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So... What Politics News Journalists/Pundits Should We Uplift With Our Support? And...Who Must We Tear Down?

Uplift:

Meidas Touch

Rachel Maddow

Lawrence O'Donnell

Brian Tyler Cohen

Amy Goodman

Alex Wagner

Farron Cousins

Jessica Tarlove

Symone Sanders-Townsend

Michael Steele

(I do have more)

DESTROY... I mean ... Tear Down (apologies)

DAVID IGNATIUS

Joe Scarborough & Side Chick

Chris Cuomo

The Young Turks

Charlamagne The God

Jesse Watters

Jeanine Piro

James Carville

Katy Tur

Van Jones

(I do have more)

by Anonymousreply 152October 16, 2025 10:37 PM

Uplift Jim Acosta

Destroy Jake Tapper

by Anonymousreply 1February 4, 2025 6:51 PM

Only retards watch cable “news”.

by Anonymousreply 2February 4, 2025 6:51 PM

Why hate James Carville? He's old as dirt and crotchedy and rambly, but mostly on our side.

by Anonymousreply 3February 4, 2025 6:56 PM

Uplift: Chris Matthews

Destroy: Geralda Rivera AKA Jerry Rivers AKA...

by Anonymousreply 4February 4, 2025 6:56 PM

Suck shit

by Anonymousreply 5February 4, 2025 6:57 PM

[quote]Why hate James Carville? He's old as dirt and crotchedy and rambly, but mostly on our side.

You can do something where you have reached the point of no return

by Anonymousreply 6February 4, 2025 7:00 PM

Eric Sevareid

Walter Cronkite

John Chancellor

David Brinkley

by Anonymousreply 7February 4, 2025 7:00 PM

Uplift: 404 Media, ProPublica, Ken Klippensten, Wonkette

by Anonymousreply 8February 4, 2025 7:02 PM

Uplift: Ari Melber

Destroy: TIE! Harris Faulkner/ Kayleigh McEnany

by Anonymousreply 9February 4, 2025 7:04 PM

Uplift:

Margaret Hoover

Peter Baker

Bill Whitaker

Lesley Stahl

Peggy Noonan

Susan Glasser

Charlie Rose

Mo Rocca

by Anonymousreply 10February 4, 2025 7:12 PM

No to Lawrence O'Donnell. Don't you remember when he was recorded pulling a bill O'Reilly on his poor staff. He's a nasty old man.

by Anonymousreply 11February 4, 2025 7:15 PM

Dana Bash needs to go away for sure.

by Anonymousreply 12February 4, 2025 7:17 PM

On The Fence!

Anderson Cooper

by Anonymousreply 13February 4, 2025 7:19 PM

Uplift The Guardian and CBC News

Take a nasty, meaty shit on the entirety of the New York Times editorial page writers, and make sure you rub extra in Pamela Paul's hair.

by Anonymousreply 14February 4, 2025 7:25 PM

ProPublica is really good. I will add that we should uplift The Atlantic Magazine.

Question: Why dump Katy Tur? I don't watch her very often, but I am curious.

Ali Velshi, Stephanie Ruhle UPLIFT Van Jones is Monkey poop.

I think Acosta, Jim Sciutto, and Boris Sanchez should be uplifted as well as Brianna Keiler.

Dump Kristen Welker. Ugh.

Uplift Laura Coates and Abbie Phillips

by Anonymousreply 15February 4, 2025 7:27 PM

Uplift John King. He is unabashedly a Democrat. Even talked about how his family was on food stamps as a kid and they were very grateful for the program.

by Anonymousreply 16February 4, 2025 7:28 PM

[quote]Dump Kristen Welker. Ugh.

Definitely, DEFINITELY, destroy!!!

by Anonymousreply 17February 4, 2025 7:28 PM

Maybe get a life?

by Anonymousreply 18February 4, 2025 7:28 PM

[quote] I will add that we should uplift The Atlantic Magazine.

That's a good one!

by Anonymousreply 19February 4, 2025 7:30 PM

[quote]Question: Why dump Katy Tur?

