Son of ‘Snow White’ producer Marc Platt unleashes on Rachel Zegler in an Instagram comment

Everyone knew what she was like when she was cast, so this is Marc's fault to begin with

But aww daddy had to leave his family to do his job, boo-fucking-hoo.

I told Dad to cast Beanie as Snow White.

The son wrote it in response to a specific verbal attack against his father. He didn’t just randomly bring it up.

The fundamental mistake happened before Ziegler was cast.

That is, deciding to remake Snow White.

And before anybody comes for, I’m not letting Ziegler off the hook. I

I agree with what this guy posted.

I actually give credit to any 20 year old who has the strength of character to still uphold their support after essentially being corporately Court marshalled into doing the opposite. Respect

Superstar Ben Platt?

The film was a ticking time bomb. Her comments certainly didn't help and I find it hard to imagine any studio willing to put up with her going forward.

He couldn’t have called her instead of flying across the country?

[quote] He couldn’t have called her instead of flying across the country?

It was unfortunately necessary to impress upon the cunt the seriousness of her actions.

Of course this shit was gna flop. The bitch was talking shit about it a year ago. Gen Z was raised in neurosis so they think that this behavior is kosher. Why the fuck would u bash a multi billion dollar film, you are spearheading and selected for looks and charisma. Bitch if you was that mafuckin principled, you would have declined the role. But this generation wears hypocrisy like a badge of honor.

Geez, let's hope that karma balanced things out and gave Ben all the talent in the family...

[QUOTE]corporately Court marshalled into doing the opposite.

Oh, dear. And you probably don't know why.

Ziegler’s performance seems to be the only thing critics liked about the movie. If anyone should be blamed for this disaster, it’s the producer.

I disagree with you, R13. Ziegler has been trashing the movie and being obnoxious for months. I would never want to see this movie or anything that Ziegler was in. She seems dense, entitled and annoying.

Ziegler put out this energy before the film came out. Why would the producer be blamed? Ziegler promoted herself as an unlikeable and ignorant being.

[quote]Ziegler’s performance seems to be the only thing critics liked about the movie. If anyone should be blamed for this disaster, it’s the producer.

Exactly. Being difficult, hard to work with, and constantly saying crap about movies you've been in shouldn't stop you from being cast in more movies.

The timeline I read was he ordered her to remove her X post "Free Palestine". How does that have anything to do with the movie?

The only 'crap' she said about the movie, long before itsrelease, was that the movie is more modern and updated . Kind of an endorsement if you ask me.

Jonah is certainly better looking than his brother.

She also doesn’t look like Snow White. At all. There is that.

R18 = Noah Galvin

R18 wow can't believe they're related. Ben has a face for non-functioning transistor radio.

R20 😂 right. Or either a paid troll or Jonah himself. His brother is a fucking 9, and would have his hole wrecked. His brother is naturally good looking.

imagine thinking this was why the movie failed. No, it failed because it sucked

“His employee.” Go fuck yourself, kid.

R23, it wasn’t even a movie, it was, according to Platt, an “enormous piece of Disney IP.” That sounds like a fun evening. Who doesn’t want to watch “an enormous piece of Disney IP”?

That’s literally what it is r25. Snow White is that.

The Platt Brothers sing: Henry, Jonah, and Ben.

Um, aren't the Platts ... you know, Jewish?

Movies stand on their own.

If it were a great movie, it would have been a big hit. Apparently Ziegler is the only good thing about it. You can’t blame her for the movie crashing

In what world is Ben Platt a “superstar”??

A single movie can be an entire industry which is why he called it IP. Think of licensing, likenesses, sequels, toys, clothing, books blah blah. Much bigger than this dizzy actress who just ruined her career.

Oddly, this is the family that welcomed Noah Galvin into its fold.

R29 that’s bullshit and even you know it.

Snow White has been an IP since 1939 dear….

Do kids today even care about Snow White as “valuable IP”? It’s old, kind of dark & problematic, and not a story like Cinderella that’s been redone so many times that kids are more familiar with it. Disney probably should have just left this one in the past.

[quote] “His employee.” Go fuck yourself, kid.

She is an employee, R24. Or was. Little chance of that happening again.

She was hired to do a specific job. And there is no doubt she signed comprehensive contracts that involved her behavior both on and off camera in regard to this project. That’s just SOP.

She was little more than an employee and only more than that to the naive and starstruck who believe celebrities can do no wrong. That movies revolve only around them and their amazing efforts.

She wasn’t hired for her politics. She wasn’t hired for her cultural critique of a near-90-year-old film. She was hired to give a performance and be a proper ambassador for that film. And she failed.

You sound like a celebrity worshipper who looks at performers like deities, as if there were more than the very basic contractors they are.

That’s all they are. Work-for-hire performers. Commodities. It’s show “business.”

Our sick culture has sadly elevated them to be far more important than they actually are.

They are clowns. Court jesters. Amusing and entertaining at best but little more than that.

She was an employee. A very bad one.

And like any bad employee who becomes more trouble than they are worth, it then becomes time to show them the door.

As that now unemployable twat Rachel herself said, “It’s Hollywood, baby!”

Snow White is a classic Disney princess who has never gone away.

R26, R31, R34, I’m quite aware of what Snow White is. It was once a revolutionary film. It is now a device for cranking out lucrative tie-in deals and therefore obligated to provide the blandest movie going experience as possible.

R38 it is no different than any other Disney film. Only difference is this was THE FIRST

Would you like an ice cold Frosty and fries with that double with cheese?

I agree with him but his response was too long-winded. He should have said something like "She was an employee and her bad judgement was putting the entire project at risk. Her age and gender are irrelevant. Get fucked".

All of you claiming Snow White is old IP are correct. But this darker skinned unique version is new IP. New opportunities for broader licensing opportunities. Now little girls of all colors can dream of being Snow White instead of just Jasmine or Mulan.

To be honest, I think it's a crap idea to begin with for the exact same reason why I believe that James Bond cannot be a person of color, Or female. Or American, He is a white, Englishman. If you want to change a character that much, create a new one. But I digress,

R42 here. Apologies for my spastic punctuation above. I tried to post something without my readers on. This old bitch needs to go to sleep. Goodnight.

She’s hardly leaving a void that can’t be filled.

Can't they all get along, and go back to their mutual job of making musicals no one will ever want to see?

My question is, why the hell would Platt need to fly to New York to reprimand Zegler in person? Didn't he think he could have made his point clear through a phone call or Zoom or whatever?

When every movie you make takes 3 yrs to come out in order to distance itself from you, Miss Hitless needs to take note.

And learn how to float, bitch.

R46 If he had to fly to see her in person, it was probably because she was being difficult. Maybe Zooms weren’t working.

R14, I agree with you about Zegler, but you spelled her name wrong -- four times.

I doubt that your average American understands Middle East conflicts, or really knows much of a difference between the stances of Palestinians and Israelis. Certainly a performer being on one side or the other would barely register with most movie goers.

R11 no. All the brothers are very intelligent and talented men.

[quote]If he had to fly to see her in person, it was probably because she was being difficult. Maybe Zooms weren’t working.

What do you mean? Do you think he had already confronted her via Zoom or on the phone or whatever and it didn't work, so he thought he needed to fly to New York to confront her in person, and that would do the trick?

If I were the producer, I’d make sure any meeting with this crazy bitch was face to face with witnesses. Who knows what she’d do with a Zoom recording. Her disorder means she’s potentially dangerous.

Well, my goodness! She’s quite the little spitfire!

[quote]Three months later, following the presidential election, Zegler posted “Fuck Donald Trump” and “May Trump supporters … never know peace” on Instagram. Disney had had enough, given that the star was signaling to half the potential audience of an already troubled film plagued by costly reshoots to stay home.

Rachel is officially unemployable in Hollywood.

If daddy wants to cast Lord Farquaad as Snow White, then that's on him.

Send that bitch back to Broadway where she belongs.

Zegler can’t cunt her way out of a paper bag.

Oh, honey, the film was a pile of shit even without Zegler or Gal Gadot’s (who is one the worst thing to ever hit cinema) comments.

She went from nothing to A-list and from A-list to nothing in what must be record time.

R52, an in-person meeting indicates that she has seriously fucked up and that she needs to fix it. Also she may have been trying to avoid phone calls and/or video conferences.

R61 or that the producer was being entirely over the top. And she didn’t delete the post btw.

R55 Win a role first bitch.

I want someone to reprimand his dad for casting Ben in the DEH film just after Ben filled out his AARP paperwork. That’s one of the biggest casting fails of this century. I pretty much have zero use for that whole Platt-Feldstein collective of subtalent.

[quote] And she didn’t delete the post btw.

And now her career has been deleted.

Dying over here at the brother of Ben Platt telling someone that Narcissism isn’t something to be encouraged.

Yes, sweetie, we know that. Does your family?

[quote]Now little girls of all colors can dream of being Snow White instead of just Jasmine or Mulan.

Are there many girls of color wanting to be a princess with eyes practically on the side of her head?

[quote] Are there many girls of color wanting to be a princess with eyes practically on the side of her head?

Define color.

I support anyone who takes the time to drag this bitch for any reason. She is insufferable.

How does the very modestly talented Rachel Zegler get paid millions of dollars to be in a film?

