Dateline Port Charles: Paging Dr. Monica Quartermaine

Previous thread here (please use it until it's full, then come to this one).

"Alan gave the house to Monica."

Fucking grown men who watch soaps. Who are you people?

Old corpses

So unkind, r3.

Put a little love in your heart.

Old trannies?

Anyway......

I remember when Monica was kind of a frau (at least in appearance) and yet Rick and Alan both had the hots for her.

I’m so old that I remember when Rick and z Monica were having their hot affair in some shack on the pier . They did a location piece with super handsome Stuart Damon stalked them with a gun. I don’t remember - it couldn’t have been an earthquake - didn’t some accident stop him from shooting them?

R9, I had a friend in high school who watched GH at that time... I remember when Alan was going to murder Rick and Monica by having the ceiling of the nursery in Quatermaine mansion collapse on them. I think he was doing that because Alan suspected that the baby his wife Monica has was really Rick's child.

It's all very fuzzy, it was in the 1900s.

Alan and Monica hated each other so much sometimes. They were not quite ever each other's true love. One was always fucking around on the other.

Ryan Carnes was smoldering; Van Hansis is flaming.

R10, I think the roof ended up collapsing on Alan. One of the characters recently mentioned it.

[quote] Van Hansis is flaming.

And pasty

Nelle mention today.

I suspect Chloe has already run into Frank in the parking lot while dropping off Josh and/or they had a nice catch up chat at the GH Christmas party.

Alexis Havins hubby as New Nikolas?

Justin B is a little too Midwestern farmboy to be a believable Nikolas.

Justin Bruening as Tad Martin Grey's long lost son from one of his many marriages.

Alexa, MEK and Jane.

I didn't realize MEK was so much taller than Jane and Alexa.

I agree with r17. Jethro Jamie would not be right for playing European aristocrat Nikolas. That would be even worse than surfer dude Marcus Coloma as Nikolas.

How was Justin Bruening able to achieve more primetime success when his wife and Jacob Young were much better actors?

I guess Van sucking Frank’s dick got him a job. Van Hansis is a terrible recast. Where is Ryan???

Van's version of Lucas isn't going to get anyone invested in any story lines he's involved in or create any kind of buzz. He can't lead story lines and he's not very doctor-y. For example, Sawandi Wilson (Isaiah) is doctor-y.

If Frank was hellbent on hiring Van, why didn't he make him Lucas' boyfriend or husband he comes back to town with and makes Brad jealous and vindictive in response.

I can't imagine that Ryan Carnes wasn't open to recurring. He did his duty and came back for Jackie's tribute episode. As someone mentioned in a previous thread, Ryan could say more with one look as he did when he turned around to look at BJ after she said "champ" to him. Why is Frank so stunad?

The only thing worse than Frank hiring Van......is that Frank will dig in and not admit his mistake, and try to make viewers accept Van as Lucas, just as he's done with Cam Mathison as Drew.

R9. Yeah, there was a gas leak on the pier as Prince Charming climbed the stairs to kill Rick and Monica...

#FireVan. But as long as he opens hole, he’s got a job.

[quote] How was Justin Bruening able to achieve more primetime success when his wife and Jacob Young were much better actors?

Assuming this is a fair and accurate assessment, in the case of Jacob Young it was overexposure on daytime.

I wonder if they'll have Monica die on screen sooner, or later?

I have nothing to base this on but his salty exit interview from B&B but did Jacob have a bit of an attitude? Difficult to work with? Did he get along with his fellow GH co-stars (Coltin aside)?

Jacob Young starred on three different soaps over the course of 15+ years, where his character was front burner almost the entire time. In his personal life during those same 15+ years, he came out of the closet, got heavily involved with a male co-star and then went back in the closet and got married to a woman (likely after being warned about being too out).

When he returned to B&B, Brad Bell then had his character fall in love with a transgender woman. After the initial storyline wore itself out, there wasn't much you could do with the characters. So Brad wrote them off

And since then Jacob has been lying low. Not making much of a blip on the radar.

And said co star married a woman and then bilked someone out of money (I forget the story)

Stephen Colton Scott Martines has reported bilked multiple people out of large sums of money. Has apparently become a professional con man in the past decade or so.

But has he ever married?

Con man

Thanks R33. I could not remember the details.

More tales of the con man

Yet more tales of the con man

If I remember correctly, Monica went into labor someplace deserted (no idea where) with no power and Leslie Webber had to deliver the baby.

Then during labor, Monica gasps (to Leslie, who happens to be Rick's wife) "it's Rick's baby!" but as it happened, it wasn't. I didn't see the episode but I heard Leslie Charleson say in some interview later "that damned birthmark!" which was a Quartermaine birthmark, so it was Alan's baby all along.

(Why I remember this I have no idea. I can't even remember if I got the cat food Amazon claims it delivered on Wednesday.)

This hairstyle with the clips… is it for real?

R23, you made my day with the word stunad!

I seriously doubt Justin Bruening is going back to soaps.

R38 it was clear her little sisters had been working on joss’ hair.

Eden’s such a mess!

While I love Lulu and Tracy scenes... Lulu has had more scenes with Tracy than Laura

They love to remind us that Tracy raised Lulu and that Luke was the love of Tracy's life. Blech.

R41, thank you! I clearly missed that.

