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Supreme Court unanimously orders Trump administration to “facilitate “ the return of man mistakenly deported to El Salvador

Trump had claimed the courts could do nothing since the conduct of international diplomacy is entirely within the discretion of the President and because courts had no jurisdiction once a prisoner was outside of the US

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by Anonymousreply 51August 25, 2025 2:51 PM

It takes some pretty egregious lawlessness to earn a unanimous rebuke from this Court.

by Anonymousreply 1April 10, 2025 11:21 PM

Well, that was crystal-fucking-clear.

And people used to ask me why I didn't go to law school.

by Anonymousreply 2April 10, 2025 11:24 PM

Unanimous? Wow. I hope it lays a path for the other innocents who got caught up in this.

And the Justice Department just dropped its case against the supposed MS-13 gang leader who the arrested with much fanfare not too long ago.

by Anonymousreply 3April 10, 2025 11:27 PM

Its costs them nothing to make a little show of having a moral compass and yada yada.

by Anonymousreply 4April 10, 2025 11:35 PM

What will they do when he disregards their verdict?

by Anonymousreply 5April 10, 2025 11:37 PM

I hope he sues for every penny he can.

by Anonymousreply 6April 10, 2025 11:38 PM

If he's still alive

by Anonymousreply 7April 10, 2025 11:40 PM

Trump won't disregard the order but I can see on his gestapo douchebags doing so.

by Anonymousreply 8April 10, 2025 11:46 PM

Note that the Court let stand the judge’s order to “facilitate” the release while declining to endorse the order to “effectuate” the release and saying only that the government should be prepared to “share what it can” about the steps it has taken. This is a potential loophole for Trump to say “We tried, but failed” and that’s all we can say on grounds of national security or the need for diplomatic secrecy. Too deferential under the circumstances.

by Anonymousreply 9April 11, 2025 12:28 AM

The SC didn’t order the return. It let stand the district court’s order to facilitate and maybe effectuate the return. Words matter. There was no rebuke. It was a finding that the judge’s order to facilitate was proper. Sotomayor in her statement made criticisms, but there is no criticism of anything in the court’s order.

The SC is right to question the district court’s use of “effectuate”. The court can’t force the U.S. military to invade El Salvador to capture the deportee or force the U.S. to try to make El Salvador do anything. The whole thing will be moot if El Salvador just refuses to let the deportee leave the country.

by Anonymousreply 10April 11, 2025 1:40 AM

Didn't they tell Trump a President could do anything he wanted with no repercussions?

by Anonymousreply 11April 11, 2025 1:44 AM

I think Trump will not ignore but will slow walk this order

by Anonymousreply 12April 11, 2025 1:46 AM

It's not even boldly-worded but Dump and his band of morons will likely take offense.

by Anonymousreply 13April 11, 2025 1:47 AM

And when he refuses…..?

by Anonymousreply 14April 11, 2025 3:09 AM

Given the ridiculously harsh conditions at CECOT, it's ENTIRELY possible that this innocent guy is already dead. "Here's your body".

by Anonymousreply 15April 11, 2025 6:03 AM

Tonight thank God it's them- instead of youuuu

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by Anonymousreply 16April 11, 2025 8:13 AM

So once it's established that the US had no right to treat this guy as a criminal because he wasn't one, couldn't it be argued in Salvadoran courts that they have no right to hold this guy as the country in question (US) never formally charged him with anything. So maybe the guy can't leave El Salvador, but they can't hold him in prison either. I agree - the Dump DOJ won't do shit - but couldn't it be argued at the local level?

by Anonymousreply 17April 11, 2025 9:55 AM

[quote] There was no rebuke.

The unanimous vote is a rebuke. They are tossing Trump a bone in being deferential because there is a serious risk that Trump will ultimately defy the Court and cause a Constitutional crisis that destroys the rule of law. I think they are doing what they can to minimize the risk by giving him a means to declare victory (which he actually did) and avoiding provocation.

by Anonymousreply 18April 11, 2025 12:49 PM

The risk is that the Salvadoran authorities will assert their own charges against him and refuse to release him. Remember, he was granted asylum from El Salvador out of fear of persecution.

