"Adolescence" on Netflix
Four-part British drama about the arrest of a 13-year-old boy for murder. Each episode takes place in 60 minutes in one continuous shot (it's not, of course, but the computer magic to make it look like it is remarkable).
There's a newcomer playing Jamie and he's excellent given that he's on camera most of the time.
Looking forward to finishing it tomorrow night. Apparently ep 3 is a two-hander set in one room with Jamie and his shrink.
by Anonymous | reply 108 | August 3, 2025 10:18 AM
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It is really really good. I watched the first episode and it honestly upset me so much I had to put it down. I will watch it but I cannot binge it.
by Anonymous | reply 1 | March 14, 2025 4:27 AM
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I binged the whole thing and it's brilliant. Getting five star reviews across the board and it's going to sweep all the awards.
by Anonymous | reply 2 | March 14, 2025 4:33 AM
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Bonus: Ashley Walters, who plays the lead cop in the investigation, is jacked as hell and spends much of the show in a tight T-shirt.
by Anonymous | reply 3 | March 14, 2025 6:25 PM
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The woman who played Princess Anne in The Crown shows up as a shrink in one episode and she is terrific.
by Anonymous | reply 4 | March 14, 2025 6:42 PM
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I got Netflix for a lark and I’m Loving it. I had no idea. I want to watch 75% of all of it.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | March 14, 2025 7:44 PM
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Stephen Graham is a G but I never knew Ashley Walters had it in him to act well in a drama.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | March 15, 2025 3:17 PM
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That kid in episode 3 - he’s phenomenal.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | March 15, 2025 5:52 PM
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Fantastic miniseries & brilliant acting by all.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | March 15, 2025 6:25 PM
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Absolutely brilliant show and the child actor is phenomenal. This is his first ever acting job and his next gig is playing a young Heathcliff in Emerald Fennell's Wuthering Heights.
10/10 show - no notes.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | March 15, 2025 6:29 PM
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Ashley and Stephen would make cute power bottoms
by Anonymous | reply 11 | March 15, 2025 7:57 PM
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Watched all four episodes last night. Episode four was kind of a drag after episode 3, but overall a great series.
The kid playing Jamie really was fantastic. Reminded me a little of Asa Butterfield when he was young. There was only one part in episode three that made me say 'eh, he's acting, bad line' but other than that, a terrific performance.
The lead detective in episodes 1 and 2 was hot!
by Anonymous | reply 12 | March 15, 2025 8:05 PM
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The young actress in ep 2 who plays Jade, the victim's best friend, is also remarkable. Not much screen time but she radiates pain, defiance, sarcasm, loathing, and finally vulnerability with minimal work.
by Anonymous | reply 13 | March 15, 2025 8:52 PM
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There were some dodgy acting moments in episode 2 (some of the boys and a few moments by the female junior school teacher); but that’s mostly compared to the excellence of every supporting performance by the the adults in the police station in episode 1. The writing of the hellscape that is a secondary school was excellent. It almost shouldn’t work - each classroom having a different variety of harried teacher, each scene having a different variety of asshole teenager - but it did.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | March 15, 2025 9:08 PM
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I have such a crush on Stephen Graham. Great actor, and I love his jacked little spark plug body.
by Anonymous | reply 15 | March 15, 2025 11:47 PM
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[quote]The kid playing Jamie really was fantastic. Reminded me a little of Asa Butterfield when he was young. There was only one part in episode three that made me say 'eh, he's acting, bad line' but other than that, a terrific performance.
Episode 3 had what is perhaps the best sustained acting I've ever seen from a child. If he'd done that in a movie, it would be a Best Actor nomination for sure and quite deservedly so.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | March 16, 2025 3:40 AM
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The single take gimmick really makes the series.
Episode 3 was powerful but also… conventional? Or maybe logical is a better term. It pretty much went how I expected. I think the hype and 5 star garlands in the Guardian made me believe it would be something really different, as opposed to something very well done with a stunningly focused teen performer.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | March 16, 2025 9:20 AM
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I watched it in one go and enjoyed the variety of episodes. Each left me with different feelings. Despite the young actor and Stephen Graham receiving all the well deserved buzz, the actress Erin Doherty, the psychologist in episode 3, also gave a truly contained and powerful performance. Episode 3 is also currently scoring the highest on IMDB at 9.1. I agree it’s not entirely original either. There were many familiar aspects like it was like a mashup between a typical Brit procedural and ‘Something about Kevin’.
