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HENRY WILLSON THREAD III - Hollywood studs who were young, dumb and full of cum

Continue the discussion here. Link to previous thread...

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by Anonymousreply 85April 26, 2025 7:42 PM

From the previous thread:

[quote]He’s fairly tubby there, compared to later years. He did Julius Caesar early on, but I doubt that was this.

[quote]Sure that’s him?

It's Heston in the low budget "Julius Caesar" (1950). The movie is on YT. The scene is at the 4:56 mark.

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by Anonymousreply 1March 13, 2025 5:36 PM

Charlton '41

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by Anonymousreply 2March 13, 2025 5:48 PM

[quote]Woody Strode (sounds almost Willson-esque, right?) was a hot piece of ass who aged exceptionally well.

Black don't crack

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by Anonymousreply 3March 13, 2025 5:52 PM

Keep going, Henry!

by Anonymousreply 4March 13, 2025 6:02 PM

Could deMille's TEN COMMANDMENTS (56) be the film that has the most Willson studs in it?

by Anonymousreply 5March 13, 2025 6:30 PM

The Chapman Report has two that I know of. If Ray Danton was a Willson boy, that's three.

by Anonymousreply 6March 13, 2025 6:52 PM

Ray was *all* man.

by Anonymousreply 7March 13, 2025 6:56 PM

Clint Walker said it was another Henry, Henry Wilcoxon, who took a liking to him and arranged a meeting with Cecil B. DeMille for that bit part in "The Ten Commandments," AND helped him land the "Cheyenne" role at Warner Bros.

Here's Wilcoxon with Walker in the back, under Wilcoxon's elbow.

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by Anonymousreply 8March 13, 2025 7:16 PM

Clint Walker was born Norman Walker. Henry Wilson renamed him 'Jet Norman' but when he signed with Warner Bros, Jack Warner wanted to rename him Clint. Walker agreed as long as he could use his real surname.

by Anonymousreply 9March 13, 2025 7:26 PM

Peter Brown (a Willson boy?) was in an episode of Cheyenne that aired on cable yesterday called "Pocketful of Stars," and there were several scenes where his banter, chemistry and eye contact with Clint Walker was so strong that I could easily imagine Peter mounting that big stud and riding him 'til the cows came home.

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by Anonymousreply 10March 13, 2025 8:16 PM

[quote]Could deMille's TEN COMMANDMENTS (56) be the film that has the most Willson studs in it?;'t

I wasn't counting.

by Anonymousreply 11March 13, 2025 8:49 PM

banana

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by Anonymousreply 12March 13, 2025 10:15 PM

Chad Everett was so hot in his scene in The Chapman Report. Someone in the previous thread said he projected anger when she seduced him and then brushed him off, but I think he seemed more horny/dejected.

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by Anonymousreply 13March 14, 2025 3:29 AM

Chad Everett had a proper death.

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by Anonymousreply 14March 14, 2025 6:20 AM

R8 for just a moment looking at that picture I though Nina Foch on the left was standing on her knees like Jose Ferrer as Lautrec.

by Anonymousreply 15March 14, 2025 4:21 PM

I forgot about Henry Wilcoxon - that old fag.

by Anonymousreply 16March 14, 2025 4:28 PM

I just discovered last night that Chad Everett is known for a 1972 interview where he mentioned something misogynistic about "owning" his wife and Lily Tomlin, who was on the panel, was so incensed by his comment that she got up and walked off the set. Chad tried to recover by yelling for her to come back out, but she didn't.

by Anonymousreply 17March 14, 2025 5:15 PM

Chad did a pretty good cover of Bill WIthers's "Ain't No Sunshine."

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by Anonymousreply 18March 14, 2025 5:16 PM

Lots of Willson's boys sang as well as acted - Everett, Bob Fuller, Clint Walker...

by Anonymousreply 19March 14, 2025 5:18 PM

He made them sing for their supper, so to speak.

by Anonymousreply 20March 14, 2025 5:21 PM

[quote]Lots of Willson's boys sang as well as acted - Everett, Bob Fuller, Clint Walker...

Bob Conrad does a most soulful rendition of I've Got a Crush on You on Hawaiian Eye.

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by Anonymousreply 21March 14, 2025 5:34 PM

R17, Chad Everett enraged women's groups with comments he made on the Dick Cavett Show:

"I have three horses and three dogs... and a wife.... She's the most beautiful animal I own."

In a later interview, when asked to comment on the outrage, he doubled down with more sexist remarks:

"The thing I most enjoy about women's lib is the bras being gone and the great exposure of pulchritude. I'd like to see more of that type of lady speaking for equal rights."

