The White Lotus

Think we’ll get a Patrick Schwarzenegger sex scene?

Hopefully he’ll get his ass eaten a la Lukas Gage.

R1, Patrick had a brief sex scene in a movie a few years ago that showed a few frames of his naked ass, but hopefully we will get something better:

Patrick says in this interview that the show will be 'spicy':

I want to see Lukas eat Patrick's ass!

Preview photo from the new season:

Sounds like Patrick will have some nude scenes:

[quote]Schwarzenegger, the son of Arnold Schwarzenegger and Maria Shriver, revealed that he's hesitant to watch the nude scenes with his family . "There are some uncomfortable conversations between us in the bed that are a little weird to show in front of your family," said Schwarzenegger. "Episodes 5 and 6, there will be some times that I take some bathroom breaks from the family, or maybe I won't watch that episode."

I think Mike White also has a "gay is evil" kink. He's pretty much admitted it in interviews, but very delicate and tip-toe-y in how he talks about it.

No Theo James this season?

Why would he come back? His character’s story is done. Belinda (Natasha Rothwell) is the only character in S3 that was in a previous season (S1).

I've never watched The White Lotus.

Should I binge watch the first two seasons in order to understand the third?

You don’t have to r12 but it would be fun! ….. “These Gays are trying to KILL me!!”

There have been few good-looking men in the first two seasons.

R14, HBO is reruning Season 1 to prepare for tomorrow, and I disagree.

Steve Zahn's cleaned up daddy vibes does it for me.

As does Murray Bartlett with his natural Australian accent.

The character Shane might do it for some, but not for me....

I look forward to the escapism & the opportunity to judge rich people!

Are there gays behaving badly again? I'm torn between renewing HBO or not. But White Lotus, Hacks this spring... there's a stream coming but it's all a question of timing and money. However, if there's gays and the semi-annual specific gay sex act du series, I'm in.

So today is Feb 16 and I thought the first episode of Season 3 is supposed to be out but I can’t find it

[quote] I think Mike White also has a "gay is evil" kink. He's pretty much admitted it in interviews, but very delicate and tip-toe-y in how he talks about it.

I just read an interview with him in the most recent New Yorker and, learning about his upbringing, his evangelical father who came out late in life, explains a lot of things.

It's airing at 9 pm EST, Ms. McQuoid.

Somebody said in another thread that apparently Patrick Schwarzenegger shows his ass and a partial view of his cock in the first episode. Apparently there’s going to be a closer view of his ass in the second episode.

[quote] I just read an interview with him in the most recent New Yorker and, learning about his upbringing, his evangelical father who came out late in life, explains a lot of things.

So they're both gay?

They were on the Amazing Race together.

Will we see everything that Maria Shriver saw 30 years ago?

In R6's pic, Patrick is starting to develop a body like his dad, and not in an attractive way. I liked him skinnier.

My big question - Spoilers - ok Belinda is back from Deason one. The end of season 2 was a big deal about Greg and Tanya’s prenup. After Tanya’s Natalie Wood moment …… she is gone. She “took care” of MOST of “The Gays.” Portia her assistant hightailed it back to LA incognito. THE QUESTION: Will husband Greg return at some point as a vey rich widower?

Note to self: Never go to a White Lotus resort because there's always somebody getting fucking murdered.

Parker Posey’s accent is shit. Worse than the worst of Steel Magnolias.

^^which is funny because she grew up in Louisiana and Mississippi. You'd think she'd know how to do a Southern accent.

Patrick Schwarzenegger is impossibly good looking. He somehow managed to get the best attributes of both his parents.

Carrie Coon and Leslie Bibb are as great as I hoped, but Parker Posey’s accent is laughably bad.

Carrie Coon annoys me. I don't like her face. There, I said it.

Even Jason Isaacs has a shit accent.

Parker Posey is ruining this for me...

Yikes, the woman in the red dress is too thin. I would physically hate to bump into her and be jabbed by a sharp bone.

I would love to have a canopy bed with curtains on the side. I should do it.

Parker needs to pork her

Is it just me or do you think there’s going to be some sort of gay/incestual relationship between Saxon and Lochlan. Saxon was the one who suggested they bunk together and his nude mirror scene was very Theo James esque in terms of intentions.

The sibling dynamics are all weird. Saxon says his sister is hot and then the whole jerking off thing.

BORING.

Kill them all. Let episode 2 be Moldavian Massacre and just kill them all.

Walton Higgins’ girlfriend is butt ugly.

WTF is wrong with Parker's character? It's like she's on drugs.

This will be Parker Posey's Mommie Dearest.

Are those buck teeth on the British chick real? They’re very distracting. Patrick Schwarzenegge4’s teeth, on the other hand, are beautiful. As is his ass.

Good god, Jason Isaacs and Walton Goggins are ACTING in every shot. And Parker Posey constantly looks and sounds like she wandered in from another show.

What’s with the subtitles for the Thai character ps in Thai calligraphy under the English subtitles? So pretentious.

This is a very bad start.

I wish Patrick had a bit more chin.....

I miss Jennifer Coolidge. Without her it’s just a bunch of annoying rich people.

R25, you were right!

I'm only a tad high but I thought for a moment that Uncle Baby Bill and Tiffany from the Righteous Gemstones were in the White Lotus .

Another character from the first two seasons is there as well. I wonder if that character will cross paths with Belinda?

So far it is a little underwhelming but Mike White always nails the resort vacation vibe. The Parker Posey family is my least favorite at this point. The sibling dynamics are bizarre and don’t seem very realistic.

Yeah I hope one of the Parker Posey family is the dead body in the pond.

I'm calling it now: Jason Isaacs kills his entire family (Parker, Patrick and the other two) because his business is involved in some kind of a major scandal (the WSJ reporter's incessant phone calls) and he's going to be put on trial and go to jail if he returns to the US.

Who knows I might be wrong, but that's my feeling.

Apparently there is a closeup shot of Patrick's ass in the second episode. The dynamic he has with the brother is some weird shit.

I'm getting incesty vibes

I'm getting incestuous vibes between those sibs. I swear I thought the old, bald bf of the model was Tanya's husband from S1 and 2.

Incest is best, put your brother to the test.

The two brothers should just fuck in the first episode .

That's a lotta Belinda compared to Season 1. No Ozempic for that gal!

The buck toothed British slag reminded me of the vapid British tart Cecily Strong played a few times in SNL. Which was fine for a sketch but the one in this show has worn out her welcome in the very first episode. I’m surprised Mike White didn’t have her make a remark about the “nibbles” on the bar.

Carrie Coon is a great actress but way too short for her face and overall essence.

Sam Nivola, who plays the youngest son of Parker Posey, really got a 50/50 genetic split from his parents, hot Alessandro Nivola and willowy Emily Mortimer. I can see so much of both of them in Sam.

So happy to have this show back.

The beautiful settings, the despicable characters. Mike White knows how to create a vacation for the audience which as the world goes to hell god knows when need this perfect dose of escapism.

Parker Posey is clearly trying to give camp with her performance. With Jennifer Coolidge gone she seems to be the character brought in to deliver some camp vibes to the show.

There is definitely incest vibes with the siblings. But hey, Game of Thrones is HBOs biggest show and has incest so why wouldn't Mike White break that taboo by bringing it into this show. That's one way to grab people's attention I suppose.

Interested to see how the three friends develop. Right now we just see the obvious simmering resentment but it's definitely going to build somewhere.

Walter Higgins definitely came here to confront/kill the hotel managers husband. But seems to obvious to have him be the shooter in the finale.

Seriously? Y'all know about Tarantino's foot fetish, but not White's incest thing? His very first movie "Chuck & Buck" was about it.)

Not sure if it'll be with his brother or sister, but I have a feeling we'll be seeing a lot of his ass as he pounds one of them from behind.

Parker Posey is southern , she grew up in Louisiana and Mississippi. She knows how to do a southern accent and is doing a great one, you're just not used to hearing her talk in it. She did a similar one on The Staircase. Anyway that character is clearly drugged to the moon and back so it's gonna be a little wonky

I love watching shows and movies about white people being awful entitled cunts. It makes for great viewing, very entertaining. I'm serious.

r59 wtf are you talking about, Chuck & Buck wasn't about incest. They were just close friends as kids who fooled around and reunite as adults only MW's character hasn't grown up or matured at all and still wants to fool around with his friend, while his friend just saw that as a phase.

The younger brother is clearly attracted to the older brother. I don’t know what to make of the Patrick Schwarzenegger. I could see a storyline developing with him trying to take his sister’s virginity but part of me think he could be gay or bi. Why was he naked in the bed next to his younger brother?

I haven't watched it yet. I enjoyed season two so much, I'm afraid I'll be disappointed. I'll give it a go and report back later with my opinion.

So that was Greg at the table? Hmmm...

Yes r65, the camera focused on him for a while to make sure we saw it was Greg. That was meant to be the big twist of the premiere, they hid he was coming back this season.

r63 the older brother had clearly started that conversation about porn out thinking they'd circle jerk watching the same porn together and when younger brother was dazed and confused he moved to the bathroom. Very incesty vibes coming off all three of those kids.

R67: Yeah the older brother was doing the seducing but the younger brother was afraid to make the first move.

Yes, the older brother's slight pause after wondering aloud how he would jerk off while sharing a room with his brother was clearly an invitation for them to jerk off together. When the younger brother didn't take the bait, he moved to the bathroom.

The older brother’s rant about women and pussy by the pool should’ve been a hint to his possibly being a closeted gay.

I love/hate how mean-spirited the White Lotus is.

I immediately clock it was Greg, and lo and behold he’s the Tanya now - a pathetic White Lotus regular in a relationship with a pseudo-hooker who hates his guts. I hope he’s the first one to get shot.

The North Carolina kids seem to be gearing up for some crept incestuous love triangle, and Mike White is clearly delighting in humiliating Patrick Schwarzenegger‘s soi-disant alpha male oldest son - all that preening and chest-puffing just to scoffed at by the women he is trying to impress, all while being nakedly objectified by the gay-coded gaze of the camera. Oof.

Of the three girlfriends, Leslie Bibb seems the best cast as the nice-nasty beta. Carrie Coon is just too formidable to be the lowest status friend and Michelle Monaghan is too much on a “who?” to play a B list actress. Another oof.

It’ll be interesting to see if Parker Posey will get what Jennifer Coolidge got out of this show. I’m not sure maddeningly complacent upper-class North Carolina frau will be the camp home run that Tanya was.

Jason Issacs is fighting for his life with that accent, veering from some version of Southern to Australian. Sometimes even in the same sentence!

I just can't get into it. I've tried watching the pilot and second episode three times, but always don't want to continue. Is it worth pushing through?

Well if you watched two episodes and didn't like it maybe it's just not for you r73. Everything has it's intended audience, it can't be for everyone.

Patrick's ass:

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Patrick is a decent actor. Not great but not awful nepo-baby bad.

Will watch when I get home from my spin class.

R79: He was okay but again he's essentially playing himself.

This resort is my least favorite of the three, not that I can afford to stay at any of them…

High Definition version of Patrick's ass:

But British actors are sooo much better at doing American accents than Americans are at doing British accents!

Doesn’t make sense that Greg would return to a White Lotus.

Oh, you're just going to bring up Dick Van Dyke in "Mary Poppins" again, r84. That was 65 years ago.

The show is caught too much in a revolving door. And not because we start every season with a dead body and then a flashback in time to when the guests involved were greeted by the main hotel staff (which is an intentional plot device). What we have now is what I fear is lazy writing.