It’s excellent, but it’s not the best television in decades like much of the UK media is pushing. Days later, the most lingering and horrifying aspect to me of the series was the abject dysfunction of the school more than the crime itself.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | March 16, 2025 10:22 AM
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Erin Doherty was also excellent as a young Princess Anne in The Crown.
She and Stephen Graham are costarring in the new streaming series, A Thousand Blows. I haven’t gotten around to watching it yet.
by Anonymous | reply 19 | March 16, 2025 12:42 PM
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Thanks for the recommendation. The premiere ep really sucked me in.
by Anonymous | reply 20 | March 16, 2025 9:25 PM
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I was not impressed by this show. Maybe if it had come out 11 years ago in the times of Elliott Rodger, it might be something new. How the fuck does the cop not know 1.) sarcasm 2.) red pill references. The dad saying something about MGTOW, all of it was just so 2016. That kid was a little fucking asshole and not smart at all or he would have known that the state appointed psychiatrist is not your friend. I can't believe he wouldn't know not to blow up at her, not once, but 3 times! It also had a tinge of "Defending Jacob" in it, at least, since the parents were able to admit it. So is the message that everyone is a bully and if they are, it's okay to kill them?
by Anonymous | reply 21 | March 16, 2025 10:44 PM
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[quote] It also had a tinge of "Defending Jacob" in it, at least, since the parents were able to admit it. So is the message that everyone is a bully and if they are, it's okay to kill them?
My assumption is the show aimed to dramatise how it is a constant struggle for a lot of men to live comfortably in their masculinity and be an healthy part of society if they are experiencing with trauma and are ill-equipped to deal with everyday layers of social power.
Did it work? It’s not a perfect show but in large part, I think so. The bravura performances and single take gimmick papered over some of the cracks.
I felt the last episode was actually quite good in that it showed how much Stephen Graham’s emotional instability was catered to by his wife and daughter. That although he was a thoroughly loving person and he didn’t beat his family, he still held onto his rage and didn’t break the cycle of self-loathing and violence he experienced.
[quote] How the fuck does the cop not know 1.) sarcasm 2.) red pill references
Or the oblivious junior school teacher having a barely passing knowledge of Andrew Tate and incels.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | March 17, 2025 1:48 AM
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R22 Thank you, you put it much more succintly than I could. I do understand they are trying to show how hard it is to be a man, and masculinity, etc. It just seemed so...late for this. Anyone who has any questions need only listen to this song.
"What's a man now? What's a man mean?
Is he rough or is he rugged? Is he cultural and clean?
See the nice boys dancing in pairs
Golden earring, golden tan, and blow wave in their hair
Sure, they're all straight, straight as a line
All the gays are macho, can't you see the leather shine?"
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 23 | March 17, 2025 4:10 AM
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I talked about Episode 3 with someone and we had diametrically different takes on Erin Doherty's character — it really can be seen in multiple ways.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | March 17, 2025 4:49 AM
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Trying not to give away any spoilers but when the "bombshell" was dropped in the last episode (and it wasn't even really a bombshell) I thought, well this is sort of anti climactic. But then, once you really lean into that last episode and the manic nature of it: the glimmers of happiness, the reminiscing of better times, and hope for the future all while contrasting with utter despair and heartbreak. It was amazing to watch.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | March 17, 2025 3:49 PM
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Just finished it, disturbing & heart-breaking, didn't cry, but, came damned close.
Thank Christ above I'm a childless fag.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | March 17, 2025 10:44 PM
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That school was a hellscape. Teachers hapless and powerless. Children absolute shits.
by Anonymous | reply 28 | March 19, 2025 3:31 PM
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The schools I attended were no different.
by Anonymous | reply 29 | March 19, 2025 3:40 PM
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EG here. I am not an easy crier, but this one had me a puddle!
by Anonymous | reply 30 | March 19, 2025 3:49 PM
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Just started watching. I’ll watch anything with Stephen Graham.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | March 20, 2025 3:24 AM
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I think the parents would have heard of the term “appropriate adult.” It’s a very common term over there used in TV crime dramas.
