Sexual orientation revealed by body type and motion, study suggests
[quote] Researchers “measured the hips, waists and shoulders of eight male and eight female volunteers, half of whom were gay and half straight”
[quote] Based on these measurements, the researchers determined that the gay subjects tended to have more gender-incongruent body types than their straight counterparts (hourglass figures for men, tubular bodies for women) and body motions (hip-swaying for men, shoulder-swaggering for women) than their straight counterparts.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 52 | April 28, 2025 7:23 AM
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[quote] The findings also are part of mounting evidence suggesting that sexual orientation may actually be what social scientists call a "master status category," or a defining characteristic that observers cannot help but notice and which has been scientifically shown to color all subsequent social dealings with others.
[quote] "Once you know a person's sexual orientation, the fact has consequences for all subsequent interactions, and our findings suggest that this category of information can be deduced from subtle clues in body movement," Johnson said.
by Anonymous | reply 1 | March 23, 2025 2:18 AM
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That body type does not describe me.
by Anonymous | reply 2 | March 23, 2025 2:21 AM
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Asteroids do not concern me, admiral.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 3 | March 23, 2025 2:28 AM
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16 people is not enough to provide meaningful data.
by Anonymous | reply 4 | March 23, 2025 2:32 AM
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Is this that thing where you finally screw up all your courage, come out, and they say they’ve known all along?
“It was my shoulder swagger, wasn’t it?”
by Anonymous | reply 5 | March 23, 2025 2:36 AM
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So gay men have birthing hips?
by Anonymous | reply 6 | March 23, 2025 2:53 AM
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I have the hourglass figure, lol, but never saw it in other gay men. I remember in high school I sat next to a lesbian and she made me feel her washboard abs.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | March 23, 2025 3:13 AM
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Gay men walk as if we are choreographing to a song loudspeakering inside of our heads.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | March 23, 2025 3:20 AM
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[quote] loudspeakering inside of our heads.
For this homo it’s just tinnitus.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | March 23, 2025 3:48 AM
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[quote] loudspeakering
Should it be loudspeaking?
by Anonymous | reply 11 | March 23, 2025 3:50 AM
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[quote]Once you know a person's sexual orientation, the fact has consequences for all subsequent interactions
Well sure--if you're on Tinder or Grindr.
But otherwise, do we really believe in 2025 that everyone will treat a person differently ever after if we find out that person's orientation is not the one we thought? I don't like this study and I sure don't like this being its premise. It's UCLA, FFS, not the University of Dogpatch.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | March 23, 2025 2:23 PM
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Why are you so good to me?
by Anonymous | reply 13 | March 23, 2025 2:36 PM
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Insignificant sample size; this article should have never been published.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | March 23, 2025 2:53 PM
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Is r13 the fake Now, Voyager dialogue troll?
by Anonymous | reply 15 | March 23, 2025 2:55 PM
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R6 My ex did have oddly shaped hips. Maybe this explains it.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | March 23, 2025 3:07 PM
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As others have already pointed out ("16 people...", "Insignificant sample size") this study is fatally flawed.
It's also from 2007.
[quote]If casual observers can determine sexual orientation with minimal information, then the value in concealing this information certainly appears questionable.
And fails to take into account code-shifting, passing, or any of the multitude of factors that make up gaydar. Again, a flawed study; were the subjects told what they were looking at/for? Were they coached in any way, including not at all? The hiccup is that in a study like this (if it were being conducted legitimately or with any desire to produce authentic results) is that the information provided to the subjects is paramount in understanding the conclusions. Even that the study appears to come out of UCLA makes the conclusions suspect; people are far more open and revealing in a liberal city than they are in a conservative town.
Yeah, gaydar is real. Thanks for the laughs.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | March 23, 2025 3:13 PM
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I call bullshit on this "study."
I have what can be charitably called "childbearing hips." I also have somewhat narrow shoulders. My straight sisters had much more upper body strength than I've ever had.
My youngest sister, with her broad shoulders (HS swimmer), large breasts, and perfect hourglass figure has often been cruised by women. Me? Puh.
by Anonymous | reply 19 | March 23, 2025 3:20 PM
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Does my extended belly make me look fat?
by Anonymous | reply 22 | March 23, 2025 3:29 PM
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It's an 18 year old study. Yes, it's too small of a sample for subjects, but they had 112 observers (significant amount) to view their walk and see if they could guess.
60% were able to select the gay men but they could not accurately guess the women. This also is meaningless - just slight better than a toin-coss for men and meaningless for women.
All of this based on FOUR gay men at UCLA in 2006/2007. I would have to say picking any undergrads who were out back then (or even today) would have skewed the sample.