The district court will likely inquire into the terms of the agreement between the government and the Salvadoran government. It SHOULD have made clear that the US government has the right to release anyone they sent there, but the assholes may not have thought to include that because release was not a concern. Even if it does include such a provision, the Salvadorans would likely still have the right to hold anyone facing charges in El Salvador.

by Anonymousreply 19April 11, 2025 1:05 PM

Bukele will invent a reason why the "facilitation" won't happen.

by Anonymousreply 20April 11, 2025 1:08 PM

He’ll probably do whatever Trump wants, which may be another reason why the Court handled Trump gingerly.

by Anonymousreply 21April 11, 2025 1:14 PM

What about all the other men who are being held without due process? It’s crazy they can’t do a class action and have to pursue each individual as a separate case.

Not to mention a waste of the court’s time.

by Anonymousreply 22April 11, 2025 3:22 PM

The Venezuelans arrested under the Alien Enemies have a class action case pending. That was the subject of a previous 9-0 decision against Trump.

This man was arrested under a different law. Hence a different case.

by Anonymousreply 23April 11, 2025 3:38 PM

Trump says “fuck you” to the court. Says it needs four days to tell judge what they are going to do while an innocent man rots in jail.

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by Anonymousreply 24April 11, 2025 4:37 PM

They need the four days to Epstein him.

by Anonymousreply 25April 11, 2025 6:32 PM

At hearing, government’s lawyer says he does not know where Abrego Garcia is now. He is “not prepared to share” what steps the government has taken to facilitate his release and cannot say whether any steps have been taken.

Judge denies his request to file briefs next week and says she wants daily reports starting tomorrow. “There are no business hours in this court”

by Anonymousreply 26April 11, 2025 7:05 PM

So, what’s the legal remedy?

by Anonymousreply 27April 11, 2025 7:11 PM

The judge could charge someone with contempt of court and Trump could pardon them.

by Anonymousreply 28April 11, 2025 7:18 PM

Is this the gay barber?

by Anonymousreply 29April 11, 2025 7:29 PM

No. He’s one of the Venezuelans.

by Anonymousreply 30April 11, 2025 7:30 PM

Ultimately, if Trump decides to disobey the courts, there isn’t much they can do about it. He should be impeached, but he won’t be. We’d have to wait for the next election and hope the Democrats win enough seats to remove him. Then we’d have JD.

Meanwhile, people would need to take to the streets and pressure Congress to force Trump to get the man released.

by Anonymousreply 31April 11, 2025 7:34 PM

[quote] He’s one of the Venezuelans.

Garcia is Salvadoran, a citizen of El Salvador. He entered the U.S. illegally in 2011. In 2019, an immigration judge denied Garcia’s asylum request. However, the judge did a protection order that only forbid the government from deporting him specifically to El Salvador. News reports deliberately don’t mention that Garcia is deportable, just not to El Salvador. They also deliberately make it seem like the “administrative error” was deporting him at all. The administrative error was sending him to El Salvador instead of some other country.

by Anonymousreply 32April 11, 2025 7:42 PM

Setting aside the HORRENDOUS implications if this were to happen, doesn't some small part of you hope that cheeto and his administration essentially tells the Supreme Court - nah, were good.