He further offered his opinion on the sharing of household and child-rearing work:

"It's ridiculous. A woman shares in the income of her man by giving a cleaning service. It's honorable work. Wives aren't slaves or prisoners."

by Anonymousreply 22March 14, 2025 6:32 PM

Nobody more studly than Henry Wilcoxon as Marc Antony in de Mille's 1934 CLEOPATRA opposite Claudette Colbert.

Was he gay? His career never really got going after that star-making role (though he worked constantly).

by Anonymousreply 23March 14, 2025 6:39 PM

Did Robert Fuller ever use his Laramie fame to make any 1960s films? Even Beach Blanket Bingo type films?

by Anonymousreply 24March 14, 2025 6:40 PM

Emergency! Duh

by Anonymousreply 25March 14, 2025 7:08 PM

R24, after "Laramie" ended in '63, Fuller jumped into another Revue Studios / Universal Television western series, "Wagon Train," which ended in '65. After that he landed the lead in "Incident at Phantom Hill" and took the Steve McQueen role in "Return of the Seven," opposite Yul Brynner. Neither of them set his movie career on fire and he was back doing television.

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by Anonymousreply 26March 14, 2025 7:18 PM

[quote]Did Robert Fuller ever use his Laramie fame to make any 1960s films?

He did several films throughout his career. His '60s films are INCIDENT AT PHANTOM HILL, RETURN OF THE SEVEN, and WHATEVER HAPPENED TO AUNT ALICE? The latter is a fave of mine - it's one of those psycho biddy movies with the crazy old lady villain.

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by Anonymousreply 27March 14, 2025 7:19 PM

Mmm...meat.

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by Anonymousreply 28March 14, 2025 8:42 PM

[quote] Hodiak was one of Gilmore's idols and listened to his story of working with Willson. He invited him to a bbq where he met a new agent, John Darrow, but Hodiak explained that he may be asked to sleep with him. Darrow was a diminutive but masculine man and he became Gilmore's sugar daddy for a while.

Eventually Darrow grew tired of supporting Gilmore and vice versa. He set Gilmore up with an apartment in Beverly Hills and a '47 Jaguar sedan along with a closet-full of tailored suits but it turns out Gilmore was a better writer than an actor and he was soon back to wearing leather jackets and riding a motorcycle. He's gone now but his book "Laid Bare - A Memoir of Wrecked Lives and the Hollywood Death Trip" was a mega gossipfest of the Henry Willson era. From his experience as James Dean's boyfriend the book takes your through his affair with Jane Fonda and other 50s-60s stars. I love the book and recommend it.

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by Anonymousreply 29March 14, 2025 8:47 PM

Gilmore spends a lot of time putting down Jack Simmons, a minor actor and "notorious faggot" (according to Gilmore) who replaced Gilmore as Jimmy Dean's boyfriend/slave. He got Simmons a part in "Rebel" and did a G.E. Theater episode with him (and Ronald Reagan!) called PeeWee back in '54.

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by Anonymousreply 30March 14, 2025 9:08 PM

Dean was always the slave

by Anonymousreply 31March 14, 2025 9:36 PM

[quote]Could deMille's TEN COMMANDMENTS (56) be the film that has the most Willson studs in it?

Maybe. "The Ten Commandments" had Willson clients John Derek, Clint Walker, Touch Connors, and Robert Fuller.

by Anonymousreply 32March 14, 2025 9:45 PM

The ones I think were most likely to let Wilson suck the off and maybe eat their asses are:

1. Clint Walker

2. Van Williams

3. Chad Everett

4. Rock Hudson.

by Anonymousreply 33March 14, 2025 10:25 PM

R33, according to biographer, Robert Hofler, it was Willson who was doing the fucking and receiving oral. It was a power thing to have these hot hunks on their knees or bent over for a job.

by Anonymousreply 34March 14, 2025 10:36 PM

Gilmore was also very negative toward Bill Bast in his book.

by Anonymousreply 35March 14, 2025 10:36 PM

[quote]Bast describes Dean in a compassionate light; how they met at UCLA, shared an apartment in Santa Monica, dated the same woman, and had a sexual relationship.

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by Anonymousreply 36March 14, 2025 10:43 PM

Is there a comparable figure in today's Hollywood? Who finds all the hot guys for CW?

by Anonymousreply 37March 14, 2025 11:18 PM

Dean gives Gilmore a glimmer of hope that he still cares when they meet up again at Googies in Hollywood and Dean takes him for a ride in the Porsche he bought with movie money. He grabs Gilmore's left hand and puts it on his crotch, moving it along with his to shift gears as they tear down Sunset Blvd. But Gilmore's hopes are dashed when he realizes the hated Jack Simmons has taken his place.

by Anonymousreply 38March 15, 2025 12:27 AM

One wonders how long James Dean's career would have lasted in Hollywood before he exposed himself. Dying young was a terrific career move.

by Anonymousreply 39March 15, 2025 1:34 AM

Were those men particularly slutty, R33?