Once again, we have a rich, crass family (the Mossbachers/Di Grassos/Ratliffs) staying together with their sensitive, nebbishy, high-school-aged son (Quinn/Albie/Lochy) with everyone refusing to admit how unhappy they are.

Once again, we have an attractive rich alpha-male asshole bullying other people (Shane/Cameron/Saxon).

Once again, we have a sensitive, pretty young woman who is aware all is not right in her privileged world (Rachel/Portia/Piper)

Once again, we have a daffy rich woman in late middle-age (Tanya the first two seasons/Victoria).

R57, that’s interesting that Sam Nivola’s White Lotus mom and his real mom were both in Scream 3 playing Stab 3 Gale Weathers and Sidney Prescott.

The two nepos get the incest storyline.

Great first episode! Patrick was hot af.

R87 People who have seen the first few episodes said it's good, but it's deinifitely the weakest season.

R73 I feel you. I thought Aubrey Plaza would help me get into S2 but that didn't happen. What happened to those two annoying hookers from last season?

Dear Lord, let that asteroid that is going to hit Earth in 2032 come early. And let it hit this show’s set retroactively. And utterly smite this stupidity.

Greg looks like such a sex tourist. Even in Hawaii, he looked like a sex tourist.

[quote] Of the three girlfriends, Leslie Bibb seems the best cast as the nice-nasty beta. Carrie Coon is just too formidable to be the lowest status friend and Michelle Monaghan is too much on a “who?” to play a B list actress. Another oof.

Nah, Carrie Coon is perfectly vast as the Miranda Hobbes of the trio.

Monaghan and Bibb don’t have SATC correlations, they would just would be two women who were bitchy to Charlotte.

R73, I actively hated season 1 with the exception of Murray’s plot line. Everything from self-pitying Rachel to the brother who experiences self-actualisation by *checks notes* dropping out and becoming a beach bum to live at one with the brown natives.

I only watched season 2 for Michael Imperioli. It ended up liking it a lot because I thought it dramatised sexual politics better than season 1 did white privilege.

Mike White could have at least tried to do something other than copy-and-paste Jake Lacy's scripts from season 1 for Patrick Schwarzenegger.

In any event, Patrick Schwarzenegger will be nominated for an Emmy for playing himself.

The older brother reminds me of a real life version of reddit "straight" guys who like to "bond" with other "straight" over female celebrities.

Op is a shameless shill

When it comes to this show, the slow burn thing works for the first episode, but starts to grate after. Usually, it picks up by the end of episode 3.

Patrick is the best looking living Kennedy.

New theme song is the weakest of the three, by far.

Jason Isaacs is usually so good with an American accent, so what went wrong here? Parker Posey has even less of an excuse for sounding like a cartoon.

Is it just me, or does anyone else not get Patrick's hotness? Everything should be working in theory – he has the abs and the perfect face. Yet he doesn't have an ounce of the sex appeal of Jake Lacy, Leo Woodall, Theo James, and Will Sharpe. Or even Adam DiMarco and Murray Bartlett. I blame the Shriver eyes and teeth for this stale piece of bread vibe.

I have to compliment Mike White's directing, just as I did last season. That man has a great eye, those monkeys in particular were shot beautifully.

Carrie Coon's abs looked incredible in that bathing suit, good for her.

Would Jon Hamm have been a better choice than Jason Isaacs?

I don't like it.

Maybe. Jon Hamm would be a scootch young, I think.

If Tom Cruise would deign to make his TV debut, he is often convincingly corrupt under his perfectly coiffed hair.

A lot of actors could play it. Kyle McLachlan, Josh Brolin, Guy Pearce, Russell Crowe. Even Clooney, though I wouldn’t care to watch him.

Love Parker but her southern accent is so bad.

Her southern accent is Iike a caricature.

I find her utterly unwatchable.

She’s Foghorn Leghorn

Patrick's character is clearly an incel. He has the looks to draw attention, but his personality is a total dud - note how he struck out with all the ladies at the pool and tried to brush it off with faux confidence. My guess is this will become more important as their week progresses, or maybe he finally lands someone and does crazy shit as a result.

I think Parker's character is supposed to be completely off in her own world, she's not really supposed to fit normally into the family.

ZION IS HOT

Posey is just absolutely miscast playing a mother.

It will be interesting to find out when Season 3 is set. Is it happening concurrently with S2? I thought I read somewhere that Belinda isn’t aware of Tanya’s death yet. I hope there’s a twist that Tanya left her a few million in her will after screwing her over in Season 1.

... or maybe she'll end up with Greg, who (supposedly) got her money.

Posey did a good southern accent in that "Waiting for Guffman" movie nearly 30 years ago.

Patrick has a weak chin and a wonky eye that does its own thing. I don't think he's very handsome. They younger brother is much better looking.

r114 The, not they.

r115, you were right the first time.

Sam Nivola is aging really well, I think he's going to be real handsome in a few years.

[quote]Chuck & Buck wasn't about incest. They were just close friends as kids who fooled around.

Same-sex friends as close as brothers who fucked around. Nah, not related in the least...

[quote]The show is caught too much in a revolving door.

No, it's "caught" in a specific model of eerie goings-on at luxury resorts, each while looking at various aspects of society. The first one was about privilege & colonialism, and S2 was primarily about toxic masculinity. Yes, it has a "formula" – something bad happens at the beginning of each season, but we don't know what until much later – but the odd part is you finding it weird. Would you watch "Murder, She Wrote" and somehow not be surprised if Jessica Fletcher didn't both have someone murdered nearby & solve the case by the end of each episode?

Or a "Scream" movie where a high school girl gets murdered by a weird dude definitely calling from inside the house?

Do you seriously want to see "The White Lotus: Extreme Makeover Edition," where rich people bitch & moan about building houses in the developing world, instead? Please.

[quote]Patrick's character is clearly an incel. He has the looks to draw attention, but his personality is a total dud - note how he struck out with all the ladies at the pool and tried to brush it off with faux confidence. My guess is this will become more important as their week progresses, or maybe he finally lands someone and does crazy shit as a result.

While I think it's a stretch that he's an "incel" – Saxon has zero "game," as it were, but guys who are THAT hot can still manage to get laid – there's absolutely something off about him, but out of curiosity, did anyone else catch that the kids were homeschooled? That could explain it. It's almost like Mike wrote Saxon as the absolute blandest hot guy on the planet: someone who knows he's hot but has zero personality behind it. His brother seems confused at best, and potentially sexually so, but it's also not clear how much of an age difference there is between the two of them. (Lochlan's a HS senior, and their sister's in college, but we don't know when Saxon finished at Duke. IRL they're 10 years apart in age, which might at least explain the oddness re: them discussing jerking off: if Saxon's a decade older, he presumably wouldn't have been living with Lochlan during his adolescence.)

I mean, even his clothes and walk are bland! Saxon wears ill-fitting baggy clothes despite having a wide enough torso to wear far better-fitting attire. We haven't yet established that he can even communicate with other people in a non-weird way, but I have Lochlan down as most likely to go postal this season.

Well, keep in mind that Saxon tried first to hit on the three older schoolfriends who do not seem to be looking to get laid (they're more into hanging out together), and then with Walter Goggins's girlfriend, who is pretty taken. He may well have game in a different situation, but he's hitting on women based on proximity and hotness--he's not being discriminate.

It's not like this is a gay bnb where anyone you hit on will fuck you then and there if you're hot enough.

So perhaps attempt number #5 will be on Charlotte Le Bon, Greg’s girlfriend.

R119, I have heard straight men say what he says about why he’s doing it, though—it’s about volume. You just keep asking and asking and eventually someone will say yes. They don’t all have this mentality, but some do.

There's going to be a huge showdown between those three women. The Carrie Coons character is gonna bust loose after years of subtle HS bullying and being the third wheel

I find Carrie the most interesting and watchable.

Not even remotely, looks like inbred white trash from Indiana.

^sorry, wrong thread

Carrie Coons is by far the best actor in the new season.

My favorite white Lotus.

Probably part of the minority opinion, but another vote here for "Patrick Schwarzenegger is bland as fuck".

Pretty, yes. Hot, no.

I think the teen daughter who dresses like a Mennonite is likely to be the shooter. Everything about her is strange, from the trip around the world to interview someone who doesn't know she's coming to the fact that she wasn't "ready" to walk into the monastery after they got there.

Walton Goggins is a good actor, so I hope the script has more depth than just giving him Angry Asshole to play as it goes along.

Interesting premiere episode with a lot of storylines. The reviews were accurate in saying it was more of the same but with a good cast. It might be a little too overstuffed with characters and plots.

Jason Isaacs sounded like he was auditioning to replace Daniel Craig in the "Knives Out" movies. Parker Posey seemed like she was in a different show from everyone else. And yeah, the incest vibes from the three children were too strong to ignore.

Crazy ending theory: Jason's character (Tim) discovers he will be arrested upon returning to the States and have his entire life taken away. After hearing this, he runs into Rick (Walton's character), they get into a fight and Jason shoots him. Jason returns to his cabin, finds his children having an incest three-way and shoots them and his wife. Just as security breaks in, he puts the gun to his head, pulls the trigger and ... click. Empty.

Roll credits.

Oh hi r130!

I’m already worried about the sweet Thai cop who has a crush on the Thai White Lotus Employee.

Maybe Saxon scores with Pam, the Aussie White Lotus employee assigned to the Ratliffs.

Isaacs’ and Posey’s accents are terrible, but it’s nice to finally hear Walton Goggins without an exaggerated Southern accent. He’s usually the one who sounds like Foghorn Leghorn, but I think he’s probably using his normal voice here. I like it.

I also like his big, round eyes. They were so expressive when he was looking at the elderly resort owner.

He and Isaacs are definitely going to have an altercation.

My guess is a monkey gets hold of a gun and just plays "pop pop" with it. There's to much emphasis on the tree monkeys.

Does anyone else find Goggins sexy as hell? Not quite handsome, not quite ugly but sexy.

[quote]There's to much emphasis on the tree monkeys.

White always focuses on some natural element looking in on the dumb humans, it's another conceit of the show.

That said when Carrie Coon drunkenly left her door open and they made a point of her being isolated up in the trees part away from everyone else, and she saw the monkeys romping right there, I def think monkeys will be making their way into her room at some point, probably this very night the show ends on

My thoughts:

Fuck Greg! Hope he finally dies. Wasn’t he supposed to be terminal in season 1? But, it’s cool he’s in this season. He needs to get his comeuppance for siccing the gays on Tanya.

Lachlan is going to lose his shit- he’s being pulled between his mom and dad and his brother and sister. Could he be the shooter?

I want the best for Belinda and the parking attendant employee. They’re sweet. Her son is cute.

Those two bodyguards who were talking to Mook were hot! I hope we see more of them when Hollinger arrives. (Was Hollinger Scott Glenn in the pictures we saw? Looked like him)

Patrick S. is fine. Not great not awful. He’s attractive, but has no sex appeal for me. Maybe he’ll get poisoned by those seeds from the fruit he picked up. Someone probably will.

Decent start to the season.

Patrick reminds me of Scott Eastwood in one particular way: he's got all the elements to be hot, but somehow he just isn't.

Chelsea (Aimee Lou Wood) was great in Sex Education where she played Aimee Gibbs, but it feels like she plays herself, only much thinner this time.

R137, Greg claimed that he had a terminal illness, but, in turns out, that was a very Greg thing to do.

R135, he kooks a lot like Billy Bob Thornton did years ago. And that’s a hard pass from me,

I like that R134 !!

Was not a fan of Carrie Coon's acting in The Gilded Age but I like her in this.