Beautifully titled, OP

R16 If Justin were available, do you think you could see him as Dillon?

R21 Jacob Young never really tested the waters outside of soaps, except for his pre-B&B days, when he was still a teen. He began his career at B&B when he was 18, landed on GH at 20, then went straight from GH to AMC at 24, staying there until the shows ending when he was 32, then headed back to B&B at 32 until they wrote him off when he was 38/39. He's now seeking opportunities outside of soaps, though he's also now 45. Justin Bruening actually could've been even bigger, for he was up for Superman against Brandon Routh.

Jacob is also one of those guys who likely landed on the casting couch somewhere along the way to get a role, but then became all fundie.

Justin Bruening as Dillon sounds good.

R22 😁 well remember Van referenced trying to get a job at GH for the longest before Frank finally gave him Lucas. Ryan is busy with other projects, including touring at times.

Dillon coming back would be a good thing. If LW gets her rabies shots first.....

R23 Referring to Frank as "stunad" was the icing on the cake to your post 😊

R24 Absolutely true 😂

R27 Kim Zimmer referenced the same thing regarding to her career in soaps, when she tried venturing towards other avenues. She said that she "stayed too long at the fair." However, someone here mentioned before that she was up for a prime-time show on CBS, except the network wasn't interested; believe it was Evening Shade?

R28 Pretty soon

LW found herself a younger man to make her ex-husband jealous, so a NuDillon should be safe from her pursuits.

R29 He was somewhat arrogant when he first started out on B&B and on GH; to his credit, Tony Geary wasn't exactly welcoming to him, for he was still upset that Lucky was recast; Tony felt that Lucky was only for Jonathan, so if he wasn't willing to come back, then Lucky should've stayed deceased. Tony also believed Jacob wasn't a good enough actor.

R30 I know you're referencing Jacob & Coltin, but did Jacob come out publicly? I remember it was more bts

R31 Unfortunately

R32 He's apparently turned his life around and is now a devoted dad

R33 R35 R36 Proof that matter what, the Internet never forgets 😁

R43 Frank loves Jane, though Genie....not so much. He dictates storylines/guarantees although Van Etten and the other writers are doing a pretty decent job working around both him and Korte, for that matter.

*Van Etten is doing a pretty decent job working around Frank and Korte's biases, should say at R63

R49 Oh wow 😊

R52 LMAO

R57 Very astute 😁😁

If anyone here is in the Los Angeles area, Mo, LW, Cam, Donnell, Tanisha and Finola are taping an episode of "The Jennifer Hudson Show" this upcoming week; tickets should still be available.

What is Frankie V.'s beef with Genie? Her dislike for the Laura as Heather's cheerleader story line? If so, I'm with Genie on that one. Awful, awful story line. Laura should have been advocating to get her son Nik released from prison or a reduced sentence, not Heather.

Or is it more than the disagreement on that story line?

I know Genie is beloved here and I do have nostalgic feelings regarding her character but in general, I don't get a warm and fuzzy feeling from GF. JMO.

I don't watch Jennifer Hudson Show but I do see the clips on SM of the guests dancing down a hallway lined with staff also dancing as they make their way on stage.

I think Finola the professional dancer will nail it. I hope Mo trips.

Previews For Next Week:

Monday, January 27th, 2025

Lucky and Elizabeth take a risk.

Anna sees Jason in a new light.

Laura confides in Lulu.

Kristina is suspicious.

Nina and Curtis form a plan.

_____________________________

Tuesday, January 28th, 2025

Alexis is left reeling.

Trina encourages Kai.

Carly receives a warning.

Anna confronts Emma.

Chase has news for Brook Lynn.

_______________________________

Wednesday, January 29th, 2025

Dante is horrified.

Tracy and Martin have a run-in.

Cody is blindsided.

Brook Lynn ponders her next move.

Sasha opens up to Jason.

_______________________________

Thursday, January 30th, 2025

Carly and Brennan get closer.

Lulu confides in Maxie.

Molly and Kristina are stunned.

Dante briefs Chase.

Cody jumps to conclusions.

______________________________

Friday, January 31st, 2025

Ric and Ava make a plea.

Dante confronts Anna.

Brook Lynn seeks out Cody.

Laura gives Lulu food for thought.

Brad makes an outrageous request.

R69 Frank's beef with Genie is mainly the same one he has with Nancy Lee; he doesn't like "outspoken" actresses who usurp his authority. Finola tried to as well and was yelled at then subsequently suspended by Frank years ago, though she has apparently since became more "willing" to accept the writing, no matter how out of character it sometimes seems. Yes, the Heather Webber storyline wasn't exactly what Genie wanted and she made no secret about that, so Frank "allegedly" scaled back her involvement in Lulu's return story, out of spite. You're also right about Genie not exactly being "warm and fuzzy" at times; Patrick Mulcahey didn't particularly care for her either, though as you also referenced, there are many cast members who admire and adore her, that are very close to her.

R37, Monica gave birth in the Quartermaine house, well, her house.

Lesley and Gail went to visit a bedridden. Monica. A blizzard hit. Monica went into labor and blurted out what she believed to be the truth when Gail and Stella the maid were boiling hot water and getting fresh towels.

Later, at the hospital, Lesley is exhausted. Edward is thanking her profusely. Tracy is staring at Lesley, suspecting it's not just exhaustion that has her looking do spent.