She started to fall into the Andrea Mitchell/ Dana Bash area of overcompensating to the right to prove how “neutral” they are. She ends up spending more time battering Democrats and holding them to a different standard and kinda shrugs at any extreme GOP stuff.

by Anonymousreply 20February 4, 2025 7:39 PM

Every one of them that ridicules Trump. There's no room left to be a pussy.

by Anonymousreply 21February 4, 2025 7:50 PM

You could start with destroying journalists who open sentences with “So…”, OP.

by Anonymousreply 22February 4, 2025 7:51 PM

Clay Cane

Clay Cane

Clay Cane

Dahlia Lithwick

John Nichols

Tabitha Banks (TabithaSpeaksPolitics)

Reese Waters

Tennessee Brando

Amy Chen

Michaelangelo Signorile

Karen Hunter

Reecie Colbert

Allen Orr

Dumebi Lea

Malcolm Nance

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by Anonymousreply 23February 4, 2025 7:59 PM

^^UPLIFT THEM ALL^^

by Anonymousreply 24February 4, 2025 8:00 PM

I watch Cenk and The Young Turks, or I did in the weeks after the election, to hear their POV. They definitely aren't MAGA, but aren't afraid to call out the traditional corporate Democrats for failing the party. Cenk appears to be a leftover Bernie Bro of sorts.

by Anonymousreply 25February 4, 2025 8:20 PM

Uplift: Nicole Wallace

by Anonymousreply 26February 4, 2025 8:46 PM

I'm not seeing the need for Lawrence O'Donnell. He gives the people what they want to hear. But that's not really a journalistic accomplishment.

I want to lift up Amna Nawaz and Geoff Bennett.

by Anonymousreply 27February 4, 2025 8:52 PM

[quote]I'm not seeing the need for Lawrence O'Donnell.

Lawrence O'Donnell was calling out Trump before anyone saw Trump coming. He's been battering and battling at Trump ever since Trump was on "The Apprentice"

by Anonymousreply 28February 4, 2025 9:02 PM

Uplift Boris Sanchez, Phil Mattingly, Dan Abrams, Jeff Zeleny!!

by Anonymousreply 29February 4, 2025 9:05 PM

Dan Abrams? Mmph... that's interesting.

by Anonymousreply 30February 4, 2025 9:08 PM

Kyle Cheney, Tristan Snell, Dworkin, all online journalists who are very very good. Uplift. And I like Rick Wilson and David Pepper. Pepper is brilliant. So is Rachel Bitcoffer. Victoria Brownworth

by Anonymousreply 31February 4, 2025 9:08 PM

Uplift: Ron Filipkowski.

by Anonymousreply 32February 4, 2025 9:09 PM

R30 that’s right DAN ABRAMS! He’s smack dab in the middle just like me! I wish he was on top of me right now!

by Anonymousreply 33February 4, 2025 9:12 PM

Uplift: David Jolly

Destroy: Alan Dershowitz

by Anonymousreply 34February 4, 2025 9:29 PM

Uplift: Kara Swisher.

by Anonymousreply 35February 4, 2025 9:29 PM

Uplift Molly Jong Fast

by Anonymousreply 36February 4, 2025 9:43 PM

Uplift: The Bulwark. Tim Miler, Sarah Longwell and the entire crew are mostly former Repubs who tell it like it is much better than anyone in. traditional media, with the exception of Rachel Maddow. Uplift: Acosta, Stephanie Ruhle (MSNBC's best by far to win the middle back) Destroy: Joy, Chris, and many of the pundits and commentators on CNN and MSNBC who cannot speak in plain English to average folks

by Anonymousreply 37February 4, 2025 9:45 PM

Uplift -

Mother Jones

Rolling Stone

Michael Popok

Marc Elias

Phil Williams

Mary Trump

by Anonymousreply 38February 4, 2025 9:46 PM

[quote]Destroy: Joy

Interesting.

I think I follow your feeling. I almost feel the same way about Roland Martin. Without question he is liberal, progressive, sane, or whatever you want to call it, but his delivery tends to turn me off many times. He is extremely knowledgeable and well-read, but he always seems to be on a mission to prove that (to the point of shoving it down their throats) to whoever he is speaking to. It is much more likely that I would 100% disagree with whoever he is speaking to, but I would like to hear 1-2 of their sentences before they are stomped by Roland. This is why I can't include him as an "uplift"

by Anonymousreply 39February 4, 2025 9:53 PM

Uplift: Aaron Parnas / Meidastouch

(Instagram) He's reporting now live from an anti-Elon protest in front of U.S. Treasury. Elizabeth Warren, Chris Murphy & others in Congress are working on a plan to block Elon from continuing his attempts to disrupt our gov't's business.

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by Anonymousreply 40February 4, 2025 10:13 PM

It came out in court that Katy Tur was the secret mouthpiece for the Trump campaign.

by Anonymousreply 41February 4, 2025 10:15 PM

R25 They are so red pilled, I’m convinced you eat borscht on the daily.

by Anonymousreply 42February 4, 2025 10:17 PM

[quote] I almost feel the same way about Roland Martin. Without question he is liberal, progressive, sane, or whatever you want to call it,

CNN suspends Roland Martin over anti-gay tweets

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by Anonymousreply 43February 4, 2025 10:17 PM

For all Ronan Farrow

by Anonymousreply 44February 4, 2025 10:19 PM

Destroy: Maggie Haberman

by Anonymousreply 45February 4, 2025 10:20 PM

Uplift Ali Velshi

by Anonymousreply 46February 4, 2025 10:20 PM

Uplift: Jessica Denson (please google her if you don't know who she is).