This is a remarkable limited series, though.
Ashley Walters is a SNACK.
by Anonymous | reply 32 | March 20, 2025 4:25 AM
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I'm reading this thread because I don't want spoilers, but the first episode was fucking amazing. Even though nothing really happened until the last five minutes, I was on the edge of my seat.
I loved that they made the kid a good kid (at least so far) instead of a cliche Bad Omen type kid.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | March 20, 2025 8:34 AM
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*NOT reading this thread...
by Anonymous | reply 34 | March 20, 2025 8:35 AM
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I think this was a brilliant series. Yes, the one-take episodes are an exercise in technique, I guess you could say. But it was pulled off... gave a sense of immediacy and tension. Episode 3 had incredible script (I agree/disagree with some of critiques above - yes an examination of modern masculinity was expected - but the repartee between the boy and the therapist was quirky and surprising... it was like Slice of the Lambs, or Equus... an abnormal mind exposed, but in disturbingly natural ways.).
The boy's delivery in Episode 3 was riveting. That he could perform at that level for an extended period of time... with not one cut....made me think that it really couldn't have been filmed in one take. Somehow AI or something must have disguised cuts.
by Anonymous | reply 35 | March 22, 2025 2:02 AM
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I watched the whole thing in one evening. In terms of plot or character development, it broke no new ground for me. The acting was better than average, I suppose, and the single take technique was effective. But I found myself hoping for something – anything – unexpected. I guess I’d like it better if it were a dramatic reenactment of a true event rather than fiction crafted from many sources. 2/5 stars. Meh.
by Anonymous | reply 36 | March 22, 2025 2:21 AM
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That boy might be the best child actor ever. The way he could switch emotions in the middle of a sentence; there's one scene where he actually goes through a panoply of varying emotions in one speech. It's remarkable.
My only complaint was the last hour -- the father wasn't interesting enough for the whole show to end up being about him as much as the boy. Then again, he was the co-creator, so he knew he could win awards by doing what he did.
Yeah, cynical. But whatever. It was really all about the boy.
by Anonymous | reply 37 | March 22, 2025 2:21 AM
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It was the mother in that fourth episode who broke my heart over and over. The actress’ name is Christine Tremarco and I first remember her as the sexually abused young girl in the film Priest back in the 1990s. She reminds me a lot of Merrit Wever-there’s only a three year age difference between them.
by Anonymous | reply 38 | March 22, 2025 5:38 PM
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Is this the race swapping one?
by Anonymous | reply 39 | March 22, 2025 5:40 PM
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It’s not a real story so I guess the answer is no, but thanks for playing.
by Anonymous | reply 40 | March 22, 2025 5:44 PM
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Christine was pretty great as she tried to hold it all together and was trying to maintain some love for a child she recognizes is a monster.
by Anonymous | reply 41 | March 22, 2025 5:45 PM
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Why was the psychologist crying? Was it because she had been scared by the boy or was she in shock that his personality could turn like that?
by Anonymous | reply 43 | March 23, 2025 1:25 AM
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Agree with you, r38, the mother gave an astonishing performance in the last episode (which i understand is the more divise one), i loved excepr for the teddy bear part, somehow unnecessary.
My view wasn’t a psychopath or a sociopath or whatever. Just conflicted and awfully misguided in his attempt for approval. It makes it more scary than a full back story. Really great story telling.
by Anonymous | reply 44 | March 23, 2025 1:34 AM
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I thought EPisode 4 was made the tragedy of the whole series so heart-breaking. We see how what happens to Jamie affects the entire family. Only having him as a voice made the haunting absence even more powerful for me. I came from a family that had a monster brother in it, and his whole life colored the way the rest of us were raised and how we interacted. Nothing quite as dramatic as this series (just some run-ins with the law and a case of statutory rape), but my sister and I felt that, even though our brother was nine years older than me and five years older than she, we were held to standards and had our parents' fears based on his behavior projected on us. He's been dead twenty years--I hve made a kind of peace by trying to think what it must have been like to be him (I am only partially successful), but my sister I know can never forgive him (she ws five years between us and, as a girl, was the victim of some of his predations). I'm sure most families have a monster in the basement.
