasia route.

R215, before ending it all, take the vodka rout first and stock up on tp. Eat what you think is safe in smaller portions more frequently.

I’m dealing cancer. I have had to increase eating to six times a day vs. two. And, I’m pretending I don’t drink. Nobody is fooled.

Cannot digest deep fried food without getting nauseous anymore. I did have gastric sleeve surgery nine years ago, so…

I used to be able to eart anything, now I have reactions to foods--like, I can't eat squash or sweet potatoes, or wine or gin that has nitrites.

Larger earlobes. Weird!

R198, can you tolerate shallots? I sub them for onions in almost everything now.

R198 I feel your pain . I once had a cute round ass .Was complimented on it many times. Now its a sad saggy remnant of its former self. And what really gets me is one cheek is way smaller than the other .WTF is that about ???

Join the club—I have an ident on one side, to make things worse….

Dried up, brittle skin in arms and legs that sometimes cause tiny sores that won't heal for months. WTF!

Nose and ear hairs seem to be an issue for older men. Growing up in my Mediterranean family, ear and nose hairiness was prominent; the women helped the men cope. I often saw a man running around helplessly with a tweezer, asking his wife for assistance.

Has anyone considered asking their significant others to pull the hairs out? To help with using the nose hair cutter?

It is so much easier.

You can also use lasers for a more permanent solution.

What idiot can't cut their own nose and ear hair? But anyway, there was a time when it was the barber's job to trim ear hair. Then people stopped uasing barbers.

My (hot) barber trims my ear hair.

Sarcopenia 😒😠

I can't tolerate any beverage with caffeine just a small amount will keep me up for 2 days.

My barber does ear hair. And eyebrows of course.

Lady Nicholas brows, or more basic.

Thinning, brittle hair. Inability to digest dairy.

Everything you eat makes you fart. Everything.

I’m 48, with weird pains in my foot.

I also woke up a few months ago, and while lying still in bed, I swear I could actually hear a muscle rip in my shoulder. I couldn’t move my neck without serious pain. Then, after 3 days, I was fine again.

My teeth are a disaster too.

Spicy food, or the combination of sugar and cream give me what genteel people call “digestive discomfort”.

I can't eat spicy food at all, it causes bad problems that last for hours.

Occasional small rough, itchy patches on skin. Eczema or Psoriasis. Gold Bond has a cream for it that works.

The skin on my forearms is getting thinner and thinner.

Even a slight brush against something can cause a bleed. Looks like hell, but it doesn't hurt. I never know that I've done something until I look down and see a lesion.

If your cortisol increases when you get older, does it ward off cytokine storms? Because isn't cortisol given as a treatment?

Toe spasms, Charlie horses, that kind of thing. Why don't they warn us?

Anybody else get a charlie horse while you're sleeping? It's awful, you're woken from a sound sleep with horrible cramping pain in your calf then hop out of bed and jump around trying to get rid of it.

R239 - calf cramping can be a sign of dehydration. Di you get enough water?

Yes, R239, I've had a few lately. I scream into my pillow. I didn't think of getting up. I figured that would make it worse.

Diarrhea. All day.

The surprising feeling when you get a new doctor and you like them.

enlarged prostate; constant peeing.

ED. The pills seem to fix it and fast, but...there are minor side effects after.

I'm starting to think about death. My parents are gone.

Not close with sibs or rest of family.

I just don't want to suffer.

I have some good years left. Ironically, I'm in best shape ever. It's never too late to start trying.

R67 - I’ve lost 40 lbs since Christ day. And the hips, knees and ankles have never felt better.

^ Christmas!

(I have been having intermittent foot pain for months, but it is getting more frequent. I wear a decent quality gym shoe and walk around my hardwood floors barefoot. Lately I've had terrible aching pain on the soles of my feet and it causes my lower legs to feel stiff and heavy. It's concerning. I have soaked them in Epson salt, I have massaged them, and they feel better in the morning, but as the day goes on they get worse. I have been sedentary because of it. I'm too fucking young to have mobility problems. I'm also getting muscular pains around my hip. I'm only in my 60's. My sister said I need an anti inflammatory diet. I stopped drinking alcohol, and I don't drink soda or coffee, mostly green tea. I have a call in to my podiatrist. I hope it's not serious. Maybe I need Dr. Scholl's gel pads or something. Fuck.