However, beware MeidasTouch. Jessica discusses about 25m in this video...She was with them for over two years and recently departed.

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by Anonymousreply 47February 4, 2025 10:21 PM

R47 here. OP, thinking there should also be a middle ground. Certain news outlets have become questionable. Some examples: Lincoln Project; Meidas, Mueller She Wrote. They make money by aggressively pushing what is now called "Hope-ium".

So how about Uplift, Tear Down, Be Careful?

by Anonymousreply 48February 4, 2025 10:24 PM

I do not condone destroying ANY journalist. Only a total nimrod would suggest such a thing. Since you enjoy sitting and posting, why not put your big opinions to work by trying to support political change via your elected officials and support media that questions elected officials and holds them accountable??

by Anonymousreply 49February 4, 2025 10:30 PM

I’d like to uplift Tristan Snell’s legs over my shoulders.

by Anonymousreply 50February 4, 2025 10:35 PM

Why you call Mika a side chick. Did they start fucking while he was still married? Van Jones rubs me the wrong way nowadays. Too soft.

by Anonymousreply 51February 4, 2025 10:42 PM

O Donnel, Symone, and Michael Steele always keep 100.

by Anonymousreply 52February 4, 2025 10:43 PM

The MeidasTouch bros are grifters. They get away with it because they play our song.

by Anonymousreply 53February 4, 2025 11:02 PM

Uplift: Lawrence O'Donnell. He's the best of MSNBC.

Destroy: Everyone on Fox except for Jessica Tarlov. Destroy Jesse Watters.

by Anonymousreply 54February 4, 2025 11:12 PM

Uplift: Jim Acosta

Destroy: Scott Jennings

by Anonymousreply 55February 4, 2025 11:13 PM

R49 Some of those listed ARE NOT journalists. They're just pretending to be. And other once serious, reliable journalists are now "journalists" folding under pressure to their bosses, and giving misinformation AND disinformation.

Jake Tapper is the perfect example. I once thought he was unflappable.

I so hope I'm not eventually disappointed by Jim Acosta. Unless there's some hidden agenda, he struck the example I wish others would follow.

by Anonymousreply 56February 4, 2025 11:18 PM

Maria Bartiromo and Laura Ingraham should be destroyed.

by Anonymousreply 57February 4, 2025 11:22 PM

Ari Melber is so smart and 🔥

by Anonymousreply 58February 5, 2025 12:52 AM

The Young Turks NEED TO GO.

Especially Cenk Uygur & Ana Kasparian, they have morphed from progressive to MAGA over night. The Joe and Mika of the YouTube.

by Anonymousreply 59February 5, 2025 1:06 AM

Joe Rogan,

How can you leave the one guy who has major influence over Bro Dudes? OP still stuck in the 90's with Network News being a thing completely oblivious douches like Joe Rogan get 6 times the viewers on any given day. Social media is where this fight really matters.

by Anonymousreply 60February 5, 2025 1:09 AM

R22 Or “Look…”

by Anonymousreply 61February 5, 2025 1:14 AM

Uplight:

David Pakman

Mary Trump

Brian Tyler Cohen

The Bulwark Gang

Luke Beasley

Adam Mockler

Jesse Dollemore

John Stewart

Josh Johnson

Chris Hayes

Destroy:

Piers Morgan

Kevin O'Sullivan

Dan Wooten

Tucker Carlson

Jesse Fucking Watters

by Anonymousreply 62February 5, 2025 1:24 AM

Greasefire:

Megyn Kelly

by Anonymousreply 63February 5, 2025 1:25 AM

Many new names here that I will have to check out. Those would be of the uplift listings.

by Anonymousreply 64February 5, 2025 1:26 AM

Also greasefire: Ross Douthat.

by Anonymousreply 65February 5, 2025 1:27 AM

What about me, Ms. Norah O'Donnell??

by Anonymousreply 66February 5, 2025 1:50 AM

[quote]OP: DAVID IGNATIUS

He tops your 'Destroy' list in all caps. What gives him that distinction?

Over the years, he's been a guest on The Rachel Maddow Show of some utility. What's your beef with him?

by Anonymousreply 67February 5, 2025 1:53 AM

^^I was just about to ask the same question! I always thought Ignatius was a trustworthy reliable source.