Brilliant stuff.

^

*So spent

Insight into Patrick's beef with Genie:

R70 😁😁

Sorry to hear about Finola getting yelled at and suspended. I love her, she's an excellent actress.

Finola, Jane, Maura, Cynthia and Rick Hearst are the only reasons I watch at this point.

[quote]Frank loves Jane, though Genie....not so much

None of the EPs liked Genie except Gloria, and that was probably because Gloria kept her too coked up for her to be a problem. But it's no big secret that Genie has spent almost her entire career on GH complaining. I can understand why she and Wendy Riche had issues, Wendy did call her fat. Genie's main problem is that she thought she never got the same respect that Tony got and has taken it out on the show ever since. Welcome to show biz, Genie.

R55 Yes and yes. She was 30+ when she left GL and Linda Bloodworth-Thomason wanted her for Evening Shade, but CBS wanted a bigger name, and thus we got Marilu Henner.

R75 I've mentioned that book (I have it) and that essay here and several posters insisted I had to be making it all up 😆 Glad to see that it was mentioned elsewhere in the soap press.

I also remember reading that the cast member who invited the author of that book (Martha P. Nochimson) to the set to observe that day was.....Nancy Lee Grahn.

GF has a bit of Eve Plumb Syndrome, in my opinion.

Bitter about the way she was treated and being second fiddle yet keeps returning for the paycheck.

Mainstream press shines a light on Jane Elliot

R77 Finola deserves more than what she's given, but she's a trooper. She had issues with the way Anna and Duke were written, during Ian's return; Anna was supposed to sleep with Julian after Duke's death, which Finola thought was against Anna and Duke.

All the actors you mentioned are fan favorites, btw

R78 Right 😊 Genie and Wendy definitely clashed; in Genie's defense, Wendy, who has a Joy Behar effect to her in the sense that they're ageless, had issues with others as well, including Sarah Brown and Bob Guza. Jill, of course, was team Tony over Genie, for she had problems with women over 40, unless they were one of her favorites.

R79 Thank you for clarifying 😊 I know she did an episode of Seinfeld and a TV movie or so, something called The Disappearance of Vonnie, iirc. She said that besides Santa Barbara, she had trouble finding work in LA.

R80 Yes without receipts sometimes it's difficult for people to believe certain stories 😊

Nancy Lee, like her or not, has never changed 😁

R81 Interesting assessment 😂

R82 Well deserved 👏 👏 👏 👏 when Jane initially retired, one of LW's first announcements was that Jane's dressing room was now hers, because it was bigger and LW felt that she was entitled to it, since she saw herself as "the lead female," making everything all about her, as usual.

One thing I like about Jane is that she gets it. Always has. I also like that she and Dee Hall are besties because, on paper, it seems so unlikely.

R85, Ellen Weston, future GL head writer, wrote Disappearance of Vonnie.

Zimmer told Weston she was in the movie; Ellen said Oh. Who'd you play?

Zimmer: "Vonnie."

R89 Their friendship does seem unlikely, on paper 😊 😊 though Deidre apparently is known for friendlier moments, personally, outside of the business/professional side to her. Brian Frons wanted either Deidre or Genie to headline AMC when they relocated to LA, since Susan wasn't exactly onboard with the move.

R90 That's hilarious 😆

Recap of Finn Carr (Rocco) on Mo's show:

Mo opened with how he loves young actors, he helps young actors so much, he has ten Emmys, three of his own and seven he shares with all the young actors he's helped but he doesn't want to brag.

He hasn't helped any young actors lately because he hasn't found any he likes (take that NAC!) but he has found one he likes in Finn. He says he is also helping Sawandi (WTF??) who he likes. Thirty-eight-year old, talented and experienced Sawandi doesn't need Mo's sputtering help. Kudos to Sawandi for showing restraint and not telling Mo to kick rocks.

He introduced sixteen year old Finn by saying he plays Dante's son, "Dante the only actor shorter than I am on GH". I'm sure DZ appreciated that. Finn tells Mo he has a "gorgeous" voice.

Finn's first job as a 4 year old was on Hot In Cleveland. They discussed the pros and cons of self tapes to audition.

During COVID, Finn said he had "seasonal depression" for four or five months. He didn't like the idea of Zoom therapy, would have preferred in person therapy. Swimming in cold water helped Finn with his depression. He also suffers from anxiety and panic attacks, had to come home from school because of panic attacks when he was younger. Finn said he would tell people he was "just tired" when he was depressed, he asked Mo if he ever said he was "tired" to cover up, Mo went off on a tangent about his nervous breakdowns and mental institution stay. Finn said he is hesitant to discuss his depression and ask for help but is more open about discussing and asking for help for anxiety. He has never taken medication.

Mo asked Finn who Rocco's mom is on GH. He seriously didn't know. Then after Finn said "Lulu" he asked if Kelly Monaco was his mom. WTF, he just answered the question. Finn clarified Kelly was stepmom figure. Mo says he doesn't want to work "hard" any more, he wants to work "easy". It's obvious Mo, very obvious!

Mo explained to Finn about the Actor's Studio and Method Acting. Mo got into the Actor's Studio the first time he auditioned. Mo said he will teach Finn method acting some day. Finn says he's more a Meisner type actor as he's young and doesn't have a lot of life experience to draw on.