Have you tried a Revitive device for your foot pain, R247? I have used one intermittently, and it definitely helps to draw blood back into your feet. It's ultrasound and is surprisingly powerful. The spasms it creates seem shocking at first, but then it becomes relaxing. The vibrations can undo all kinds of adhesions and even stop spurs from forming.

Many years ago I had a very badly broken toe and went to a podiatrist, should have gone to an orthopedic and then PT. Toe healed wrong and kills me every few months if I walk too much.

Urinary flow. Especially if I’ve been sitting at my desk at work. At night when I’m either relaxing on the couch or in bed, it’s not a problem. I’m too chicken to make a medical appointment.

R250 Go. There’s a lot a urologist can do. They can get things moving again.

R250 Too much or too little?

If it's too little, it's probably just an enlarged prostate, which every guy gets after a certain age. But as R250 says, do get it checked out with a urologist.

THANK YOU, R248!!!!!! I just ordered one from Walmart.

Farts are now spelled with an "sh."

Thanks r251 and r252. I will make the appointment. W

Looking in a full length mirror. THE worst pain.

That's when deteriorating eyesight is a blessing.

Arthritis shows up in the weirdest of places.

R241 Get up, stretch and have a tall glass of water. It'll be gone in seconds.

Thanks I'll do that!

I am used to transferring weight on the fly as I am walking.

Tonight I nearly fell over switching the weight of heavy grocery bag from one to the other shoulder This was not heavy - topped 25 pounds- it’s a balancing issue.

R101 and others above dealing wIth ear and nose hair - don’t trim or pluck - wax. It hurts like hell but only for a second and is incredibly fast and effective. I only have to use it monthly.

It’s also weirdly satisfactory to me to pull the applicator out and see a veritable forest that I’ve been growing.

Designed for noses but I use it on and a couple of mm in the ear. YMMV.

I’m not sure if you can get it in the States but I’m sure you can get it online.

I’ll say it - penile and testicular shrinkage.

Cecil Beaton (poolside): The one thing that I retreat about getting older is that my genitals are shrinking.

Great Garbo: Would that I could say the same.

This started in my early 50s - vertigo. I always had it on high landmarks or tall buildings but now I have it on any type of stairway - a massive urge to throw myself down. It’s fucking annoying and actually kind of scary.

When I think of how I used to sprint down the stairs at the local railways station not to miss the train when younger.

R263 reminds me of an exchange Martin Amis reported in his final book, with his wife.

Isabel Fonseca (from the bathroom): My breasts are getting smaller.

Martin Amis (from the bedroom): That's OK. Mine are getting bigger.

Should have been “regret” not “retreat”.

I had no idea Martin Amis had died until I read "final book" at r265. How fitting that he died of esophageal cancer like his friend Christopher Hitchens. I enjoyed their work a lot.

This reminds me of the posts on one of the numerous Barbra Streisand threads. People remarked on how Babs always held on to someone when walking, and decided that she had some complex neurological condition. Most likely 80+ year old Barbra has BALANCE ISSUES. Most elderly people have age related balance issues. You’ll find out.

For E & N pruning. Cheap & Painless.

R262 Don't use Nads. It's awful. Go to a professional.

My balance issues and vertigo are related to rheumatoid arthritis, which first manifested in my knees. I'm tall and thin. Top heavy, high centre of gravity. Naturally wide shoulders and chest us large head. Low balcony railings are my bane.

And escalators. Those long ones in the Metro are terrifying. I have to hook my cane in the crook of my elbow and use both hands sideways on the handrail. Launching myself onto them is also pretty scary.

Stairs not so bad. Thank dog for elevators.

Daily balance exercises really make a difference. There's a ton of online videos if there aren't classes offered near you.

R270 I’ve been happily using Nads for years. Of course YMMV.

I'm closing in on 70. I have a tip. I started stretching in the morning. I wake up and stretch my arms and legs, and my body, and do a couple more moves, ending up with some "kitchen sink " push ups and the whole routine takes about 15 minutes. It gets my circulation going and limbers me up and I top it off with a big glass of hot water with Lemon juice, and a cup of Green Tea. It's made an amazing difference.