Has something changed?

by Anonymousreply 68February 5, 2025 1:58 AM

UPLIFT:

Keith Edwards - YouTube (openly gay, handsome commentator)

Kyle Kulinski - Secular Talk (young progressive Dem)

Trae Crowder - (Liberal Redneck)

by Anonymousreply 69February 5, 2025 1:59 AM

Uplift The staff of The Bulwark podcast notably Tim Miller

by Anonymousreply 70February 5, 2025 2:12 AM

Uplift Kyle Kulinski, host of the podcast Secular Talk. Kyle is excellent

by Anonymousreply 71February 5, 2025 2:13 AM

I'd like to destroy Garrett Haake, Morgan Chesky, Phil Mattingly, Chris Cuomo, and Tony Dokoupil. Orally. (For starters.) 🤷🏻‍♂️

by Anonymousreply 72February 5, 2025 2:15 AM

Uplift

-Leigh McGowan

-Jen Taub

- Dean Obeidallah

by Anonymousreply 73February 5, 2025 2:17 AM

Destroy The Los Angeles Times. Owner is a Trumper who edited a critical op-ed about RFK Jr to make it look positive

by Anonymousreply 74February 5, 2025 2:18 AM

[quote] Uplift: Kara Swisher.

Kara Swisher shouldn't be uplifted. She only cares to talk to the popular "cool kids" Democrat crowd like AOC, Jamie Raskin, and Jasmine Crockett. Swisher will never have many lesser known Democratic Congresspeople or Senators on her podcast. She only mingles with the "cool kids".

by Anonymousreply 75February 5, 2025 2:20 AM

Uplift

-Ken Harbaugh

-Texas Paul (Paul Schroder)

-Desi Lydic

by Anonymousreply 76February 5, 2025 2:28 AM

Amy Goodman-support

Jeanine Pirro-shit upon

by Anonymousreply 77February 5, 2025 2:28 AM

Uplift

-Victor Shi

-Barbara McQuade

-Jill Wine-Banks

by Anonymousreply 78February 5, 2025 2:32 AM

I will see your Desi Lydic, and raise you a Jordan Klepper, R76

by Anonymousreply 79February 5, 2025 2:36 AM

R73 Great choices... I want to add Cheri Jacobus, David Rothkopf (my newest discovery, check out his blue Sky Thread).... and (OMG) Sarah Kendzior.

FUCK! Sarah has been right about EVERYTHING!

by Anonymousreply 80February 5, 2025 2:46 AM

^^ I want to add, for the past 4 years, she has been referring to Joe Biden as "The Placeholder President".

It was the one thing I thought she had taken too far, and somewhat (hopefully) disagreed with. Going back and re-reading articles she posted in 2021-3, it's fucking eerie! She knew!!

by Anonymousreply 81February 5, 2025 2:49 AM

I read this when she first posted it. It terrified me and felt she was overstating, overreacting, whatever.

Now I find it oddly comforting, and even more important.

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by Anonymousreply 82February 5, 2025 2:53 AM

Jordan Klepper is another person who needs to be uplifted. I wish we would see more of them instead Jon "Arrogant Asswipe" Stewart.

by Anonymousreply 83February 5, 2025 3:07 AM

I heard a fantastic broadcast of On the Media last weekend with Brooke Gladstone. It was incredibly thoughtful and everyone seemed extremely knowledgeable and intelligent. Her guests were Dahlia Lithwick of Slate and the podcast Amicus, and Ed Zitron, a very bright and OPINIONATED (in the best sense of the word) British journalist who writes and talks about tech and has a podcast called "Better Offline".

So I'd uplift that show and the two guests.

by Anonymousreply 84February 5, 2025 3:52 AM

R78 and Joyce Vance!

by Anonymousreply 85February 5, 2025 4:17 AM

Norah O'Donnell

by Anonymousreply 86February 5, 2025 4:17 AM

R69, I love Keith Edwards

by Anonymousreply 87February 5, 2025 4:19 AM

Kellyanne Conway- UPLIFT

by Anonymousreply 88February 5, 2025 4:20 AM

^^then drop her off a cliff!!

by Anonymousreply 89February 5, 2025 4:24 AM

George Conway needs to be uplifted. He wised up to Trump;s bs unlike his twat ex-wife.

I give George some props for this video and giving a good shot at a rendition of Oh Canada.

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by Anonymousreply 90February 5, 2025 4:35 AM

Wow. This thread made it to 90 posts and not one single mention of destroying Bill Maher? I'm truly shocked.

by Anonymousreply 91February 5, 2025 4:43 AM

Bill Maher is neither a journalist nor a pundit. Just an elderly, misguided coke addict.

by Anonymousreply 92February 5, 2025 4:45 AM

R92 Thank you. IMHO, you just won the thread!