I'd like to put Jamie in a room with Rhoda Penmark and see who emerges. I also thought the discourse on incels, while heavy-handed at times, gave food for thought--how the awfulness of Andrew Weeks and Nick Fuentes has trickled down to boys at their most vulnerable. I was in grad program where one of the instructors worshipped Jordan Peterson. I knew I had to leave it.
by Anonymous | reply 45 | March 23, 2025 2:46 AM
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R45, Rhoda would throw some excelsior on Jamie & strike a match.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 46 | March 23, 2025 6:09 AM
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[quote] Why was the psychologist crying? Was it because she had been scared by the boy or was she in shock that his personality could turn like that?
It was a release of tension. She had completed her task with the kid and by necessity has to put up a wall and ditch him there. He was distressed, she has spent the last hour catering to him and to the asshole guard, the job was finally done and no one is the better for it. It’s unhappy situation in a disgusting place.
I thought the choice of leaving the camera on the actress after she wept was an obvious one, though.
by Anonymous | reply 47 | March 23, 2025 11:15 AM
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As far as new series go it’s no The Pitt.
by Anonymous | reply 48 | March 23, 2025 2:04 PM
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Concur with the comments upthread about the actress's performance who played the mother - episode 4. The father's mind and personality, though well-played, was more expected. The mother, trying to keep it all together, not let the horrors explode all over her family, yet at the end exposing an independence and unique pain... I thought the actress was subtly powerful.
by Anonymous | reply 49 | March 23, 2025 4:18 PM
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I loved the care the dad showed toward his wife.
When they were leaving the store, after he’d splashed the paint and made a huge scene, it was sweet how he lovingly placed the plant she’d purchased inside the van.
A small moment, but despite his rage he was taking of his family.
by Anonymous | reply 50 | March 23, 2025 5:45 PM
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R50 agreed.
Even though he had a temper, he also was very sweet and loving. And his temper always had a "reason" that made his response understandable, if a bit much. I think that's important: Not everyone who has a temper is a monster. In fact, most aren't.
In our current society we tend to call anyone who has ever lied a "sociopath". Anyone who has ever bragged a "narcissist". Anyone we disagree with a "gaslighter".
And I get why: We are inundated with narcissistic sociopaths taking over a la Trump. But that causes us to over diagnosis the issue at hand.
The son IS a sociopath. The father is not. I think they did a great job of making the distinction clear, without making it obvious.
by Anonymous | reply 51 | March 24, 2025 4:46 PM
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R51 To me one of the interesting takeaways from the father's performance in episode 4 was his own ambivalence about this seething anger at his core. Class, modern life, a son who didn't measure up just as he didn't measure up to his father, his father whipping him and creating a human who wanted to fight back, all the constrictions of modern life (middle class economics, nosey neighbors, children's cyber-bulling - akin to kids laughing at him slipping in his bowling shoes)... the fire at his core was burning HIM up with no relief... his coddling the teddy bear at the end was (don't laugh) his caring for his own wounded, incomplete, raging child inside him.
by Anonymous | reply 52 | March 24, 2025 5:00 PM
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A lot of thoughtful commentary here.
I think the social worker was so shaken because he’d admitted to doing it, acknowledged his justifications and then still desperately needed her to like him. He was terrifying both in his self-awareness and complete lack of it.
The only thing I would add is, I used to work for Audible UK and practically EVERYBODY had that Jordan Peterson book in their library. I remember one time starting a discussion with a female member about meditation - I was making a recommendation based on what was in her library - and she said, very aggressively, that the meditation I was doing with Deepak Chopra was “baby food” and that I needed to start listening to Jordan Peterson. Her tone and expression were so aggressive, it was so off-putting. Another conversation with a mother who went on at length about how Jordan Peterson had saved her son with his all meat diet - I remember listening to her thinking how problematic that would be for his long-term health. Another woman, when I asked about the Jordan Peterson book saying she was open-minded and her brother recommended it with high praise and that her brother was really smart so she took an interest in it. When I think of all that combined, it really does seem like a cult: the woman who wanted to be liked by the men who liked Peterson and adopted their attitudes of disparaging others, the woman who claimed him as a saviour and the woman whose acceptance of it was based on her perception of a family member, etc. Very cult like. And those were just the women.
by Anonymous | reply 53 | March 25, 2025 3:00 AM
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I think Jay, the 13-year-old, was not hurt by his parents. Nor was he born a psychopath.