It would make a few of them shit their black robes if they suddenly realized they are on borrowed time if they continue to rule as they have done to support this administration.

by Anonymousreply 33April 11, 2025 7:47 PM

He's dead or already so badly beaten up during his short time there they don't want him sharing that to the press. I think they'd accept losing this one case for the sake of their bigger project otherwise.

by Anonymousreply 34April 11, 2025 7:55 PM

[quote] Garcia is Salvadoran,

The question was “is he the gay barber?”

by Anonymousreply 35April 11, 2025 9:34 PM

Yes r33. There will be a certain schadenfreude when the Supreme Court realizes it destroyed itself by empowering Trump.

by Anonymousreply 36April 11, 2025 9:35 PM

and trump says, Nope.

by Anonymousreply 37April 14, 2025 8:42 PM

r37 Of course - and no one will do a gd thing about it, sadly. Everyone around him is obviously scared of him.

by Anonymousreply 38April 14, 2025 8:44 PM

Geez - it's no wonder Putin has stayed in power for so long when an imbecile like cheeto is able to pull this kind of crap in a country that is supposed to uphold the rule of law.

by Anonymousreply 39April 15, 2025 7:12 PM

The secret is to ask the question Trump always asks. Not “what is the law?” But “what are they going to do about it if I disobey the law?”

SCOTUS foolishly gave immunity to the President and now a habitual criminal has the power. And there’s really nothing the Court can do except write nasty screeds that he will ignore.

by Anonymousreply 40April 16, 2025 1:26 PM

[quote] the judge did a protection order that only forbid the government from deporting him specifically to El Salvador.

I am assuming that was because the judge believed that Garcia was in danger in El Salvador, but isn't being in danger in your home country grounds for granting asylum?

by Anonymousreply 41April 19, 2025 9:42 PM

[quote]Supreme Court unanimously orders Trump administration to “facilitate “ the return of man mistakenly deported to El Salvador

Or what?

by Anonymousreply 42April 20, 2025 1:36 AM
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by Anonymousreply 43August 25, 2025 1:24 PM

Lesson learned I hope. If you are in the US illegally, you should gather your family and find another country to call home. Do not wait. If left to ICE, you might be separated and sent to separate countries. If you want to stay together, leave together voluntarily and with agency.

by Anonymousreply 44August 25, 2025 1:35 PM

Oh do fuck off, r44.

by Anonymousreply 45August 25, 2025 1:37 PM

R45 How am I wrong? Pur ideology aside and look at the facts and the current power structure. Seriously, how is that not better to keep families together. This is no drill and families are being torn apart. What is your solution, pray tell?

by Anonymousreply 46August 25, 2025 1:45 PM

I got curious about the truth on this person. As expected… it’s somewhere between “wholly innocent family man now being destroyed sacrificially on the public stage for Trump” and “vicious and violent active MS13 gangster.”

There is zero credible evidence for the latter. No MS13, etc.

However, it appears highly likely he was active in migrant-smuggling / human trafficking operations as of 2022. Google his name and Tennessee and 2022 for the details. He had 8 undocumented migrants packed in his truck and they had little to no personal possessions with them. Further, the truck was previously owned by his boss who was convicted of human trafficking / migrant smuggling operations.

So it’s complicated but this one man does have a problem past. There are numerous others seized who have much cleaner records and equally heartbreaking stories of their family being ripped apart.

by Anonymousreply 47August 25, 2025 2:01 PM

Now Trump wants to deport him to Uganda.

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by Anonymousreply 48August 25, 2025 2:17 PM

This is such bullshit. The administration knows fully well it got this case completely wrong but it desperately digging in further and further

by Anonymousreply 49August 25, 2025 2:47 PM

[Quote] He had 8 undocumented migrants packed in his truck and they had little to no personal possessions with them.

They, in fact, did NOT know the immigration status of the men her was transporting. The fact that they had no personal possessions seems more in line with the fact that they were workers he was transporting home. In fact, the cops who stopped him suspected nothing weird and let him go.

Knowing that the government can just make up such charges and try to convict someone, doesn’t convince me that his boss was truly human trafficking

by Anonymousreply 50August 25, 2025 2:51 PM

R47, the only "evidence" he was involved in smuggling comes from dishonest informants who were given lenient treatment to testify against him. Kind of like how Trump transferred Ghislaine Maxwell to a cushy prison in exchange for saying Trump is a wonderful guy

by Anonymousreply 51August 25, 2025 2:51 PM
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