Snow White is currently trending on IMDb at 1.6/10. I don't think a major release like this has EVER had a rating that low on that site. Obviously it has been rating-bombed by thousands of people who didn't see the film, but either way, it's BAD. Disney shit the bed on this film in more ways than one can count. It honestly probably shouldn't have even been released.

BREAKING NEWS: "Snow White" 2025 has received a nomination as "The Next Big Thing" by The Queerties!

She fucked with the producers, she's done. I'm sure everyone at the temple has been notified already that she is to receive NO more work going forward.

The metacritic score is 50 while the user score is 1.2/10. Obviously a ton of people who don't like her politics are dog-piling on the movie. Agreed that she seems like an asshole.

I just don't care. The live action movies flat out suck. I haven't seen a good one yet, not even Beauty And The Beast. I want this movie to fail so they will just stop making them.

[quote]The metacritic score is 50 while the user score is 1.2/10.

It seems evident from what they have written that some critics are giving the movie a higher rating that they should because they agree with her politics.

R46, people her age are too afraid to answer a phone. No. Really.

Except r2 the character would have been called Snow Plough.

This is so silly.

Firstly, Zegler has been outspoken and unapolgetic in her advocacy for Palestinians. And more power to her for it. There is an incredible amount of pressure on entertainers (even those enormously sympathetic to the plight of Palestinians) to remain silent. She's one of the few stars (along with Mark Ruffalo, Susan Sarandon, Cate Blanchett) to hold firm. And if you look at polling of Gen Zers and Millennials, you'll find she's aligned with the people of her generation.

As for the film's poor performance...

As others have pointed out, Zegler is one of the ONLY elements of the film that was generally well reviewed.

The same cannot be said of her costar Gal Gadot, whose success remains baffling. In fact, all you need to do is search Gal on TikTok and Instagram and Twitter right now to see endless memes about how bad an actress she has been her entire career. People still joke about her line readings in films like Wonder Woman and Death on the Nile.

Lastly, while Snow White is, of course, a classic, anyone who came of age when it was a newer film is either six feet under or living in a memory care facility. So... the likelihood of it having this built-in audience that was reared on the original animated film (like Lion King, Aladdin etc.) was going to be slimmer.

From the controversy over whether to use live action actors for the dwarfs, to the racists outraged that a (frankly, white-passing) Latina was playing Snow White, this film has had a bad aura over it for months and months. Only flawless execution and rave reviews were going to save it and THAT was not going to happen.

R32 points out an amusing irony

Noah Galvin famously did an interview for The Real O’Neals. I can’t remember what he said was controversial but you can look it up

Disney brought him into the office and from what I remember they put the fear of God in him. I want to say the actual quote was “they screamed and screamed.”

R28=Barbara Thorndyke

Make NO mistake, Jonah Platt is HOT. Ben is cute with the right haircut and beard.

Nobody needed this movie to be made.

What r61 said. In-person meetings are a common tactic used in many different businesses to confront an employee when they have seriously fucked up. It's standard operating procedure.

Disney is trying to scapegoat her for their own bad decisions. The idea that this film would've been a success without her social media stuff is idiotic.

And yes, one of those bad decisions that Disney and Marc Platt made was casting Zegler. It was perfectly obvious from the West Side Story promo period what she was like, and yet they decided to cast her. That's their fault, not hers.

She is actually very good in the role according to most reviews

The biggest failure was the casting of Gadot and the choice of director Marc Webb, which again are the producers’ fault

Not a big fan of Miss Zegler but anyone who hates Trump with passion and is against the genocide the Israelis are commiting in Gaza is fine in my book.

I have little sympathy for Marc Platt, the man who foisted his talentless rabbit-faced nepo baby son Ben upon the world.

This grassroots campaign from psycho wokesters who are fans of Rachel to shift this colossal failure from her twat mouth to Gal’s acting ability is pathetic.

Gal is no Stella Adler, but she’s a team player and has done her job as a proper ambassador for this film. Unlike that entitled cunt Zegler, whose desperation for attention - any attention - put a bullseye on this project from before the first frame was shot.

Gal is the one who needed extra security because Zegler’s political statements resulted in threats to Gal’s life. What performer, producer or creative would want to work with this bitch after this debacle?

There’s one other difference: Gal will continue to be a working actress. Rachel‘s film career is deader than “Snow White’s” box office.

She’s an unlikable, unprofessional piece of Cluster B shit. And now she’s box office poison.

Bye bitch 👋.

[quote]Obviously a ton of people who don't like her politics are dog-piling on the movie.

Is that really what's happening here? Or are people trying to nuke the movie because Disney silenced her opinions on Gaza?

They're in a no-win situation because the movie also features Gal Gadot, so they're getting those 1s from both sides of the terminally online political spectrum. It's kinda amazing, the way that strip of dirt half a world away manages to unite people as much as it divides. Thank fuck I'm out of that cult and just observing the whole thing with a vat of popcorn in my lap.

This movie would have been crap with or without her, but people forget that she has been digging her own grave for quite some time now.

Her big break was getting cast in West Side Story. She was invited to the Oscars but was NOT nominated. This was while she was filming Snow White. Production expected her to skip the Oscars, as is common for even A-list stars with noms who are in the middle of the shoot unless otherwise contractually negotiated. She threw a fit and essentially accused production of being racist and misogynist for not releasing her to go to the broadcast. Under public scrutiny (height of me too), they did let her go at an enormous cost since it halted production for days since they were filming far away.

She sealed her fate with this stunt. Almost everything she has released since then was already under contract, so she really hasn't been signed on for anything else.

She’s not an employee, r36. She’s a contractor. But my impatience with young Mr. Platt has nothing to with my sympathies for Miss Zegler (I have none) and everything to do with the fact that he has nothing to do with the situation and resorts to sticking his nose in with a “you work for my DAD” retort that makes him sound like a spoiled ten-year-old.

[quote] She’s not an employee, [R36]. She’s a contractor.

That’s semantic bullshit. Contractors are employees. You are hired and paid to perform a job for several months. That makes you an employee.

Contractors today have healthcare and other benefits just like FTEs depending on the scenario. And they are expected to follow the same rules as FTEs lest they wish to no longer be employed.

She wasn’t mowing the lawn for $50. She had a long/term commitment of significant scope that lasted years for this project.

Or did.

She will play Eva Perón in Evita directed by Jamie Lloyd jr this summer in London. So, she is doing pretty well.

Her film career is dead, R92.

And I’m sure her “Evita” run will be totally drama free and not at all controversial.

🙄

So DLers would rather take the side of the morally bankrupt company that has just recently turned its back on gays to cosy up to Trump rather than consider that maybe a film didn't flop because of some tweets?

R80 I remember that interview. It got his sitcom cancelled. He called Bryan Singer a pedophile, outed Garrett Clayton (without mentioning his name as Garrett was a Disney star and had a guest role on The Real O'Neals) and bitched about Eric Stonestreet being straight and playing a gay character on Modern Family.

It did not get his sitcom cancelled at all, in fact they got a second series after the interview.

R94 I don’t care about Disney but even I can see that Rachel is a PR nightmare. She’s chronically online and explosive. She reacts before thinking things through. You don’t want that as a lead actress. Look at how Halle handled the backlash from her casting as Ariel. She was gracious and people went out in force to support her. Rachel comes across as entitled and extremely aggravating.

She needs to focus on her West End debut and leave this behind her. Maybe in a few years she can make a comeback à la JLow.

[quote] So DLers would rather take the side of the morally bankrupt company that has just recently turned its back on gays to cosy up to Trump rather than consider that maybe a film didn't flop because of some tweets?

This zero sum game is why the world is in the dire situation it is today.

Disney can be an evil company and Rachel Zegler can be an insufferable, narcissistic twat whose thirst for any attention and destructive comments led to a huge film flopping.

Both of these things can be true at the same time.

“Take the side.” What bullshit.

Grow up.

r97 And that was all the case before Disney hired her. So whose fault is it?

r98 And yet in your 12 posts in this thread, you've only knocked her, not Disney. She didn't cast herself in the role. And if you genuinely think this film would've been a hit if not for her social media, you're a moron.

Wouldn't be surprised if she were a covert MAGA psyop type asset backed by Trump and DeSantis in order to undermine Disney.

R99 You know they hired her before WSS was even done filming? She was recommended by Steven Spielberg (bless him). No one knew she would be a nightmare.

r101 Oh please, DLers were bitching about her attitude on social media before WSS was even released. But even if you're that desperate to excuse Disney - from Variety:

[quote]Months later at D23, she criticized the original 1937 “Snow White,” noting that the prince “literally stalks” the heroine. One top agent says that was the moment that Disney allowed Zegler to control the narrative: “The first time she shoots her mouth off, you nip it in the bud.” Instead, the studio said nothing, and purists began to revolt. And as time went on, Disney became increasingly loath to weigh in on anyone’s speech considering that the studio was sued in 2024 by actress Gina Carano, who claims she was fired from “The Mandalorian” for voicing her opinions on hot-button issues.

This is 100% the fault of Platt and Disney. She was their choice

Zegler has a terrible mouth. She hurt WSS ticket sales, too. I'm convinced of that.

The movie must really suck for all this rock throwing to be happening.

This was a bomb from its' inception and this dumb girl stepped right in to be the reason for it.

Before any of this there was the PC bullshit about the dwarfs. And then it continued to implode.

Disney owes Rachel a muffin basket for causing a distraction. She has managed to redirect attention from the studios' multiple failures on this one.