R274, I wake like a cat because I live alone. It’s like rolling around the bed. I just wish I had the ceiling height to flip.

acid reflux

Pubic fat increasing

Do you mean Fupa? Because I've had that since my early 20s?

Well I think I have PVD posterior vitreous detachment). I have to go to my general md to get a referral to an opthamologist, which I should be getting tomorrow. What happens: the gel that fills your eyeball separates from your retina. It's a common condition with age. PVD can cause floaters or flashes of light, which you may ignore over time. Posterior vitreous detachment isn't painful or sight-threatening. Commonly starts at 60.

I turned 60 this year.

You have R278? How have you dealt with it?

Random long black hairs. There is one on the top of my hand.

I just found out at the dentist this week I have grown one single wisdom tooth that needs to be removed. My whole teenage and adult life I was told I would have no wisdom teeth at all. I also have 4 cavities after never having any my whole life. I feel like a late 40s male MTM getting her tonsils removed.

r282, my 81 year old mother started getting cavities. I'm guessing is that she's making less saliva and sleeping with her mouth open, which is totally drying out her mouth (she complains about it in the am).

I can’t get cavities, I’m crowned.

R283, I've been getting dry mouth too lately. So I have been keeping a bottle of water on my nightstand and since I wake up two or three times a night to go to the bathroom, I take a couple of sips. And I was trotting to the bathroom during the night even before I started doing this.

Non-essential tremors. I’ve seen a neurologist many times. My head shakes worse than my hands. I try to take medication for it, but it’s the same type of medication used for seizures, and it makes me feel like shit. One of the medications, Propranolol, made me suicidal.

All of the posters who talked about the stomach weight. It can be controlled. I have known many men in my life who suffered with it. A better diet ,exercise, and no drinking. The men I have noticed it happen to are big beer drinkers.

I too have noticed a reduced sexual drive. I take a substance called Irish Sea Moss. It makes you horny, improves your drive, and makes you come harder. I have also been using cock rings. I am glad to have a lower sex drive. I never realized until I aged how much thought and energy I put in to being sexual satisfied. It was a distraction to be honest. Now I feel more normal. Of course my husband and I don't have sex- but we have found that just physically touching and kissing can produce the same feelings as sex- with less mess, as my husband quotes .Also separate beds. I wake up with far more energy, focus, and happiness not sharing my big bed.

I'm sure this has been posted upthread but KNEES.

I attribute my issues to strenuous, high impact exercise in my youth. I'm paying the price now at 51.

R279, I have that as well and am also 60. I feel the floaters have gotten worse over the last couple of years. I worry about losing my eyesight. I had cataracts removed as well in my late 50s.

Don't see an ophthalmologist, see a RETINA SPECIALIST

I've had floaters my entire adult life. Maybe ever before.

Ceiling fans make my floaters worse.

No of the above. Jealous old farts?

I think specialists just make up diseases to diagnose the no-longer-young. For the past 5 years, my ophthalmologist has yearly brought to my attention that I have pigment dispersion syndrome in my eyes. (My iris sheds little tiny flakes that go floating into the aqueous humor, apparently). There's always a very serious tone as she says, "now I don't want to scare you, and right now we're just watching and waiting, but it's possible for those flakes someday to block the retinal drainage canals and lead to glaucoma. and potential blindness". Great.

For all those rightly apprehensive about symptoms of retinal detachment: keep very alert, and move very fast in the event of notable deterioration. Time is of the essence. I've been very lucky, twice.

you don't process alcohol in the same way. I used to enjoy social drinking but now alcohol is a total turn off. (I'm 60.) You get all the bad effects of alcohol and almost none of the good ones. Sayonara, booze! It was a fine affair but now it's over.

So true r296. The negative effects of alcohol started happening to me in my forties, as it did with many friends and other people I know. Drinking was fun anymore after 40 and we all eventually cut way back or quit entirely. When the party’s over it’s OVER.

Sorry, drinking WASN’T fun anymore after 40.

Cherry angiomas? I had one of those as a kid.

Where does hearing loss fit in?

How MUCH did you people drink before 40???

I drank a lot. Gave it up when I was 44, after being diagnosed with fatty liver disease and risked a cardiac event due to my cardiomyopathy. So I gave it up for health reasons as well as it had been affecting my work.

I miss drinking so much but I just cant anymore . The hangovers arent worth it. Besides I always drank at gay bars and they barely exist now. I personally dont see the appeal of getting drunk with a bunch of straights .