Mo wrapped up with commending Finn for getting through five months of depression and how his sharing his experience might help other young people watching.

Thank you R93 for taking that bullet. Mo needs to exit stage right. There’s nothing left for him.

I've mentioned it before, but I think "Shane," played by Connie Ray in Never Say Never: The Deidre Hall Story, is supposed to be Jane Elliot.

Oops, just realized it's "Actors Studio" not "Actor's".

I wonder if someone wisely advised Finn to say "seasonal" depression so as not to cast a stigma upon himself.

R93 Great synopsis. Between the claim of ten Emmy's when he really has ownership of three, along with not remembering their originally firstborn onscreen grandson's mother, not sure which is a higher level of concern.

*Original firstborn onscreen grandson should say at R98

How has he helped the "young ones"? What have any of those he's mentored done?

I haven't watched GH since the early 90s. But, I do remember her character well. It is kind of sad to read that LC died. As a teenager I'd skip the last few classes of the day if I thought there was a real cliffhanger. So many memories around that time. Soaps were a big deal to me and my friends.

I'm guessing delusional Mo is taking credit for and believes he "shares" in Chad, Steve, SJB and Bryan Craig's Emmys. Does Vanessa Marcil have an Emmy? He probably credits himself with Drew Garrett's (Michael) nomination.

He really is deeply unwell

Stunad! 😄

R102 Yes, Vanessa has a Best Supporting Actress Emmy for her 2002 return.

R102 Ironically, Vanessa was up against both Robin Christopher and Kelly Monaco (then still on Port Charles). Other nominees were Rebecca Budig, Linda Dano for OLTL and Cady McClain for ATWT

Would love to see females being forced to team up - a Laura / Tracy, Anna/ Felicia, Carly / Liz

WTF why am I not permitted to follow this fucking thread

I'm rather disturbed that ABC allows Sonny to kill a federal agent in cold blood and there be no accountability. Does ABC really intend to signal that they condone vigilante "justice" because they perceive the fictional character of Sonny to be a source of General Hospital's profit-making? That's a very sad statement, if true. Most of his criminal empire is unseen, but surely it's not without victims (otherwise, it woudn't be criminal).

Sonny could shoot somebody on *5th Avenue and wouldn't lose any of ABC's executives.

*(or in GH's case, he could shoot someone in front of diners in Bobbie's).

R106. That was Linda Dano's Emmy. Her scenes admitting that her Dr. Rae was a fraud were masterful.

Do we think Asher is crying his pretty little eyes out now that King Mo has proclaimed Finn to be the only minor worthy of his skillful tutoring? How long before Joshua Benard takes over the role of Danny Morgan?

R109, looks like Connie/Marlena agrees with you.

Why are people expecting warm and fuzzy story lines from Frank? He killed a baby on Christmas Eve (Sasha's baby).

Who does he think he is? Julian Fellowes? Julian who killed off Downton Abbey's Matthew Crawley on Christmas much to the horror of Brits.

I just don't understand how anyone can take Maurice's "mentoring" seriously. If I were a young actor, I would look at Maurice's career as everything that I don't want. Soap work beats waiting tables and is not a bad place to get your career started, but no young actor wants to get trapped in soaps.

r108 we see you, Brian Frons!

Frank Valentini has taken all that was wrong with OLTL and transplanted it to GH. In it's last year, OLTL was based on endless scenes of conflict, logical, illogical, anticipated, unanticipated...the characters were moved around like chess pieces just to create endless scenes of conflict. GH is now doing the same thing, with an added dose of violence (the shootings, the IV killings, the fires). Everything is focused on immediate events, whereas real good soaps are based on built-up tensions, character-driven stories, and unexpected surprises. Must everyone's parenthood be a surprise (Cody, Sasha, Giolin...)? I guess it keeps Brad busy in the lab testing all that DNA! Don't get me wrong -- I loved OLTL, but I didn't like what it deteriorated into in its last years and now the same has happened at GH.

Gio is at Sundance promoting a movie in competition and NAC is at Paris Fashion Week rubbing elbows with Anna Wintour. Mo is, as always, just jealous, and Finn, who is talented, should avoid his “mentorship” at all costs.

Didn't Frons and Pratt mandate the switch to story driven rather than character driven? That was indeed the beginning of the end.

With the exceptions of Erica Kane and Vicki Buchanan, characters became unrecognizable and inconsistent. There was no longer a need for a "bible" outlining the characters personalities and long term story lines. It was anything goes and instant gratification.

R104 Seeing that word here will probably never get old 🤣🤣

R111 She's an incredible actress.

R113 Marlena De La Croix is never one to hold back 😁

R116 😁

R118 😆

R119. I did not like those changes ATTALL!

The year Georgie was killed along with a few other characters was an equally dark, ugly time.

R119 That's true about Frons and Pratt; at AMC, the actors were not exactly thrilled with the changes. When Pratt decided to have Lucci do double duty as Erica and Jane Campbell, many fans were dissatisfied with that particular storyline. Lucci was also critiqued, for many cited her apparent inability to successfully portray two different characters.

The rumor about Evan Hofer returning is gaining traction again.

As Dex's twin Rex?

[quote]When Pratt decided to have Lucci do double duty as Erica and Jane Campbell, many fans were dissatisfied with that particular storyline

That wasn't Chuck Pratt. That was the final year of AMC on ABC when David Kreizman and Donna Swajeski were HWs.