[quote] [R98] And yet in your 12 posts in this thread, you've only knocked her, not Disney. She didn't cast herself in the role. And if you genuinely think this film would've been a hit if not for her social media, you're a moron

Disney didn’t call its crown jewel piece of animation “creepy” and “dated.” Disney didn’t claim the male lead’s scenes could all be deleted because “That’s Hollywood, baby!” Disney didn’t draw two-years worth of negative attention to a prestige project that snowballed into such a disaster that an entire Variety story was dedicated to what a destructive bitch she is. Disney didn’t dismissively refer to her costar as a “a professional pageant queen.” Disney didn’t stir her online minions into a frenzy that required them to pay for additional security for her costar.

That was all Rachel, the narcissistic twat.

Speaking of creepy, how fucking weird that you blocked me just so you could see what comments I’ve made and then unblocked me just to comment back to me. I’ve never cared enough to do that to anyone even though it’s well known that’s the only way to perform that.

Are you Rachel’s agent? A fired Disney employee?

Either way, I can see why you so stridently defend her as you’re just as disordered and fucked up as she is.

Fucking creep.

Remember when Jonah was on JEOPARDY and lost the first day? Hahahahaha.

Can someone list the things she's said/posted besides the dumb 'stalker' comment about the 1937 production?

Gal being ex IDF can’t have helped.

R102 So it’s Disney’s fault that Rachel is obnoxious on social media? Did they twist her arm into signing a 2M contract? Is it their fault she got into controversy after controversy online? When will you circle back and realize she is part of the problem?

Didn’t West Side Story bomb? Spielberg tried to be all woke by not putting subtitles saying that that would be offensive.

In fairness (and I never thought I'd say that about a Platt), at least Jonah went on regular Jeopardy!, not the celebrity version or some easier game show. Jeopardy! archive shows he got the most answers correct that day, but made some dumb mistakes, including a costly one on a DD. Mixing up Petrushka and Firebird is an almost unforgiveable error tho.

Did she say anything stupid about WSS?

The talk and press interviews before WSS opened was all very "woke", r110. I know some here hate that word, but it fits in some cases. They (not just Zegler) really went overboard with the focus on how much more diverse the new version was and how the original film was problematic. They decided to sell it as if the entire world was made up of Tumblr and pre-Elon era Twitter users.

Sorry but Jonah Platt has already ruined his life with having a child. Uno reverse karma card by Rachel?

I haven't been paying any attention to this story and reading all this I'm thinking that maybe Ms. Zegler really is a bit of a headache.

But some of the criticism of her here has a distinct misogyny vibe of always blaming the woman (R87/R105, I'm looking at you).

I wonder if Rachel can sue him for this comment or sue the Variety journalist.

A problem with generation z is that they do not listen. "Don't bite the hand that feeds you" or "If you do not have something to say, do not say anything" does not apply to them. They are a nightmare to work with.

R113 - I agree.

Going back and redoing or canceling pieces of culture because it doesn't fit today's standards can be offensive to a lot of people who grew up with it.

It's a GRIMM fairy tale - a German 18th century story.

If you don't like it - write a NEW unique storyline - not a revision trashing the old one.

Like most Grimm fairy tales - Snow White is a VERY dark piece of literature. Maybe just let it be and move on. And you have to know you're going to get pushback when Snow White's main characteristic is her ultra white skin - and you cast a Latina. On purpose. Yet you still call it Snow Whte.

C'mon.

R84 Could be. But she will suffer the consequences.

[quote] But some of the criticism of her here has a distinct misogyny vibe of always blaming the woman ([R87]/[R105], I'm looking at you).

You’re a tiresome and basic bitch, R115.

It’s not 2021 anymore. People aren’t immune from criticism due to their gender anymore and that insane “woke” mentality no longer flies.

She doesn’t get a pass for being a chronic, destructive cunt just because she’s female.

And bullshit you haven’t been following it. You felt compelled enough to comment, which means you give a shit.

What a phony fuck.

r45, People behave differently on zoom or on a call. An in person reprimand also carries how grave the situation is.

I wonder why Marc and Jonah Platt didn't accuse Ariana Grande and Erivo of immature behavior for their pro-Palestine statements? Daddy Platt merely responded with some Trumpy 'there's suffering on both sides blah blah blah but terrorists are the worst trying to destroy us and someday we'll have that conversation' bullshit.

Faintly amusing is Jonah calling out the unacceptable "coddling" of a 20 year old after he tweets that she single-handedly destroyed his dad's masterpiece with her politics. Talk about coddling....

[quote] They are a nightmare to work with.

Completely disagree with you R117 from real life experience.

[quote] It’s not 2021 anymore. People aren’t immune from criticism due to their gender anymore and that insane “woke” mentality no longer flies.

It’s funny, I was just saying yesterday that people on the “left” like you R120 have also picked up on the cultural swing to the right in the last couple of years. You’ve given a perfect example of it. You should also probably chill out a bit, there’s no reason to get so upset over a children’s film.

r105 You know what else Disney didn't do? They didn't nip it in the bud. You whine about two years of bad press - firstly, they should've dealt with that from the first time she opened her mouth. Secondly, the bad press was not just about Zegler but decisions Disney made themselves not even related to Zegler. Funny how you ignore that.

r109 She was obnoxious on social media from before she was cast. Disney had a chance to correct it early on and failed. That's on them.

You can't cast a raging douche and then be surprised you have to deal with a raging douche.

Rachel’s fans need to get that she’s annoying. That’s it. She’s the new Brie Larson. Jonah needs to get laid.

[quote] She will play Eva Perón in Evita directed by Jamie Lloyd jr this summer in London.

That was probably the best crisis management advice she could take, to flee the country and try to restart her career somewhere else,

R126 If I was her PR agent I would tell her to forget social media for at least 6 months.

Alright - so I had to sleuth a bit about what all the fuss is about.

1) With the release of the first SW trailer, she commented about how proud she was then she attached a tweet 1 min after - And always, remember Free Palestine. They asked her to remove it and she wouldn't. They didn't want the trailer to be embroiled in controversy. That tweet got more attention than the trailer.

2) After the post, Gal Gadot got death threats for being Israeli and they had to hire personal security for her. Rachel wouldn't remove it. It wasn't on her own social media - it was attached to the trailer. She was getting her co-star in trouble by association and she didn't care. And didn't care the producers wanted it removed. It's still there.

3) 3 months later she posts "Fuck the Orange Man" and "May Trump supporters know no peace". So that's half of America. And because of the above tweet she stayed home and they had to reshoot a lot of scenes, which increased the film's costs. The producer AGAIN visited her again flew out to her - and she wouldn't remove it. She said she's working with a social media guru (paid by Disney) and wouldn't stop. Much later she apologized - but damage was done.

4) Prior to this, she complained that Disney did not invite her to the Oscars for WWS - which was because she was already shooting SW in London under contract and it would cost days in lost shooting. Disney caved and got her a ticket to go.

5) She called the Prince in the original SW a 'stalker' multiple times. How was the Prince a stalker - at all? He came across her in the forest in the 1937 film and then took pity and kissed her to wake her up?

6) She called Gal Gadot a 'a professional pageant queen', which is a slam on her being an actress. That's her co-star. Gal did enter a Miss Universe pageant or similar and won Miss Isreal, I think - but she was never a professional beauty pageant woman.

She sounds like the Chapell Roan of Gen Z actresses. None of these comments were necessary and she's old enough to know better.

[quote] [R126] If I was her PR agent I would tell her to forget social media for at least 6 months.

Good luck with that. She’s an addict. She wouldn’t even remove an inflammatory post that helped cost her film career.

For many of these mentally ill Gen Zers like Rachel, you might as well ask them to give up food or water.

You’re nobody unless you’re posting on social media. The cultural repercussions of this will be felt for decades.

[quote] The cultural repercussions of this will be felt for decades.

Huh, R129?

Rachel - I don't normally do this but we like your style and your spirit. You're gonna WIN THIS sistah!

I'd like you to invite you to eat at our lunch table.

[quote]The talk and press interviews before WSS opened was all very "woke", [R110]. I know some here hate that word, but it fits in some cases. They (not just Zegler) really went overboard with the focus on how much more diverse the new version was and how the original film was problematic.

Yes, and this included Rita Moreno lamenting how few actual Latino performers there were in the original movie -- a lament she voiced even in an interview when she was seated beside George Chakiris, her fellow Oscar winner for the original movie, who was certainly not Latino. The sad fact is that some people will say anything without thinking about it first, even actors in major interviews.

R132 - yes we all know but Holllywood is about $$ and getting asses in seats. The latino population was 3.5% of US total in 1960. Natalie Wood was on a roll and would drive interest.

Sometimes, not all the time, but sometimes it wasn't about racism whatsoever - it was about audience and making box office money. Living in NYC or LA at the time, you may not have thought the US population was only 3.5% - but it was.

NY and LA is not America, unfortunately. Look at gays and lesbians - how many gay or lesbian characters are there on actual TV shows? And most have been played by straight actors historically. Do you hear us bitching about that all the time?

R129 Why should she remove that post if Gal can stand with Israel without repercussions? You’re popping blood veins over this. Chill.

R128 funny you forgot to mention the death threats Rachel received! How remiss of you. Also Gals threats were not because of her being Israeli or because of Rachel’s pro Palestinian, they were because of her own pro Israel messages and her being ex IDF.