When I smoked, I drank. I quit smoking 25 years ago. I kept drinking, less often to excess, for another 20 years, but it meant less time in bars. No-one hates second hand smoke more than a recent ex-smoker.

Now, aside from a wedding or holiday dinner glass of wine, I don’t drink. I was never dependent but was still surprised I was able to stop, cold, so easily. Don’t envy me. I have known and loved a lot of people, some in my family, who couldn’t.

I stopped drinking completely a few years ago because even if I had just two drinks the next day I was so tired and just felt "off." TWO drinks would do that to me! It wasn't worth it anymore.

I recall reading somewhere that David Knight used to date Jason Gould! And when David mentioned that married model who eventually came out, I am sure that he was talking about Brian Buzzini. He was married to swimsuit model Ashley Richardson and they weren’t married very long before they suddenly decided to divorce. YMMV. I loved Buzzini.

[query] Where does hearing loss fit in?

R300 Just beyond my two hearing aids!

I’ve had high frequency hearing loss since I was a child, and it declined to the point that I needed hearing aids when I was around 60. One of my friends was my audiologist (she’s retired now), and the advances in hearing aid technology I’ve heard about in the 30 or so years I’ve known her are substantial, particularly when hearing aids went from analog to digital. They can be so small now that essentially no one will see that someone is wearing them.

^^^That should have been quote, not query in the brackets!

I feel like I'm suddenly having difficulty digesting beef and even sprinkle of salt makes the heart feel weird

Jason Gould had a date? That’s news, R306.

ennui

I can't even drink a couple beers without a raging hangover the next day. Oh. and forget dairy.

R310, wrong thread, 😬 sorry.

I can'y drink any beverage that contains caffeine a small amount will keep me up for 2 days.

R314. I have a 1pm curfew on caffeine.

I made the mistake of having a Thai iced tea with dinner at 6pm, and even after a concert, talking with my friend until 1:30, I couldn't fall asleep until 2:30 ish.

Prediabetic/Extremely sensitive to sweets - 1 sweet thing makes me jittery (at least I keep the weight off when I avoid it), gray hair, crows feet, forgetfulness, need 2 hour nap after work, bifocals.

R193: I was the same until I had bunion surgery on both feet. Now, my balance is better and I can wear all my shoes.

r312, I'm prediabetic too. I get a slight headache if I eat really sugary things. Monkfruit sweetener is a godsend.

Got back from the opthomologist- good news- it's not a retinal detachment, it's PVD and will get better in about 2 weeks. Not great news- when one eye gets it, the other one gets in within 6 months. Sometimes coughing hard or really high impact exercising will make it happen. I sneeze violently, so that's what probably did it, as I don't do high impact anymore. Also have dry eyes, got sent home with 2 eye drops, with another one in 2 weeks after my check up.

What is PVD, R320?

I'm r279, explanation there

[quote] Sometimes coughing hard or really high impact exercising will make it happen.

Make sure your head isn't near your headboard when you're getting railed.

I took the home colon test and Friday afternoon my doctor called me and said that there was an abnormality in my test. Now I have to schedule a dreaded colonoscopy. I’ve had a polyp removed ten years ago so I’m just a bit worried about it.

And with that post I just made I hijacked the thread. My apologies.

Colonoscopy prep is not as awful as it once was. See if you can get the low volume prep or the pill. You won't be awake for the procedure. Everyone should have a baseline colonoscopy at age 45.

Good luck.

I've been making jokes at the gym for years about being the old guy (early 60s, here; and believe it not, I was carded till my 30s and thrown out of a bar at 26 -- despite having an i.d. -- for looking too young).

The outsides aren't so bad; inside? I'm peeing constantly. I've seen a urologist and had blood work done, but this is chronic.

If I stay busy, I don't notice it but when I slow down it drives me nuts (no pun intended).

When you have to shit you have to shit RIGHT NOW.

Has anyone had success in reducing or eliminating tinnitus ?

Thanks r326. I appreciate it.

R329 No, but just this morning, CBS news had a report about this new electronic device that you place on your tongue for a few minutes and it eliminates tinnitus. Unfortunately, insurance doesn't cover it and the cost is about $4,000.

Fucking insurance barely covers anything anymore. Fucking cunts.