That poor Marlena DeLacroix. Have you seen that bitch? Homely as hell.! Yikes. An ugly duckling as nana would say.

R129 Possibly, or as an alive Dex?

R133 Thanks. After Lorraine Broderick, right; infamous "putting out to pasture" soap duo Kreizman and Swajeski. I know Pratt personally spoke with each actor and told them forget about their characters history, for he was starting from scratch, which was surprising to some of them, apparently. Pratt gave Jack an evil doppelganger named Marco on Y&R.

*That was meant for R130 at R133

Neither Dex nor his twin Rex are needed.

Since uncredited Executive Producer and Writer Steve Burton refused a paternity story line with Dex, what is there to do with Dex/Rex? Make him Brennan's son? Also unnecessary.

R136 Evan back as Brennan's son sounds like something Frank would conjure up 😁😁

*Meant for R135 at R136

the kid who plays Dex is pretty; he's best suited for Bold and the Beautiful as Ryder, Finn's brother; previously played by another actor on Y&R

R138 Bill Bell referenced Sheila's history at Y&R as irrelevant to her history at B&B, almost like it never happened, which is asinine. Good casting idea, though; he could even be the son that Taylor gave birth to, Brooke and Jack's biological son that they never acknowledge.

*Brad Bell, should say at R139 😁😁

When is Genie ever happy? She always has something to bitch about. Retire already.

*Brooke and Nick's son, at R139 long day 😊

R141 😁

Dex could easily be another of Alan’s many offsrping.

So let him move into the Q mansion with everybody else

Now that CZP is free, do you think that Frank would try to cast her as Monica? I really wouldn't put anything past him.

R144 Or even AJ's for that matter

R145 😆 I was thinking Frank might try to cast her, but as a recast of Elizabeth's mother or someone else.

The casting of Liz's parents was another ball Frank dropped. Frank the ball dropper.

Frank may have issues with Genie and her outspokenness, but he has hired her back on multiple occasions, beginning in 2013. Each time he brought Genie back, he brought her back with the purpose of keeping her around ; the only exception being when Genie came back for a short gig for Tony Geary's farewell storyline. Frank recognizes Genie's importance to the show, to its history and that she is a fan favorite.

Contrast that with JFP and Guza who only had Genie back twice for short stints after getting rid of her in 2002.

If it wasn't for Genie's complaining, neither Lucky nor Lulu would be back on canvas. Instead, we'd probably have Heather living with Laura and Kevin so she could be close to her grandson Ace.

[R145] lose the P. Just plain Zenk now.

r133 Actually, Lorainne Broderick came in to write the final three months of AMC on ABC, July-September 2011. She took over as HW from David Kreizman and Donna Swajeski, who had written the previous year,

You're right about Kreizman and Swajeski helping put soaps out to pasture. They helped write GL into the ground, then moved over to ATWT for its final year, then moved to AMC for its final year.

I give Genie a pass. As a teen, they asked her to play a rape storyline that wasn't really rape? WTF? That would mess with anyone's head.

There were reports of drug use and Tony got all the glory.

When Luke made his December 1978 debut, GH was already a solid No. 2 in the ratings.

That was a direct result of Douglas Marland's stories -- the Lesley/Rick/Monica/Alan quadrangle, the Lassa fever epidemic, new characters Tracy Quartermaine, Bobbie Spencer; he also kept vets relevant. Jessie was Bobbie's roommate. Steve was Dr. Jeff Webber's father.

Lesley taking the wrap for Laura killing David Hamilton drew in the young audience. Most kids are lucky to get 'don't slam the screen door!' Lesley went to JAIL to protect Laura.

Don't forget Daniel Cosgrove's contribution!

[quote]I give Genie a pass.

I would give her a pass too, if she didn't complain about every show she's ever been on.. Yes, Tony got all the glory and the money and all the vacation time. Yeah, Wendy Riche said you were fat. Yeah Days only wanted you for your name and the Marlena fans weren't nice to you. Yeah, you felt disrespected on AMC. Yeah, Bare Essence didn't turn out how you wanted it to. Yes, Y&R was a mess. Geez, lady. Just be lucky you've been working so long - you've got a nice nice pension coming your way.

JENNIFER SMITH IS FAT!

I love Genie and she's a great actress. I just think she's bitter because she was always on the cusp of making it big but always had to rebound back to the soaps. 🫧🫧🫧🧼

Genie's best work as an actress was surprisingly when she first started on General Hospital. The David Hamilton story was off the charts and helped save General Hospital. That story line would NEVER get made today. It was off the charts. Not just the acting but the writing. I would love to see it again but none of it has ever been posted on YouTube.

[quote] Don't forget Daniel Cosgrove's contribution!

I'm surprised DAYS survived him. He was having a run of bad luck for a while.

R75 are you vee? In the biz?

R109 you may have missed the memo: ok to assault/kill police officers especially if you’re participating in an insurrection. Corporate America may not need to be quite as sanitized.

Too bad for mo jr he didn’t wait for the contract role of gio.

They should at least have made use of his resemblance to sonny if they went the nepo route.