[quote] Look at gays and lesbians - how many gay or lesbian characters are there on actual TV shows? And most have been played by straight actors historically. Do you hear us bitching about that all the time?

R133 girl what rock have you been hiding under?

I have never seen this film, but I can confidently say everything about it horrible. And, more to the point, boring. I never want to hear about it again.

[quote]3 months later she posts "Fuck the Orange Man" and "May Trump supporters know no peace". So that's half of America

Except Trump supporters were never going to see this movie anyway. It's funny how so many people are trying to erase the massively racist response that casting Zegler led to. Which is, of course, mostly behind the cartoonishly OTT hatred for her on here. Not to mention Trumpers hate Disney, or did you somehow forget that?

R138 Anyway this is irrelevant. She is gonna get black listed like that Melissa girl from Scream.

I have a feeling the British tabloid are going to be pretty ruthless with her this summer.

Yeah because the tabloids are absolutely obsessed with what's going on in theatre.

r138, you are way off. A lot of Trump-voting families consume Disney content. And it's Zegler's mouth that led to the massive backlash.

r142 No it was her race that led to the backlash. Don't try and rewrite history.

I am amazed Jonah Platt got himself involved in all this, given how much his brother has suffered from charges of nepotism (Ben Platt is considered the absolutely quintessential "nepo baby"). What do the Platts gain by denouncing Rachel Zegler publicly when she's already being criticized so heavily in the press and seems to have been already blackballed by Hollywood? Instead of hurting her further, this just draws attention yet again to the fact that Marc Platt gets easy work in Hollywood for his sons.

It is a European tale. They could have readapted it. Why cast a non white actor and then try to justify it? Something is wrong with White people. Their inability to own up to their great culture, contributions to civilization, instead, they are letting useless leftists bully them into disowning their own great culture. And most of these leftist bullies are white with a savior complex. What are they saving non-white people from? I do not understand. But everywhere in the west, whites have been infected by a bad disease of the white savior complex. Being nondiscriminatory or supremacist is one thing, but bearing the burden for the ill-governed societies of the world is something else.

[quote] None of these comments were necessary and she's old enough to know better.

Tell that to Jonah crybaby.

R135 - you're fucking crazy.

Gal was forced to do conscripted service in the Israeli army as an Israeli citizen. If Disney said they had to get security for HER because of the comment and not for Rachel's supposed death threats, I tend to believe them.

You're so busy spinning everything to defend this young woman who does not give a FUCK about her actions or the studio.

It has nothing to do with theater, r141. They're drawn to controversial and divisive figures like a moth to flame, especially the "wokes." Plus, Evita is a highly political play. I can't imagine Ms. Zegler will resist commenting about it.

the only ones who seems to have a problem with this girl are americans. of course, as always, no wonder their country is in shambles. and who gives a shit if she is white or european? only americans do, because it is part if their racist culture.

R145 Snow White is a movie about White peoples great culture apparently.

When some people objected to the casting of the title character in the live action remake of THE LITTLE MERMAID, I thought that was ridiculous, because there's absolutely no reason why Ariel needs to be white or any other specific race or ethnicity. I mean, she's a mermaid! But Snow White is one of very few fairy tale characters -- maybe the only one? -- named for her complexion, so to object to a POC being cast in the role is NOT racist, it's a completely valid objection on artistic grounds. And for pity's sake, not every classic property needs to be remade with POC in the leads, especially not when Disney has (at least in recent decades) been giving us so many movies with POC very much front and center.

R151 They could make the next 20 movies with a POC lead and that would not compare to the hundred of years where white people have been front and center. It’s always “woe is me” with you lot.

r150 Snow White is a classic folk and fairy tale from Germany. And yes, folk tales are considered very important cultural aspects of any given society.

[quote]They could make the next 20 movies with a POC lead and that would not compare to the hundred of years where white people have been front and center. It’s always “woe is me” with you lot.

Well, they haven't been front and center in movies for hundreds of years, because there haven't been movies for hundreds of years. And anyway, that's not the point. Nearly all of the classic movies and theatrical plays and musicals, etc. were the products of white culture, so of course they were going to be cast accordingly. Plus there was the Catch 22 whereby, for example, since there were very few opportunities for POC in Hollywood, very few POC tried to make it in Hollywood. All of that has been changing in a huge, wonderful way over the past few decades, however belatedly, but it does not mean that every classic tale rooted in white European or American culture needs to be recast with POC.

P.S. How anything I wrote translates to "woe is me" is only perceivable by your own warped logic

[quote] But Snow White is one of very few fairy tale characters -- maybe the only one? -- named for her complexion, so to object to a POC being cast in the role is NOT racist, it's a completely valid objection on artistic grounds.

Nonsense. There are versions of the fairytale where skin color is not mentioned. Even the Grimm Bros tale doesn't explicitly say white SKIN--just white. It could mean purity. In one version the young girl has a star on her forehead. Her beauty is the issue. Evil stepmother isn't fulminating over her complexion.

[quote] Snow White is a classic folk and fairy tale from Germany.

So why have it in English in the first place R153 if you’re being sooooo considerate of its origins?

r156 If you're gonna play this game, then I'd say the English and the Germans are Germanic peoples. So, they can claim their common heritage. Happy, luv?

R154 At least, I am not crying about a Disney film having a Hispanic leading lady on the internet. That would be a time to reconsider where I am in life.

[quote] If Disney said they had to get security for HER because of the comment

Provide a source where Disney said that

R157 no because there is a significant distinction. And it’s an American production, not English. The only significant factor that you’re interested in is whiteness. Wonder why.

The funniest thing about this is that Rachel is white latina, she’s just not pale enough for a certain type of commenter.

[quote] [R151] They could make the next 20 movies with a POC lead and that would not compare to the hundred of years where white people have been front and center. It’s always “woe is me” with you lot.

“You lot?”

What a fucking lowlife hypocrite you are, R152. 😂

Fuck off.

r158 a hispanic with the last name Segler? besides ,hispanic is not a race my dear.

R162 it’s Zegler not Segler. And yes she is Hispanic. And nowhere did I say Hispanic was a race. I mentioned thay she is white, that is her race. Her being Hispanic gives context as to her ethnicity. Can you read?

[quote] Nonsense. There are versions of the fairytale where skin color is not mentioned. Even the Grimm Bros tale doesn't explicitly say white SKIN--just white. It could mean purity. In one version the young girl has a star on her forehead. Her beauty is the issue. Evil stepmother isn't fulminating over her complexion.

Obtuse much, you fucking degenerate lowlife?

Of course it refers to white skin. You can contort yourself all you want but anyone with a lick of sense knows exactly what it means.

The woke shit is dead. Take a Time Machine back to 2021 while the rest of us live in reality.

[quote]The funniest thing about this is that Rachel is white latina, she’s just not pale enough for a certain type of commenter.

She herself has been one of the people involved with the SNOW WHITE fiasco who have made a point that the name should no longer be perceived as referring to the title character's complexion, but rather -- I think this is what I read -- that she was born during a snowfall?

P.S. A quick check of the Wikpedia entry on Rachel Zegler reveals that her mother is of Colombian descent, while her father is of Polish descent -- hence the name.

R162 I also didn’t even use the word Hispanic I said Latina. Are you drunk?

(raises hand) Still queer over here.

twoja kariera się skończyła, suko

R162 my mistake I misread who u were responding to. Apologies x

This just in….

Meghan Platt, cousin of Ben Platt and avid consumer advocate is traveling by Amtrak to confront Rachel Zegler regarding her social posts as well as Heath Ledger’s role as the Joker.

The name is definitely German. German Polish? Rare after WWII.

Patricia Platt, second nephew removed of The Ben Platt simply sent a postcard with “SUCK SHIT” scrawled across the back.

Jason Baldoni called Disney and offered emergency PR services.

[quote] The woke shit is dead. Take a Time Machine back to 2021 while the rest of us live in reality.

By 'us' you mean the shrill voices in your head?

[quote]Obtuse much, you fucking degenerate lowlife?

Project much, you hysterical freak? Go listen to some Jordan Peterson tapes and make your bed.

I never thought I'd be agreeing with anyone from that putrid Platt family, but he's right.

[quote]Firstly, Zegler has been outspoken and unapolgetic in her advocacy for Palestinians. And more power to her for it. There is an incredible amount of pressure on entertainers (even those enormously sympathetic to the plight of Palestinians) to remain silent

Jesus Christ could you be any more full of shit? “Pressure to remain silent”? Oh, my sides ! It’s so popular to say you support Palestine it’s become a fucking trend. She’s been outspoken and unapologetic? By saying Free Palestine on X? How brave! I can tell she is well informed and aware of the complexities of this shit situation in the ME! Thank God for entitled 20 year old cunts like this Ziegler bitch for her brave activism! I just know for sure she’d be just as brave if her stance wasn’t the in thing among her age group. The courage it takes to go with the crowd. 🥲

When the producer of your film was texting agents trying to get them to fire clients for saying they supported Palestine, then yeah it was brave.

But here we go, it simultaneously caused the movie to flop while also being a total nothing tweet.

Fire clients? She was signed and paid. If you can’t use facts to support your argument then it’s a weak one.

r178 Reading comprehension isn't your best, is it? Try again a few times.

Fuck off terrorist simp.

