I want to talk about the Jon Lovett & Ronan Farrow breakup

[quote] I’m sorry but this was the most dramatic breakup in history

Rolls eyes.

By the way that’s me, Vera Farmiga, at R1.

You sound like a hyperventilating school girl.

R1 I mean in context of the circumstances. They act like they cannot even acknowledge each other. Crooked Media (Jon’s company) will not mention the content of an article if Ronan wrote it. That is crazy.

If they don’t want people to ask about it they should just say they broke up, shit happens, and stop acting like it’s state secrets.

There were some gossipy threads about the breakup that might've been deleted. The loudest rumor was that Jon violated the terms of their sexual agreement with the younger employee he later unveiled as his new partner.

You can certainly post, but it doesn’t mean we have to care one iota. Are there people that invested in them?

I used to die laughing when Jon would do the "yeah, that's the ticket" skit.

R5 that’s possible and would make sense but he is engaged to that person now so I guess it worked out. And you can’t really complain that much if someone finds a partner they like better in the course of what was presumably an open relationship…that is the risk you take. Just my opinion!

They were open tho? I had a friend who was hit on by Ronan.

Man, Vera Farmiga was great in that role!

Ronan had his sexts to some other random guy published in the National Enquirer and they didn’t break up over that so I have to assume the relationship was open to some extent.

[quote]They were open tho? I had a friend who was hit on by Ronan.

Yes, they were open (a DLer or two claimed to have hooked up with Ronan via apps), but they had rules. One was not bringing fuck buddies into the house, or something like that, which Jon disregarded.

Ronan was gangbanged by a bunch of Brazilian guys

oh, they broke up?

okay.

R12 I get why Ronan is singing his country songs in that case, but imo it is an unreasonable rule. You cannot prevent someone from forming an emotional attachment to someone else by dictating where they can fuck. As he found out.

r13 good for him if so, what else are you supposed to do if your highly publicized engagement ends because your fiancé traded you in for someone else

[quote] Ronan wrote a damn book about it and asked Jon to factcheck it and he did

Was it as boring as everything else he does?

R17 it was actually psychologically interesting because people usually do not portray themselves as a needy self-centered boyfriend in their own book and then propose to them at the end of it

Propose to their partner, that is.

I guess to some degree they expect their privacy to be recognized but the fact remains that MIA IS BITCH!

Ronan may have seen a mature father figure in Jon Lovitz and was profoundly devastated to be let down yet again. Especially so sexually intimately. I can understand being obsessed with lost love. That he participated in SNL 50 had to have been another blow, politically.

What is the book called?

Jon Lovitz and Jon Lovett are two very different people lmao

I don’t think you’re off track with the daddy issues thing though.

Don't know Jon Lovett but with a face like that I'd say Ronan's lucky

R22 CATCH AND KILL. It is primarily about the investigation into Harvey Weinstein and the behind the scenes of NBC attempting to shut down Ronan’s efforts to break the story but there is also a subplot about his relationship with Jon.

I don’t think Jon really wanted to be in it, but he is part of the story since he contributed important advice to the investigation and witnessed a lot of things.

Jon is very average looking.

Jon found Ronan in bed with Mia. You just know boundaries are nonexistent in THAT relationship.

R24 that’s an old and not flattering picture. He’s hotter now. And Ronan while beautiful in his way, is kind of odd looking. It wasn’t an odd couple on that level.

The Woody stan trolls have found this thread as I knew they would.

[QUOTE] that’s an old and not flattering picture. He’s hotter now.

Oh yeah? Prove it.

R30 he has a weekly podcast on YouTube, it is not hard to find out what he looks like.

Anyway that is not the point, DL thinks everyone is ugly. Someone will be in here in 5 seconds to say Ronan is ugly too. They were together 10 years and did not break up over looks.

R26 so was Ronan before the surgeon’s knife and Wella blond turned him into a Sinatra.

Sinatra wasn’t blond and he’s not Sinatra’s kid. He looks like Mia.

I’m not sure Jon fucking his employee was the cause of the breakup. He might be lying but he said that was a new relationship that got together right before he went on SURVIVOR last year and that’s way after him and Ronan broke up. And he was fucking some other comedian on his show before that.

Ronan gets around himself so even if this was a cause for breakup they don’t have to act so hostile toward each other.

The real problem was that Ronan was in the closet for most of that relationship. If you’re hiding someone they will always feel resentful on some level. See also why Richard Madden’s boyfriends keep leaving him.

Ronan is nearly identical to Mia's father (when he was younger of course)

R36 even more so I would say he’s a dead ringer for Mia’s brother Mike who died in the Army when he was young.

I don’t think he’s Frank’s, because they do not appear to have had a relationship despite the fact that Mia remained friendly and in regular contact with Frank over the years. Frank strikes me as the kind of patriarchal guy who would want to have some relationship with his kid if he thought he had one. I also believe the Sinatra family’s claim that he had a vasectomy because if he hadn’t, he fucked around so much there would probably be a lot more than one illegitimate kid out there.