Too bad Kaitlyn Dever’s career has taken off to the extent that she’s not playing the Ratliff daughter. She’d be a great physical match with Parker Posey’. The girl who is playing it looks like a young Katie Holmes. Maybe she can play her in the inevitable Ryan Murphy miniseries about Tom Cruise and Scientology.

Why did they change the intro theme song. In the second season it was the same song but with a different twist. I was hoping we will get the same song but with the Thai twist. Instead we got a completely new song, which is just stupid, and doesn't go along with first two seasons.

Why would they have a poisonous fruit trees growing inside the hotel premise? And if that guy didn't picked up a fruit in front of the stuff lady, they wouldn't even know it was poisonous. That just doesn't seem realistic at all. To have fruits that could kill you laying on the ground of the hotel room's garden

r146 I thought the same thing. Poisonous fruit where any dumb hotel guest could eat it? No warnings about it? That seemed pretty far-fetched.

Obviously this is a plot device and someone is going to ingest that fruit.

I thought the actress playing the daughter was good on the terrible Amazon Cruel Intentions series playing the Sarah Michelle Gellar role.

[quote] My thoughts:

[quote]Fuck Greg! Hope he finally dies.

But don't you want to hear about some of his most delicious recipes first? Or which fancy events he's attending in the greater Boston area?

A kid got eaten by an alligator at a Disney world hotel because there were real alligators living in bodies of water at the resort. So there being some trees on the resort that have poisonous fruit didn't seem *too* farfetched to me. It's for ambiance not meant to be eaten.

But I do wonder how Chekhov's fruit will come into play, clearly someone is getting poisoned before the season is over.

This episode seemed to imply the younger brother was attracted to the older brother but in the series previews that aired after, it looked more like he was going to actually sleep with his sister…so I think this episode was just to rope people into thinking it was a gay plot when it’s not.

There were incest vibes in both pairings r151, I saw it with the sister as well. This being a gay board people focused on the on the gay incest angle but Mike White laid the groundwork for all of it.

It was very clear the older brother (Saxon) was being manipulative of the sister, and he also told his young brother their sister was "hot" and that she desperately needed to "get laid."

Just today I started getting this message in the link below every time I click onto the link.

Anyone else?

Will Tanya's apparition appear in the spirit house?

Did Greg and Belinda have much interaction in Season 1? I can’t remember, but the previews for this season made it seem like Greg definitely remembered her and wasn’t happy she’s there. And Belinda seemed scared of him.

I love Aimee Lou Wood, think she's incredibly funny, and she gave me a lot of laughs in the premiere.

is she the gap toothed skank?

R156 Could be wrong, but I don't recall Greg and Belinda having any direct interaction in S1. Belinda definitely knew about him, though, from Tanya telling her about him and cancelling on her to meet up with him. Greg probably knew about Belinda in the same way, Tanya telling him about her and the "spa for poor women" proposal. I can't imagine why he'd consider Belinda some kind of loose end, though, at least not compared to Portia. He knows Portia wasn't murdered and likely figured out his scheme...

[quote]Why would they have a poisonous fruit trees growing inside the hotel premise?

It's going to turn out that John Hammond owns The White Lotus chain

Zion is fucking gorgeous.

Zion is gorgeous but dull. Looks too much like he wandered in from an episode of General Hospital or The Bold and the Beautiful.

The monkeys look like AI creations.

What I wonder is if the shooting is going to be a fake out with the monkeys getting hold of the guns and having nothing to do with the murder.

The doppelgänger theme struck me, the mirror imagery and symbolism.

The two whores at the bar, Belinda seeing the wealthy black woman, the three friends always being mistaken for each other” and several more examples

I thought Carrie Coon was Heidi Gardner at first.

Saxon becomes obsessed with the monkeys and forces a circle jerk. The monkeys retaliate with gunfire when Saxon attempts intercourse.

I'm finding a lot of the casting kinda weak. I don't believe Parker and Jason as husband and wife and their 3 kids bear no resemblance to them or to each other.

I also don't see Goggins and Aime Lou Wood as a believable couple on any level.

And Michele Monaghan isn't quite special/pretty enough to be the movie star she's made out to be.

Parker Posey is just trying too hard.

She's even trying too hard in the promo interview after E1.

Jason Isaacs' badly matched hair pieces are distracting. So are his nipples but I like them.

I think the girl said the seeds were poisonous....not sure about the rest of the fruit.

Jason looked very handsome in the short interview after the show. You can tell he’s very intelligent, but not pretentious.

I like Parker Posey, but I also just don't think she's believable as a Southern matron with a husband and kids. She's more like the aging party girl who latches onto the gay couple at the resort and goes out to score some coke with them.

Jason is pretty funny. I thought he looked a lot like Jon Hamm in certain scenes.

Not so evident in his performances, I noticed when Patrick Schwarzenegger is being interviewed he does this thing with his mouth, while smiling and speaking, that closely resembles the noxious DJT Jr. It's disturbing and unattractive.

Is e2 already available for viewing?

^^No.

The worst thing about this new season is it's not very funny without Jennifer Coolidge. I couldn't figure out where the humor was even supposed to reside last night--with Parker Posey? It's as if all the humor has been drained out.

Well I thought Jason Isaacs’ accent was jolly hood, he barely slipped up.

[quote]Fuck Greg! Hope he finally dies.

I was hoping they'd wrap up whether or not Greg was Quentin's great lost love from his "On the Road" days.

I just want to highlight that Michelle M’s character is supposed to be a TV star, not a movie star. So we can calm down about her not being pretty enough.

R172 but without the Hammaconda.

Did Aubrey Plaza show up to the Season 3 premiere, or is she still in mourning?

I want Jason Isaacs to do horrible things to me.

In the scene on the boat, I thought it was Jon Hamm, so started to look for the telltale Hamm bulge.

I've watched this show religiously since it started. I've always hated it. But I can't stop watching.

Is that what they mean by "hate-watching'?

Parkers accent is spot on. North Carolina has some Philly/ maryland aspects to it. It's pretty far north.

I enjoyed the first eps. You queens are judging this way to quickly. "it's the worst season" FROM ONE EP? Yeah ok

R187 Do share, how is it you've had access to multiple "eps"?

R150 I'm sure there were signs about alligators. And alligators in the water and poisonous fruit laying around the ground aren't exactly the same thing

R167 Cause all movie stars are gorgeous? She's prettier than a lot or even most real life movie stars.

It usually takes a few episodes to ramp up, give it time.

Posey said she is trying to be funny, maybe she wants to be a bit like Jennifer Coolidge.

Patrick is so bland. He's much better looking than Arnold, but he lacks his father's charisma. He also is a very meh actor. Not bad, not good.

[quote]Posey said she is trying to be funny, maybe she wants to be a bit like Jennifer Coolidge.

I was thinking that too - she's trying to be Tanya 2.0 (or Tanya if she'd had a family). But I kind of think what worked for the character (aside from Coolidge) is that she's so daft and oblivious, yet she's obviously so lonely & vulnerable, so her behavior seems more childlike & not so affected

I cackled at Parker's every line but maybe it's just that she is doing a very nearly spot-on impersonation of my partner's sister from South Carolina, an oblivious moneyed pill addict

R194, I cackled at her accent too. But maybe that is the plot point-she is not from the south and so she is pretending to be from the south with her ridiculous accent. 🤷🏽‍♂️

[quote]Jason Isaacs sounded like he was auditioning to replace Daniel Craig in the "Knives Out" movies. Parker Posey seemed like she was in a different show from everyone else. And yeah, the incest vibes from the three children were too strong to ignore.

It's very possible that Jason and Parker's accents sound a bit off because they're supposed to. It's also possible that if they aren't who they say they are then the kids might not even be related.

Then again a couple of people on Reddit (of all places) have said their accents actually do fit the exact place where those characters are supposed to be from even if they sound different than the usual southern accents.

I think the settings are incredible. All that overwhelming natural beauty that at the same time is quite oppressive and menacing. I'd also freak out if a giant (harmless) lizard ran by my feet.

[quote]It's also possible that if they aren't who they say they are then the kids might not even be related.

I kind of wondered that too - in the preview, the younger brother tells the sister she's hot. What brother says that to his sister? Sibling relationships at that age are more like the contempt displayed in the Season 1 family. It did make me wonder if the whole family act is some kind of con.

I'm hoping this is my big break into television.

R198, there is something weird. They don’t seem like siblings at all.

“ They don’t seem like siblings at all.”

Fuck you. We cast for pretty - not pretty similar.

I think this is a diversion leading us to believe the brothers will be committing incest…it will probably be that the younger brother tries to fuck the sister or something.

The idea of the monkeys getting the gun and shooting everyone is too silly even for this show.

Belinda's hot son needs to hurry up and get there.

Carrie's acting on this show is wayyy better than whatever the hell she is doing on Gilded Age.

I've never seen an actor act more with their teeth than Leslie Bibb

Piper is straight. Lochlan is gay. Saxon is bi

I think there will be an incestual, gay-leaning threesome.

R205 one can hope!

[quote]an incestual, gay-leaning threesome

That feels like... a lot. Granted this is the show that showed Murray Bartlett shitting in a suitcase, and HBO sure hasn't shied away from sexy incest storylines before (hello Game of Thrones) but that had the distance of Fantasy. Having sexy incest in there here and now - I would be pretty shocked.

That said PS did say in an interview that he felt weird about his family seeing him naked in the first episode but there are things that happen in later episodes that he cannot see himself watching with his family AT ALL. so what do I know

I can totally see Piper being the shooter.

r189 There weren't signs before. It was a big story when Disney added signs after the incident. In the years before the attack, Disney had built villas on the water's edge. Staff had repeatedly raised concerns that guests in these villas had been feeding the gators.

Anyway, with the fruit, she said the seeds were toxic not the fruit itself. I see it as a commentary on modern capitalism - doesn't care about the risks as long as it looks good. And yes, stuff like this does happen for real. Link related gives an example in...oh, Florida again.

Or, R202, that the older brother molested the sister.

Critics have seen the first 6 (out of 8) episodes, and if you read between the lines there is definitely something incesty sexual encounter that happens in episode 5 or 6. Grace Randolph basically gives it away.

[Quote]And in an effort to be shocking the show ultimately, I think, crosses a line that to be fair another HBO show got away with but here doesn’t work

The other HBO show clearly being Game of Thrones.

I would still bet the farm it won't be homosexual incest.

The White Lotus Season 3 premiere boasted a 57% increase over Season 2’s premiere night and an impressive 155% higher than the Season 1 premiere.

In the 36 hours post-premiere the Season 3 debut has already grown its audience 90% to 4.6M viewers.

online speculation is that Laurie (Carrie Coon) is the mother of Portia (Haley Lu Richardson) from S2. Sorry if already mentioned TL:DR

That seems like a silly theory r214 IMO.

The flower in the attic IS a white lotus!

R102 nothing is great on Patrick. His face is pretty but he has a weak Austrian chin. His abs are barely there, he’s not ripped just fit. Droopy shoulders and mid-level acting.

Sorry, he’s way overrated

^joseph baena^

I'm enjoying Parker's character so far, not yet the star turn compared to her prosecutor in The Staircase, but I'm keeping an open mind.

R120 is she Simon Le Bon’s (Duran Duran) daughter? She looks like mom Yasmin.

R148 yes Sarah Catherine Hook is the actress playing Piper, she was in the Conjuring, that teen lesbian vampire series and the new cruel intentions. Did anyone catch her offering to room with the younger brother? Was it to keep him away from predatory older brother?