P.S. George Conway is questionable. He's one of those spreading Hopium, while benefitting heartily from The Lincoln Project. Do you know how much it costs to produce those clever ads? About 2% of all the money that's been donated.

How much of that money went into Democrat campaigns in the past two elections?

Vs the amount of money that went into the pockets of TLP founders???

Showtime did a documentary on them. They didn't come out looking so good!

by Anonymousreply 93February 5, 2025 4:50 AM

You all remember Steve Schmidt? I used to be a huge fan!

His personal wealth tripled in the past 8 years. How do you explain that?

by Anonymousreply 94February 5, 2025 4:52 AM

Didn't Schmidt fall out with The Lincoln Project? I can't remember the details. I tried to watch him tonight and just couldn't take it anymore. I'm scared enough already.

by Anonymousreply 95February 5, 2025 4:58 AM

R95 Long story short: He was greedier than the rest of them.

by Anonymousreply 96February 5, 2025 5:00 AM

Schmidt ran the campaign of that guy challenging Biden last year and backed by Bill Ackman.

by Anonymousreply 97February 5, 2025 5:00 AM

Also, there's more to the story, but Steve Schmidt and Rick Wilson DESPISE each other. I don't know the specifics.

by Anonymousreply 98February 5, 2025 5:01 AM

I enjoy listening to Rick Wilson and George Conway. It doesn't cost me anything to follow their social media. I think they are more insightful and certainly wittier than, say, the Meidas brothers.

A bit of hopium and humor is not always bad. Otherwise it's nothing but doom and gloom and you end up feeling hopeless.

by Anonymousreply 99February 5, 2025 5:56 AM

r91: And not one mention of ol' Milky Loads.

by Anonymousreply 100February 5, 2025 6:14 AM

Most of you don’t get it.

DESTROY: Corporate media

UPLIFT: Independent media

You can’t pick and choose by the hour on MSNBC, watching your favourite corporate bobble head. You shouldn’t regularly be supporting any corporate media.

Also, are you really still listening to these anti-Trumpers like Tim Miller? I mean, what I waste of time. You can predict EVERYTHING they’ll ever say - including that they’ll never say, “I caused this. This was fine by me when I was the beneficiary.” Barf.

I don’t listen to anything on the Crooked Media (Pod Save) podcast network except Strict Scrutiny with Leah Litman, Melissa Murray and Kate Shaw. Listen to this to learn everything about SCOTUS and the judiciary. Far better to learn how the system actually works than paying attention to “historian in real time” Rachel Maddow. (Though I have nothing against her, I just feel like she’s lost relevance.)

Listen to MSNBC’s podcast Main Justice with Andrew Weissman and Mary McCord - learn how the JUSTICE department actually works. You develop a far better understanding of what is going on when you know how these major components of our government are meant to work.

Pick and choose the rest. I know I recommended a corporate podcast but that one is worth supporting. But don’t leave MSNBC on all day or tune in to see your favourite personality. You have better things to do. Cancel NYT, cancel WaPo, if you haven’t already. Don’t subscribe to the LA Times. Seek out and support independent sources of news. We have to put our money where our mouth is and right the imbalance that has gone on for so long.

HIGHLY RECOMMEND: MSW Media who produce The Daily Beans podcast and others including the new Unjustified podcast with Andy McNabe. Support their Patreon. I’ve listened to this since early 2018 when it was Mueller, She Wrote and I have always felt very informed as the news was happening - meaning, I’ve already seen things coming in advance, understand the context and significance, and know what to expect. This saves one from being alarmed by an event and also understanding when it actually is a four alarm fire. Plus it’s everything you need to know in one concise place. Alison Gill (AG) who founded and runs the network is amazing. Very LGBT+ friendly- friendly to all, really, except the fascists.

I also listen to Meidas Touch short takes, if necessary. The main guy, Ben, is good. Even if it often sounds like a telethon.

Support independence, do not regularly support corporate media - be very choosy. And mostly: feel free to tune out altogether! You don’t need a fix. You just need to stay somewhat informed. Don’t stress yourseif out. Put your attention some place useful - what can you do to help locally? What’s going on in your state? How well informed are you about history? If you don’t agree with something or you’re bored or already heard/know about it - feel free to TURN IT OFF. Do something else. Untether yourseif from the media, especially corporate media.

Also, a great history podcast to listen to, if you really want to know how this all started in the U.S., back in 1971 with The Powell Memo, is The Master Plan. Educate yourself so you don’t talk nonsense. Don’t be part of the problem, especially on the Democratic side.

Use your time wisely.

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by Anonymousreply 101February 5, 2025 6:56 AM

Uplift everyone on MSNBC except maybe Joe and Mika.