Actually the one reason I thought Ronan might be Frank’s is that one time Jane Fonda went on Lovett’s show and said flat out “your boyfriend looks like Frank” and Lovett laughed. He must know the truth, if Ronan knows himseld.

Personally though I believe the Mike Nichols donor paternity theory which was formed by the great minds here at DL.

[quote] They were open tho? I had a friend who was hit on by Ronan.

Yes, Rose, that would indicate they were open.

I also concur Jon had to be the one that strayed from whatever agreement they had because Ronan was acting unhinged after they broke up. Literally dressed like Princess Diana and was thirst trapping like crazy.

Jon’s fans are convinced Ronan was the one that cheated though. Which doesn’t really make any sense.

And whatever happened, happened suddenly because they bought a multimillion dollar house together and then broke up like three months later which was insane. Was Jon caught fucking in the house before the boxes were unpacked?

Because Ronan forgot he's a man?

He has Frank’s eyes.

R28 Watched this podcast with Jon and Bill Maher. Jon looks like an unmade bed and he's so annoying He has zero sex appeal

Jon and Ronan have a great deal in common. They are both totally unfuckable.

Jon Lovett is gay??

Came here to post the same thing. Guess I shouldnt be surprised

Well they must be fuckable to somebody since they could not make it to the altar because they were both too busy fucking

So R7, you thought OP was talking about this guy too? Now I don't feel so stupid.

Can anyone identify Jon Lovett’s new partner? I thought it was a younger trans person. But I could be all wrong.

On a good day I would have fucked them both at the same time but according to DL reports that was against the rules!

Why was Farrow ever interested in that fat ass in the first place?

Ronan has micromeat. Not Frank's big whopping salami. Jon moved on to a big gun so he could feel something, anything.

R50 yes it is a younger trans person. They are engaged if the ring Jon is wearing is any sign which is kind of wild because it’s very fast.

Ronan also has another partner now but he will not be getting shotgun married since that guy is in the process of divorcing someone else.

Jon is himself rumored to have a big shlong which would explain a lot.

Is it a trans man or trans woman? I’m confused.

Trans man. Don’t overthink it.

So his partner has no penis. Interesting.

{quote]I want to talk about the Jon Lovett & Ronan Farrow breakup

And I want to talk about Madeline Ashton.

R58 If he wants to get pegged there are still plenty of ways and means. Welcome to the modern era.

The new thing is gay men eating trans pussy in porn, so I’m not shocked by this.

In those spaces, if you say you don’t want trans pussy you are labeled a bigot

R61 well maybe if you don’t want to hear that sort of talk you should probably stay out of participating in the comments section on trans porn that you presumably did not stumble upon by accident?

Farrow is an artificial human being, constructed out of the insanity of his demented cunt mother.

Lovett is just a fat head wanting "the life."

This thread has almost 600 replies and it’s just about every gay porn star

R64 so what you’re saying is a lot of folks are enjoying trans sex? *clutches pearls” Heaven forfend

[quote]if you say you don’t want trans pussy you are labeled a bigot

I'm a bigot, mama!

Focus less on the holes involved in the situation and focus more on whether Jon was filling those holes in the new kitchen on move-in day.

— Ronan

I hate Dylan Farrow.

Ronan finally got over his daddy issues and stopped saying the short, funny Jew.

That comparison is a bit of a stretch. Other than being Jewish comedians (a pretty broad category) Jon and Woody are not similar at all.

However…do I think the fact that Ronan had a shitty father (of record) who was verbally and physically abusive to him, blew up his family and then forced him into visitation even though they both hated each other gave him attachment and control issues that would make any subsequent relationship challenging?

Yes.

R43 he has Frank’s eyes now. As a teen he had red hair and more green eyes like Woody. He also has Woody’s brow and chin.

And let’s face it, he got his brains from somewhere.

R71 I do think there’s a small chance that he’s Woody’s although even Woody has said they had a lot of trouble conceiving and the plotline in HANNAH & HER SISTERS where his character is impotent and his wife uses a donor to get pregnant seems a bit telling.

Still, I think that’s why Ronan never opted to file for a paternity test. There is a chance he does have the Woody DNA and in that case he probably doesn’t want to know.

There’s a slim chance he’s Woody’s although it’s probably unlikely since Woody & Mia had tried for years to conceive without success. And Woody never fathered a child before or since, plus the plotline in HANNAH & HER SISTERS where his character is impotent and his wife uses a donor is telling.

Still that’s probably why Ronan never took a paternity test. If he’s got the Woody DNA he doesn’t want to know.

Lover’s new-ish romance explains why he was so passionate in the discussion of trans people with Bill Maher.

R74 my thought too. Bill Maher was in a lose lose situation.