R157 I agree with you. Genie’s bitter because she never made it ‘big’ outside of soaps so she takes her anger out on soaps, yet still keeps working on them. And, Wendy Riche wasn't wrong when she told Genie she’s fat. lol

I remember when they exiled poor Genie to Loving.

When they saddled Genie to that god-awful Loving and paired her with the gay Jean LeClerc, she was like , oh no, not again.

R158 So much of GH is on YouTube now, but that storyline still is not. I would love to rewatch the scene when Hamilton is reading Laura's poetry to her face, making fun of her, then she slams her hands down on him, pushing him into the hearth and killing him while running out of the apartment - not knowing the damage she caused.

Genie was fucking amazing!

It was before they gave out Best Ingenue Emmys - she definitely would have gotten it!

My first thought when actors complain about what they've been subjected to as actors is: "Was someone holding a gun to your head forcing you to be an actor? No? Then go be an accountant, nurse, etc. if it's so awful".

Why was Genie putting herself through such hardship as a teenager? Was she supporting her family? I do feel sorry for the kid actors who become their family's breadwinner.

Anyone have any guess as to what Genie's top salary was?

The original Rick Webber was so fucking hot. Then they replaced him with boring Dr. Beanie Baby.

I don't feel like doing a search, plus it's been posted in this thread many times, but anyone who wants to know Genie's nightmare can google the Lifetime Biography done about her back in the 90s.

She tells all!! and it wasn't pretty!

(Genie specifically mentions one person who was particularly cruel to her without naming the name. We later learned it was Gloria Monty.)

I doubt that the always put upon Genie was supporting her family way back when. Her father was a very popular actor who appeared on dozens of tv shows in the 50’s, 60’s and 70’s. Including GH for a short while. He could support the family just fine.

And Genie's been married to the extremely successful actor Jonathan Frankes since 1988! Two children. I mean, what the hell does she expect out of life? She has had more success than 99.99999% of us. Spoiled brat.

Wasn’t Miss Hansis “teaching” acting and sending in unsolicited tapes to Frank? God, Van is awful. He should have stuck to “teaching” acting.

Genie was the Judy Garland of GH.

She's a bit of a porker. Could stand to lose a few.

Agreed, R175.

Taj Bellows' (TJ) IMDB lists his GH role as 2018-2024. Does that mean he's off contract and now recurring or gone altogether?

They should at least have a scene of him accepting a great offer at a hospital in California or somewhere far away.

Tabyana's birthday this weekend with Evan, someone named Priscilla, Jacqueline Grace Lopez (Blaze), Annika Noelle (B&B).

The actors who play Kai and Quinn were also there.

IMDB is notoriously riddled with inaccuracies or incomplete information. Not saying he isn't off contract R177 but just that IMDB can't be considered a dependable source.

Frank is a control freak to the max. C. 2008/9 when Nelson Branco was electrifying the cancellation gossip, Matt Walton (who was on OLTL as Eli) called me in a tizzy re: the cancellation rumors. He got it second hand from someone who was regurgitating Nelson, but he failed to mention his source. I understood it to mean cancellation was imminent. I in turn told Ilene Kristen who told her agent who completed the cycle and called Frank who called Ilene demanding to know the source. She was at wit's end not wanting to out Matt, because she said, "You don't know what he can do to you." I said I would take the fall. Frank called me directly and scolded me for upsetting his actor. "Next time, you call me!" as if I'd had a direct line. He is a survivor because he is so controlling. Ilene and Matt don't seem to be working much but there's Frank still at the helm.

Nelson Branco. A true asshole. He got what he deserved.

R149 Right but he also fired her, well dropped her to recurring status with plans to eventually write her off canvas, in 2018. Genie was able to get her contractual status reinstated through the network; many fans were outraged as well.

*Many fans were outraged as well and voiced their opinions, though not to the extent of Becky's firing during the Guza/Frons/Phelps era at R182

R150 That's true

R151 😁😁

Going way back again.....Amy was an enjoyable character but I wish they had made her a more serious character with a competent actress. Then they could have explored the sister relationship and when they got older do a Vining family mystery. Had that wing of Laura's family as the molester. What they did with the Rick character was unforgivable. The appearance of Laura into Leslie's life was barely explained. There was so much potential with Amy/Laura conflict. Anyway, this is the closest I could find to some David Hamilton stuff. When Leslie finds out Laura had remembered killing David before Leslie went on trial. Good stuff.

R152 Actually Lorraine Broderick was interim head writer after Charles Pratt's firing for three months, in early 2010, before Kreizman and Swajeski took over, only for Broderick to take over from them during the final three months of AMC, as you stated. Broderick was the HW when the AMC episodes first filmed in Los Angeles, with Greenlee's return from the dead/wedding to David, etc.

Broderick also coincidentally was Frank's first choice to HW GH when Frons offered him the job; however she wasn't interested, so Ron was brought in. Frank and Ron were both originally headed to Prospect Park/The Online Network to helm OLTL.

Did Frank tweet out when asshole Nelson Branco croaked off? Nope! Rest in fucking hell Nelson Branco!

R155 What happened at AMC for Genie to feel disrespected? I know she was presented with offers to play a recast Sarah on OLTL and a recast Caroline on B&B, yet she chose AMC. Also, was her character really named Tyger on Bare Essence, or was that a nickname?

R162 Joshua can always come back, possibly as a twin of Spencer's? Sonny's son with Claudia that didn't arrive?