The southern Finance Dad imho seems be modeled after Thomas Ravenal (Southern douche bag from a prominent family in Southern Charm).

I read on a nudity report subreddit (from somewhere who claims to have seen the first 6 episodes) that there's a "gay focused threesome" (but briefly shown and not explicit) in episode 6. I feel like it has to be the incest thing.

*someone

Carrie Coon is too young to be Haley Lu Richardson's mother.

Good lord r217.

Who is Leslie Bibb when she's not on White Lotus? I mean, is she famous for something?

Leslie Bibb has been on several series, including Popular, American Housewife, and last year’s Palm Royale.

She’s also the longtime girlfriend of Sam Rockwell, and is known for hanging and fawning all over him at award shows so she can get camera time.

You forgot DL favorite show Good Christian Bitches.

Enty's Blind Item:

This nepo baby slept his way into his most recent role. Don't accept any other explanations. Patrick Schwarzenegger/”The White Lotus Season 3”/Mike White

Carrie Coon's face looks...different.

White Lotus is one of the hottest tickets in town for any actor, if all it took was hooking up with Mike White guys would be killing each other to get a chance to knock on his door.

I’m disappointed by the theme music.

Mi piace Sam Nivola. Vorrei vedere il suo cazzo.

Patrick Schwarzenegger has had other good similar roles recently, such as in "The Staircase." I would seriously doubt he slept with Mike White to get this part.

PS wasn't bad in his brief appearance as Golden Boy in "Gen V", which is the spinoff of "The Boys."

I really don't like incest themes.

PS tends to play young men with different kinds of blessings (genetic or wealth-related) who are weak and/or conflicted.

Type casting.

R196 My sister and BIL live in Chapel Hill NC. They think Isaacs' accent is even better than Posey's. Very specific and not easy to pull off. Posey's is just kind of generic druggy Southern woman.

You're lying, r238.

Liar

Stop wasting your time watching that feces

Minor complaint, despite the fact that it makes perfect sense from a location standpoint, did the dead body need to be discovered floating in the water again? Seems a bit lazy.

R218 I'd love to get Joseph banana naked on this show! Or any show. He's got a great body.

^baena. Oops

Continua a guardare R232

R205 How do you know Piper is straight?

R198 The older brother already said in the first episode to the younger one that their sister is hot and she needs to get laid

R220 She's not Simon LeBon's daughter

Carrie Coon looks so different in this, it took a minute for me to recognize her.

her name sounds like a racist slur

Michelle Monaghen also looks different with that blonde hair, All three are blonde. I guess it means something.

When dog shit turns white

Who does Joseph Baena play?

Jason's accent is as flawless as it is effortless. Hint of NC.

My issue with Michelle is that she doesn't seem all that hot. She looks so LA average. The Big White Teeth actress is much more attractive and Carrie Coon is for sure on Michelle's level looks wise.

So Carrie Coon's character is a big hotshot corporate executive. She's successful and well-off. Why does she not think she compares to the other two?

[quote]Who does Joseph Baena play?

He plays Mary Queen of Scots, Rose.

When Saxon asked his brother about his porn preferences, he mentioned bukkake. Bukkake is so fucking gay, even when there's a woman involved.

R255, I think it’s more about how old dynamics tend to reassert themselves when childhood-era friend groups reunite. She feels insecure around these women because she has always felt insecure around them.

[quote] Bukkake is so fucking gay, even when there's a woman involved.

How so?

Is she a "big shot" corporate executive or does she just work in the corporate world r255?

But it's only been one episode, we will get more understanding of those characters.

SPOILERS (don't say you weren't warned! Some are interesting, but some are extremely boring)

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I read a lot of the reviews of the first episode of the new season of "The White Lotus," and some of the critics spilled the beans (who saw the first four episodes) about a few things about upcoming episodes. As I said, some of these are admittedly not very interesting, but others are very interesting.

*The first few episodes will be slow (the first is considered the slowest of all), but then things pick up incredibly quickly by the fourth episode.

*The Parker Posey character, Victoria Ratliff, is a habitual Lorazepam abuser, and we will find out she's a huge snob. She is the course of most of the comic energy for the season.

*Timothy Ratliff, the Jason Isaacs character, is the grandson of a former North Carolina governor, which is why the family acts like they're Southern royalty (besides their money)

*The Ratliffs' youngest son, Lochlan, is gay and may be planning to come out of the closet to his family

*The incest vibes we're picking up among the Ratliff siblings have been noticed very intently by the critics, who suggest they may be amplified as the season continues (although they don't say if they will be acted upon)

*Laurie (Carrie Coons) is recently coming off a big divorce, which is in large part why she's so unhappy and wound-up in the first episode

*The Leslie Bibb character among the three friends will constantly be pairing off with one or another of the other two friends to say nasty things about whichever one is absent

*Belinda will be the connection between the rich guests and the hotel workers (unsurprisingly). She will also have a romance with another staff member at the resort.

*The senior Thai woman who owns the center is a huge fan of Jaclyn (Michelle Monaghan) and her TV show, which is why she assigned the hottest of her wellness experts to the three women friends

*There will be tons of shots of Buddhas (symbolizing spiritual ideals) and also of monkeys (symbolizing human desires and bad behavior) throughout the season

*Future episodes will take some of the characters to Bangkok

*The two older men's girlfriends--the British one from "Sex Education" and the Le Bon daughter--will be the equivalent of the two Italian girls from the second season (I'm not quite sure what that means)

*Greg (Tonya's widower and the plotter of her murder) is now going by "Gary." He is abusive towards the Le Bon daughter.

*Some critics consider Patrick Schwarzenegger the season's standout performance. His character will become obsessed with making protein shakes in the resort, and the noise of his blender will drive everyone else crazy. He will make many more inappopriate comments in the next two episodes concerning his siblings' sex lives.

That's all I know so far.

I don’t understand why anyone would prefer to read spoilers over watching week to week with the rest of us.

Guess I'm on the minority but I giggle every time Parker Posey is on screen. Also love the new "Teefs" British girl.

[quote]Is she a "big shot" corporate executive or does she just work in the corporate world

She appears to be a "big shot" you smug cunt.

Aimee Lou Wood is a very big TV and theater actress in the UK. She starred in the series Sex Education with Gillian Anderson and in the West End in a revival of Uncle Vanya opposite Richard Armitage and Toby Jones.

Among many credits, you American heathens!

Aimee Lou Wood's horrifying teeth must have been the inspiration for Amy Sedaris's fake overbite when she played Jerri Blank on "Strangers with Candy."

Yeah, those teeth are fucking jacked.

Bucked teeth are strangely erotic.

I didn’t mind her teeth and I liked the big smile she had when that other lady at the bar said she liked them. It was a cute reaction.

Her big teeth is what maked her look unique and a fun character to get cast in these parts.

Charlotte Le Bon is not Duran Duran's guy's daughter

Girl that plays Mook is a big K-pop star.

But why would she just leave her motorcycle by the side of the road, when it broke down?

R261 "The two older men's girlfriends--the British one from "Sex Education" and the Le Bon daughter--will be the equivalent of the two Italian girls from the second season (I'm not quite sure what that means)"

They will probably take their sugar daddies money and run. Those two girl kiss in a this season's trailer. Don't remember if the Italian girls ever kissed.

R254 Out of all things to complain about, you guys find the worst one. That actress is beautiful, especially for her age. Who are all these real life tv stars that are so much beautiful than her? And since when do tv stars have to be drop dead gorgeous? Carrie Coon is minor tv star and you say she's not as pretty as the other actress. That doesn't make any sense

Jacked up teeth (teeth with big gaps) seem to be a thing; the AL Wood looks like she could be one of the Jagger/Hall spawn who are very attractive, but have their father's less than conventional good looks. That's what this girl reminds me of - attractive in a very British way

Grace Randolph pretty much confirmed that there they "go there" with the incest storyline.

R102 Oh, it's gotten. In theory, he's hot but completely void of anything that would make him sexy.

R273, they do have a vibe similar to the Italian girls: they are sharp and have no self-doubts. They know why they are there.

Did anyone notice that the elderly white husband of the Thai lady owner (v briefly shown in a photo/painting) looks like an old Walter Scoggins (creepy old boyfriend with a British girl)? Wondering if he traveled there to find his Dad? Confront an absent father etc.

r279 that was my bf's guess

[quote]It will be interesting to find out when Season 3 is set.

Greg/Gary's paid gf (not Simon's daughter) gave a specific timeframe that he had lived on that hill and I thought it was a year? That would put this in a current day timeline in relation to S2.

[quote] Did anyone notice that the elderly white husband of the Thai lady owner (v briefly shown in a photo/painting) looks like an old Walter Scoggins (creepy old boyfriend with a British girl)?

He's played by Scott Glenn.

Urban Cowboy Scott Glenn?

So maybe Lachlan will rim Saxon and that scene in the bedroom/bathroom was foreshadowing? I enjoyed the rimming in Season 1 but missed it in Season 2.

Backstory on the origins of the southern accent.

My first thought was that Walton Goggins went there to meet his bio dad (Scott Glenn). He’s clearly in Thailand to see him, since he was pissed when he found out he wasn’t at the resort. That’s so obvious, though. He probably wants money or to kill him.

My prediction: Saxon was molested by his dad and now he is going to molest his little brother because that’s how it’s done in that family. 🤷🏼 Then Lachlan will be expected to work in the family business.

Lachlan should say fuck Duke and UNC and go to school in California.

[quote] Urban Cowboy Scott Glenn?

No, Rose. Gossip Girl Scott Glenn.

Silence of the Lambs Scott Glenn would be perfectly acceptable, too.

Young Scott Glenn was HOT.

Will we ever get to see Jason Isaacs' nipples unsheathed from their polo shirts?

Yes based on interviews Jason Isaacs does get naked at some point r291. He doesn't just leave it to the younguns.

I think it’s possible Mommy molested Saxon, not Daddy.

R226, she’s famous for playing the journalist Christine Everhart in the Iron Man films.

R276 Brother and sister or two brothers?

R281 For fuck's sake, she's not Simon's daughter. They aren't even of the same nationality. How hard is to Google her?

R283 I know him from The Leftovers where he played Justin Theroux's dad. And interestingly Carrie Coon plays Justin's girlfriend on that same show

I forgot the part that made me laugh the most......

Parker comes in the bedroom and says: "I got my second wind."

And Jason says: "Oh shit."

I'm going withommy being the molester. Thats why she has to stayed drugged at night.

R262: Beyond the beautiful scenery, it's a show with crappy acting and worse writing.

R44: Don't miss Collidge at all.

What about Coolidge, r301?

Don't miss her, either.

I assume Greg/Gary and the Canadian Le Bon are running a scam. It was all too contrived at the bar.

My wife was super annoyed at the excessive scoring.

[quote]Beyond the beautiful scenery, it's a show with crappy acting and worse writing.

The characters are spot-on. Lots of wealthy people just like the characters in all the seasons of White Lotus.

there's also The Right Stuff's Scott Glenn.

If only Aimee Lou Wood would starve herself sufficiently, the Brits could roll her out as the highest of fashion models. As they do.

But as an actor, she gives a slightly more intelligent Shelley Duvall vibe.

[quote]Girl that plays Mook is a big K-pop star.

"Lisa" is apparently the Beyonce of K-Pop and originally was in a group called BlackPink.

This video alone has 737 million views. She's huge over there.

r296 - Bitch - what part of NOT Simon's daughter do you not f*cking understadnd. Get ahold of yourself.

I hope we find out either Patrick's character or the brother's character is (are?) adopted!