They were merely ignorant. I remember being 13 years old, boys are so fragile at age, and so are girls. Both need serious help traversing that time in their lives.
I remember Juan, who was the typical Hispanic overweight kid - think Manny in Modern Family. His father, a physician, immediately realized this would be a problem. At the age of 12, he was, over his mother's objection, put on a diet and exercise plan. When he entered the 8th grade, he was unrecognizable. After gaining the appropriate weight and muscle mass, he had private sports lessons to "at least do well enough." They had money and could afford this help. Juan's teenage years were fine-- he came from rich parents, was good-looking without fat on his face, and managed to get through PE. Juan had a variety of girlfriends, of the kind found in AP classes. (He was valedictorian, but achieved that on his own.)
Jay's parents were ashamed of their son's sports ability, sent him to a school that could not control bullying, and allowed him to get swallowed up by the Internet. Ignorance, I think. They didn't recognize the toxic environment he was in.
When I was in my 40s, my friend had a 12-year-old girl. Heidi spent most of her free time monitoring her daughter. She knew the students ran the school and the Internet had stuff her daughter should not interact with. She had a second full-time job. I thought she was exaggerating until she showed me catfishing on the Internet and a sketchy car following her daughter when she walked my pugs, Moreover, I found out that the girls switched out of school clothes into slut clothes upon arrival, to keep their parents in the dark.
Scary times, Money helps, but you have to be aware.
by Anonymous | reply 54 | March 25, 2025 4:01 AM
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The boy wanted his father and was worried what his father thought of him. In the last episode in the car when he was talking to his father and finds out his mother and sister were there he doesn't say anything to them. I think that was to show his incel/misogynistic attitude.
by Anonymous | reply 55 | March 25, 2025 4:31 AM
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The same screenwriter also wrote Toxic Town, which is also new on Netflix in my region.
by Anonymous | reply 56 | March 25, 2025 1:47 PM
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The writer of the drama was on TV this morning in the UK, he said that he is completely overwhelmed by the reaction to the show and its success. He did say that there was no trickery involved in the filming, it is one long shot. I haven watched it yet.
by Anonymous | reply 57 | March 25, 2025 10:31 PM
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Toxic Town has that actress (White Lotus) with the horrendous teeth.
by Anonymous | reply 58 | March 25, 2025 10:42 PM
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I think the terms sociopath and psychopath are overused these days. Not everyone that kills is one of those. Jamie was fucked up but we don’t get enough information to diagnose him - I actually find this more scary, how can someone get to be lost and do such an horrible thing without a condition that somehow makes it simpler and inevitable.
by Anonymous | reply 59 | March 25, 2025 11:04 PM
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I don’t think there was any trickery involved, but it isn’t incredibly impressive.
If I were producing it, I would’ve said that it would be impossible to get one perfect take, especially with a child actor. And then the drone camera work that they seamlessly work in.
But the format gives it this immediacy and it feels like you’re saying slices of these lives. It makes it more powerful.
by Anonymous | reply 60 | March 25, 2025 11:04 PM
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Not what I expected AT ALL.
by Anonymous | reply 61 | March 25, 2025 11:06 PM
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…but it IS incredibly impressive.
by Anonymous | reply 62 | March 25, 2025 11:11 PM
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Notice he kept saying "I didn't do anything wrong" instead of "I didn't do it"
by Anonymous | reply 63 | March 26, 2025 5:05 AM
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R3- The Bearded cop in episode one is SO hot 🥵.
by Anonymous | reply 64 | March 26, 2025 5:07 AM
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They shot each episode up to 15 times before deciding on the take they'd use. The drone footage was part of the single take as they attached the camera to a drone in one move. There were 300 school kids on set at one point.