Susan Lucci happened to Genie.

*Didn't survive at R190

R168 Genie and Tony were both paid a million dollars a year to return to GH in 1993.

Susan Lucci was the first soap star to earn a million dollars a year.

R173 😊😊

R177 Rumor is he's out soon

R178 Avery was there if I'm not mistaken, though not her other "bestie" Eden.

R180 I remember you mentioning this story before, except you didn't name names, respectfully. Matt Walton was extremely popular on OLTL but when it comes to Frank, if you get on his bad side, none of that matters.

R191 😁

Um, I made a million a year.

Are you guys watching more now, regularly or even sporadically?

R200 True 😁 but Lucci was first. Many fans say you're the better actress, if that helps any 😁

The third Victoria can never give it a rest.

Could the show have afforded a better winter coat for Alice Grant?

[R198] It was time for full disclosure. LOLZ. Names make it more interesting. Also, Matt and Ilene don't seem to mind. Frank did bring Ilene to GH, so apparently he was not that pissed at her. However, having known them back in NYC, it gave me a perspective. Frank knew me and didn't connect the dots when speaking to me in person. I mentioned that Roxy and David would have been a great pairing. Ilene said that Frank didn't like bananas with bananas, but isn't that what David and Dorian were?

The person above is right; they could never tell the David Hamilton story today, and that is why soaps are barely hanging on. They lost their ability to be genuinely shocking and provocative.

R205 Appreciate your willingness to divulge information 😊 names definitely paint a colorful picture. Roxy and David, never thought of them together, though not a bad idea. Bananas with bananas in the sense that Dorian in his eyes apparently wasn't as off her rocker as Roxy, I'm assuming lol however to your point, Dorian was pretty out there.

David Vickers [r206]

[quote] The person above is right; they could never tell the David Hamilton story today, and that is why soaps are barely hanging on. They lost their ability to be genuinely shocking and provocative.

Shows have lost the ability to tell a story, period. They could do something like the David Hamilton story if it was rooted in reality and/or the context or history of a show.

Now, most shows see history as an albatross and either retcon it or disregard it entirely.

[R205] Tuc and Sergio lived upstairs from Ilene at the time. This was pre-Andrew, pre JPL -- Pre-West Coast. Tuc btw is truly a good person.

I believe Tuc is a nice guy.

Tuc's great. I know about Sergio and Andrew, but were Tuc and JPL really a thing, R210? I've heard they were; I knew they were extremely close friends and I've heard JPL is part of the community, discreetly, however, I was wondering if some were reading too much into their friendship 😊

I've been watching your house. I know your schedule.

[R212] quite possibly reading too much into it, but it was great to see those photos with Tuc essentially outing himself. There were even pics with Tuc's kids. JPL seemed to proclaim to all in Lincoln Center area by wearing pajama bottoms to work. OLTL had a great cast for the most part.

Didn't Tracy go to AMC for a time?

R214 You're referring to the pics of Tuc and JPL frequently going out together? OLTL did have a pretty great cast. Even Michael Logan once proclaimed the cast as the best group of actors in daytime, he just wasn't always impressed with the writing.

R215 You're correct about Jane going to AMC, as Cynthia Preston, who was younger involved with Palmer iirc, a con artist that was bilking him, or at least planning too. I think she might've even married Palmer.

Tracy, however, was on The City from 1996-1997

*Cynthia Preston, who was brought on & involved with Palmer, a con artist that was bilking him, or at least planning to.

I remember Jane discussing AMC in an interview she gave when she "retired" a few years back.

I don't know that her AMC role was the best match for her, but she said AMC had the most welcoming cast and a real "family atmosphere. (Aside from Looch, one assumes.)

Cynthia Preston, coincidentally the name of the actress who played Faith Rosco

Does anyone with a brain doubt that JPL is gay???

R219 😊 It seems usually someone says AMC was a real close knit cast, or as Anna Stuart once said, too many egos, unlike her experience at AW. Sarah Michelle Gellar loved the cast slumber parties she would have with Kelly Ripa, Eva La Rue and a few others, sans Susan Lucci, of course 😊

R221 😂

But yet Leven Rambin says AMC was a toxic set. Go figure.

Some actors find sets incredibly toxic; others find a second home filled with dear friends they stay in touch with forever.

DAYS is like this; it's a little island as it's NBC's (now Peacock's) only soap. Some people love it there; others run for the hills.

R224 Michael B. Jordan wasn't happy there either. It's usually either really good or really bad, though to Jane's credit, she was there in the 80's, while Anna, Leven and Michael B. were all there in the 2000's

R225 True 😁 DOOL and B&B are pretty close, overall, for the most part; not as cliquish as Y&R or GH.

[quote][[R205]] Tuc and Sergio lived upstairs from Ilene at the time. This was pre-Andrew, pre JPL -- Pre-West Coast. Tuc btw is truly a good person.

Who are Sergio and Andrew? Not familiar with the names in association with Tuc? Boyfriends?

Matt Walton should have been a big soap star. I really liked the Eli Clark character. But suddenly the show made him a villain responsible for half the bad things that happened in Llanview.

What happened there? Why didn't Matt last at OLTL? Why did they suddenly rewrite everything to make Eli the crinimal behind so many bad things?

I don't blame either Chadwick Boseman or Michael B Jordan for their negative impressions of AMC.