Otherwise....ewwwwwwwwww

[quote] [R226], she’s "famous" (HA!) for playing the journalist Christine Everhart in the Iron Man films.

FIFY

[quote] I hope we find out either Patrick's character or the brother's character is (are?) adopted!

[quote]Otherwise....ewwwwwwwwww

Honey, they can't procreate with one another. It's not like their butt babies will be flipper children.

[quote] Beyond the beautiful scenery, it's a show with crappy acting and worse writing.

Yes, honey.

That's why we keep racking up so many Emmys.

This may come as a shock to you, but that is not people's only problem with incest r312.

I am okay with Mike White going there if he wants to broach it, but the whole point is it is meant to be disturbing and shocking.

R313: Emmys are meaningless.

By asking lil bro to stay in her room, I assumed the sisterr was trying to protect him from the older brother.

It crossed my mind that none of them are related, but that mostly down to the accents of Issacs and Posie.

R310 That would be terrible writing

You're in fucking Thailand, no one knows or cares what "Duke" is, you clueless gringo piece of shit.

I've never understood the big deal about same-sex incest either. The whole point of that taboo is to prevent fucked-up offspring, which are obviously impossible in such a pairing. Appeal to irrational sense of "ickiness" alone does not a valid argument make.

Some boundaries can be helpful, R319.

I would wrap myself around Patrick Schwarzenegger.

are they gearing up to do a Menedez brother type murder?

[quote] Patrick's character is clearly an incel. He has the looks to draw attention, but his personality is a total dud - note how he struck out with all the ladies at the pool and tried to brush it off with faux confidence. My guess is this will become more important as their week progresses, or maybe he finally lands someone and does crazy shit as a result.

I think he's going to take out his sexual frustration on his younger brother.

[quote] I think Parker's character is supposed to be completely off in her own world, she's not really supposed to fit normally into the family.

My guess is that either she's going to be the shooter, or it's going to be the black lady.

The black lady is on the verge of cracking. We don't know what happened in her life, but apparently, it was something bad and she went to Thailand to fix it.

When Zion heard the shots, and kept saying "I hope my mom is okay" over and over again, it made me think that she might actually be the shooter. That would be wild.

Otherwise, I think that Parker Posey's character (who is basically sleepwalking through life) will finally WAKE UP when she finds out that her perfect husband, her perfect kids, and her perfect life are not perfect at all.

Then she will finally open her eyes, and go ballistic by shooting everyone.

I subscribe to the theory that "it's always the quiet ones."

[quote] ZION IS HOT

He totally is!

I hope that either Patrick or his younger brother will hook up with Zion at some point.

Or maybe they'll be the threesome! Who knows?

[quote] White Lotus is one of the hottest tickets in town for any actor, if all it took was hooking up with Mike White guys would be killing each other to get a chance to knock on his door.

I was wondering why Patrick Schwarzenegger was crying, when he told his parents that he got the part.

He was literally CRYING.

Will all of the dumb cunts on this thread who keep whining about the "incest angle" please SHUT THE FUCK UP?????

You are all so fucking annoying, I wish you would just jump in a huge grease fire. Every single one of you.

Here's an idea. If you don't like it, then DON'T FUCKING WATCH THE SHOW!!!!

How about that???

Either that, or GO TO SLEEP!!! You dumb ass whiny complaining fucking FRAUCUNTS!

lol miss prisspot R325 has stated her boundaries!

Patrick was "shaking and crying" when he told his mom he got the part.

R325 No whining from me, I'm very much looking forward to any of the intriguing permutations Mike White will devise. A Dad & Saxon hook-up would be very hot - especially considering that no genetic abnormalities could result from it. It's true that it can also promote the sharing of beneficial microbes among family members. Now it's possible I would have reservations if Michelle and her gorgeous son were to become intimate, but that would seem so out-of-character for her that I doubt very much it is likely to happen. Still, you can't rule it out, Mike does like to push the boundaries. All in all, I think this is stacking up to be a lively season, even if there is no incest. But we'll see.

R319 So father - son is also okay to you? Or father/grandfather and infertile daughter/granddaughter are totally fine, since no one can get pregnant. Did I got that right?

[quote] So Carrie Coon's character is a big hotshot corporate executive. She's successful and well-off. Why does she not think she compares to the other two?

Because she’s 15% less hot.

R329 Of course, if they are consenting adults. And if they're not, well this is a work of fiction, remember?? As long as no humans are hurt in the making, all is permitted.

R331 I always thought I was cool with all manner of carnal relations, as long as participants are consenting - in life and in art. Then I was watching this comedy with the aging Jack Nicholson & Diane Keaton, their characters playing at romance. Towards the end of the film Keaton starts dating a younger, but by no means young, Keanu Reeves. Watching this I was hit by just a wave of revulsion, like actually physically disgusted by the thought of their union, because of the age difference! Totally surprised me, and I couldn't explain my ridiculous reaction. I guess some shit is so deeply ingrained, even when you know it's stupidly inconsequential, a pointless prejudice can still raise its ugly head.

R310 Like others here have said: they can't produce fucked up offsprings. I don't see the huge issue.

My guess about what will happen: there's rumors about "satanic gay incest". My guess is they are on drugs and that's how they lose their inhibitions, maybe they even start hallucinating? I also read that some of them go to Bangkok. Maybe Saxon takes Lachlan there to get him laid, then it gets out of hand and they fuck each other instead?

[quote]You're in fucking Thailand, no one knows or cares what "Duke" is, you clueless gringo piece of shit.

And gringo pieces of shit run the world.

Nobdy wants Latin America in charge of anything, ever.

They've only had one episode?

Season 3 premiered last Sunday, R336.

New episode every Sunday, with 8 episodes total.

[quote] They've only had one episode?

Judging by this thread, you'd think the season finale was next week.

R332 MARY!!!

One night in BANG COCK.

Watch out for the leaders of the DOUBLE DICK-TATORSHIP in BANG-COCK!

R335 I do. And I'm sure billions of people around the world would prefer if Latin Americans run the world, instead of greedy gringos

Read this yesterday.

"I think everyone is misunderstanding the dynamics at play in the trio

I think everyone is glossing over the main dynamic in the trio.

Jaclyn and Kate are not leaving the other girl out. They are interlocked in an uncomfortable and embarrassing display of insecurity. KATE is the aggressor, and the main personality establishing the toxic atmosphere. This is a one sided jealousy; Kate is incredibly envious of Jaclyn and covets what she has in life. At every turn she brings up something about Jaclyn that Jaclyn cannot control. (how young she looks, how she was “the face, of course”, how she handles fame)

I am sympathetic to Jaclyn. She shows no signs of enjoying these UNPROMPTED comments coming from Kate. She is uncomfortable and deflects by complimenting Kate back. She is sensing Kate’s all consuming jealousy and tries to dissipate it in the only way she knows; by fawning and trying to placate Kate’s obvious insecurities. She also is the only one who tries to include Laurie. Kate never does. The thing is when she tries to include Laurie she knows she cannot give the same shallow compliment to her that she gave to Kate. She tries to compliment Laurie in a way that reflects who Laurie is. Laurie isn’t shallow like Kate, and it’s hard for her to find a suited compliment (on theme with the conversation) to give someone who isn’t following a shallow game of complimenting looks and money/fame. This is why it comes out so awkward in my opinion (“what you do is so hard”)

What Laurie is being left out of isn’t a friendship. It’s a thinly veiled back and forth filled with bitterness and discomfort. This is a Jaclyn sympathy post; the real instigator here is Kate in my opinion. She shoots Jacyln with compliments, slipping them into the most innocuous conversations. She is consumed by Jaclyn.

This isn’t a third wheel situation. This is a ringleader (Kate) sinking the friendship and Jaclyn too passive to stop Kate’s jealousy from consuming the entire energy of the room. Poor Laurie is not upset bc she’s excluded but upset because she’s realizing there is no friendship to begin with. There is nothing there to be a part of. Nothing she would want to be a part of anyways."

Okay Freud.

I like the way r343 thinks. Thanks for this thoughtful analysis. r344 is just consumed with jealousy that they or so surface that they can't probe this deeply and try to use "biting" (but toothless) humor to cover for it.

I agree 100% with r343 - Bibb's character is extremely toxic and unhappy, and Monaghan's character, at worst, just seems kind of dumb. And I think Coon is just thinking "Why did I subject myself to this shitty dynamic again?????"

^ [carat] they are so surface

We are but one episode in. Anyone’s analysis is “so surface.”

Thanks, guys. Nice to get off the subject of incest for a while.

Rumors of satanic gay incest? Where? Some conservative Christian place?

I can’t tell if the incest enthusiasts are for real or just trolling. Don’t get me wrong - I will watch it if that’s where the story goes. It’s the posters who think there’s nothing wrong with it that are throwing me.

I'm re-watching the 2nd season right now since I want to watch more of the 3rd season and its (frustratingly) only being released an episode at a time.

It is interesting to see how much Jennifer Coolidge's humor and the superb score buoyed that season--I think they are both huge losses this season, although i am willing to see where they go with Parker Posey's character (my sense is that she will be played for laughs the most).

One thing it's intriguing to see about the previous season on a second watch is how bored I get with the Cameron and Daphne characters, even though Theo James is so hot. Part of the problem with having a show center on extremely shallow people like Cameron and Daphne is that other than their beauty and money there's very little to them, so whenever they're on screen in the first few episodes I mostly want them to go away. I will say, though, that Mike White did a good job making Daphne more layered than she initially seems, so by the later episodes where she's clearly hinting to Harper (Aubrey Plaza) that Cameron is not the father of their children, and that she finds ways to get back at him for his selfishness and womanizing, she actually becomes more interesting. it helps that Fahy is a good enough actress that she can bring out these sides to the character; unfortunately, for all his hotness, Theo James (while perfectly adequate) is not given more to do with his role.

It's funny because many Dataloungers always want more hot male naked bodies on primetime dramas and that's about it, but I would just as soon watch porn for that if the characters are not interesting--and being able to suffer is what usually the only thing that makes shallow people interesting. So flat rich male characters with good bodies (like Cameron, or Shane the first season, or maybe Saxon this season unless they develop him further) just aren't interesting to me after i get a good look at their bodies the first episode and my lustful curiosity is satisfied. After that, they had better be more layered and be played by men who can actually act.

[quote] I can’t tell if the incest enthusiasts are for real or just trolling. Don’t get me wrong - I will watch it if that’s where the story goes. It’s the posters who think there’s nothing wrong with it that are throwing me.

But, it's wrong! [italic]Shockingly[/italic] wrong!

R315, go to hell!

[quote]Emmys are meaningless.

But even more so is your opinion, since you're just one person.

R343, that makes sense. One of the show's strengths is the desperate passive-aggressive dialogue, those scenes where everyone knows something is going wrong but no one can actually say what they are thinking.

So has anyone figured out what's wrong with Zion's mom?

What is she doing in Thailand?

Is she really going to be the shooter, as R323 suggested?

The White Lotus is adjusting its reservation list for Season 3: Actor Miloš Biković will no longer appear in the upcoming season of HBO‘s luxury resort anthology, TVLine has confirmed, following protests about his casting from Ukrainian officials.

“We have decided to part ways with Miloš Biković, and the role will be recast,” a spokesperson said in a statement. HBO hasn’t released character details for Season 3 yet, but Deadline reports that Biković was to have played the small recurring role of Russian Valentin, a flirtatious yogi and the hotel’s Life Enhancement Mentor — a role that will now be filled by Shadow and Bone’s Julian Kostov (as of Feb. 6).