I was surprised he bothered to invite Maher on since Maher has been misogynistic and transphobic for decades and has never admitted to being wrong in his entire life, but at least Lovett tried. Maher storming out like a baby was not a surprise.

Not surprising about male pornstars getting into trans sex. Many gay pornstars would fuck a rattlesnake as long as someone held its head.

SO WE’RE CONCLUDING:

Jon & Ronan had an open relationship but neither one of them really liked the terms & conditions. Ronan would have preferred to do things together but Jon wasn’t into that so they’d agreed on solo adventures. BUT Jon was bringing his sneaky links (including friends & employees) into the house. Ronan found out and checked into the Heartbreak Hotel.

They broke up but now can’t admit it because Jon never wanted it to be known that they had an open relationship in the first place, not because he’s against it morally but because he has a nosy Jewish family and he doesn’t need Nana calling him up asking why his fiance is in Page Six sexting with some random Brazilian guy.

Do I have this right?

R78. You seem just a tad invested.

Touch grass.

Ronan: “I thought we had something special…”

Lovett: “ACTING!”

Next week on Master Thespian…

I agree but I think it's time to retire that cliche, r79. Just call him an obsessive loser.

Is Jon already engaged again? I find it hard to believe that a 20-something would be ready for an engagement ring after less than a year of dating…. Also, starting a relationship right before you go on Survivor, where you won’t be able to contact someone, is very odd behavior. It makes me think the two lovebirds started screwing earlier, and the line that they started dating before Survivor is just what they say for HR.

[R50] the new partner is tagged in the corn dog photo

R82 The timing is definitely suspicious.

The pretty girl in the pictures becomes the weird looking young man mwho is now the bf. They look 5 feet tall max.

Not to mention a Bernie bro. Naturally.

I think Ronan got the better deal with new partners.

You rang?

[quote] I’m sorry but this was the most dramatic breakup in history.

Oh honey, it's not even close.

I would feel rotten if like a long term ex of mine ended with someone who get pregnant. Maybe that's Insecure on my part but I can imagine Ronan felt a certain way when he found out.

They’re not pregnant as far as I know. And I think that’s unlikely to happen — most people who transition are not interested in pregnancy.

They are talking about having kids though which might stick in Ronan’s craw since he wrote about in his book that they had planned to have kids together, which obviously did not happen.

He’ll be a birthing person. As long as they have her equipment it’s possible.

Some of you seem a little obsessed with reproduction but believe it or not, not everyone with a uterus automatically plans to bear children

R13 hot. Was this before or after the breakup?

It seemed like more of a fantasy idea from his National Enquirer sexts but who knows

R82 well technically that could have been when they started “dating”

Doesn’t mean they weren’t fucking way before that! My guess is this was all a poly partner swap situation

Lovett better watch his back.

We all know how those wacky Farrow cunts treat their exes.

Woody fan at R96. Mia was good friends with her two ex-husbands. She only had a problem with Woody because he, y’know, diddled her children and then tried to steal them

R97 It never held up in front of the police, the social workers, or independent child psychologists. There's a reason this accusation never saw a courtroom.

And we all know Mia was close to Frank Sinatra. Her gay little paper doll of a son is walking proof of just how close they were in the 1980s.

It didn’t see a courtroom other than the custody courtroom you mean? It’s why he got no visitation with Dylan, the custody judge believed her and could tell Woody was a creep. The prosecutor dealing with the criminal case opted not to bring charges because he knew Dylan couldn’t handle going on the stand.

That doesn’t mean he didn’t do it. He is a psychopathic narcissist and people who defend him have serious problems.

R99 It doesn’t mean he did it, either.

I’m not defending him, and I think his movies are fucking terrible. But the law is the law, and this mental case with her forty fucking kids doesn’t get to coast on public outrage just because she couldn’t nail him in court. She’s a jilted, warped person. Several of her own adopted kids have independently said so. Look what she did to poor Ronan Sinatra. She bulldozed him into having his legs artificially lengthened, because she wanted him to be tall enough for politics. The lady’s a nut.

Both parties are fucked up. But only one side is accusing the other of a heinous sexual offense. The other is off making nonsense movies about jazz and brass bands and therapists.

You can deny you’re a Woody fan all you want but you types always reveal yourself when you buy into the “Mia brainwashed Ronan into having leg lengthening surgery so that he could go into politics, a field he did not end up in”.

It’s not a plausible theory. Woody dragged Mia to court over everything involving the kids over the years, including if they had a therapist he didn’t like. And one of the few things he had control over was medical matters. I’m supposed to believe his minor son had major elective surgery without him even being aware of it? He would have interfered and publicized the story.

R95 yeah that’s kinda my feeling. I’m guessing Ronan didn’t think their open relationship included employees/dog sitters. I’m personally not opposed to open relationships, but I tend to find co-workers and friends will make it a mess. Some random dick off of sniffies or Grindr doesn’t really make a difference.