It's an extraordinary achievement.
by Anonymous | reply 65 | March 26, 2025 5:15 AM
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It's recommended watching for teenagers by various educators and psychologists.
by Anonymous | reply 66 | March 26, 2025 6:55 AM
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You could see the limitations of the one take format in the second episode - mimed fight scenes, dodgy acting in minor parts - but it was by far the most horrifying for me.
I have seen other shows with a creepy kid, and a powerful interrogation - what made episode 2 special was how the kid manages to maintain concentration for the fluctuations in his character for the full hour.
But I haven’t seen a TV that shows how accurately depicts how schools operate on a knife-edge of civility. The film If… does it. But Adolescence depicts a for all intents and purposes a “nice” suburban school and at the same time how bereft of funding, patience, skills and leadership it is. The teachers are useless. The children teenagers abominable. Now that’s real. It look me straight back to my school in the 90s.
by Anonymous | reply 67 | March 26, 2025 7:39 AM
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The kid gives an amazing performance.
by Anonymous | reply 68 | March 26, 2025 3:45 PM
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What was with the guard with the pitted face who kept talking to the psychologist in the 3rd episode?
by Anonymous | reply 69 | March 26, 2025 7:39 PM
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R69 He was there to step in if things got nasty. Also to show how Jamie had no respect for women, and would only listen when a man got involved.
by Anonymous | reply 70 | March 26, 2025 7:55 PM
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OP = worse than Andrew Tate
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 71 | March 26, 2025 8:00 PM
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R70, R69 is talking about the creepy guard who showed the social worker assessor Jamie's fight on the prison's CCTV system.
He keeps talking to her when she's obviously trying to concentrate or gather her thoughts. Her body language clearly says that she doesn't want to interact with him. But he either doesn't get it or ignores it. It's kind a more subtle version of some of Jamie's behaviors. The man thinks he's entitled to attention from the woman, in the form of conversation. At one point, he stands outside the door and stares at her. At one point, he creeps up on her, and she's startled that that his voice is suddenly so close.
by Anonymous | reply 73 | March 26, 2025 8:44 PM
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That actor was completely fearless in appearing so slimy.
by Anonymous | reply 74 | March 26, 2025 8:49 PM
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In Ep 3 we learn she has already had more meetings with Jamie than the other therapist. I think she entered the session liking Jamie, appreciating his considerable charm and intelligence. At a couple of points he refers to himself as ugly, whereas he is a handsome kid, small and thin (was this part of the original script that they left in despite the actor’s looks or are we meant to think he believes he is ugly because of the bullying?)
But twice he reveals considerable rage directed at her. I think she cries at the end out of relief, yes, but also deep sadness — Jamie is going to have the book thrown at him, and it might destroy him, will certainly destroy his charm and what’s left of his innocence and she will have to be an instrument of that happening by means of her own recommendations. That’s heavy. And tragic.
I always thought British kids were more polite and nicer than ours, but I was disabused of that in ep 2.
And though that school looked like a hellhole, so did the high schools in “Up the Down Staircase” (1967) and “Blackboard Jungle” (1955). This has always been endemic to overcrowded urban schools. Somehow kids who want to learn, or have a spark struck by a sensitive teacher, will learn despite everything.
by Anonymous | reply 75 | March 26, 2025 9:11 PM
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But, R75, the school in Adolescence isn’t even in an urban area. It’s in a town, not a city. Which makes its zoo-like environment even more unsettling,
by Anonymous | reply 76 | March 26, 2025 9:19 PM
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I was thinking of watching this but it seems that it's simplifying alot of these cases as "toxic masculinity" and blaming boys and young men for not buying into the feminist "Patriarchy hurts men too" discourse.
by Anonymous | reply 77 | March 26, 2025 10:24 PM
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R77 Yep, there's that theme... more pointing to the menace to society of young males attracted and enamored to digital influencers like the smarmy Jordan Peterson and rapey-thug Andrew Tate. "Feminist hegemony" is in your mind, not the authors.