HBO came under fire last month after casting Biković, a Serbian-Russian actor, due to his ties to the Russian government and his perceived support for the invasion of Ukraine via interviews and social media posts. (Biković was granted Russian citizenship by a decree signed by Russian President Vladimir Putin in 2021.) After he was cast, Ukraine’s ministry of foreign affairs directly asked HBO on social media: “Is it all right for you to work with a person who supports genocide & violates international law?”

Biković released a statement of his own after his departure, which reads in part: “I was honored to be chosen to be a part of [The] White Lotus, a TV series that I hold in high regard and with colleagues whom I deeply respect. However, my participation is not possible due to reasons beyond the realm of art and I will not bow to any narrative that seeks to compromise my integrity.”

Jason Issacs is so hot I would lick sand off his nuts.

I wonder if Dad will kill his whole family to “spare” them rather than tell them he’s lost their fortune? Like that killer List in NJ way back when.

R350 No, those are spoilers from reviewers who have seen the first 5 or 6 episodes.

This trailer seems to hold a few clues on what transpires during the season...

I’m not buying the interpretation at R343. The whole thing is being viewed from Carrie Coon’s point of view. Of course this is about her feelings.

[quote] This isn’t a third wheel situation. This is a ringleader (Kate) sinking the friendship and Jaclyn too passive to stop Kate’s jealousy from consuming the entire energy of the room. Poor Laurie is not upset bc she’s excluded but upset because she’s realizing there is no friendship to begin with. There is nothing there to be a part of. Nothing she would want to be a part of anyways."

For fucking crying out loud. You got all of this (gesturing broadly) from three four minute scenes in a single episode.

Sometimes the simple explanation is the correct explanation. Obviously one of three women is feeling excluded. The question is why and what the backstory is.

I really hope the usual TWOP-era buzzards aren’t going to descend upon these threads with their overcomplicated, overwrought analyses. It’s such a fucking turn off.

Nicholas Galitzine and Patrick Schwarzenegger would make a cute couple with their beefy manly butts bumping away together.

Party night with the siblings!

Valentin likes the boys, AND the booze!

R359 but would you lick the shit off his assHOLE?

R345 you are 100% right..I am consumed with jealousy. Especially when talking to Freud

I believe they will get high and drunk, the older brother will make a move on his sister and will invite the younger brother to join in but he will be more interested in his older brother than in his sister

r370 I believe he will want to take his sister's virginity but fail and the younger brother will offer his.

What Nifty plots y’all are coming up with.

r372 it's not a plot, it's my fantasy I recreate with my he man toys.

[quote] “We have decided to part ways with Miloš Biković, and the role will be recast,” a spokesperson said in a statement. HBO hasn’t released character details for Season 3 yet, but Deadline reports that Biković was to have played the small recurring role of Russian Valentin, a flirtatious yogi and the hotel’s Life Enhancement Mentor — a role that will now be filled by Shadow and Bone’s Julian Kostov (as of Feb. 6).

I prefer Milos (right) over Julian.

I will lose interest if incest becomes a major theme.

R375 You seem like the sensitive sort, why don't you check back in 7 weeks, we'll let you know whether you should bother watching. For now, just put it out of your head and feel better.

[quote] I will lose interest if incest becomes a major theme.

BYE!!!

In fact, why don't you leave NOW, so that we don't have to listen to your INCESSANT, FUCKING WHINING any more.

Goddamn, you fucking FrauCunts are tiresome. And you just repeat yourselves over, and over, and over again.

GO AWAY!!!!

[quote]I wonder if Dad will kill his whole family to “spare” them rather than tell them he’s lost their fortune? Like that killer List in NJ way back when.

And then just when they're dead, he'll discover he actually won the lottery, like on "Roseanne."

[quote] My sister and BIL live in Chapel Hill NC. They think Isaacs' accent is even better than Posey's. Very specific and not easy to pull off. Posey's is just kind of generic druggy Southern woman.

I agree. I have so many semi-shady Southern cousins and uncles and they all have that faux-snooty, I-don’t-pronounce-my-Rs accent. It makes the hair stand up on the back of my neck.

I based my initial evaluation of Parker's accent on the trailer, but have reversed my position after watching the episode. Her delivery seems quite natural for the character of Victoria. I loved the "scratch my arm" bit, I'll bet she's an ASMR freak.

Parker Posey is going to end up killing everyone!

Just wait and see.

I am trying to wait until they air the entire season. I know I'm spoiled, but I prefer all episodes to be available before I start watching something.

People who enjoy waiting a week are psychopaths.

[quote]People who enjoy waiting a week are psychopaths.

Or perfectly adjusted adults who can control their needs and wants. You know, not MAGAts.

R383 Yeah....OR psychopaths

R350 Here you go... it's a quote from Mike White himself.

Or, R382, We are Gen X or later and grew up with new episodes airing each week and this is not unusual to us. While we may enjoy streaming services and doing a binge watch, we can also exercise patience.

Having said this, i gave up on Lost when it was first broadcast as I missed an episode and could not keep up. It wasn't until Netflix (with DVDs in the mail) that I could really enjoy it.

R382, you must be one of those coddled, grew up with your face glued to electronics. You'd have never survived being born before streaming.

Half the fun of waiting the week are the discussions about each episode. I remember going to school and discussing the latest episode of whatever trashtastic miniseries was aired.

HBO has almost always released episodes off all of their series on a weekly basis. Get over it precious.

Even worse are those that come to threads like this and complain about being spoiled… don’t read the thread until you’ve watched the latest episode! I’m sure as the season progresses we’ll get some of those types showing up and screeching too.

It will not be Incest incest. It will turn out Patrick is not a biological child. So fucking his brother will be okay.

I never had a chance to watch the first two seasons of White Lotus, but I started subscribing to MAX in December, and just watch the first four episodes of Season 1.

This show is so good!

I watched episode one of Season 3, and I can't believe how much funnier Season 1 was, in comparison.

I absolutely love that the hotel manager is a gaslighting, former addict who gets off on torturing the entitled rich guy. That is so fucking hilarious!

And the entitled rich guy is equally hilarious, in his rivalry with the manager. It's hilariously ridiculous!

The Jennifer Coolidge character is amazing. So glad this show gave her a comeback.

Oh, and Steve Zahn is very sexy. I loved him in Joy Ride acting along side Paul Walker back in 2001 and he still looks good today. He's aged a bit, but he still has a youthful quality.

I have two more episodes to go, but I'm loving Season 1.

Very curious about Season 2, but I'm guessing it can't possibly be as good as Season 1.

Season 3 is looking promising, though.

Season 2 was better than Season one IMHO.

People pointing out about this season not being as comedic, worth pointing out Mike White did describe it as much darker than previous seasons

Is r390 really mansplaining Season 1 to us? Gurl... catch the f*ck up...

R391, agreed. Meghann Fahy’s character, in particular, was so psychologically layered and intriguing.

Loved Meghann Fahy in S2. Very sexy lady.

I give S2 the edge over S1 in part because I hated Britton and Zahn’s kids, especially the boy. That actor bugs me in everything he’s in.

I wish Jake Lacy and Lucas Gage would come back.

Love them!

[quote] I give S2 the edge over S1 in part because I hated Britton and Zahn’s kids, especially the boy

This is the first time I've seen Sydney Sweeney in anything, and I think that she's quite ugly.

I don't know why Hollywood is trying to make her out to be some great beauty.

She's very unattractive.

r396 quite big tits

If they’re going to have repressed, perverted incestuous gays, at least make them Republican. You know, for authenticity.

The Ratliff family is obviously Republican.

They haven’t really dug into anyone’s politics, but the Ratliffs are totes MAGA. Jennifer Coolidge must have been a Democrat (impressed by the thought of Greg being in Black Lives Matter), and most of the others seem to be monied liberals. It would be great to see a Deplorable family lose their wealth.

Different strokes, I guess, but nothing beats Season 1, some of the best series TV ever. I adore Fred Hechinger, but then everybody was perfectly cast.

What I can't believe is how, with each new season, the cast members, both old and new, are virtually adored, DEVOURED, by the public and then once it's over, White Lotus doesn't seem to have had much effect on any of their careers. Well, maybe with the exception of Jennifer Coolidge and Sydney Sweeney. But what's become of Murray Bartlett, Steve Zahn, Alexandra D'darrio, Jake Lacy, those Italian girls, Meghann Whateverhernameis, the hot young actor who played Michael Imperioli's son (I can't even remember his name), et. al???

Oh, and that hot young Hawaiian stud who I followed on Insta for a while.

I'm not sure the show is valued so much for being career transformative--anthology shows like this and "American Horror Story" (for example) almost never are. (In fact, most shows with enormous casts rarely are: which stars emerged from "Game of Thrones" other than a tiny handful, like Jason Momoa and Pedro Pascal?)

I think instead it's a matter of these shows potentially offering really fine work (when they're well written) for serious and dedicated actors for a season. I've also been disappointed, for example, that Murray Bartlett did not find better work after Season 1 (where he was so electrifying), but I'm sure if you asked him he'd say that just getting to do that part was a huge reward=--I'm sure he's rarely been given a part that well written in his entire TV and film career., and he certainly is someone who cares more about the work than the fame. The same is likely true for Carrie Coons who was already a standout in the first episode.

[quote]The same is likely true for Carrie Coons who was already a standout in the first episode.

Well, Carrie is generally the best thing about any project she's in. Watching her scenes with the Streep spawn in "The Gilded Age" was like watching Muhammad Ali go five rounds with Kaleb from Shriners.

[quote] Oh, and that hot young Hawaiian stud who I followed on Insta for a while.

Kekoa Kekumano.

He's on a show called "Rescue Hi Surf" now.

[quote] What I can't believe is how, with each new season, the cast members, both old and new, are virtually adored, DEVOURED, by the public and then once it's over, White Lotus doesn't seem to have had much effect on any of their careers.

I was just thinking this about Lucas Gage.

However, when I looked up his Wiki page, it seems he has had a lot of work.

Just nothing as high profile as White Lotus.

Sabrina Impacciatore (the italian manager in season two) has a role in Viola Davis' upcoming big action movie G20 lol

Yes actors rarely get roles as juicy as the roles that White Lotus offers them. And it is a show beloved by the "coastal elites", everyone in the industry watches White Lotus. That makes it great for actors because any event you go to everyone wants to talk to you about it and sing your praises.

What is “G20 lol”

[quote] She's very unattractive.

You know what, has it crossed your mind that you might be gay?

[quote] Gage is gay. Hairstylist Chris Appleton confirmed his relationship with Gage on The Drew Barrymore Show in March 2023, and early the following month the pair became engaged. Nineteen days later, Appleton and Gage were married. On November 13, 2023, Appleton filed for divorce from Gage, citing irreconcilable differences.

R407, this is why they hate us

It seems like submission/domination is a big plot point this season. In the Goggins couple, he says she’s the crazy one - I think they're going to buck the stereotype of older boyfriend/young doormat girlfriend and it’ll turn out she pulls the strings. The hierarchy of the three friends is pretty obvious, and I think a fight for domination within the group will be what leads to their fallout.

And with the family - there was the whole convo about how dad is so rich and has a perfect family and everyone loves him. Obviously we don’t know yet, but my guess is he molested the older son, and now the older son is molesting his little brother. Another hierarchy. I could be way off on this, but just thought it was an interesting thread carried through all the characters.

Is the younger brother supposed to be developmentally disabled in some way? Or is he just painfully shy and sheltered? If it’s the former, then I do hope they don’t go the incest route. That would probably be a step too far.

Okay, at this point I have to believe all the idle incest speculation is about baiting more rage posts from R377.