This is a really flawed study and the researchers should be embarrassed to publish this.
I do think there are some gay men that you can tell by the way their walk - that's undeniable. But many straight people are taken back when they go to a gay bar and see all of these 'regular' types that they would never have guessed were gay.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | March 23, 2025 3:35 PM
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God most people are surprised to know I'm gay even if they've known me a long time. Only once did a woman know off the bat I was gay and she was drunk.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | March 23, 2025 3:48 PM
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Wow.
Sixteen cases divided into two subsets of eight.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | March 23, 2025 10:24 PM
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[quote] casting a cold eye
I view this study with side wonky eye.
by Anonymous | reply 28 | March 23, 2025 10:55 PM
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Why are people utterly obsessed with finding some physical differences in gays vs straights.
It like the millions of dollars that went into finding physical differences between blacks and whites—ultimately finding nothing
by Anonymous | reply 29 | March 24, 2025 3:17 AM
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Because people are obsessed by difference rather than what brings us together.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | March 25, 2025 2:24 PM
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R29 - I'm not necessarily opposed to this study - but I'm just shocked how any research supervisor would allow this to go forward.
All of this based on 4 gays and 4 lesbians walking habits. It's absurd on its face. How did they even select the 4 gays and lesbians? Did they sign-up from an ad? Were they chosen by friends of friends?
Anyone involved in any research would say this was flawed from the start.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | March 25, 2025 2:54 PM
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[quote] All of this based on FOUR gay men at UCLA in 2006/2007
Did they conduct this study on the second floor of Royce Hall?
(wink, wink)
by Anonymous | reply 33 | March 25, 2025 5:35 PM
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This study sounds swishy, I mean, fishy.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | March 25, 2025 5:46 PM
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[quote] I mean, fishy.
Do you refer to the lesbians?
by Anonymous | reply 35 | March 25, 2025 5:47 PM
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Gay men can be swishy. I'll alert the media.
by Anonymous | reply 36 | March 25, 2025 10:31 PM
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So if you’re bi, do you just appear and act ambiguous?
by Anonymous | reply 37 | March 25, 2025 10:52 PM
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My gaydar is the worst. I've found myself in awkward situations because of it. Or maybe they just weren't into me.
by Anonymous | reply 38 | March 25, 2025 11:05 PM
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Stealth Matt Damon thread
by Anonymous | reply 39 | April 27, 2025 4:12 AM
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Maybe we need to stop obsessing about gays being different and somehow biologically distinct and differentz
How about you just accept our word for it?
by Anonymous | reply 40 | April 27, 2025 4:27 AM
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[quote]Researchers “measured the hips, waists and shoulders of eight male and eight female volunteers, half of whom were gay and half straight”
8 people of each sex. Anyone who takes this study seriously is an idiot.
by Anonymous | reply 41 | April 27, 2025 6:07 AM
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[Quote] That body type does not describe me.
WE KNOW
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 42 | April 27, 2025 7:34 AM
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Straight guys are made up of squares: square head, shoulders and hips.
by Anonymous | reply 43 | April 27, 2025 9:13 AM
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[quote] Stealth Matt Damon thread
Explain please.
by Anonymous | reply 44 | April 27, 2025 2:43 PM
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Some researchers (and people in general) are obsessed with finding physical, biologically based and visibly identifiable differences between straight and non-straight people because they do not want to accept the fact that sexuality is on a spectrum and like almost all of the population they (at least occasionally) feel attraction to their same sex too.
by Anonymous | reply 45 | April 27, 2025 5:49 PM
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I've never felt the least sexual attraction to a woman.
by Anonymous | reply 46 | April 27, 2025 9:52 PM
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A 2007 study of 8 participants? Get fucked.
by Anonymous | reply 47 | April 27, 2025 9:57 PM
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^^^ I meant 8 male & 8 female. Same absurd conclusion. Who funded this study ? Pat Robertson?
by Anonymous | reply 48 | April 27, 2025 10:02 PM
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I ain't never seen a sidewalk that I didn't instantly turn into my own personal runway.
by Anonymous | reply 49 | April 28, 2025 5:05 AM
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I was taught by Belle at Mel's Diner to make my hips move like the waves of the ocean, uh-huh.
by Anonymous | reply 50 | April 28, 2025 5:14 AM
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Do bisexuals and asexuals just adapt to their surrounding environment like an osmosis thing?
by Anonymous | reply 51 | April 28, 2025 5:16 AM
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These weirdo studies always sound like high school research assignments turned in by Weston and Virgil from Kids in the Hall.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 52 | April 28, 2025 7:23 AM
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