by Anonymousreply 40March 15, 2025 1:43 AM

Haha, R18, my siblings and I still chuckle about that cover, and they target me because at the time I had a hopeless crush on Chad. We saw it live on TV--was it on Glen Campbell, Flip Wilson, or Sonny & Cher? One of those variety shows.

by Anonymousreply 41March 15, 2025 2:20 AM

Lily Tomlin is just the best woman to judge what goes on in a heterosexual marriage. Chad and his wife had a running gag, long before this show, that he "owned" and she could never leave him. It was a couple's joke between them. Maybe he shouldn't have shared it but there was no malice(surprisingly with Chad) in his telling of it. They were married for 45 years. They were a death did them part couple. Plus it didn't hurt that she was a stunningly beautiful woman.

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by Anonymousreply 42March 15, 2025 2:29 AM

[quote]Lily Tomlin is just the best woman to judge what goes on in a heterosexual marriage.

I remember seeing that show and Chad wasn't at his best. It was probably in the way he worded the story. But what he said about how his wife likes being taken care of by a man and has no desire to be taken care of by a woman was kind of a low blow. Plus he looks like he's halfway on the road to shitfaced.

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by Anonymousreply 43March 15, 2025 3:13 AM

John Gilmore was quite the looker, wasn't he? He looks like a composite of a lot of the guys in this thread.

Looks like Gardner McKay could be his Daddy in this shot with Susan Oliver.

I know Gardner could be my Daddy anytime.

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by Anonymousreply 44March 15, 2025 5:38 AM

I can only think Chad was intentionally trying to rile Lily up. One can only wonder what the green room atmosphere was like before they both appeared before Cavett.

by Anonymousreply 45March 15, 2025 12:19 PM

Gilmore is most visible - movie wise - as one of the crew members in the film version of Voyage To The Bottom of the Sea.

I think this is him in the second row behind the front guy's shoulder.

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by Anonymousreply 46March 15, 2025 2:26 PM

Laramie is on, a season 3 color episode. It looks like Fuller and Smith had to be sewn into their pants.

by Anonymousreply 47March 15, 2025 4:27 PM

Lily just needed some good cock.

by Anonymousreply 48March 15, 2025 4:44 PM

John Gilmore was a good writer but he couldn't keep an acting career going even when he was fucking his agent and whoever looked like he might further his career. But after Darrow dropped him, he was blackballed because of his arrogance and condescending manner. He also attached himself lamprey-like to any former A-List star who looked at him twice. His Jimmy Dean connection worked especially well in Paris where they idolized him. He reminds me a little of Frank Langella in his book "Dropped Names. And like Langella, he gets some good stories out of these brief encounters, whether it's sucking Jane Fonda's toes or kissing Brigitte Bardot in a stairwell.

by Anonymousreply 49March 15, 2025 6:03 PM

I don't think Lily Tomlin was a raging woke feminist. Lily was a big star. Everett was plastered in that clip and his arrogance finally set her off. Even then, she acted more hurt than angered by his remarks and decided to remove herself rather than engage. Smart move. And his homophobic remark was just plain uncalled for.

by Anonymousreply 50March 15, 2025 6:15 PM

Was Don Murray considered beefcake? I found him so sexy in Bus Stop.

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by Anonymousreply 51March 15, 2025 6:24 PM

John Gilmore was a handsome man, but he had this hilarious signature pose where he lowered his chin and looked up at the camera, I guess to appear smoldering and sexy. It's a pose he continued to use consistently in portraits well into middle age and beyond. Did he learn this from James Dean or vice versa?

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by Anonymousreply 52March 15, 2025 6:51 PM

Isn't that the same pose that Lauren Bacall used when she was first introduced to movie audiences?

by Anonymousreply 53March 15, 2025 6:54 PM

haha. Lauren Gilmore.

by Anonymousreply 54March 15, 2025 6:56 PM

R52 So that’s where Froy got the idea?!

by Anonymousreply 55March 15, 2025 7:19 PM

Was cosmetics magnate, Kevin Gilmore John's father?

by Anonymousreply 56March 16, 2025 10:55 PM

Excuse me, r56?

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by Anonymousreply 57March 16, 2025 11:34 PM

I just found out that Laramie is on the INSP channel. Two episodes every morning at 9 a.m. and 10 a.m.

Robert Fuller is Jess and John Smith is Slim.

And their jeans are even tighter than they look in the pictures here. Watching them walk away from the camera is hypnotizing - and when they come toward the camera we focus in on their belt buckles.

Then of course it's nice to see them getting on and off their horses.

Good job, Henry!

by Anonymousreply 58March 26, 2025 5:09 PM

I watched Pal Springs Weekend on TCM today - and we had Ty Hardin, Troy Donahue, and Robert Conrad (not a Willson client as far as I know) - and lots of guys playing football players that I would guess came from the Willson stable.