So curious what the reaction here would be if there turned out to be zero incest for the rest of the season

It’d be a positive reaction from me! I don’t want that shit.

Let Saxon or Lachlan hook up with some hot guys that are not related to them.

He's RETARTED, R414.

Can't you tell?

R416 The incest is a confirmed by Mike White himself. It will happen. People who have seen the first few episodes all talk about an incest plot.

Maybe Saxon gets a girl for his brother so Lachlan can lose his virginity, and then joins in for a threesome. But, he ends up banging his brother himself and pushing the girl out of the way.

Then Lachlan is terribly conflicted about this.

I hope they don’t go the Thai ladyboy or Asian female prostitute route. That’s been done so much.

Uncle Rico Greg is back, guess he wasn't actually dying?

He must be quite happy, I'm sure he had some sizeable insurance policies on Tanya, plus he didn't have to split any of it with the posthumous hit crew.

So retarded people can’t also be shy? That’s discrimination.

[quote]He's RETARTED,

Yeah, we don't really use that word anymore, but, if we do, we know how to spell it. #dumbass

R425 - that was Melania. It’s the Slovenian spelling. It’s her term of endearment for Lurch.

Parker Posey is perfect for the pharma mom role. Totally plays loopy and rich so perfectly!

[quote] Parker Posey is perfect for the pharma mom role. Totally plays loopy and rich so perfectly!

This is almost the exact role she played in "You've Got Mail" as Tom Hanks' girlfriend.

Except she was an empty, shallow and vapid New Yorker, not a Southerner.

None of the three Ratliff kids read “Southern” to me. The sister, especially.

r407 Why would they hate us for that? Kim Kardashian was married for 20 minutes and got divorced.

Agreed R429. They read east coast to me.

North Carolina is East Coast

and Raleigh is a Northern city with southern charms.

Should have specified northern east coast then. They don't seem southern except for the accents.

How does one "read" Southern? Other than an accent.

I think Patrick's costumes and styling read very Southern spoiled preppie.

Saxon reads as a DJTJr twerp to me, minus the coke-addled behavior. Or at least that's how Patrick appears to be playing him.

The lady owner of the resort is a Lady Boy mark my words

Posey is from the South but the accent seems affected. North Carolina has a rather distinctive accent--think Andy Griffith or for a grating version, think Charlie Rose. No one sounds like that here.

Honey, if I wanted to complain about bad Hollywood versions of my native accent I'd be here all night.

I saw the movie Fargo several times in the theater. Each time during the credits, there was a variant of “We don’t sound like that” in the thickest of Minnesota accents. Blanche, you do sound like that.

I don't want to take over this thread, r441, but you're no judge whatsoever unless you have lived there for some time. Otherwise it's like saying Dick van dyke sounds just like real Londoners in "Mary Poppins."

Thanks for the lesson, r440. I lived there for 30 years and still have family there. You have no right to get snippy with me!

The Ratliff sister looks Latina. Saxon does not look like a WASP— WASP men are softer looking, not as wolfish. Lachlan looks like a prototypical nice Jewish boy.

Why was the sister dressed up like a Mormon girl? And why is she shy about entering the Temple and meeting the monk or whoever?

[quote] Saxon does not look like a WASP— WASP men are softer looking, not as wolfish.

Good lord.

He's White Austro Saxon Protestant.

Good one, R447

Sam Nivola, who plays Lochlan Ratliffe, is gonna explode like Timothee Chalamet once that episode airs

Lochy is so cute. I hope he doesn’t turn out to be a total monster or something

R444 okay… can I have some of what your on?

I haven’t seen the show but I just read that when the guy walked naked to the bathroom and then turned around and closed the door, he was hard and it was shown. Is that true?

Nope

He walked naked to the bathroom and we saw his ass. When he turned around to close the door, his dick was not shown. Above waist only.

A few moments later he was bent over the bathroom counter setting up his iPad and we saw his flaccid dick reflected in the mirror. Wasn't that special of a scene. Probably a prosthetic dick.

I lived in RDU for eight years. Most of them have a midwestern accent, not a thick southern drawl. There are some words that are very southern. Y'all, fixen... but mostly they sound like average midwesterners.

[quote] I haven’t seen the show but I just read that when the guy walked naked to the bathroom and then turned around and closed the door, he was hard and it was shown. Is that true?

It wasn't hard.

It was shown, but it was in shadow, and you had to sue a freeze-frame to really see it. Do a search for "Patrick Schwarzenegger nude" on DL and you'll find it.

It's really not worth the search.

Nothing to see there, toots.

R455 when I was there, the predominant accent was mid-Bengaluru.

I just finished Season 1.

The ending was kind of depressing.

The manager died. Belinda got screwed over. The cute Hawaiian guy went to jail. And trophy wife Rachel just gave in. The spoiled asshole Shane got his way,

The only one who had a happy ending was Quinn, who escaped his horrible family. Oh, and Tanya, who screwed over Belinda.

Season 2 was off to a slow start for me, but I'm up to Episode 4, and it's picking up.

Love the Italian hookers. Love the Ice Queen hotel manager. Love Albie. How could he possibly be attracted to that fugly midget who is Tanya's assistant? She looks like Jill Whelan from The Love Boat.

Curious about the psychic, and why she was all worked up about Tanya, after she read the cards. And I can't believe that Greg is cheating on Tanya.

Oh, and Theo James is so hot! He makes a perfect DOUCHEBRO. I was kind of hoping that he and Ethan would hook up, while their wives were away.

I had to take a break, but I can't wait to get back to Episode 4. There are seven episodes in Season 2, so one more than in Season 1.

Now I finally see why people were so hyped about Season 3. This really is a great show.

[quote] Love Albie. How could he possibly be attracted to that fugly midget who is Tanya's assistant? She looks like Jill Whelan from The Love Boat.

OMG, she does!!

[quote] Curious about the psychic, and why she was all worked up about Tanya, after she read the cards. And I can't believe that Greg is cheating on Tanya.

R459 Your second sentence is connected to the first one. Also: Did you not notice in S1 that Greg went for a vigorous swim of laps in the hotel pool...then later tells Tanya he has a terminal illness? How many terminally ill people do you imagine are capable of that kind of athleticism given their health?

Keep watching S2. If you're at episode 4, you're getting close to these things getting explained.

R460, the Gypsy fortune teller scene is exceptional. Coolidge is so funny ("Why are you NEGATIVE?) that the fact that you are watching a classic horror movie scene doesn't fully register. Sorry, the cards never lie . . .

Interestingly, the fortune teller told Tanya that Greg was involved with someone beautiful (Tanya's response: "Is it ME?")... I knew it could not be Tom Hollander, who is not a beautiful man.

If you want to accessorize for the next watch party, here's just a few White Lotus themed items to get you started.

I picked up my White Lotus edition CoffeeMate at Target today.

r463, is it possible for me buy makeup so I can approximate the subtle look of the Thai woman who co-owns The White Lotus with her husband?

SUBTLE?!?!

Anyone try the White Lotus inspired Coffee Mate creamers? Comes in Thai Iced Coffee and Piña Colada! How fancy.

Available at Target.

R466 Uh yes indeed, luscious.

Coffee Mate? That shit is still around? Wasn't that secretary shit in the 80s?

R35, do we really need a skinny Belinda? I like great, big, jolly Belinda!

Oops r463 didn’t realize you had just posted about it! Right above me 🤦🏼‍♂️

I’m tempted to get the Thai iced coffee. Sounds good!

I just can't wait until the next episode!

Desperately hoping the cute little brother gets a gay love interest. Maybe Zion? Or the Russian trainer?

Scratch my arm

LOL

After only one episode, and little more than 100 posts to go in this thread, how many continuations will be needed.? Haven't checked, but I'll bet there are probably several active parallel threads.

Mike White has struck gold with this franchise.

[quote] There will be tons of shots of Buddhas (symbolizing spiritual ideals) and also of monkeys (symbolizing human desires and bad behavior) throughout the season

Sounds very Adela Quested.

r474 just wait until the straight people shit happens. The replies will go down FAST

Carrie Coon really should've changed her last name before she went into showbiz.

I've known several people who went to Thailand. They all got diarrhea.

I thought I was safe drinking only fruit juice, until someone told me, oh no they always water down their juices here.

[quote] If you want to accessorize for the next watch party, here's just a few White Lotus themed items to get you started.

I watch this show on MAX, and before every episode, there's a commercial with Patrick S. as "bartender" for the White Lotus, serving up Ketel One vodka and Tanqueray gin.

I love that commercial, and it always makes me thirsty for a White Lotus martini.

This is from LSA:

See No Evil • Hear No Evil • Speak No Evil

As it relates to the characters imo (at least so far): Saxon is creepy fµck but he doesn't see what he does as harmful; Piper tries to block out evil that happens around her (which adds to her repression), Lochlan keeps quiet about weird sh!t that he sees (he didn't seem very surprised at his brother walking around naked in front of him).

I do chuckle that Saxon is named for one of Space Karen’s spawn…or just a coincidence?

[quote] I've known several people who went to Thailand. They all got diarrhea.

I didn’t. I’ve never become sick in SE Asia, but I only tended to drink,m fresh coconuts, cans of soft drink and beer and hot tea.

Brazil and Chile were another story.

Parker Posey said she wanted her character to have “meme-ble lines” so she is definitely playing it with humor

The best line from episode one:

[quote] “You'll notice a lot of bald white guys in Thailand. The locals call them LBHs: Losers Back Home.” —Chloe (Charlotte Le Bon)

HA!!

^^In the preview for the rest of the season, she says "Lorazepam" in a pretty meme-able way.

R459 Haley Lu Richardson is hot

R461 "Sorry, the cards never lie" Sure, neither does reading from your coffee cup, tea leaves, crystal balls or squeezing the goat's testicles.

What is the glamorous, older Thai lady's secret?

R489 she seemed obsessed with the actress lady

I don't get the whole brouhaha over the new theme music.

Actually the Season2 theme seems more appropriate for Thailand. So many monkey-like sounds.

I always skip the intro. Does it change with each episode? Different pictures and such?

Do new episodes drop at 6:00pm or 9:00 pm on the west coast? (I have MAX for Roku, if that makes a difference.)

6pm for West Coast.

Parker Posey reminds me of Bianca Jagger!

After tonight, there's a two week gap for the next episode.

That's not correct r497. The next episode will air next Sunday, March 2nd. Why would you think there would randomly be a break?

r481

Which of the three fraus will draw first blood?

My guess is that the really hot life trainer focuses in on the Coons character, feeling her need, to the the consternation of the others.

R491 Because the first two seasons had the same song (way catchier than this season's song) but just different versions to fit the location. This season's theme song is completely different than first two seasons, and not quite as good.

Okay, I didn't that one coming.

Didn't WHAT, R503?

One major benefit of having the show delivered weekly, it's much easier to avoid spoilers. I'm out until I've watched tonight's episode.

I’ll need a screen cap of a certain opening scene from tonight. TIA.

oh my.

“I only made 10 million dollars!”

They need more Lochy scenes. He’s the best looking by a mile, even if he can barely act.

Saxon needs to get a new steroid dealer

[quote] What is the glamorous, older Thai lady's secret?

Pearl Creme!

This is more boring than the first episode which was pretty boring.

The resort’s general manager, Fabian, reminds me so much of actor Ken Marino (The State, The Other Two, Party Down, Wet Hot American Summer, etc).

Not necessarily his looks, but his facial expressions. Specifically the way he scrunches his forehead and does this little half smile thing. Anyone else see it?

The sister is such a virgin.