Also, there is great complexity and nuance in the direction and acting. Some of the best child acting in years.
by Anonymous | reply 78 | March 26, 2025 10:31 PM
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R78 Jordan Peterson is "dangerous" now? Dear lord, do people even bother looking at what the source is saying? And not whats just regurgated by certain media. No teen is paying attention to Peterson either. He's boring and philosophical and rambles on about scriptures. Andrew Tate IS a piece of shit misogynist. But honestly even the most pathetic of incels know it.
by Anonymous | reply 79 | March 26, 2025 10:36 PM
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[quote]I think the terms sociopath and psychopath are overused these days.
Exactly. BTW, notice how everyone is a narcissist?
People are mean. Some people I have met enjoy being mean to those who cannot fight back. Some bosses (my own and others') see the ability to be mean to their subordinates as a perk of the job. I am not kidding. They have to take it, or they can leave. A woman I know got a postman fired for a minor thing that is against their policy. My mother asked, "Why did you do that? It was probably a mistake." She answered, "To be mean."
And children/teenagers can be so mean. Today, social media validates extreme responses to meanness. With a lack of adult authority, violence emerges. Some people I have talked to believe Katie deserved it. As in, finally someone put the mean girls in their place.
by Anonymous | reply 80 | March 26, 2025 10:41 PM
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I believe Jordan Peterson's book is mentioned in the series.
Have you paid attention to Peterson in recent years, since COVID? He has become a right wing troll, even in his Canadian tweeds? Dangerous? He isn't, the ideas fertilized by him, yeah.
by Anonymous | reply 81 | March 26, 2025 10:42 PM
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Public school teacher, 35 years, 5 of it in middle school. Most adults have little idea of the intense social world of young teens, they live on their phones. A whole world of references and influencers, interacting on their phones as frequently as in person. The content they consume is sexualized, filled with porn and people like the Tate brothers who are abusive misogynist role models for young teens. Their role models are these online male trolls extolling their super masculine lifestyles, entertainers who embody equally perverse presentations of femininity/femalehood. Music, videos, film, images all bombarding them with stimulation when their emotional/neurological development is bathed in puberty. It is amazing how many kids pass through this and somehow emerge without real trauma and damage
It is very possible for a child to have caring parents and a decent home life and somehow get lost in the stew.
by Anonymous | reply 82 | March 26, 2025 10:42 PM
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R81 so slightly conservative is the same as raging misogynist causing violence towards women?
What ideas about women does he teach that are dangerous to us?
by Anonymous | reply 83 | March 26, 2025 10:45 PM
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I taught middle school for 18 years before quitting 2 years ago and that episode just brought back so many unwelcome feelings. It was too realistic. The dad/detective describing it as a “holding pen” says it all.
by Anonymous | reply 84 | March 27, 2025 3:13 AM
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I just finished all episodes in one night.
All of the children in that school should be locked up in a basement, chained to a radiator. My goodness.. The feralness of it all.
Fantastic acting. Episode 4 was particularly touching.
The little murderer is, indeed, an incorrigible mysogynist. I understand parents cannot control what their children consume online 24/7 -- and the father was proud for never laying a hand on his children. But in the words of the late Patsy Ramsey, formerly of Boulder, CO: Spare the rod, spoil the child!!
by Anonymous | reply 85 | March 28, 2025 12:27 AM
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R85 : Is this really the thread in which to share your caning fetish?
by Anonymous | reply 86 | March 28, 2025 3:21 AM
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Actually, it’s “spare the rod, spoil the child, but don’t let it fester”
by Anonymous | reply 87 | March 28, 2025 4:22 AM
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I second an earlier poster who remarked on the thoughtfulness of many of the comments in this thread. In my opinion, this is one of the best recent DL threads. I don’t really have much to add beyond what’s already been stated but I did like how episode 2 ended, with the detective dad making time to just hang out with his son.
by Anonymous | reply 88 | March 30, 2025 7:27 PM
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I hope the attention paid to [bold]Adolescence[/bold] will cause people to check out Stephen Graham's earlier collaboration with director Philip Barantini, the feature film [bold]Boiling Point[/bold] from 2021. Also shot in a single take, it is set on a particularly stressful night at a trendy London restaurant.