Well it all depends on the particular rules of the relationship, if you are sharing activities with friends together then perhaps that could be fine. That seems to be the relationship Ronan has with his current bf but it’s not the arrangement he had with Jon.

I suspect that the conflict between Jon and Ronan not agreeing on what kind of rules to have went back a ways. I always wondered why when the National Enquirer published Ronan’s sexts with some random guy they did not mention Jon even though they knew he was connected to Ronan, they had been following him around too. The only theory that makes sense to me is Jon was seeing someone else regularly at the time so the Enquirer folks assumed that was the primary relationship and that Jon and Ronan weren’t really together together since they lived on opposite sides of the country.

Weren't they engaged for several years, too?

And Ronan proposed not by kneeling and handing over a ring, but by writing a note in the draft of his new book and waiting for Jon to read it and respond? What kind of pretentious cumfart is that?

Ronan is a twat.

Remember when he had that flop MSNBC show, and the set prominently featured a word cloud listing all of his accomplishments?

Ronan dumped Jon when Jon started wearing skirts.

Isn’t he the guy who said GET TO KNOW ME!

It’s kind of funny his word cloud said “activist” so prominently since he makes such a bug point about how he isn’t one nowadays.

I have theories about the book proposal. One is that Ronan wanted Jon’s rapt attention for everything he did and he wasn’t getting it for this book, Jon was growing his own company at the time and he didn’t really want to be in it. So this was Ronan’s way of making him read every word since you never know, there might be something that alters your life in the track changes!

Also, I think he wanted to force Jon into a commitment he couldn’t easily back out of. “Sure” is an unenthusiastic response to a proposal and I think he only said it because he felt guilty the book was past deadline and if he’d said no Ronan would have to rewrite the whole thing. I think he regretted it pretty quickly. They hadn’t even agreed on what city they were going to live in and it’s insane to get engaged when you haven’t talked about that.

I'm surprised the son of Woody Allen and Mia Farrow would have a messy break up.

That’s why I was surprised he had managed a long term relationship in the first place.

R62 you had me at 20-something..

I don’t care much for either one of these bitches.

I mainly stop listening to Jon’s Pod Save America podcast because when he would go into a rant, he sounded like a screeching harpy. Plus, I just thought he was so damn pudgy and unattractive.

I used to follow Ronan on Instagram but I unfollowed him because I thought he was one of the most narcissistic showboats I’ve ever seen on social media, and that’s saying something.

He’s not pudgy anymore. He started taking Monjauro after the breakup. He’s a little too skinny for my tastes now but to each their own.

Ronan meanwhile became a gym rat for a while and kept posting shirtless selfies which was rather undermining to his reputation as a serious journalist but I’m sure it brought some boys to the yard.

Jon’s eyes look like bug points.

R114 He’s not a trained journalist. He used family connections and the easy internet to launch a career exposing sex-pest celebrities, and then briefly got a show on a sympathetic cable network with hours to fill in the middle of the day.

He’s as much a journalist as Glenn Beck or Judge Jeanine.

The TV show was before the Weinstein expose. He has done good work but he has not done it steadily. For example his article a couple years ago on Elon Musk being ketamine addled and in possession of too many State Department contracts was good, unfortunately people did not pay enough attention to it.

R106, the thing about the skirts that bothered me was that Jon could not style them to save his life. He looked so mismatched and uncoordinated. He also obviously did not know how to sit properly in a skirt. If you want to have a femme moment, that's fine by me, but you should at least style yourself properly; otherwise, you look like a confused mess.

Ugh, that ugly boy wears SKIRTS now? In public?

Jesus. Bring back bullying!

R118 Yeah I didn’t really understand the plain tshirts with high top sneakers & skirts look. If you want to go femme go femme but pick a lane.

That having been said the femmephobes on here who act like it’s the most offensive thing anyone has ever done annoy me…grow up or go hang out with conservative MAGA, men wear skirts around the world and it is not a big deal.

R120 It's not the skirts. It's the fact that he's so terrible at wearing them. He doesn't have the body or the fashion sense to pull it off. He just looks homely and lazy, like half a trans.

Ronan has the huge cock, not Lovitz. This is well known in (some) gay circles in NYC.

Tell us more R122. Do you have personal knowledge?

Assuming Jon is telling the truth about the length of his current relationship (which he may not be) Ronan is not going to take Jon getting married to someone he’s been with for less than a year well. They were engaged for over three years and Jon claimed they “couldn’t figure out how to plan the wedding” the whole time. Now he’s suddenly figured out the concept of hiring a wedding planner?

Zzzzzz.

He talked about the orgies with Brazilian guys rumor in his book but in a very cautious way. He was like “I wish my life was that exciting” — that is very specifically not a denial!

Does anyone know someone who’s hooked up with Lovett? I know that Ronan is very indiscreet, so there have been stories about him forever. So often the only reason people speculate that Jon is big is because Ronan is such a thirsty sizes queen. But I don’t think I’ve ever heard confirmation from someone allegedly hooking up with him.

