I found The Prince of Tides on streaming!

My mother always preferred "The Mirror Has Two Faces," if only so she could yell about Bacall not winning an Oscar and about the absurdity of Babs becoming a swan simply by buying a treadmill.

[quote]My main gripe is that I feel a little bad for Jason Gould that his mom shoehorned him into her pet project when he was in the middle of his adolescence and in the middle of his lifelong inability to act.

WTF are you babbling on about ? Jason was in his mid-20s when he took on the role as 'Bernard'. Middle of his adolescence ? He turned in a fine performance for his debut in a major motion picture, as the critics pointed out.

“Fine performance” is a reach.

Xumo's NOT d-tier!!!

[quote] My main gripe is that I feel a little bad for Jason Gould that his mom shoehorned him into her pet project when he was in the middle of his adolescence

So 25-years-old is now considered “adolescence?”

🙄

The book is absolute garbage. GARBAGE.

The movie is absolute garbage. GARBAGE.

Of all the gays Barbra knows, she casts George Carlin? GEORGE CARLIN????

There isn’t an authentic moment in either the book or the movie.

It’s. All. GARBAGE.

The Wind Whispers Lowenstein!

R7 A friend and I laughed like idiots at that line when we saw it in the theater.

Gosh, OP: I wasn't looking for it.

R5, in Malibu, yes.

[quote]“Fine performance” is a reach.

Yes, for those who only watch Marvel Superhero movies.

It’s good for 90s nostalgia, but it’s just ok and hasn’t aged well.

Streisand is vain and self-important and it puts me off.

It was okay, except I could have done without the explicit CSA scene.

I happened to be passing through Grand Central while they were filming Jason's lines. I was looking all over for Barbra. She was standing three feet from me. She is surprisingly short and petite. Sidney Pollack stopped by. They were happy to see each other. I watched for about 15 minutes than had to get to a business meeting.

The Prince Of Tides like an old fashioned Hollywood women’s picture.

You can picture Spencer Tracy and Bette Davis in the lead roles.

I always thought it was kind of amusing that Barbra entirely eliminated the character who is actually “The Prince of Tides” in the book and made her character, a relatively minor one, into the lead. Classic Babs!

Don't we all need a little Susan Lowenstein in our lives??

Tony Soprano’s favourite movie. Beyond him wanting to boff Melfi, I didn’t know why.

Another Streisand thread, along with the James Brolin-Streisand one...

R#8 - he is her prince of TIDE detergent.

[quote]I found The Prince of Tides on streaming!

Maybe you could lose it again?

[quote] I found The Prince of Tides on streaming!

Well, keep it to yourself.

R6, I remember loving the novel.

I enjoyed the film for what was good in it—principally Nick Nolte (probably runner up for the Oscar that year—Hopkins’ Hannibal Lecter was so sui generis that, even though it’s a short performance as “leads” go, it was a satisfying win) and Kate Nelligan, spanning eras and doing a credible Southern steel magnolia. Carlin, usually a smart and genial presence as a comic just didn’t work as an aging hippie gay man. Jason Gould was not as dreadful as we might have feared he might be, but it was not a skillful performance, either technically or emotionally (I blame his mother—don’t we always). Pat Conroy wrote decent beach reads—his best were his memoir of teaching, The Water is Wide (Conrack) and The Great Santini. He was a southern novelist for those who found William Styron too challenging (let alone Faulkner). And Barbra should have found a better actress to play Lowenstein—if she had, she might have gotten an Oscar nomination for Director. As it was, it came across as too much of a vanity project for that (though no worse in that respect than Spielberg’s home movie).

I did read The Water is Wide for special credit in 9th grade English class. It wasn't bad. Then years later I read The Lords of Discipline. I would never read another Pat Conroy novel after that one. I hardly remember the finer plot points, but it was just all over the place, overdramatic, leading you on and not delivering anything very satisfying by the conclusion. Not well written and full of half baked ideas,

[quote] And Barbra should have found a better actress to play Lowenstein—if she had, she might have gotten an Oscar nomination for Director. As it was, it came across as too much of a vanity project for that (though no worse in that respect than Spielberg’s home movie).

Indeed, everyone was still burned by Yentl, which I thought she may have reputationally gotten away with had she excised the songs.

That said, whilst I found Barbra’s acting affecting in TPOT, a different actress would have been smarter. I don’t know who, though. Jean Smart? Helen Mirren? Jessica Lange? Was Faye Dunaway sane at the time?

Imagine Barbra directing Faye as Lowenstein

No one in their pre-Hacks right mind would even imagine Jean Smart as a convincing Lowenstein. Rightfully.

Unpopular opinion, but The Mirror Has Two Faces is head and shoulders a greater film than PoT.

Why does no one mention that Mother Goop is in this movie?

Because Blythe Danner is forgettable in screen, as always.

Sort of a forgettable film, but boy what a plot twist when the Nick Nolte character finally recounts the childhood memory of getting his drain snaked by marauding hillbillies

Brenda Vaccaro would have been a fabulous Lowenstein