Both Graham & Barantini were also involved in a non-single take, 4-episode follow-up series, but I didn't find that nearly as good as the original film.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 89 | March 30, 2025 8:24 PM
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Am I the only one who didn’t know Stephen Graham was mixed race?
by Anonymous | reply 90 | March 31, 2025 3:49 PM
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R69, r70, r73, I took him to be a pretty miserable guy working in a pretty miserable place doing a job he admittedly hates. He's just stuck there, waiting out his time. He never thought his life would turn out that way. And here comes this young, female psychologist, and she gets to come in and leave whenever she wants to and is in charge of her own "independence" and all of that makes it even more clear to the guard that he's essentially neutered by his life choices and career.
by Anonymous | reply 92 | April 18, 2025 12:39 PM
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r90 Only his grandfather was Jamaican and I don't think octaroons are considered mixed race anymore. He did however suffer racist abuse at school because of said grandfather.
by Anonymous | reply 93 | April 18, 2025 1:05 PM
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After a fantastic first episode, it really falls off. Disappointing writing with good acting overall.
by Anonymous | reply 94 | April 18, 2025 1:12 PM
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Totally disagree. You are more accustomed to 911 and the Real Housewives, maybe?
by Anonymous | reply 95 | April 18, 2025 1:31 PM
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R94 = a simpleton, a plebeian
by Anonymous | reply 96 | April 18, 2025 2:03 PM
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I see what r94 means. The pure suspense and realism of the first episode lead me to believe it would be more of the same in the next three episodes; but they all had their own specific flavour. In content, thereafter, it covered more familiar ground (in terms of psychological UK crime dramas) than I was expecting.
by Anonymous | reply 97 | April 18, 2025 2:56 PM
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[qupte] Only his grandfather was Jamaican and I don't think octaroons are considered mixed race anymore. He did however suffer racist abuse at school because of said grandfather.
You sound weird. Octoroon is an American, not to mention racist and outdated, term which has no relevance to Stephen Graham who considers himself mixed race; and is 1/4 black.
by Anonymous | reply 98 | April 22, 2025 7:09 AM
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I watched it and thought it was very good. However, I had to listen very carefully because they sounded like they were swallowing their tongues.
by Anonymous | reply 99 | April 22, 2025 7:32 AM
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Ashley is FOINE and an amazing grime MC.
I'm on the third episode with the child psychologist, and I'm starting to struggle. I wish they hadn't revealed the killer so early. I mean...I get it but that element is gone.
He drew the long straw because I recall him saying that his siblings have darker skin.
by Anonymous | reply 100 | April 22, 2025 12:29 PM
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R100 I agree. I criticized the show for losing momentum earlier in this thread and was insulted by others.
by Anonymous | reply 102 | April 22, 2025 12:36 PM
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[quoteIt is really really good. I watched the first episode and it honestly upset me so much I had to put it down.
Oh my god, you had the entire show euthanized? I didn’t even know that was POSSIBLE!
by Anonymous | reply 103 | April 24, 2025 3:42 AM
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Okay, I was wrong. I just finished the third episode and got sucked back in. How is a 14-year-old a better actor than half of Hollywood? That kid better win SOMETHING.
Fortunately, it's ONLY four episodes.
by Anonymous | reply 104 | April 24, 2025 9:56 AM
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[quote]How is a 14-year-old a better actor than half of Hollywood?
Even more amazing when you consider that this was Owen Cooper's first acting job and that episode 3 was the first one filmed. According to Netflix, they ended up using the 11th take, which was done on the 5th day of filming.
More episode 3 trivia: When Jamie yawns, it wasn't scripted, and Erin Doherty improvised "Am I boring you?" Likewise, later in the episode, when she says "Facebook" instead of "Instagram", he improvised his response. In both cases, he doesn't break character or miss a beat. Phenomenal skill in someone so young.
by Anonymous | reply 105 | April 24, 2025 2:44 PM
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[quote]When Jamie yawns, it wasn't scripted, and Erin Doherty improvised "Am I boring you?"
Oh come on, it’s not that inspired a response!
by Anonymous | reply 106 | April 25, 2025 10:46 PM
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Without the 1 take gimmick, Adolescence is conventional.
by Anonymous | reply 107 | August 3, 2025 7:34 AM
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It’s not at all, but thanks for playing.
by Anonymous | reply 108 | August 3, 2025 10:18 AM
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