I think he just was smarter about picking extracurricular partners and hooked up with friends (or employees!) not randoms, people who would not talk. Also, he was not publicly well known until 2018 or so and still isn’t that famous, and he has a common name, if he DID hook up with randoms they wouldn’t necessarily recognize him or think they need to go tell the Internet about it.

Jon has a lot of straight female fans who hate the concept of open relationships and so they want to think he had no partners other than Ronan and Ronan was just cheating all the time. However it is just not plausible to me that a gay man in his 30s would stay in a relationship for 10 years and then suddenly get tired of it and decide to leave if that was the case. He’s probably not as thirsty as Ronan (who is) but I don’t buy that he never strayed.

I do recall some guy on Twitter saying Jon hooked up with guys on Grindr. He didn’t share any details but I assume he was telling the truth bc he was so bitchy about it that it seemed personal

Jon wanted kids, Ronan didn’t really. That’s a bigger dealbreaker than someone fucking the housesitter or a bunch of Brazilian dudes.

R128 so a bunch fraus think jons a housewife from 1950s?

Both Ronan and the new boyfriend are on Grindr all the time. Both indicate they are partnered and one half of a couple, but each with their own profiles.

R132 not too surprising. Does the boyfriend mention that he is also married (not to Ronan)?

R131 yes, they pretty much think he was at home knitting booties and crying while Ronan was out fucking half of New York. The “dating his 20-something employee” thing has thrown them for a loop but they decided it’s true love so it’s okay

THAT'S THE TICKET!

Wait, R133? Ronan’s boyfriend is married to someone else?

R136 Yes. He’s in the process of divorce though.

Well Jon officially announced his current engagement and I gotta say the timeline he’s claiming remains suspicious. He says they supposedly “started dating” in May of last year but they moved in together basically immediately?

I’m going to assume they were together since before Jon and Ronan broke up and the supposed “housesitting” gig was actually just them living there already.

What's the point of equality if our celebrities are so goddamned dull???

Idk I think the polyamory is interesting!

But I always think it’s kind of fascinating when celebs are clearly polyamorous but pretend they aren’t for public reputation. Like Anderson Cooper “coparenting with his ex” (when they never broke up) or the Good Morning America hosts who did a couple swap with their exes

I’m sorry but I would miss a penis!

R141 you can buy those in a store…or online. Custom ordered to fit!

If it were a monogamous relationship with Thee Jon Lovitz, Ronan would have exacted revenge by dating Andy Dick.

Moving in at the start of the relationship and getting married after 10 months of dating. You can tell his new partner used to identify as a lesbian because that timeline is absolutely insane. Full U-Haul.

If you believe when they disclosed to human resources is when the relationship actually began anyway!

I can see why Lovett would move fast on this one though, so maybe he’s telling the truth about the timing. No need in repeating the mistake of letting an engagement linger on forever until it curdles like it did with Ronan. Just get it done, if it doesn’t work out divorce exists.

[quote]Moving in at the start of the relationship and getting married after 10 months of dating. You can tell his new partner used to identify as a lesbian because that timeline is absolutely insane. Full U-Haul.

And the partner didn't transition too long ago, so I'd expect a pregnancy sooner than later.

Why not just adopt? They can afford it and it will be easier as a married couple. And who wants to be pregnant in this political environment.

Lovett bought his new partner a huge diamond. If I were Ronan I’d be pissed!

I’m pregnant

I’ll spread my legs

You pull the baby out

[quote] Ronan has the huge cock, not Lovitz. This is well known in (some) gay circles in NYC.

Is this more evidence of his Sinatra parentage?

"He's only 110 pounds, but 10 pounds of it is cock!", Ava Gardner.

R150 Well, he certainly didn’t inherit anything from that nervous little pervert in the sweaters

In his engagement announcement on Lovett or Leave It, he wraps up with a statement about his happiness, but also his rage over the current climate surrounding the issue of trans people. And then he concludes with, "I'm excited to finally try sex."

I know it's meant as a laugh line, but I don't get it.

He’s saying that when guys have sex it’s not real sex like when a guy and a chick like the one he’a with now have sex. So he’s basically a bisexual homophobe.

Lovett spent ten years in the cuck chair.

It happens when you date a whore.

R153 it’s really funny because he loved to make jokes about bisexuals before. But now wouldn’t he be considered bisexual? His partner is nonbinary. Dating Men + nonbinary people = bisexual?

He doesn’t see it that way I guess.

The “I’m excited to try sex” thing is just his typical humor where he pretends he can’t get laid etc. Jewish self-deprecation thing, he does it all the time. He had a joke like that during the monkeypox scare which was confirmation he’d broken up with Ronan.

Any idea whether his partner still has a uterus? Maybe he's gotten them in a family way.

