ANOTHER fatal plane crash: 6 dead including family of doctors, former NCAA athlete of the year

Jared Groff was cute.

Two hot bros — basketball and lacrosse — killed in their prime.

A lax bro from MIT, no less.

Why, God, why?

Isn't this all because of that moron Trump's government redundancy cuts? Weren't a lot of FAA officials fired? That idiot's tiny little orange hands will be forever stained red with blood like Lady Macbeth's.

Planes are falling from the skies left and right. Maybe Air Force One will be next.

WTF!! This is insane.

Why do you have to take such hot snatch!

Dr. Groff was reported to be an experienced pilot, but I’m curious how much time he had in this particular aircraft. The MU-2 is notorious for being an unstable, challenging aircraft to fly.

The Catskills is not that far from Westchester. They could have been there in two hours by car. These small planes are too dangerous.

Who loads their entire family and fiancés into a small plane?

For a flight from White Plains to Hudson?

That's a (very pleasant) two-hour drive.

I've flown from NYC to Toronto and Rochester, but that's knocking down an eight-hour drive and five-hour drive, respectively, to 90 minutes or an hour in the air.

Flying from Westchester to immediately Westchester-adjacent makes no sense.

Completely agree r11. If they just took a few cars and had some good conversation, they'd be alive right now.

And they could pack snacks!

The boys were yummy.

Less than 2 hours.. per google, 1:39. Driving surely would take less time than it took to fly, if you include driving to airport, flight paperwork on both ends, etc...

Whelp—there’s a very happy person on the waitlist of HLS. They got in!

Jared Goff?! Oh my…never mind.

R10, are you sure about that?!

R8 from Wikipedia:

[quote] In the United States, the MU-2 had a spotty safety record during its early decades, as its high performance coupled with a relatively low purchase price appealed to amateur pilots who did not appreciate how demanding it is to fly compared to slower piston engined aircraft.[18] The MU-2 has performance similar to a small jet; however, as it weighs less than 12,500 pounds (5,700 kg), under U.S. pilot certification rules in force at the time, a pilot holding a multi-engine rating for much slower light twin piston-engine aircraft was allowed to fly the MU-2 with only a simple flight instructor endorsement. Inexperience with the MU-2's higher speeds, altitudes, and climb and descent rates resulted in many crashes. In Europe, pilots were required to obtain a specific type rating to fly the MU-2, resulting in roughly half the accident rate of early operations in the U.S.[4]

I am wondering if they maybe had plans to use the plane for a longer flight once they were in the Catskills, which is why he wanted to bring it along. Or maybe he wanted to do some work on it while there?

Small planes have a pretty awful safety record. They’re not crashing at a higher than usual rate. The media is just reporting on them more.

How many times are the pilots said to be experienced and then boom, right down the drain! It's almost always pilot error even the big planes, but these small ones are definitely killers. Think about it, how many small planes crash into houses, roads etc, it could be anybody's house too, no one is really safe.

Was it a DEI pilot?

Was it a rescue pilot?

[quote] Was it a rescue pilot?

Apparently not.

what is that plane allowed in the air if all it does is crash.

All these plane crashes that have happened this year so far. Are any of the victims in any way related to anyone who has wronged or attempted to prosecute Trump in the last 4 years or so?

I’m so excited! Thanks to the new and continuing series of Trump caused plane crashes Canadian produced “Mayday Air Disaster” is back in production with a proposed spin-off furthering air-crash investigations! Finally something to look forward to!

Thats not funny.

Are small plane crashes more frequent than in the past? I am skeptical. This seems more like a "trend" that people are trying to create.

This sounds wholly like pilot error, not having anything to do with the other air traffic bullshit going on right now.

Ahem.

What do you think NTSB is going to say - it's been confiscated by Trump & friends.

I do like that Air Disaster program. It’s very informative and they've replaced the actual air traffic controllers and flight crew with very attractive actors so you couldn’t ask for anything better.