I've been giving myself after-bath pedicures since my teens, wearing down calluses and corns with a little soapy water and a pumice stone. (Nobody told me about this, I just saw my mom doing it on her own feet which were all gnarly from decades of wearing impractical ladies' footwear.) An emery board works well too on dry feet, especially just after a bath/shower. I used to use salcylic acid acne gel on my feet to prevent calluses, but I can't find it any more. Aloe vera after sun gel is a good way to soften both hands and feet without making them slippery.

[quote]I've been giving myself after-bath pedicures since my teens

In a turban and caftan, with a Virginia Slim smoldering next to you in the ashtray.

Body "stiffness" is real. Lol. It can be worked out with enough time and movement, but then it comes back.

Back hair... what the hell? If the hair on my back was on my chest, I'd go shirtless as often as socially acceptable. I never had back hair and then over the years, I began to grow the stuff. Damn. And I HATE trying to remove it on my own...

R326, most people fast for two days and take a Gatorade MiraLAX plus pill laxative the day before these days.

Everything you ever wanted to know about prep

You can take shit pills for colonoscopies now, no need anymore to drink that awful shit liquid.

R339, see R337. We’re way ahead of you.

Toenail fungus 😟

[quote]"Flues" and "Flus" both aren't right.

dodod

People of all ages get toenail fungus today because they take showers and not baths.

My bathroom is shower only. I soak my feet in a large plastic bowl and after drying and moisturizing I put caster oil or Vicks Vapo-Rub on them. It’s been a slow process but I think it’s working.

In my youth I enjoyed drinking very much, I was always down for a night of bar-hopping, but in my middle age I've found that drinking doesn't appeal to me at all anymore. I never thought I'd lose interest in alcohol, but it's like I "outgrew" it.

skin tags

R239 I actually had those more as a kid/teen/YA than I do now.

r239, you need to drink more water.

Lady Gal chiming in here! I thought I was through the worst of menopause (p.s. it's as bad as they say, I did grow a beard and was hot as the beejeepers all the time! LOL!) but within the past year I've started to get UTI's like their going out of business! LOL! Also my toenails are now as thick as plywood, what's up with that?

R349 are your toenails discolored?

63 here and the beginning of the end has begun.

I had a nice long run with zero age issues and now, I'm peeing constantly.

Hoping to stay active, lay off the booze, and eat right so I can enjoy some more years.

R351 You've still got a long life ahead of your, but it does suck how things seem to change so much after 60.

In my 50s, I was in great shape, had tons of energy, and zero medical issues.

Now, at 63, I've had prostate cancer, am currently going through radiation, my knees kill me, my skin is getting saggy, and although I still work out and exercise, I can't lift the same weight amounts I used to and I get tired much more quickly during cardio.

I spend much of time just trying to avoid mirrors.

I got down on my knees to put air in my tire and imagine my horror when I absolutely could not get up . I had left the driver door open so I knee walked over to it and finally was able to get up. That was new and oh so humiliating as there were people all around.

It takes about an hour for my posterior's parts to realign and recede after I endure my daily business.

I have plantar fasciitis right now. Just got over diverticulitis. Plus eye floaters. I’m in the final quarter.

Narrowing thighs! 😭

Hairless legs ! Flat ass ! Shrinking dick ! So many others to boot. Getting old is hell .

Experiencing indigestion. I had an iron stomach most of my life but since my late 30s eating too much Indian food or eating it too close to bed makes me wake up with indigestion

R229 I was having lunch with a few people and there was a guy who was interesting and informative. I really couldn’t focus because he had about an inch or so of ear hair hanging outside his ear.

R216 Sending good wishes your way. Cancer sucks.

Is shrinking dick actually a thing?

It's not shrinking per se, just retreating.

In my 40s I was obsessed with not getting old - looks, body, fitness. Now at age 62, I’m mostly interested in being the best version of myself at age 62. I’m far happier now than 20 years ago because of it.

[quote]I am glad to have a lower sex drive. I never realized until I aged how much thought and energy I put in to being sexual satisfied.

I agree. I went through menopause and I lost my sex drive completely (and I was such a pig before that!). But It was so freeing!

Before I would have to live somewhere with a substantially sized gay community, which really narrowed my options. Now, I live in Deplorable Haven -- and it's a lot cheaper than anywhere else I've ever lived.