And in conclusion:

“Snow White,” in other words, may be the latest in a long, generally uninspired, and cumulatively numbing line of Disney remakes. But the sheer breadth of pre-release ill will it’s accumulated, across such a broad swath of the political spectrum, feels almost impressive. By the time the film finally arrived in theatres this week, it had sprouted almost as many controversies as dwarfs—and, of course, the issue of dwarfs predictably triggered one of the movie’s very first representational dustups. In 2022, the actor Peter Dinklage, who has a form of dwarfism, expressed his annoyance that Disney was “still making that fucking backward story about seven dwarfs living in a cave.”

R181 - Peter Dinklage did do a lot of damage - but how do you divorce dwarves from the Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs story?

It's in the Grimm fairy tale - and they aren't evil - they are good!

7 dwarf actors could have had jobs - but noooooo. Peter Dinklage comes off as a pissed off dwarf with a chip on his shoulder 90% of the time.

People focus on the Free Palestine tweet but that wasn’t the real problem. The problem was everything else. And sure, Platt was being an asshole with his comment but that doesn’t matter. Rachel may have the entire internet on her side but the internet will not cast her on future jobs.

There is a time when you need to shut up and just take the money and keep quiet. We’ve all had terrible bosses or terrible coworkers. We’ve all been at a job that sucked and just had to suck it up. Rachel should have kept quiet.

R182, Dinklage pulled up the mini-step-stool after he got his.

R155 - provide links because you're talking BULLSHIT.

"How I wish that I had a daughter who had skin as white as snow, lips as red as blood and hair as black as ebony."

What the fuck other 'versions' are you talking about??

I haven't read all the responses but it seems to have caused a lot of controversy But the person to blame is Bob Iger. He runs the company and should have been checking in on what was going on with the movie. Every decision is ultimately his. It had to be filmed like 3 times and he kept oking everything. He had a star who couldn't keep her trap shut and the producer of the film had to fly out to see her? Iger couldn't pick up a phone? Disney is dying on the vine because of Iger. I'm not a Star Wars fan but everyone who is says he drove it into the ground. He spent 71 billion for Fox which has to be one of the great boondoggles of all time. Disney is a huge corporation but it keeps hemorrhaging billions because of this weatherman who is so enraptured with himself he just gave himself a $10 million raise and named the new Disney headquarters in Manhattan after himself.

Ironically the only thing this movie got good reviews for was Zegler's singing. People say everything else is terrible. And it all should be dumped on the head of this Ted Baxter wannabe.

[quote]Firstly, Zegler has been outspoken and unapolgetic in her advocacy for Palestinians.

Let's not try to normalize that.

Snow White Pitch Meeting

R185, the Brothers Grimm wrote versions of folk tales which had circulated in Germany and neighboring countries for many generations. It's understood that their written versions were not word for word transcriptions of a particular version of a story. Instead their stories combined different versions and added new elements.

In any event, the core of Snow White isn't about how great it is to have white skin; it's about a mother (usually euphemistically described as a stepmother) who wants to kill her daughter because she is jealous of her. (And, in at least one version, she wants to eat her liver and lungs to make sure that she's dead).

It's classic fairytale horror material, but the story has been filmed many, many times. You'd have to bring something really good to the story, you can't just go through the motions.

Zegler performed with Ben Platt during his Palace residency last year, which was after her infamous tweets. It makes you wonder about the family dynamics.

The weird ass dwarves were already enough to keep people away

R189 - that's like saying there were a lot of different versions of the Bible available so we need to discuss the unpublished chapters along with the canon we know today.

People don't know the other stories. They know a rough version of the Grimm story (which is much more gruesome) and the 1937 Disney film classic. Other 'versions' that people aren't aware of don't count in this discussion of the new Disney version of Snow White.

And yes, we're all aware that the color of her skin is not a plot point - but it IS why she's called Snow White.

Getting into a historical discussion about the fable's origins is really not germane to what we're talking about. And it's not going to be convincing or relevant to anyone, particularly Disney fans, who are enamored with the original.

[quote] Oh, I wouldn’t say the entire Internet.

Her skin is very pale...wtf are you on about, clown R192?

What killed this movie is the avalanche of idiotic wokeness coming at it from every direction.

1. Zegler bad mouthing the values of the original story.

2. The writers making all kinds of changes to make the story more "relevant" and "relatable" in 2025, therefore killing it. Ex.: "Jonathan" instead of a prince.

3. The kerfuffle about the dwarfs, which was started by Peter Dinklage who was very vocal about a movie that featured dwarves as dwarves being an insult.

4. The dwarves initially being replaced with normal size POC, then changed again to animated characters.

5. And finally, Zegler acting like a complete idiot in repeated interviews standing for Palestine when her co-star is Israeli.

R195 so she should modify her political opinions because of her costar? I notice none of you are criticizing Gal for her political tweets on the situation.

Hey R182 and Mr. Dinklage, in ancients times those midgets and dwarves were kept as pets if they were permitted to survive at all. Many cultures saw them as bad luck and cast them into the ditch at birth.

[quote] [R195] so she should modify her political opinions because of her costar? I notice none of you are criticizing Gal for her political tweets on the situation.

Gal hasn’t spent two years being a rancid cunt and bringing nothing but ill will to this project. Gal is also Israeli and has skin in the game while Rachel is just following whatever the woke outrage of the day is. She’s a dolt and is incapable of forming an original thought that isn’t spoon fed to her by online wokesters. Dime to a dollar the pig-nosed bitch couldn’t find either of those places on a map.

Snow White is now the lowest-rated movie ever on IMDB.com at 1.7

Remove yourself from your right-wing echo chamber and you'll find that many people are disgusted by the civilian death toll in Gaza, r199. I believe the number is currently at 50,000. Israel and Gaza are pretty easy to find on a map.

Here's a 5 month old article from the woke maniacs at the BBC, r199

[quote]If daddy wants to cast Lord Farquaad as Snow White, then that's on him.

They could have given her a more flattering hairdo.

[quote] Remove yourself from your right-wing echo chamber

Ouch! You wound me with you verbal daggers. 🙄

I do know which of those two regions will toss me screaming off a roof to my death and light my corpse on fire in celebration and which one has a banging gay Pride event each year. 🏳️‍🌈

Fuck Rachel Zegler.

[quote] Remove yourself from your right-wing echo chamber and you'll find that many people are disgusted by…

…Rachel Zegler.

Jesus. A whole family of insufferable BROADWAY FAGS!

Meanwhile, outside The Great White Way, the country's got actual goddamn problems. People can't keep their homes. They can't afford food. A fat illiterate felon is morphing us into a dictatorship. People are disappearing off the streets.

But a Disney movie didn't make as much money as they expected, so we're all over it like hillbillies on a strumpet.

[quote]Peter Dinklage did do a lot of damage - but how do you divorce dwarves from the Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs story? It's in the Grimm fairy tale - and they aren't evil - they are good!

And...they don't live in a cave. At least, not in the original Disney film, I don't know what's written in the Grimm brothers version.

Clumsy white do-gooders who are so afraid of a lawsuit - or a protest by tiny people and their pint-sized banners - that they'll butcher a story in order to appease a threat that doesn't really exist.

Back in my day, producers welcomed a controversy. Nothing sold tickets faster than a public scandal, and an obnoxious celebrity going on TV to tell you all NOT to go see it.

[quote]Clumsy white do-gooders who are so afraid of a lawsuit - or a protest by tiny people and their pint-sized banners - that they'll butcher a story in order to appease a threat that doesn't really exist.

Disney is very susceptible to "government by Twitter" thinking.

It's also susceptible to our new dictatorial government.

Iger is orchestrating all of this but not only is astonishingly incompetent he is also worse than Hitler, Stalin and Trump combined.

Is she going to find work again after this fiasco? At least she's secure on Broadway with the success of her last play.

R213, I think many people rightly feel that the main reason for the success of ROMEO + JULIET was the presence of Kit Connor in the cast. Between his excellent acting and his smoking hot body, he created quite the sensation.

Zegler comes across as a geeky theater kid who thinks movies are beneath her. I'm sure all her theater friends/castmates were telling her she's a sell-out.

She's still a dumb, unprofessional cunt for fucking up this gig. I'm sure it paid better than what she made on Broadway.

R46 you run the risk of someone recording that zoom call. Sometimes in-person is the way to go.

Wow. So much insane anger being directed at Rachel Zegler.

Blaming her for this fiasco is not only not a good look, it comes across as bonkers because SHE IS THE ONLY PERSON FROM THE ENTIRE FILM GETTING GOOD REVIEWS.

The one and only.

Everybody else can suck it. And that includes all of you dumbasses on here who hate her solely because of her political convictions. How exhausting you are, exposing the rest of us to your vituperative idiocy.

[quote] So much insane anger being directed at Rachel Zegler.

The correct statement is “So much understandable and justified ire being directed at Rachel Zegler.”

Box office poison Zegler continues to tank the movie.

Nepo baby wat

[quote]. Between his excellent acting and his smoking hot body, he created quite the sensation.

Well, at least one of your reasons is true. He didn’t embarrass himself with his acting, but he only came off better than the rest of the cast because they were all so dire. (The Nurse/Tybalt gave one of the WORST performances of the fall.)

[quote][R46] you run the risk of someone recording that zoom call. Sometimes in-person is the way to go.