For the last month or more, in all his episodes on PSA, he appears sweaty or oily, on and about the face.

R157 I’m guessing that’s probably a Mounjaro side effect.

I think they’d be rushing the wedding a little more if they were pregnant. They don’t sound like they have much planned yet.

In the engagement interview, Lovett says that “weddings for gays and theys are an act of resistance.”

They both sound insufferable. Even though they’re New Yorkers, I bet they’re registered at Powell’s Books in Portland. I bet they’ll get an intersex NPR bot to officiate their ceremony through voice memos.

I had to roll my eyes at that particularly because he always wanted a big wedding, he said that all the time. That was his excuse for not marrying Ronan during the pandemic. At least he was honest then about it being because he enjoys attention and not because it’s a political statement.

He needs to just focus on actually picking a date and making it to the altar, this is the same mistake he made last time.

If these two are committed to the full U-Haul lesbian timeline. They will be married before 2 years have a kid before three years and divorced by year five. Lesbians have higher divorce rates for a reason. When you move so fast you’re bound to miss some red flags.

Also what’s Ronan up to besides trolling for dick on the apps?

R162 Ronan’s got a new podcast out today, “Not a Very Good Murderer”. It’s a pretty interesting story, albeit not his usual stuff. More of a true crime thing.

He also said he’s working on a book, though nobody knows what the topic is. The Johnny Depp stans at one point theorized it was about Amber Heard though I think they were just making that up in their minds, I don’t think he could get a whole book out of that topic.

And he’s been recording music (whatever one thinks of it) and teaching classes occasionally. So he’s been staying busy with more than dick.

The 15-year age difference and the fact that it would be a spectacular company-bankrupting sexual harassment lawsuit if they ever broke up are red flags enough. They may as well go on and have babies.

Hopefully Lovett’s at least got the sense to get a prenup.

R164 I have to wonder what the employees are saying about the relationship. I’m sure it’s all “love is love” and “we are so happy for you” to their faces, but I can only imagine how bitchy the gossip is behind the scenes. Any workplace I've worked where this has happened the gossip basically fuels the co-worker group chats for months.

Mia is bitch.

Well there was definitely at least one employee or ex-employee who was disgruntled about it because someone leaked the relationship to the press right after they (supposedly) started dating. Which is what makes the timeline more suspicious.

I wonder what the divorce rate looks like for people in a cis/trans coupling.

Wish them and him the best, but it's not like they make an attractive couple.

Well Jon used to say Ronan was better looking than he wanted or needed.

I don’t think he cares about looks, he wanted someone younger who hero worships him and he got it. Classic twink chaser.

I want to talk about MADELINE ASHTON!!!

R171 Marry Me!

So I've read most of the posts here, but still don't have a good feel for why Lovett & Farrow broke up. Aside from like one is a slut and the other needs to be worshipped - they were together for around 12 years making it work, what changed? Who dealt the blow? Can someone synopsize?

R173 I don’t think anyone with enough info to synopsize is actually participating in this very speculative thread.

My best, albeit low-information synopsis is that they’re both selfish assholes who didn’t love anyone enough to stop being selfish.

R173 the pandemic happened. The relationship worked for that long because it was partially long distance for all of it and that allowed them to ignore and compartmentalize the things they didn’t like about each other. Then they were together 24/7 during the pandemic and there was nowhere to hide.

There probably was some kind of straw that broke the camel’s back around the time they were supposed to move into their new house together. Either Ronan caught Jon fucking his young employee in the house or Ronan went on a post-lockdown whoring spree and Jon had had enough. Or both.

Also, the question of whether to have kids will test any relationship. Even deciding not to do it will bring up doubts about whether you actually want to be together forever. Having an open and very independent relationship where you’re living on opposite coasts for a lot of the time is great when you’re in your 20s or 30s, both very focused on career, and both have very different taste in outside partners. It will NOT work in a coparenting situation however.

Ronan never seemed to realize that which is surprising considering most of his problems in life started with the fact that his father didn’t live with them and didn’t consider himself responsible for any parenting at all.

So what I'm hearing here is that they're both egotistical little whores. The home was wrecked by the both of them.

Mia must be SO disappointed in her little golden child.

Mia apparently blamed Jon, or was at least mad at him, because she unfollowed him on social media. And they had been close. That’s how I knew it wasn’t all just Ronan’s fault.

R178 Yes, because Mia Farrow has never been one to recklessly point a finger.

R179 that’s what some of you think but there’s no evidence to support that. Mia was good friends with her two ex-husbands for their whole lives despite those being contentious divorces. She’s also good friends with some of her other kids’ exes.

In fact her whole problem with Woody was that she didn’t cut him off sooner and was way too slow to judge. He had displayed repeated and increasingly egregious behavior to both her and her kids for years prior to the Dylan incident (which she didn’t even report, Dylan’s doctor did). Unfortunately she just chalked it all up to him being badly socialized and not knowing how to deal with kids, if anything she is way too forgiving.