Not for long!

Think the robbers were the two bodyguard guys we saw last episode?

R515, that was my guess.

Valentin is a criminal!

R516, and Mook was connected with it too.

I think the things that are happening with the characters mean something.

[quote]This is more boring than the first episode which was pretty boring.

No question that's true. I joked to myself that what turned out to be the end of the episode was the end of the episode because it was such a stupid point to end the episode.

So boring. And the English chick with the big teeth is this season's wonked-out, wacky Jennifer Coolidge stand-in. And another robbery, like the first season? Mike White is repeating himself.

The ending did make me think Jason Isaacs would be the shooter. The way he was looking at his family led me to believe he’s the kind of guy who would rather they be dead than know his shame. He’ll try to shoot them, then himself.

He might get the wife and Saxon, but hopefully cute little Lochlan will survive.

The bucktooth girl looks just like Cassie from the first season of Skins. I keep waiting for her to say Sid.

Kind of a boring episode 2. Apart from the robbery nothing really happened to move the plot forward.

Maybe it’s me but I’m having a tough time being invested in these characters outside of the crazy family.

Halfway through tonight's episode... there is going to be something happening with a monkey with all the foreshadowing

Carrie Coon is serving Beth Karas.

I can’t un-see it.

It was a slow episode, but I liked it. It was mellow.

I hope Belinda makes a love connection with that other masseur. He is cute and had a nice body.

Parker’s accent goes in and out. She’s a great actress.

Patrick is very ok looking and has a flabby stomach.

She’s not a great actress

The bigger the front.....the bigger the back.

If she was a great actress, R529, her accent would not be going in and out.

Actually, Posey is the wonked-out, wacky Coolidge stand-in.

There is something about the dense, dark, overly vegetated environment, even the beaches, that is so claustrophobic and oppressing. I find it's distancing me from the characters, at least so far. There's so little sunlight, which was a major element of the first 2 seasons.

I do keep reminding myself that last season didn't really get going until E4. Even the brilliant S1 took a few episodes to lure me in.

Uh, Posey wishes she was the wonked-out, wacky Coolidge stand-in.

Nothing about any of the seasons of this show would I call brilliant. I would say repetitive. You have the oversexed hot straight guy (Schwarzenegger), who's the Theo James stand-in; you have the younger brother, who's the stand-in for the younger brother in the first season...

The profile shot of Will Sharpe in the shower in season 2 was brilliant.

I’ve been trying to place the actor who plays Lachlan, and realized he played Lee Polk, the teenage boy who was raped by his father, in Eileen. The big reveal in that movie is that his mother knew all along and allowed it / helped the father by giving him a bath and an enema every night before bed. With the bizarre, incestuous vibes in the Ratcliff family, I almost wonder if it’s headed in that same direction. Or maybe that would be too sick, even for White.

Do you guys like,… watch the show and try to enjoy the performances and plot? Or do you just spend all your time comparing it to the other seasons? If PP was giving fully tilt Tonya I feel like it’d just be a bunch of complaining that she’s copying her. The show always takes its time, soaks us in the environment and characters and their petty grievances for a few episodes before things ramp up.

I do enjoy how when one of the trio of ladies is gone the other two cunt her to shreds.

How many episodes in an already limited series does it take for something to happen, R539? Apparently half of every season.

Having sex in Thailand is like a box of chocolates... lolz. He is obnoxious but at least Saxon is entertaining.

Ladyboy!

There are still 6 episodes to go people. Which season 1 was only 6 episodes long in total. There is always the getting to know the characters first.

And there's never that much to know, R544. They're almost exclusively rich and shallow. How many episodes should it take?

I've just recently watched the first two seasons and they also start out very slow, while White introduces us to the characters and shows us what the tensions are among them. Very little happened in the first two episodes of either of the previous seasons.

I'm actually enjoying the mystery of what the Walton Goggins character is after from the Thai lady's husband (is he his father?), and also what was up with the backstabbing Austin woman and PP's Victoria. (Something happened between them that PP's character, Victoria, doesn;t want to be reminded of, even though as always her character was stoned out of her mind.)

I did really enjoy the backstabbing among the three friends. They have so much resentment towards one another.

2. Now we should start cooking with gas!

One thing I really liked in this episode were the fiery flares from the kitchen when we first saw Greg/Gary at dinner, and then again when Timothy Ratliff walked by the kitchen to take the call from Kenny. They are both men who have made deals with the devil.

Calling it now: Timothy is the one messing with Lochlan. Saxon being a creep is just a red herring.

R506, here is a High Definition gif of Patrick's ass, while being checked out by his little bro in the next bed: 🍑

Another snooze. I switched over to The Black Dahlia.

The film with Josh Hartnett, R551? It does have a few redeeming qualities -- Josh looks great in 1940's clothes and there is Oscar-nominated Cinematography.

Also an ass shot of Josh:

Ke Huy Quan (Short Rounds from Indiana Jones movie) was the voice of Kenny on the phone

The english chick is butt ugly!

Walter Goggins' character is very one-note thus far.

I thought whatsisname was going to start fapping to Patrick's ass. Pity.

What do we think the “satanic” gay plotline Mike White mentioned is gonna be?

The imgBB pictures do not work for me, does anybody else have this?

Patrick said his racy scenes are in episodes five and six.

Walton Goggins’s girlfriend has sure got “the London look”!

My favorite part of tonight's episode was finding out that The Righteous Gemstones is back in March.

WootWoot R102, agree with everything.

I've known several men who told me they used to jerk off with their brothers. From what I was told, some of them just jerked off together because they were curious. Others told me it went further than that.

I would have thought Lacey was a bottom, if anything, but looking at the way he’s eying older bro’s ass, he may just be a top.

Strange how they heavily implied the incest storyline at the end of the last episode and how they largely abandoned it in this episode.

Patrick Schwarzenegger's ass is overrated.

are they trying to set up Lochlan as a top ? stupid

The voice acting of the guy on the phone was ridiculously over the top.

Valentin was in on the robbery. Kept talking to the guard to keep the gate open. Thieves were obviously the two body guards from Episode 1.

So was Mook in on it? She was being friendly to the guards

That’s what I figured, R569, and Mook and Valentin are probably fucking. That’s why she’s avoiding Gaitok’s overtures.

In the first episode Kate, wife of a sort of successful Texas businessman, humblebragged about protecting herself from fake friends , then this week has her own social climbing clocked and zapped dead immediately by Parker Posey, the wife of an ACTUAL successful businessman

The relationship between the cranky Tommy Bahama guy and dental spice is actually pretty sweet. You can see he actually cares for her when he finds her after the robbery. I’m starting to like them a lot.

Mike white is really good at fucking with us. We were lured into thinking Laurie was the “ quality” friend because he made her reserved and less pretty. But on second watch of the episode I noticed little hints in the dialogue that she was equally shallow to the others and lo and behold she’s just as much of a backstabbing bitch as they are. I hate them all and hope they die in a circular firing squad.

I could listen to Parker Posey order thai food all day long

Are Greg/Gary and the French Canadian (Meagan Draper!) model scamming Tommy Bahama and Dental Spice? Were they behind the robbery?

What’s a red herring and what’s a clue?

Wouldn’t it be hilarious if Portia showed up in one of her dumb Gilligan island hats

R456 Freeze framing? GOD, is it really worth all of that?

Episode 1 was surprisingly boring and I expected the hotel and property to be breath-taking, but they weren't.

A hate watch with beautiful photography. The most annoying things are the fangirls who don't like it when bad direction or repetitive storytelling are exposed.

R575 It’s a little early in the game to call the season out for bad direction or repetitive storytelling since this show is pretty much designed around the idea of red herrings, subverted expectations and the intentional misdirection of viewers’ sympathies.

One thing I noticed this episode: We had at least three moments in episode two where people are characterized as prostitutes.

Victoria calls Jaclyn (and all actresses, categorically) a prostitute at breakfast when her kids challenge her snobbish behavior towards the cougars

Saxon assumes his masseuse is a prostitute and gets frustrated by her failure to provide a happy ending.

Then Rick decides Chloe is a prostitute based on the backstory she and Rick provide at dinner.

Meanwhile Valentin is very quietly playing the cougars against each other and setting himself up as a prize to be fought for. I think he’s the real whore of the cast.

R565 Did you miss Lochlan looking at Saxton's ass?

Why did Parker Posey and Lesley Bibb have such an awkward "remember me" moment? Will that come back to haunt one of them later on?

Was it my imagination or did Saxon pitch quite a tent when they showed him face up on the table?

I'm loving Carrie Coon.

R576: Like most people, I love it when someone proves me right.

r578. Victoria is a distrustful snobby, happily disassociated bitch who is not interested in palling around with anyone other than her family and her pharmacist. She does not realize it but she is on a collision course with a Schitt's Creek level reversal of fortune so yes, we can anticipate her to be embarrassingly humbled.

[quote] The most annoying things are the fangirls who don't like it when bad direction or repetitive storytelling are exposed.

R575 is right. The excuse that 2 or 3 episodes can be crap and boring because then it will pick up is pretty lame. It's bad writing, period.

Belinda seems sweet. I hope she makes some time with the masseur.

Leslie Bibb is playing her character from GCB. Loved that show.

Little Lochy wants his brother to fuck him SO bad. Wondering if they’re not actually related.

[quote]*The two older men's girlfriends--the British one from "Sex Education" and the Le Bon daughter--will be the equivalent of the two Italian girls from the second season (I'm not quite sure what that means)

They are whores, darlin’.

It’s kind ridiculous that the younger brother doesn’t offer to service Saxon. I think Saxon would have taken him up on the offer.

Charlotte LeBon Is not related to Simon or Yasmin Lebon in any way.

Was it not a little weird and unrealistic that the violent robbery in the jewelry shop didn't seem to affect the evening's festivities just a bit? The hostess and guests all seemed to take it as an everyday occurrence.

“He needs to calm his ass down” is my new catchphrase.

Dental Spice is in Danger. "I almost died!" 2x dismissed by others feels like foreshadowing, especially when paired with the story of the girl whose warnings of tsunami went unheaded "They didn't listen to her!"

That Snake bracelet she was admiring in the shop. 100% She is going to see it somewhere and put 2 and 2 together and become a target.

The show must go on, 590.

There are most certainly robbery, assaults of every description and deaths of in hotels, probably monthly. They’re not going to hold a dirge or post apologies in the lobby.

It was weird that the security guard stayed on duty after being attacked.

[quote] In the first episode Kate, wife of a sort of successful Texas businessman, humblebragged about protecting herself from fake friends , then this week has her own social climbing clocked and zapped dead immediately by Parker Posey, the wife of an ACTUAL successful businessman

Leslie Bibb’s character trades in gossip, I didn’t see her as a particular social climber, her behaviour seemed pretty normal.

Parker Posey’s inherent wackiness gives a new angle to this kind of monied matriarch, but she’s coming off as a more “trashy” than polished - she doesn’t have the body language. I can better imagine her being one of those doped to the eyeballs eccentric aging Southern Belles who loves her sons a little too much if she were a Patricia Clarkson type.

Someone make a new thread so we don’t get half a dozen ‘part 2’s’

Thanks

There ya go

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The Ratliffs are definitely new money.

Victoria is loopy and weird, but her eccentricity isn’t of the old money variety.

And UNC, while a good school, isn’t really where an old money Southern family would send their daughter.

I’m guessing she and Tim are very self-made.

Victoria snubbed Leslie Bibb for some reason other than bring Victoria looking down on her.

R443 I say this with love, perhaps it’s time to get the hearing aids checked.