Plus! No dyke drama! I had no idea how much that kind of bullshit occupied my time/brain until it was gone. And that's good, because I have all my aches and pains to make up for it.

I had seven covid shots, and after a trip to NYC last summer, I got covid with a vengeance (started to feel sick on the drive back to FL). And I just got a flu shot a few months ago, and, while in Panama, I got the flu (started to feel sick on the flight home), and I can barely get out of bed.

It's like my immune system has abandoned me! But then I think about the guys with HIV back in the day -- so I'm trying to be grateful. But I don't feel one little bit grateful.

Oh well.

Spots and bumps appear overnight on my face like toadstools on a stump.

R352, that's very kind of you as we're the same age (oh, hell, even if we weren't the same age, you sound very kind).

I'm trying not to bemoan all those years I wasted overeating and overdrinking. Now, I don't drink (hardly ever) and I work out all the time.

I'm trying to make the most of the rest of my life. And you're correct. I have some years ahead of me. There's a 73-year-old out there who'd kill to be my age -- just as I'd love to be 10 years younger, too.

I feel like I got cheated out of my prime because I came of age when the AIDS epidemic/pandemic whatever it was started.

Could you imagine if AIDS had hit the straight world and not the gay world? All those gay and bi men who were on the fence who got married to women would have come out.

I just came from the WeHo pride festival and it was depressing. Could not make any connections. But that was always the way.

R366 = R351

R366 I know what you mean about feeling "cheated" because of the AIDS epidemic. I was a senior in college when the AIDS epidemic was really heating up. While my early 20s should've been my prime time to "sow my oats," I instead had to become chaste, which is difficult to do when your hormones are raging. For years, I was afraid to do anything with anyone.

On the other hand, looking back, I'm grateful AIDS hit it when it did. Had I been just a few years older, I might have been more reckless and I might not be alive today.

I cannot drink alcohol without paying for it dearly the next day.

I wake up in the night to pee.

Hair in odd places.

I wake up early and go to bed early...and prefer it that way.

Yeast infections with discharge that looks like turkey giblets in gravy!

R370 = Lindsay Graham.

R368, I agree. Timing is everything. Same here with the oats.

AIDS wasn't the only thing that got me stuck; I also lost my dad at an early age.

No, not having a dad doesn't make you gay. But it certainly complicates things. I wasn't looking for a partner.

I was looking for a father.

Vertigo.Made worse by caffeine that I just cannot give up.

One more thing: when I get sick, it takes forever to get better.

Who misses spicy food?

I’m turning 59 this year and have always been fit and active but recently joined a gym and started working out with a trainer to focus on strength training and improved flexibility. I figure it’s now or never.

I’ve noticed it’s harder to get up off the floor or ground. This past winter I was very sore after skiing. I took a hot bath with Epsom salts and scared myself when I had trouble getting out of the bathtub. I had to turn over and go from kneeling to standing.

I also now sleep in pajamas or underwear in case I have to call 911 or die in my sleep and don’t want to be found naked. This never crossed my mind until I ended a LTR and am now on my own.

R376, a little yoga might help. You’re far too young to have those symptoms, you sound like me - 72 years old and have been sedentary while recovering from a badly sprained ankle. In a month I’ll be moving again.

When I’m sitting at my desk at work and I have to urinate, it’s as slow as molasses. However, whenever I’m home, laying on the couch or in bed and I have to pee, I go with no problem, no drama whatsoever. Plus, I think I posted this somewhere already but I don’t remember 🥴🥴🥴

Low back pain from less than moderate exercise. Yard work, for example.

I’m 77 and suffer from many of the conditions mentioned in this thread. But there is one thing that gives me hope: I FEEL GREAT! My mind is clear and focused, I can walk easily and for a long distance, and I generally forget about any of the minor medical conditions that I have. I do take a lot of medication, but for the usual stuff.

When I go to the hospital for a test, I see folks my age or younger that look miserable. That’s when I’m truly grateful.

Not bragging, just incredibly lucky.

DL grammar hall monitors, help me out here... R378 typed, "whenever I’m home, laying on the couch or in bed..."

Isn't it "lying on the the couch"?

Shouldn't someone be hissing at the poster?

At this age, it's just too much work.