MSNBC is the only major network telling the truth and going after Trump. Yeah, you may not agree with everything, but we need MSNBC especially with the onslaught of lies from Fox.

by Anonymousreply 102February 5, 2025 6:56 AM

[quote]OP: DAVID IGNATIUS

You can do something and cross the line of no return.

His piece: 'I have my concerns': David Ignatius says Biden shouldn't run again

It was clearly a "hit" piece and published at a very, VERY, contentious time. Either he was directly assigned to write the piece by his editors and/or he was "paid off" by some "get Biden out" type of coalition, IMHO. I've never forgiven him for that piece and its timing.

Linked is an interview regarding the piece and he is being challenged about it.

[quote]Sep 13, 2023: The Washington Post's David Ignatius joins Morning Joe to discuss his latest column on why he says President Biden shouldn't run again in 2024.

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by Anonymousreply 103February 5, 2025 9:05 AM

[quote]R103: You can do something and cross the line of no return. His piece: 'I have my concerns': David Ignatius says Biden shouldn't run again

Mmm, I wasn't aware of that one, I guess mainly because I don't watch Joe & Mika if I can possibly avoid it; I detest them. And it was a hard slog, watching that excerpt.

What Ignatius expressed is an opinion, one which I did not share (and still don't, not really). Unpleasantly, it's from September 13, 2023, and that's shockingly early. Giving voice to it, he's probably among those who started that ball rolling. Prior to his contribution, it seems to have been just murmurs.

[quote]It was clearly a "hit" piece and published at a very, VERY, contentious time. Either he was directly assigned to write the piece by his editors and/or he was "paid off" by some "get Biden out" type of coalition, IMHO. I've never forgiven him for that piece and its timing.

I'm not so sure. I think he probably thought at the time - and even now would probably protest - that he was expressing his own opinion, independently of any pressure or urging. But Joe himself alludes to the odd phenomenon of lots of associates musing about Biden's qualifications when cameras were off, and IMO, that's the effect of targeted propaganda being disseminated by social media - on that goddamned small screen they all spend an unhealthy amount of time browsing. When an idea seems to be subtly percolating, coming from every direction at once, that's an indication of a propaganda rollout. It's a steady, insidious pressure. And its point of origin is online troll brigades.

Different groups of voters receive somewhat different targeted messaging, hitting them where they are in terms of their specific concerns. For instance, young people concerned about the Palestinian plight were slowly, steadily fed the notion that Biden/Harris were totally unacceptable because of their support for Israel, that one could not cast votes for them in good conscience. Millions of voters stayed home because of that, or made no choice at the top of the ticket. This benefited Trump.

"Concerns about Biden's abilities" (shades of Susan Collins) seem to have been another rollout, causing Dems to hesitate, to falter. And later, when that June 27 debate was held, there was a sudden surge of perception shaping, where many thousands of social media posts reinforced an imposed narrative that Biden was too enfeebled to continue. It almost didn't take - there had to follow weeks of steady pressure, placing that perception on endless repeat, sprinkled with ridicule and invective. One by one, different respected Dems - Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, and others - fell prey to the social media-borne pressure and added their voices to it. I cannot remember when I've been that disappointed.

Maybe that's the reason I'm not so quick to write David Ignatius off, not yet. I think he and lots of others made a mistake, a really bad one, and didn't recognize social media psy-ops when they encountered them. I'm endeavoring not to respond to their failures emotionally. Once the Dems have recovered and righted themselves, then we'll see what positions they take.

by Anonymousreply 104February 5, 2025 10:58 AM

[quote] Unpleasantly, it's from September 13, 2023, and that's shockingly early. Giving voice to it, he's probably among those who started that ball rolling. Prior to his contribution, it seems to have been just murmurs.

Not really early, Dragon. One must remember the time and environment. President Biden was facing the age issue nearly from the moments he assumed office. The Republican machinery began hammering at that issue right away. What didn't help is that there were many Democrats (and others) who shared that view which meant that Republicans had found their perfect issue to exploit and magnify. While President Biden successfully passed compelling bipartisan legislation (which was "mentioned") those accomplishments never received the amount of coverage that his age and competency did.

Then there was the daily polling (another easily rigged and racket, IMHO) which never seemed to favor President Biden and only pushed the narratives of his age and competency forward. I disagree with you that by the time of this Ignacious' piece that the environment was just murmurs. I might concede to very loud rumblings.

Of course, I don't know 100% that it was a "hit" piece, but... from my professional experiences in dealing with numerous journalists, lawyers, and publications, regarding public companies, public relations, and investor relations, I'm pretty good in spotting a "planted" item (whether paid for and/or to promote an agenda) when I see one. In considering the environment, the timing, and what was written in the piece, it was clear to me that it was not as objective and on the "up and up" piece as much as the originator(s) wanted an audience to think that it was. In his defense, Ignatious was so shaken by the intense and heavy blowback that he received, so much so, that he felt a need to return to the MJ program 2-3 times and drop a pleading or two (not about the piece) about his credibility.