Watching a TALL Troy playing a scene with short stuff Robert C was disconcerting.

by Anonymousreply 59March 26, 2025 9:07 PM

Suzanne Pleshette said she didn't know if Stef ever forgave her for refusing it and Stef having to replace her.

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by Anonymousreply 60March 26, 2025 9:29 PM

[quote]when they come toward the camera we focus in on their belt buckles.

Belt buckles? I hardly noticed them.

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by Anonymousreply 61March 27, 2025 12:31 AM

Even Fuller's eyes are drawn down to check out that "belt buckle."

by Anonymousreply 62March 27, 2025 11:22 AM

Smith and Fuller really filled out those jeans. And LARAMIE was clearly the precursor to BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN.

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by Anonymousreply 63March 27, 2025 9:26 PM

"Why are you up and dressed?"

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by Anonymousreply 64March 27, 2025 9:26 PM

I think one of the reasons I was so infatuated with old school Sean Cody's "Zack" was that he reminded me very much of John Smith. and I liked to think that Smith looked just as "Zack" did out of his clothes.

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by Anonymousreply 65March 28, 2025 4:24 AM

^Just a tad.

by Anonymousreply 66April 7, 2025 3:28 AM

Almost time for today's LARAMIE episode!

by Anonymousreply 67April 7, 2025 1:22 PM

They’re on season four where I am, which is great because you get to see Smith and Fuller’s assets (and other things) in full living color.

by Anonymousreply 68April 7, 2025 1:27 PM

Now that I've been watching Laramie for a couple a weeks, I noticed something interesting.

The first time I saw it I thought it was unintentional - but it has happened at least once in 4 of the last 5 episodes I saw.

Slim or Jess go into a room in a house or a cabin or saloon. And there is a mirror on the wall. Whoever is the star of that episode stands facing the camera and his backside in reflected in the mirror.

by Anonymousreply 69April 7, 2025 9:21 PM

Cool observation, R69. I'll have to look for it.

by Anonymousreply 70April 7, 2025 9:44 PM

The DP was Assman!

by Anonymousreply 71April 7, 2025 10:45 PM

Indeed he was. In the episode today, Bob Fuller’s phat ass was the star of several scenes.

by Anonymousreply 72April 7, 2025 10:48 PM

Watched The Chapman Report last night and was gobsmacked by the beauty of Ray Danton and Willson boys Chad Everett and Ty Hardin.

by Anonymousreply 73April 7, 2025 10:50 PM

[quote]The Chapman Report last night and was gobsmacked by the beauty of Ray Danton...

Mitts off, r73.

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by Anonymousreply 74April 7, 2025 11:03 PM

Oh brother! On the second LARAMIE episode this morning who should walk in in the second act and start stinking up the place but Jeannette Nolan.

She's an ugly non-actress who spoils everything she is in (one exception THE BIG HEAT). Very distracting when she appears.

I'm sure she has her fans.....and her son Tim McIntire has long been rumored to have been fathered by Orson Welles.

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by Anonymousreply 75April 9, 2025 3:37 PM

Oh please, r75, Jeanette was a fine, chew-the-scenery school actress.

by Anonymousreply 76April 9, 2025 3:49 PM

[quote]She's an ugly non-actress

And, r75, she was quite attractive.

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by Anonymousreply 77April 9, 2025 3:52 PM

The two Wilson boys, I'm assuming they both were, or just Wilson adjacent boys that had the most talent were Fuller and Chad. Fuller could have definitely gone on to bigger roles. Alas it wasn't to be. Fuller still looks modern.

by Anonymousreply 78April 9, 2025 3:53 PM
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by Anonymousreply 79April 9, 2025 3:58 PM

[quote]her son Tim McIntire has long been rumored to have been fathered by Orson Welles.

I always though he looked nothing like Jon McIntire.

by Anonymousreply 80April 9, 2025 4:36 PM

Did he grow up to be an obese drunk?

by Anonymousreply 81April 9, 2025 4:41 PM

I noticed his stocky build and nice ass when he guest starred in an episode of Wagon Train, when his father had taken over the lead role.

by Anonymousreply 82April 9, 2025 5:12 PM

What does everyone think of Fess Parker? He wasn't a Willson boy, but he was as tall as Chuck Connors/Clint Walker/James Arness and showed a nice bulge and ass in those tights-like pants on DANIEL BOONE.

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by Anonymousreply 83April 26, 2025 7:09 PM

FYI the first two threads were over 90% comments from OP himself. Unreal shit.

by Anonymousreply 84April 26, 2025 7:24 PM

These guys made today's actors look like wimps.

by Anonymousreply 85April 26, 2025 7:42 PM
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