R96- I started getting floaters when I was only 28 years old.

Often the meds you have to take cause issues. I was somewhere for a couple of days and forgot a certain med. I decided not to take it a third day, because I felt much better, like a poison was leaving my system.

Almost 50. My alcohol tolerance is way down and I don’t really like the taste of it anymore.

It’s hard to lose weight. I used to run but now I have a knee that protests. So does my back. I walk but don’t enjoy it very much.

I also have sesamoiditis so the side of my foot swells. There is exactly one shoe brand and model that doesn’t make it worse when I exercise. Of course, it is expensive and falls apart at the drop of a hat.

I was in a deep depression this time last year. It’s better now. I should be depressed because I was laid off. But I’m so glad to have that job in the rear view. What a bunch of assholes.

Yes, R381, it should be "lying." "Lay, laid" is for when your putting something down: "I laid myself on the couch." "Lie, lay" is for when there's no direct object: "I lay on the couch."

So many datalounge queens here talking about Alcohol- I did not know there were SO many Alcoholics or former Alcoholics on the datalounge. I never understood the fascination with booze. I like to eat my calories not drink them. I never drink anything with calories. I only drink water.

Does anyone think yoga can help with flexibility and balance- I don't want to join a yoga class because it's always almost ALL woman who are very flexible compared to men. Someone in my office said there are a lot of online videos on YouTube I can do at home. I guess I just have to start researching and viewing some of these videos.

R388, I watch and then follow thru with simple exercises with a guy on You tube. 'We Shape' it's called. Easy to do at home not muscle building, just loads of stretches and strengthening tips. Great for back, hips, arse etc. as we age!

Easier: If you can use the word "put", it's lay, otherwise lie.

R387, your personality must be off putting to people in your life. You might want to work on that.

I have bone spurs in my foot. Apparently, it happens with age and activity. I'll be walking along and then, boom/ouch. I have to wear an ankle brace and take MethylPrednisolone. This is not cool. I'm GenX, damnit - haven't we suffered enough?

I have something odd happening to me. When I masturbate, I often lose my erection. But the reason why seems less physical and more psychological.

Men are very visual and physical when it comes to masturbation. So I usually look at an image or video. But for the past few years, when I masturbate, I’ve noticed I’m restless in choosing my sexual fantasy focus. Flipping from this video to this image, then on and on, looking for just the right thing. It goes on so long, I get desensitized.

I never did that before I got older. Now I do it all the time, even when I vow I won’t. Why?

R387 = DJT

R389- Thanks, I will look into those videos.

R357- Hairless legs and Flat ass?

You sound HOT 🥵!

[quote] I get desensitized

R393 You hit it on the head, so to speak. As men get older, testosterone levels decrease and along with it, libido may also decrease. It can take more and more stimulation of the receptors in the brain and elsewhere that signal sexual arousal and erection. Hence the search for more stimulation.

I learned all this while being treated for prostate cancer. I took a new, highly effective testosterone suppressant. I had essentially no testosterone for 6 months. I couldn’t even begin to generate sexual arousal, no matter what. I’ve been off the med for two months, have a normal level of testosterone again, but I can just barely achieve sexual arousal again. My oncologists say it will get better with time. Perhaps the neural circuits take longer to recover than the testosterone level.

R88 There are also a lot of Chair Yoga and Yoga for Seniors videos online. You can google easy beginner Yoga and come up with a good selection.

R397, I'm just coming out of libido loss 15 months post hormone shot for my prostate cancer. It does come back, but slowly. I'm 70 if that makes a difference.

R399. Thanks, that’s helpful to know. I’m the same age as you.

It’s astonishing to me how long it takes for the neurological system to adjust. The immune system responds so much faster, but then again, it’s sometimes a matter of life or death how fast the immune system responds to an infection.

You find you need to develop nightly before sleep routines like dimming lights and avoiding blue light (cell phones, computers) and establishing ma regular bedtime to obtain good regular sleep.

You have a laundry list of things to do or refrain from doing to improve or maintain your bone density, musculature, heart health and cholesterol level, blood sugar, digestive health, elimination, vision, teeth, posture, skin tone, etc.

Poops were solid and clean in olden times. Now they are so sticky it takes half a roll of tp to wipe them clean. Yikes.