Yes, to me that seems the most reasonable explanation. Thanks.

The picture was in trouble from the beginning.

The attacks of Rachel are as over the top as the drooling for NepoJosh.

I don't completely agree, R221. I think Connor's performance was heartfelt and excellent in and of itself. And though I might agree with you about the Nurse/Tybalt, I would say there was some fine acting from some of the others, including the fellow who played both Lord and Lady Capulet (even though I thought it was a dumb idea to have those roles played by one actor).

The movie From Justin to Kelly has a 1.9 rating on IMDB. Zegler’s Snow White has a 1.6. A movie starring two contestants from American Idol, non-actors, is considered a better movie than a Snow White movie starring Zegler. Disney executives need to let that sink in.

That poor child is going to grow into a rectangle-faced person. They go jowelly, you know.

Do I think Rachel is solely to blame for this disaster? No, not at all.

But her behavior was terrible all around.

Now - the mess of the script, the setting, the dwarves, etc. - that falls all on them. Too many cooks in the kitchen or no clear direction in the first place?

I think she's an immature brat - but I also think Disney really fucked up this film with so many reshoots, stupid dwarf controversy, and numerous other mistakes.

[quote]The movie From Justin to Kelly has a 1.9 rating on IMDB.

Oh God, I remember the print ads for that thing. Never have I seen less chemistry.

Of course you're right, R227. Whenever people insist on blaming one particular person or group of people for a fiasco like this, they are almost always wrong, and there is almost always more than enough blame to go around.

[quote] Whenever people insist on blaming one particular person or group of people for a fiasco like this, they are almost always wrong

Almost.

These constant reboots of classic fairytales just don’t work anymore--unless they’re dramatically reimagined.

Peter Pan, Pinocchio, Snow White... studios keep bringing them back, but audiences aren’t connecting the way they used to. It’s not because the characters aren’t beloved. It’s because the storytelling hasn’t evolved with the times.

Modern audiences want something fresh. Look at how Shakespeare keeps getting adapted! Set it in high school (10 Things I Hate About You), shoot it like a music video (Romeo + Juliet), reframe it entirely (She’s the Man). Those stories worked because they were reinterpreted, not just polished up and re-cast.

The same could be done for fairytales. Give me a version of Snow White set in the present day. Or a futuristic take where “Snow White” is a codename, not a descriptor. Just something that makes the world feel new again. Coincidentally, doing this would have eliminated multiple controversies relating to all of this.

Nostalgia alone isn’t enough to carry a reboot anymore. We need reinvention, not just repetition.

R231 - Shakespeare were adult comedies and dramas with some universal conflicts and human characters.

Fairy tales have fantasy elements that you just can't update. Rumpelstiltskin? Goldilocks? Little Red Riding Hood? How the hell do you update these in modern terms?

That's the problem with trying to update Snow White - you rip out so much of the story you're left with a mess.

They did a great job with Maleficent without changing the story. I don't know how you can 'modernize' fairy tales.

R232, I get where you’re coming from, and yeah, Shakespeare’s stuff does translate a little easier because it’s all messy humans doing messy human things. But fairy tales have that too; they’re just wrapped in fantasy and symbolism.

Rumpelstiltskin as a shady tech bro? Goldilocks as a story about privilege or gentrification? Red Riding Hood as a thriller? These things can work if you lean into what the stories are really about, not just the surface-level fairy tale stuff. (And Riding Hood has been changed around a couple of times already.)

And even with Maleficent, they changed a ton! It worked because they gave her a new POV and emotional arc, not because they stuck to the original exactly.

Modernizing fairy tales isn’t about slapping an iPhone into someone’s hand, it’s about remixing the themes to say something new. Fantasy doesn’t have to mean frozen in time.

I think the core theme of Snow White is about how external beauty can invite danger. The whole story is driven by the Queen’s envy, but it’s not just jealousy: it’s fear of being replaced, of losing power, of aging. Snow White’s beauty makes her a target, but it’s her kindness and innocence that ultimately help her survive.

That’s a theme that still hits today, especially in a world obsessed with appearance and comparison. You could absolutely update that in a modern setting.

My point is, if Rachel had of been silent, if the issue with the dwarves didn't happen, etc. I don't think this movie would have been a success.

R196 That's because Gal is not supporting a terrorist regime that stones women when they don't behave as men want them to and throws homosexuals from the roof.

R234 gal is absolutely supporting a terrorist regime. And speaking of throwing people off roofs.

[quote] [R196] That's because Gal is not supporting a terrorist regime that stones women when they don't behave as men want them to and throws homosexuals from the roof.

Bravo. 👏

I’ll never understand self-loathing gay men like so many here on DL who support and defend a culture that is very open about wanting to violently and gleefully murder them.

I guess woke martyrdom is reward enough for some.

Idiots.

The business about a Snow White variant that uses a snowstorm to account for the character’s name does not exist in any traditional version of the tale. And she is thus named for her fair skin, not because she’s white.

And this is really fun to watch when you’re high.

R218,

No.

NepoJosh tap dancing to stay in the will.

R237, it’s all just fiction. In any event, countless songs over the centuries praise women for having fair skin and ruby red lips. It’s the most basic of compliments. Being very pale meant that you didn’t labor in the fields and therefore weren’t a peasant. Alabaster white skin has always been the beauty standard in Asia for the same reason. It has nothing to do with “race.”

Can’t quite work out why it’s such a hardship that his dad had to fly to New York. That’s working for a living.

R106 I didn't see it, but from what I've read, Jeopardy is really about who can press the button the fastest. Apparently, there's a rhythm to how and when to press it?

[quite]Can’t quite work out why it’s such a hardship that his dad had to fly to New York. That’s working for a living.

I don't think the point was about "hardship," but that it was felt the offenses were so great that they had to be dealt with in person, even in an age of Zoom and video calls, etc.

^^^^Sorry:

[quote]Can’t quite work out why it’s such a hardship that his dad had to fly to New York. That’s working for a living.

I don't think the point was about "hardship," but that it was felt the offenses were so great that they had to be dealt with in person, even in an age of Zoom and video calls, etc.

But why is it a hardship that he had to LEAVE his (adult) FAMILY?

This guy is worth millions, he could be there and back in a day.

Where there no private planes available? Was first class sold out? Was the only ticket available final row, middle seat in front of the toilet?

The hysteria isn’t working.

Again, R246, I don't think anyone is claiming it was a great effort or "hardship" for him to fly from L.A. to New York, certainly not in terms of logistics. The point is that few offenses are so serious that it's felt they need to be dealt with in person rather than via phone or the internet.

What part of this is hard for you to understand?

R247 - agreed - and apparently it wasn't just one trip.

The point is - they tried to speak with her reasonably and she wasn't having it. That's why they had to speak in person - she wasn't complying or even understanding their viewpoint.

And you don't know what family commitments this guy had going on - just because the children are older doesn't mean there aren't things going on - birthdays, high school events, sport events, family celebrations/anniversaries.

The fact that he had to take TWO 6 hour flights to address this in person, multiple times, IS a sacrifice. If you've ever flown cross-country and back in a short time window - it's exhausting with the 3 hour time change and basically taking a whole day (6 hr flight plus getting to airport, plus being there an hour before flight, then time getting out of airport).

It's a whole weekend taken up because of some brat. R246 doesn't have much life experience or critical thinking skills.

It’s everyone else’s fault, right?

R248, but why was he “reprimanding” her over her political beliefs?

I'm snow whiter than that slag - they should have cast me instead!

How is no one blaming Gal Gadot. She is more wooden that the CGI dwarves.

R250, if you can't figure out the answer to your own question, you must be dumb as a box of rocks.

[quote] Are there many girls of color…

Of all the dumb wokeisms, “of color” is arguably the most laughably bad.

Basically, if you’re not white, you get thrown into the same non-white category. There is nothing unique, specific or special about your race and ethnicity. You’re just “of color.” Like a box of crayons.

And it basically positions everything as “of color” vs. white. That’s certainly uplifting and brings people together 🙄.

This has always been the inevitable endgame of political correctness: no one is interesting, special or unique. Differences, no matter how interesting, rich or positive, should be ignored at all costs. Everyone is basically a carbon-based life form and nothing more.

It’s a horrible time for the world at the moment, but the death of “wokeism” is the only positive thing that’s happened.

“Of color.” Fuck off. 😂

[quote] How is no one blaming Gal Gadot. She is more wooden that the CGI dwarves.

Because, despite her acting limitations, she was a positive ambassador for the film, did what was asked of her and remained likable and professional throughout the process.

Unlike twat mouth Zegler, who burned down the house before the first frame of film was shot.

And then, of course, there’s the obvious:

The NYT is reporting that Snow White actually cost $350 million to make. Not the $270 million reported earlier by Disney.

It's now projected to have a -70% second weekend drop. The movie could end its run with $300M+ in losses for Disney.

It was thought that Snow White would still "win" its second week, because of the competition this weekend, but now it looks like with movie-goers so filled with revulsion at the thought of seeing Zegler in a movie, that it may not come out on top after all.

That Snow White doesn't look very white to me.

Rachel will be lucky to be cast as Maid #3 in a third-rate telenovela from Bolivia.

You’ve not convinced me to have sympathy at all for Platt having to leave his family 🥺 during a possible sporting event 🥺 to wait an hour at the airport 🥺 before flying across America 🥺 to put the little Muslim lover 🥺 in her place.