Point is she wouldn’t be that quick to cut Jon off, someone who had lived in her home for months during the pandemic, been a long-term fixture at family events, someone she had given one of her own dogs to! If he wasn’t at least partially to blame.

Is it common for a gay man to end up in a relationship with a trans man? Most trans men appear to be with cis women or trans women. Maybe I’m wrong.

R180 Yes, every time we see Ronan's face, we remember just how close Mia and Frank remained.

Mia is absolutely capable of one-sided cuntery. She cut off several of her own adopted children when they defied her narrative. Moses is the outspoken one, but according to him, Mia was habitually unpleasant to Lark and Thad before they died (and he alleges her emotional abuse contributed to Thad's suicide). Also, Sascha probably sealed her doom when she chose to live with her father over Mia. And Quincy, Isaiah, and Frankie-Minh have all been conspicuously unmentioned in her frequent tweets over the years.

Mia plays favorites, and her anger can be white-hot if you fuck with her. But what does one expect from someone with such a damaged childhood, so many failed adult relationships, and FOURTEEN GODDAMN CHILDREN on no income!

I'm sorry but what is this post about? I'm confused!!

I mean the real gossip is that nobody knows why and anyone that does know isn’t spreading it around.

But if I was to speculate I think it’s either something very boring like Ronan just did not want to live LA full time or Jon no longer wanted an open relationship or Jon/ronan decided he still wasn’t sure about kids.

Or it’s a little more juicy and it’s related to Jon and the employee.

R182 I’m not going to believe a word Moses says. With due respect to whatever is going on with him mentally, you have to do is watch one minute of his weird YouTube videos to know the rockets aren’t firing on all cylinders in his brain.

I have heard the rumor that he was abusive to his wife and Mia took her side and that’s why there was a falling out. In any case I don’t find him to be a reliable source.

Also, Sascha is male and she posts about her younger kids all the time so I’m just going to assume you don’t know the facts and are just getting all your talking points from Woody fan forums.

The reason I do think there was something a little juicy and unexpected is who buys a multimillion dollar house together and breaks up 6 months later over problems they had the whole time they were together? They can both be impulsive but that’s extreme.

I assume Jon had to buy him out and it can’t have been inexpensive. I didn’t realize his podcast made that much money before that.

[quote]I want to talk about the Jon Lovett & Ronan Farrow breakup And why they refuse to talk about it even though they won’t stop talking about it.

Mind ya bees wax.

R183 Nobody knows why Ronan Farrow and Jon Lovett broke up. Neither has said publicly why, and privately, nothing has leaked either, and we are a bunch of nosy queens who want to gossip. Also, you have a couple of posters who think it’s hilarious to make Jon Lovett = Jon Lovitz jokes. Finally, you have the elder gays who are still very obsessed with the Woody Allen Mia Farrow breakup and will use any opportunity to rehash it.

R188 Don't forget the guesses about Ronan's sizemeat and the mockery surrounding Lovett's newfound love of skirts and dresses in public.

Since this does seem to be taking a lesbian pattern I am going with the most lesbian possible explanation which is that Jon had an emotional affair with his employee-turned-fiance and maybe hadn’t even consummated it yet but Ronan found out. Hoes are always madder if you’re in love with someone else and didn’t fuck them then if you did.

To DL, Am I a bad gay man because I didn't know Jon Lovetts was Gay& wore skirts& dresses in public? I know Ronan, from outer space you could tell he was Gay!!

To R188, you do have to admit, the "Mia Farrow& Woody Allen breakup& nuclear bomb accusations" that followed the breakup was Pretty Fucking Spectacular!! That was a story that keeps on giving-Fucking amazing!

I always believed "Team Mia Farow"

I always believed the simplest explanation.

These little fruits broke up for the same reason most gay couples break up:

- Tired of each other's whoring

- Tired of each other's boring stories

- Tired of having the discussion about getting Santorum on the sheets

I can’t remember if it was before Jon and Ronan broke up or after but there was a point when Jon said something about how maybe he would have identified more as queer than gay if he had a broader view of gender when he was younger.

That’s around when he started wearing the skirts so I thought he was perhaps embracing a nonbinary identity himself. Now it seems more like that’s probably when he was forming his infatuation with his current partner as they transitioned.

They are on a journey through the spectrums of gender and sexuality together.

[quote] Tired of having the discussion about getting Santorum on the sheets

We've dealt with this very effectively, never have anal in bed.

[quote]His partner is nonbinary. Dating Men + nonbinary people = bisexual?

Um, penis dating penis and then penis dating vagina is bisexual, yes.