Unscented baby wipes

R403- Start eating a high fiber diet. Eat salads most days and a variety of fruit. I had a wide variety of fruit for breakfast this morning and for lunch I'm having a large salad with two veggie burgers on corn tortillas with vegenaise.

Doensn't work R405

[quote]How all your body fat migrates to your lower abdomen.

That's not how it works. What's really happening is the subcutaneous body fat, (the layer under your skin) gets thinner and thinner as you age. The belly fat comes from over eating, lack of exercise and the main location for storage when your body stores extra fat. But wait it gets worse, it's not a layer under your skin as much as it gets store internally (Visceral fat) where your organs are which is actually more dangerous.

The fat is not actually migrating from other parts of your body.

Forget all that fruit shit and just drink much more WATER

Constant ringing in the ears, AKA Tinnitus.

So true r391. R387 sounds smug and insufferable. His addiction is smelling his own farts.💨

The only time r387 ever drank was when he had a glass of sherry with Mother while they watched their "stories" together.

R411- My mother NEVER watched the Soap Operas. My grandmother on the other hand LOVED her stories especially Days Of Our Lives.

^ needs a drink

Not being able to metabolize coffee or alcohol very well. No biggy, either one, for me. But both happened virtually overnight and it took me a while to figure it out.

Inability to sleep much more than 4 hours a night. Cannot shut off an over-active mind.

You probably need some ambient noise machine to help calm your mind, such as white noise, or calming natural sounds like rain or nature. Also a sleep mask might help.

R415, turn on Buzzer or the Game Show Network at night. That’ll put you to sleep in 5 minutes.

Your balls hanging so low. Like, into the toilet water.

R415, you need to visit your local dispensary and get some low strength Gummies. 5 milligrams of THC is a standard. They take about an hour to kick in. Really help get deep sleep if you are like me where you cant shut off your mind. I swear, the last time I was in that place, all 4 or 5 customers were about my age all looking for a solution to get a good nights sleep.

I would venture to say the younger people who work there probably assume anyone over 50 is there for the sleep issues. And unless you are a hard core pot head or smoker, eatables like gummies wont give you lung cancer.

Lower back pain.

More than two drinks sipped very slowly and tempered with tons of water gives me a hangover that rivals anything I experienced in college. Not to mention the need to pee multiple times in the night. I think I've had one cocktail since New Year's Eve.

I have an inability to digest anything fried.

Random aches, twinges, and pains from "sleeping wrong."

For the most part, I quit drinking about ten years ago. I’ll drink the toast at a wedding or a dinner, otherwise the only time I drink now is on cruises and before, that meant about ten or twelve drinks a day starting at breakfast. Now two and maybe wine with dinner is all I can manage and function the next day.

Never had a hangover. Will keep drinking!

So many alcoholics on this thread. And before you call me an uptight church lady, let me tall you I have been drinking socially since I was 14. I don't get the obsession with it. I can go months without a drink but if I am at a party I certainly do more than a glass of wine. Moderation in my youth seems to have paid off, I can still drink without major health regrets the next day.

Actually, it's people who can't even handle a couple of drinks anymore, for the most part. Not raging alcoholics.

Yeah, I think there are one or two people commenting who think that anyone who drinks moderately is an alcoholic.

5 drinks a day starting in the morning as someone posted above is NOT moderate alcohol consumption. And those are the ones bitching they cant have more than 2 or 3 now.

Well fuck them, I’m not stopping drinking all the while my body can handle it and I enjoy it. I stopped smoking decades ago, eat a fairly healthy diet, exercise, don’t smoke weed, but I look forward to my Rioja and Bordeaux at the weekend. Too many people on here think that everyone who enjoys a drink is an alcoholic.

Too many alcoholics dont understand "A Drink" means one or two not a dozen. Drink yourself if you want, I don't care, but stop pretending that half a dozen cocktails or glasses of wine EVERY DAY is just "a drink" now and then. You're an alcoholic Dear, look it up.

And for the record, I do drink, have a full height bar in my entry you would probably be envious of.

R429, I am certainly not envious of the full height bar you have in your entry. What an odd place for a bar, and odd sentiment that anyone would be envious of it.

There are posters who said they only have a couple drinks. Can you read?

I can just picture R429 standing at her full height bar every night at 5:00, waiting for the people she texted to come over for happy hour who never show up.