So much money is poured into all of this, and it is not about the campaigns or goals/objectives, but it's about controlling the narrative(s).

by Anonymousreply 105February 5, 2025 3:23 PM

R51, they claim they didn’t get together until they separated from their spouses but my insider says that’s total bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 106February 5, 2025 3:29 PM

Jennifer Rubin left the Washington Post and has been sharply critical of the way corporate media covered politics in the past few years. She has started an online website called the Contrarians.

by Anonymousreply 107February 5, 2025 4:50 PM

"So... What Politics News"...

Oh, dear.

by Anonymousreply 108February 5, 2025 5:23 PM

LOL!!!

I LOVE TABITHA! And. she is sho' nuff' speaking!

LOL!

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by Anonymousreply 109February 5, 2025 6:43 PM

The New Statesman, and anyone writing with depth and insight on economics, climate, and geopolitics, including the Substacks of Quinn Slobodian, Bruno Maçães ("World Game"), Brett Christophers, Lee Siegel, Yanis Varoufakis, Isabella Weber, Benjamin Moser. For those of you who understand French: the independent channel Médiapart, for example this interview with former French prime minister Dominique de Villepin:

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by Anonymousreply 110February 5, 2025 9:32 PM

David Korn and Mother Jones magazine are to be uplifted.

Also, Uplift The New Republic

Steven Schmidt is a boorish opportunist. And Van Jones is not boorish, but sly, also an opportunist. He worked for Obama for about 18 months and got fired. Schmidt and Nicole Wallace worked together on the McCain campaign, and he was truly pissed off and angry when she got a nice gig and he didn't.

by Anonymousreply 111February 5, 2025 9:38 PM

Roland Martin has gotten better, but he's nothing worth uplifting...or dumping. He's not worth it.

by Anonymousreply 112February 5, 2025 9:40 PM

I'd like to add to your post R110, if I may...

[quote]Mediapart's income is only derived from paid subscribers. Unlike most French newspapers, Mediapart refuses to display any advertising. It also refuses all commercial partnerships. Its official slogan is "Only Our Readers Can Buy Us". The New York Times has called Mediapart "France's leading investigative news site".

by Anonymousreply 113February 5, 2025 9:41 PM

Vox is good Uplift

by Anonymousreply 114February 5, 2025 9:48 PM

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by Anonymousreply 115February 5, 2025 10:15 PM

OP

Pssst. "Which political news journalists" is correct, dear.

by Anonymousreply 116February 5, 2025 11:47 PM

Tear down Joe & Mike Scarborough, Chris Cuomo, The Young Turks, and Charlamagne The God . They have proven over and over again to be charlatans.

by Anonymousreply 117February 5, 2025 11:51 PM

Thanks, R116. I know that.

But honestly, at the time I was concerned about the character count (of which I don't know anyway) and the length of the title. My goal is to always have a title read as one line and have that title fully shown in a person's "watch" thread. I was unsuccessful and failed. I didn't know my failure until it was published, and I saw the result.

BUT THANK YOU!

by Anonymousreply 118February 6, 2025 12:02 AM

Killer Mike is a phony and a manipulator. Dump his ass.

by Anonymousreply 119February 6, 2025 12:09 AM

Uplift Leeja Miller LegalEagle (Devin Stone) Adam Conover Some More News crew

Kill Tim Pool

by Anonymousreply 120February 6, 2025 1:39 AM

I have seen John Dickinson from CBS, on the Stephen Colbert show and he is a really good guy.

by Anonymousreply 121February 6, 2025 3:24 AM

JOY BEHAR!

by Anonymousreply 122February 6, 2025 3:25 AM

Is Meghan Mc Cain a pundit? Because she should be dumped.

FYI: I bounce back and forth between X and Blue Sky and since I have been so busy ripping Donald a new asshole lately tonight I could not access X. I was told they were having "technical difficulties..."

by Anonymousreply 123February 6, 2025 3:53 AM

Kill all the Russian asset "journalists" like Dave Rubin, Tim Pool, and Fucker Carlson

by Anonymousreply 124February 6, 2025 3:59 AM

Uplift Kyle Griffin

by Anonymousreply 125February 6, 2025 4:00 AM

WHAT ABOUT ME?

by Anonymousreply 126February 6, 2025 4:05 AM

R126. The Greeks should drown you in the Aegean.

by Anonymousreply 127February 6, 2025 4:32 AM

I mentioned before, but here is a link to David Rothkopf's Blue Sky. He's been a great resource.