Platt decided to remake Snow White. The animation is a charming story, a capsule of the early 20th century and a vital piece of cinematic art.

It’s also a work that little people have complained about for years and which contains the kind of un-consented kiss which hasn’t been spun into romantic for decades. Then he happily cast an inexperienced, brown, Gen Z self-proclaimed woke activist as the white-as-snow heroine. And for good measure an outspoken Israeli Zionist who can’t really act.

But yeah, the words “free Palestine” sunk it. All the red eye flights in the world don’t not make this failed project Platt’s fault.

Zegler is a twat and makes it easy for people to hate her. The way she speaks in these clips, there is a profound sense of self-importance and preciousness, but even worse, an abject lack of self-awareness and intelligence. The bitch is dumb as a rock but thinks everything she says is profound. Typical theater kid energy.

[quote]t was thought that Snow White would still "win" its second week, because of the competition this weekend, but now it looks like with movie-goers so filled with revulsion at the thought of seeing Zegler in a movie,

Horseshit, people aren't going a second week because word of mouth is that the movie is complete garbage. Should never have been made to begin with. Disney is getting the fiasco they deserve.

[quote]but from what I've read, Jeopardy is really about who can press the button the fastest. Apparently, there's a rhythm to how and when to press it?

It is. There are lights on either side of the board and they tick down. You have to wait until they go off before you click the button or else you'll be locked out for a half-second, which is long enough for another player to beat you to the punch.

Source: was on Jeopardy in the '90s.

R262 Exactly. Zegler tanked the promotion to the movie with her BS and not knowing when to STFU, but the movie itself is shit. The only thing Zegler did right is that she's apparently a decent singer. Gadot is pretty but can't act her way out of a paper bag. That said, at least she wasn't a stupid bitch like Zegler.

350 million? Why? CGI dwarves cost so much?

I kinda liked Snow White and the Huntsmen because of Charlize Theron and her mirror. They didn’t have any dwarves in it.

When you reimagine things like all the examples upthread, it’s for young adults or adults, (my example, Mirror, Mirror, Snow White: A Tale of Terror et al) , it’s not for kids. When Disney tries to re-imagine, it’s solely for kids and family.

So what were the “extensive reshoots” about? Did they initially shoot the scenes with the “diversity crew” in lieu of dwarfs (which had been Dinklaged) and then decided to go for CGI dwarfs?

Sounds like Marc Platt(at least he was good as Dream Curly, I don't know why James Mitchell got the movie) and Iger are the villains here. Everybody is blaming Zegler because she is a self absorbed loud mouth but both those men with bad decision after bad decision produced a piece of garbage and it is totally on them. And is Gadot really a bad actor or did she have a traffic cop as a director? Don't they still have dialogue coaches on movies like in the days of the studio system?

R268, you're probably joking, but just for the record, the Marc Platt who was "Dream Curly" in the original OKLAHOMA! (and also appears in the movie in another role, as well as in SEVEN BRIDES FOR SEVEN BROTHERS) died in 2014.

Y'all are crazy if you think this is going to tank Rachel Zegler's career. Far from it.

She is as insufferable as most “theater kid makes it big” types are, including Papa Platt’s other son and the son’s best friend. That comes with the territory. But attacking her for a shallow political post shows just how insecure Platt and others are about their own political positions. Free speech, unless it is for Palestine.

[quote]Attacking her for a shallow political post shows just how insecure Platt and others are about their own political positions.

I don't believe it's only her political posts that are at issue, also the stupid things she said about the original, classic SNOW WHITE film and certain aspects of the new one.

What did she say that was so offensive? (I didn't read the whole thread, sorry if this has been said already.)

She said “and always remember, Free Palestine.”

Platt was also terrific in a couple of Rita Hayworth movies.

[quote] Y'all are crazy if you think this is going to tank Rachel Zegler's career. Far from it.

Her film career is dead. She may have a future as a scolding customer service representative for Mother Jones magazine. But you won’t see Rachel on the big screen for the very long time if ever.

Zegler is similar to Natalia Kills, the singer who along with her husband were fired from being judges on New Zealand X Factor. Natalia has had to change her professional name several times to try to disassociate herself from the infamous event that happened on the show. Zegler won’t have that route available to her since her highly unusual face is too recognizable and viciously attacking a beloved Disney classic created by Walt Disney himself is a far greater offense than speaking harshly to a contestant.

R276 that's fine by me! I'll return to the THEAT-re, where REAL actors excel.

Also, free Palestine!

Pedro Pascal needs his head checked (and not his cock head, though I'd be glad to do that).

Majority rules, bitches!

It was a coalition of basically everyone and all segments of society (except for the loons) who brought down Zegler.

The Platts are pretty much done in Hollywood. These nepo twats need to go away.

Zegler is trash. She needs to go away.

And while I'm not a fan of the Platts, they will still be around in Hollywood due to Marc's power. And speaking of Marc, Snow White was a disaster, but this year he's also got How to Train your Dragon (live action) and Wicked Part II.

Many of the anti-Zegler/pro-Platt posts have a creepy incel undertow.

The pro-Platt crowd are loons.

R263 the lights around the board are timed to the last word in the spoken clue. The strategy was to speed-read the clue ahead of Alex, and if you knew it —be ready to hit the button as he finished reading….much better than simply reading along with him.

Source: I was on Jeopardy in the late 80s

Who does he blame for letting that cunt Peter Dinklage talk them out of casting actual dwarves and using CGI nightmares instead? His dad seems like an easily pushed around moron, and it's not a good look to let his son trash Zegler like that online. Yes, she's an asshole too, I thought everyone knew that? Did she also rewrite the script making them all communists and her being the fairest in the land, referring to equitable acts and not looks? Speaking of, the fucking mirror thing doesn't even make sense now if the question is referring to inner beauty and a sense of justice. Everything about this movie is ridiculous and laughable, but Zegler is probably the best part. It just seems really misogynistic and it can't bode well for his own career. Shit like this is going to make people feel bad for Zegler, and that should never happen.

Pedro better watch his ass. Disney is his main employer now and I’m sure they’re trying to scrub the stain of Rachel the twat from their memory.

Doesn’t he have better things to do? Like shave his legs?

[quote] And you don't know what family commitments this guy had going on - just because the children are older doesn't mean there aren't things going on - birthdays, high school events, sport events, family celebrations/anniversaries.

[quote]The fact that he had to take TWO 6 hour flights to address this in person, multiple times, IS a sacrifice. If you've ever flown cross-country and back in a short time window - it's exhausting with the 3 hour time change and basically taking a whole day (6 hr flight plus getting to airport, plus being there an hour before flight, then time getting out of airport).

What a story. Everything but the bloodhounds snapping at Marc Platt's rear end.

[quote]The strategy was to speed-read the clue ahead of Alex

Now you tell me!

R270 Yup. People are going to be so pissed when she gets her next notable role - 1 year, tops.

[quote] Gadot is pretty but can't act her way out of a paper bag. That said, at least she wasn't a stupid bitch like Zegler.

Gadot has PR people guiding her on what to say and do.

[quote]you're probably joking, but just for the record, the Marc Platt who was "Dream Curly" in the original OKLAHOMA! (and also appears in the movie in another role, as well as in SEVEN BRIDES FOR SEVEN BROTHERS) died in 2014.

See, another bad decision.

[quote] [R270] Yup. People are going to be so pissed when she gets her next notable role - 1 year, tops.

You PR demons need to take baby steps. Your full-throated defense of twat mouth is so tone deaf to the fact that she’s possibly the most hated performer in the world at the moment. Laughably claiming she’ll be getting film roles in no time is not reading the room.

Rachel’s film career is dead. She’s shown no contrition or openness to learning from her horrific mistakes. She will rightfully continue to be a pariah for many years.

I know you all are paid for these laughable posts but your efforts are better spent trying to media train that entitled, bat-shit bitch rather than trying to gaslight people that know better.

There are countless performers with more talent, less attitude and more gratitude than your asshole client.

Now be gone.

She has crucified herself. No studio is going to take a chance on this tone-deaf starlet when there are plenty of other talented young women who can more than fill the post without the preposterous drama.

A new musical Latina shall rise.

why is spoiled nepobaby even entering into the conversation? perhaps his dad needs to make an in-person visit to jonah!

[quote]r294 Your full-throated defense of twat mouth is so tone deaf to the fact that she’s possibly the most hated performer in the world at the moment.

THANK YOU!

[quote]Gadot has PR people guiding her on what to say and do.

I just checked and, not surprisingly, Zegler has a PR firm working with her as well. But I guess they're not doing a very good job of advising her, either that or she just does not listen to them.

Godot may not be a good actress, but she is a very lovely, professional, and easy person to work with. Sometimes that plays a big factor in hiring.

One may as well be professional and easy to work with. It's a very competitive business and every little bit helps.

R300- the bottom line is always box office. they ain’t going to cast a movie with box office poison just cause you are pleasant to work with.

next in line is because someone with great power in the industry is schtupping them.

And I thought I was bad!

Me reading the war between gal and Rachel: Why must EVERYTHING be a CONTEST?!

Oh for fucks sake. Do we really need Mommie Dearest intersecting with Snow White, R303 and R304?

Well, the Evil Queen drawings were based on Joan Crawford.

The evil queen should’ve known Snow White knew where to find the boys AND the booze.