R194 I was always so annoyed when Jon talked about identifying as queer vs gay. It felt very not like other gays to me. So what if you don’t feel comfortable in a jockstrap at a circuit party? That isn’t what makes you gay! He also seemed to conflate body dysmorphia and gender dysphoria in a way that I felt was really toxic. So when it came out he was engaged to a trans-masc nonbinary person, things made a lot more sense. I think he was probably questioning how he identified sexually because of his attraction to a nonbinary person, but he did not want to say that.

[quote] engaged to a trans-masc nonbinary person

The masc is up for debate.

R196 so if his partner was a trans woman you’d still consider him gay? That doesn’t make sense to me.

R199 will you just shut up. "I'm just asking questions" is so over.

R200 I will not. When someone is claiming bisexuality for someone else I want to know how they define it and why.

I want to pound Jon Lovett’s fat ass.

R197 I don’t really care what he identifies as but his resistance to being labeled bisexual or pansexual is a bit odd. His audience wouldn’t mind.

His conflation of gender dysphoria and body dysmorphia is a personal thing. He said his goal in losing weight was he wanted a more femme look. He’s conflicted about a lot of things I think.

I'm a full-on Kinsey 6. When I get up in the morning I seldom feel gay, on occasion, I do feel queer. Luckily when I open my mouth to speak, I'm rarely required to decide how I should identify myself.

Well well. Jon has surprised me by doing another podcast where he spilled some tea. Confirmed he developed feelings and attraction for his employee as they transitioned. Wanted to get with them but they had only dated women before transitioning and it was confusing to them both so they didn’t get together right away (supposedly). Jon was carrying a torch though so eventually he tried again and they U-Hauled.

So there you go. Emotional affair. Sorry for Ronan but it tends to happen when you leave your marital bed cold. I’m sure he threw a very cathartic diva fit about it.

R205 Just goes to show you. A neglected wife will fuck ANYONE to get out of a dead bed.

So the finance was a lesbian prior to transitioning to male and is now dating a cis gay man and the cis gay man is now dating a trans man that previously identified as a lesbian and still has a vagina.

So an ex lesbian is sucking dick now and an ex gay man is eating pussy.

And YET because it’s a trans relationship it’s not reparative therapy.

Got it

“Still has a vagina” made me laugh. They don’t get sealed over when someone transitions.

Some of you are still obsessed with genitals. Hate to tell you but a hole is a hole and a protuberance is s protuberance. Let them enjoy what is now their newfound large clitoris and self-lubricating butthole in peace.

[quote] Some of you are still obsessed with genitals. Hate to tell you but a hole is a hole and a protuberance is s protuberance. Let them enjoy what is now their newfound large clitoris and self-lubricating butthole in peace.

Also a self-lubricating “butthole” where you never have to worry about shit getting on your cock.

In my opinion, all transphobia, within and without the gay community comes from the obsession and very narrow minded focus on genitals.

R209 Agree and I understand society and its fucked up values are what make people this way, also maybe the way porn compartmentalizes body parts warps people’s minds…but it’s like, is your sexual orientation “anuses” or is it a type of relationship with a type of human being? I can’t understand the mentality.

R210 isn’t that the argument for exodus international?

R211 I can elaborate on this if needed, but in short, no, Exodus International is most decidedly not arguing that two Jewish and as yet unmarried people in a mlm relationship should suck gay dick and eat trans pussy to cure themselves of homosexuality

R212 how is this relationship MLM? One partner does not identify as man?

R213 I was including “men and masc of center” in that but my point was that this is not a couple that Exodus International would approve of

I actually think exodus would approve of this.

A woman who previously identified as a lesbian and only dated women, is now engaged to a man. A man who previously identified as a gay man and only dated biological men is now engaged to a biological female, who still has female parts.

This is not transphobic to say this. It’s just a matter of fact.

Okay I will elaborate in that case since you don’t know what you’re talking about.

Exodus International (and all evangelical Christian conversion therapy groups) first of all do not approve of fornication of any kind. They certainly do not approve of cunnilingus and fellatio, regardless of the gender or sexuality of the person performing them. Their argument is that queerness, gayness, and transgenderism do not exist. That anything outside of cisgender penis in cisgender vagina, in the missionary position, solely for the purpose of reproducing to make more evangelical Christians, is a deviant sexual fetish that must be abandoned for God to take you into heaven.

The only thing Exodus would approve of about this couple is, ostensibly, reproductive ability but they certainly don’t want more Jews on this earth so they wouldn’t even approve of that.

So no, they would not want a former butch lesbian to transition to a non-binary masc presentation and suck a gay man’s dick nor would they encourage a gay man to eat trans pussy. Does this require further explanation?

Anyway you’re focusing on the least scandalous part of the story. So what if they’re putting p in v. The SALACIOUS part is Jon fell wildly for his much younger employee/best friend/housesitter/whatever who was in the middle of a job promotion and declared his courtly love despite having just moved in with his fiance who is an investigative journalist and had access to the ring cameras in their house!

*clutches pearls*

[quote] Does this require further explanation?

No. Please, and thank you.