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by Anonymousreply 128February 6, 2025 5:56 AM

[quote]Is Meghan Mc Cain a pundit? Because she should be dumped.

She has been dumped, and many times too. Even by her own father who fired her. The girl can't keep a job. I believe that "The View" was the longest job (3 years, I believe) that she's ever had. She fights to remain relevant and now has gone back to attacking "The View" in order to get her name back in the press.

by Anonymousreply 129February 6, 2025 9:37 AM

I rediscovered Keith Olbermann. The only news breakdown I can stomach these days. He delivers the important stories with just the right amount of snark.

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by Anonymousreply 130February 6, 2025 5:21 PM

R127 I have two big floatation devices!

by Anonymousreply 131February 6, 2025 6:31 PM

It's her facial expressions and attitude that gets me

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by Anonymousreply 132February 6, 2025 10:21 PM

Adam Serwer is a great source.

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by Anonymousreply 133February 7, 2025 7:34 PM

Uplift-Danielle Moodie

by Anonymousreply 134February 24, 2025 4:05 PM

Pro Publica is excellent. New Republic. The Nation, Mother Jones, David Korn, Sometimes Slate, The Daily Beast, and Salon are ok. But The New Yorker and The Atlantic are must reads. Joyce Vance and Aaron Rupar and Heather Cox Richardson have substacks, and so does Jennifer Rubin.

by Anonymousreply 135February 24, 2025 8:22 PM

Destroy: Bill Maher

by Anonymousreply 136March 24, 2025 5:38 AM

Destroy-Jake Tapper and Dana Bash

by Anonymousreply 137September 23, 2025 2:07 AM

Tear down Ben Shapiro until he's force to take Milo as a roommate.

Get rid of Scarborough.

Force Maddow and Olby to do a show together - see how long they can stand each other.

by Anonymousreply 138September 23, 2025 2:16 AM

Uplift the entire staff of WJM in Minneapolis.

by Anonymousreply 139September 23, 2025 2:21 AM

Why is Charlemagne the God and Van Jones on your tear down list. Dumb cunt.

by Anonymousreply 140September 23, 2025 2:29 AM

Uplift Heather Cox Richardson

Jennifer Rubin at The Contrarian

Joyce Vance

The Guardian NEwspaper

Abby Phillips and Laura Coates at CNN

Brianna Taylor at CNN

Joe, Mika and Mike Barnacle

by Anonymousreply 141September 23, 2025 2:31 AM

Michael Steele has been kicking ass and giving us great advice for a while now.

by Anonymousreply 142September 23, 2025 2:41 AM

R129 You should see her fight the dessert bar at Ryan’s.

by Anonymousreply 143September 23, 2025 3:41 AM

Op why you make this thread back in February? Were you coming down from something?

by Anonymousreply 144September 23, 2025 4:46 AM

I often want to hear what Ben Meiseles and Brian Tyler Cohen are reporting, but both have such shrill shrieking voices, I can't. I'm probably on the spectrum a little, but Cohen's enraged Munchkin voice and Meiselas mangling and mispronouncing so many words raises my blood pressure.

Both get very excited and talk loudly in the top of their vocal range and it wears me out. Neither can pronounce "str" without adding "ch" so district is "dischtrict" and that makes me crazy. The middle Meiselas brother says "impor-DANT" and "buddins" (for buttons), grrrrrrrr.

by Anonymousreply 145September 23, 2025 1:31 PM

Uplift- YouTuber Ben Dixon

by Anonymousreply 146September 23, 2025 2:45 PM

We should uplift every single reporter who is belittled and demeaned by that racist, sexist, irresponsible, imbecilic autocrat in the White House.

by Anonymousreply 147September 23, 2025 3:23 PM

Re: Lawrence O'Donnell

When Obama was elected, this self-important jerk strongly, dramatically asserted: "There will be [bold]NO[/bold] health care reform happening soon! [italic]MY sources[/italic] have told me [bold]this will not happen[/bold]!"

He's another has-been struggling to be relevant.

by Anonymousreply 148September 23, 2025 3:34 PM

Lawrece O'Donnell has his flaws, but he's a lesser evil compared to twats like Dana Bash and Van Jones.

by Anonymousreply 149September 23, 2025 3:46 PM

Jennifer Welch of the I've Had It podcast

by Anonymousreply 150October 16, 2025 9:54 PM

Those are all pundits and I don’t watch cable news. I haven’t in 10 years. Turn that crap off.

by Anonymousreply 151October 16, 2025 10:07 PM

We should lift up Gio!

by Anonymousreply 152October 16, 2025 10:37 PM
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