If a live action Snow White had been made 40 years ago Faye Dunaway would've been perfect as the Evil Queen. And she really could act, too.

Someone is not happy.

" Dancing the Palestine Polka with her partner Sasha Farber, it's Rachel Zegler."

[quote] But I guess they're not doing a very good job of advising her, either that or she just does not listen to them.

She's probably not listening to them.

She needs to speak her truth.

This article here is exactly why no one trusts liberal media anymore. If the pro-Blake Lively pieces from these publications didn’t make it clear that these magazines and journalists are nothing but propaganda whores to Hollywood PR firms, this certainly makes it clear.

[quote]According to the VANITY FAIR article, The more that comes to light about Zegler and the Snow White debacle, the better 23-year-old Zegler looks to many observers.

I'm sure that's true, BUT it also true that many, many other "observers" are now looking at Zegler in exactly the opposite way.

Rachel Zegler is too short for that gesture.

Rachel is the escape goat?

R313, before you keep pointing out like the fascist tool you are that the "liberal media" are dishonest, please be aware that in the real world when "magazines and journalists are nothing but propaganda whores to Hollywood PR firms" it means they're not "liberal," they're typically money grubbing.

You're uneducated and a turd whose only honesty is in your foul stink.

Fuck you and the fat Orange Hitler you rode in on.

[quote] it means they're not "liberal," they're typically money grubbing.

You sweet, darling, innocent sucker. You really do believe "liberals" are not interested in money, do you.

She's talented and reasonably pretty, but she needs to learn to shut her big mouth. Just because you have opinions and you're fairly famous does not mean you should share them with the universe if you're not smart and thoughtful.

That being said, I have no investment nor interest in her being canceled.

[QUOTE]She's talented and reasonably pretty, but she needs to learn to shut her big mouth.

Really, says you? She's an American and can say what the fuck she wants. If their are consequences, well she's a big girl, she will deal with it. You sound MAGA.

Ariana DeBose quoted a part of Jonah’s rant on her Instagram story. Some people think she’s throwing shade at Rachel Zegler after she landed Evita over DeBose

DeBose or Zegler? Arsenic or botulism?

And now Rachel Zegler will lead the Jamie Lloyd-helmed EVITA on the West End this summer.

Oh, how she struggles so!

All you fascist dingbats can just suck it with your idiotic takes on her. And I feel this way as a casual observer, not a crazed Zegler fan.

Get off your fucking screens and go to the gym. Or get laid. Anything.

R321 Ariana DeBose wore out her welcome in London after her little stunt at the BAFTAs.

Is DeBose bitter they ended up going with Zegler over her even though she was in final stages of casting?

[QUOTE] Really, says you? She's an American and can say what the fuck she wants. If their are consequences, well she's a big girl, she will deal with it. You sound MAGA

she’s american and (supposedly) the government can’t punish her for free speech, but her private employer can fire her for the same free speech.

Not so fast R326, Gal made political speech about it too and faced no repercussions. I bet Rachel has the makings of a discrimination lawsuit on her hands if she faces mistreatment whereas Gal doesn’t.

[quote] Gal made political speech about it too and faced no repercussions.

Gadot expressed support for one of our most important allies and denounced terrorism. Zegler expressed support for people who support terrorism. Obviously, there’s a night and day difference. It’s nonsensical to suggest there could or should be repercussions for anyone denouncing terrorism.

You have to be way over the cliff to say that “Free Palestine” means supporting terrorism.

They should make a movie about this. Call it "Son of Snow White"*

R318 can't read.

Cunts are illiterate. after all.

[quote] It’s nonsensical to suggest there could or should be repercussions for anyone denouncing terrorism.

I must have missed the part where Gal criticized Israel 😜

From The New Yorker, "The “Snow White” Controversy, Like Our Zeitgeist, Is Both Stupid and Sinister":

[quote] Placing the failure of “Snow White” largely at Zegler’s feet—as many insiders in Hollywood are evidently eager to do—is almost perversely flattering to her. The Walt Disney Company has a market cap of nearly a hundred and eighty billion dollars, and yet, in Variety’s telling, this international conglomerate could not “overcome the backlash that had been brewing like a fairy tale cauldron.” I am no box-office analyst, but, for what it’s worth, my kids are squarely in the “Snow White” demographic, and I don’t think they were lukewarm on going to see it because its star has insufficiently nuanced opinions about Prince Florian, President Trump, or the Israel-Hamas war. (An open letter from film journalists criticizing Variety’s coverage of Zegler has about a hundred and eighty signatures.)

[quote] The Platt anecdote and the framing of the Variety article in which it first appeared point to what is perhaps the most interesting aspect of the “Snow White” debacle: the film’s position in a larger narrative about which kinds of views on the Israel-Palestine conflict are acceptable in Hollywood—or anywhere in the U.S. circa 2025, really—and who is permitted to air them. The top Hollywood agent Maha Dakhil stepped away from her role as co-chief of C.A.A.’s motion-pictures department after she shared—and then deleted and profusely apologized for—an Instagram post that referred to Israel’s military attack on Gaza as “genocide.” The actress Melissa Barrera was fired from the “Scream” franchise for expressing pro-Palestinian sentiments online. In contrast, the actor Mark Ruffalo won his fourth Oscar nomination in 2024 despite vocal opposition on social media and elsewhere to Israel’s military actions in Gaza. Ruffalo’s fellow-actor Guy Pearce, one of the most prominent pro-Palestine voices in the film world, earned his first Academy Award nomination this year and sat in the front row at the ceremony, where “No Other Land,” about the I.D.F.’s demolition of a Palestinian community in the West Bank, won the Oscar for documentary feature.

[quote] In other words, there would appear to be space in Hollywood to demonstrate sympathy for the more than fifty thousand human beings that Israeli military forces have killed in Gaza, as well as for the roughly twelve hundred human beings that Hamas killed in its October 7th terror attack on Israel. But you must be the right sort of person to demonstrate such sympathies, and you must use the correct terminology. One might speculate that Ruffalo and Pearce have more latitude than Dakhil and Barerra because they are both middle-aged white men. And yet, last year, after the director Jonathan Glazer won an Oscar for his astonishing Holocaust film, “The Zone of Interest,” an open letter circulated in Hollywood to condemn his acceptance speech as supporting a “blood libel,” attracting more than a thousand signatories (Jonah Platt among them). One Academy member likened Glazer’s measured words to a “Hamas rally.” Among Glazer’s offenses was in using the word “occupation” to refer to the occupied territories and invoking the “dehumanization” of both Israelis and Palestinians in the ongoing war.

I've always thought Ruffalo was a creep, and now I know Guy Pearce is too. Too bad, Guy was hot.

Oh, brother, Miss R334.

Iger and Platt are total rich Hollywood slime buckets(like Louis B Mayer but without the talent) and are using a very young woman as a scapegoat. Yeah she's an entitled full of herself naive narcissist blabbermouth but this film sounds like total garbage and that's on these two very old very rich communists. Nothing but bad moves and thinking everyone else is at fault. If it were at all good people would have ignored what Zegler said and gone to see it. Before they pave over Rivers of America I want both these men who need to croak thrown in first alive. Throw in quite a few Florida crocodiles for good measure.

It's interesting if the evil queen were based on Crawford because she's the reason why one of Disney biggest successes exists. She got Pepsi to pay for It's a Small World at the New York World's Fair where it premiered. It was also known as the Pepsi Pavillion. I assumed they were friends in their early Hollywood years.

The best figure in the be original Snow White is the old witch. Who voiced here?

Good for Ben.

^^ His face looks like melted Pillsbury muffin dough.

Son of Snow White? Which one of the dwarfs did it?

R339 - Ben Platt is so easy to make fun of... for his lack of self-awareness (the Palace concerts, looking 39 and playing a high schooler etc.) but, you know what, good for him. That genuinely takes courage. To speak up in support of Palestinians when....

a). You work on Broadway, a very small, insular world that does not tolerate dissent from AIPAC talking points,

b). Your own (pretty powerful) father and your own brother have very publicly aired... less than nuanced views on the same topic.

c). You will undoubtedly have small-minded ultra right zios call you self-hating as they've done with other Jewish celebrities who have expressed sympathy for Palestinians, too. I'm actually impressed with the character he's shown.

Just when Ben Platt couldn't be any more of an irritant he goes and does something even more irritating.

It must be awkward in the Platt household right now.

As soon as anyone hears "Zionist" they should just ignore that person.

Jesus Christ, people. You can hate what the woman has said and done, as I do, but get her name right. It's Zegler, not "Ziegler," and it's not that difficult.

[quote]r346 Jesus Christ, people. You can hate what the woman has said and done, as I do, but get her name right. It's Zegler, not "Ziegler," and it's not that difficult.

I thought it was Sieg-Heilzegler (?)

The only redeeming things about this movie were the soundtrack and Rachel. All Disney needed to do to improve on the original was show more interactions between Snow White and the Queen. Had they left EVERYTHING else untouched this remake would’ve been decent.

As a result of all these changes this remake took a blowtorch to almost a century of cinema history without looking back. The only reason this film will be remembered is because it will be a history lesson for marketing classes in college.

[quote] The only redeeming things about this movie were the soundtrack and Rachel.

Stating that Rachel is actually somehow a redeeming feature of the movie is just trolling.

R344 Good for Ben Platt.