Soaps haven't been especially enlightened about a lot of things and the black experience is right up there. Jack "saving" Reggie is not unlike Nancy Hughes "saving" Kira or YR's Drucilla having a rich older sister and yet being illiterate.......

[R226] Leven was a nightmare. AMC at one point was a hot bed of Coke abuse.

[R226] Darnell Williams was on board as Michael B's acting coach, whatever that meant.

Someone on here once accused you of being Darnell, Huggy. I didn't believe it but I wanted it to be true.

I'm sure Darnell tried to get him some.

Lucci was the final straw that drove Taylor Miller away too. I think AMC was a so called welcoming set if you the mean girls liked you. Most of the men were gays and not interested.

R228 Hope R205 won't mind me answering for them; yes, you're right about them being Tuc's boyfriends. Sergio Schwark is Tuc's ex, while Andrew Rannells is Tuc's current.

Sergio Schwark is hot!

Ms. Rannells looks like a baboon's ass, but he must have serious sizemeat.

[R233] Interesting that. There are a few degrees of separation. I am friendly with more than one AMCer. When one lives and works in NYC for over a decade, one meets people as one does. I hung out on the Upper West as one does. There are stories I could tell.

R230 Excellent point. Still find it interesting that Chadwick and Michael B. both played the exact same role, only for them to stay together in a blockbuster movie. Michael B. said that Walt Willey used to yell at him to turn his music down on set; Michael E. Knight adored Michael B., though Michael E. seems to get along with practically everyone.

Kira on ATWT was portrayed by Lauryn Hill, right?

Drucilla being illiterate while Olivia went on to become a rich successful doctor, did they grow up in the same household? I never knew too much of their backstory.

African-American characters on soaps pre-2000's either tended to be really successful or really poverty-stricken, from my observation. There was never really any in between

*Only for them to play together in a blockbuster movie at R240

R231 Cocaine use in the 80's mainly, or throughout the 90's/2000's? In the 80's I know cocaine use was common practice on many television/film sets. Care to share your thoughts on Leven being a "nightmare" 😊

It's probably in poor taste since he's going through a lot, however Cam Mathison and Eden Riegel weren't exactly nice to everyone either. They were both on an episode of The View once with Michael B. and Kassie DePaiva. Cam and Eden ignored Michael B., almost like that had no idea who he was; Kassie went up to Michael B and hugged him, which seemed to brighten his day.

Huggy, it could be that some of your comments have a strong ring of truth.

*Almost like they had no idea who he was at R241 for Cam and Eden both apparently had big egos outside of that instance back then

Did Larry Lau ever partake in the Darnell Williams meat?

For some reason, I don't think Lucci would have tried her mean-girl schtick on Jane Elliot. As they used to say back in the day, Jane don't play.

R232 Personally Michael B.'s acting coach, similarly to Holly Gagnier with actors, or was he the AMC onset coach?

Huggy you're definitely in the know somehow 😊😁

R235 Lucci was why Taylor Miller exited? Robin Strasser practically said that's why she quit as Christina Karras; according to her, it was nearly impossible for any other actress to shine since they were all pretty much in the shadows of Erica Kane. Those weren't her exact words, though that was the gist of it. She was supposed to play another character on OLTL before AMC's Christina, believe it was Kathy Craig, a rival of Viki's. When she inquired about the other actress playing Kathy, she was informed that the actress in question was being fired. Robin refused to play the part upon learning that was taking place.

Potentially playing Kathy and subsequently Christina were both pre-Dorian at R247

R237 🤣🤣

Was there much made here of the MEK and James Scott thing?

I believe that in its entire run Nina was the only character that rivaled Erica in popularity. Probably Jenny too but Kim couldn't wait to leave. Taylor was getting tired of basically play an exaggerated version of herself. She had other offers coming in, paying gobs of many, from nearly every other soap. That's about when Lucci started antagonizing the writers about the Nina character getting more attention, near equal money, blah blah blah.....Taylor just said you know what...bye. The third Victoria knew to start before they came. She personally nixed Cali Timmons as the Tina recast AFTER READING AND TESTING WITH HER. Sorry to derail a GH thread but I know a lot more about AMC and a little more about OLTL.

Lots

R245 Agreed. There's definitely traces of Tracy in Jane 😁 not in bad way though.

Back then [r243] Cam had an addiction problem. I don't know if he still does.

R250 Yes, as gossip trickled in and we heard what happened.

R250 I know exactly what you're referring to 😊 I don't like mentioning it because I like Michael and it makes him look bad. I'm not sure if someone referenced it here before though.

When I head people talking about how great it was to work with Susan Lucci and how she was beloved by everyone in the AMC cast, I never really bought into that idea. Always rang false. The more I read it, the less I believed it.

Similarly, when I heard people talking about how great Maurice Benard is and how beloved he is by everyone at GH, that especially rang false. The more I heard actors saying that, he more it seemed like they were following orders from TPTB at GH and ABC to speak glowingly of Maurice.

That was my gut feeling long before I discovered DataLounge and got all the inside scoop on shows.

Any info on JPS's stint on AMC? He admits he was a jerk back then. He also said Genie Francis and her husband were nice to him and would take him out to dinner and order tons of food and insist he take all the leftovers home since he was broke.

[R256] It makes James look really really bad. MEK not so much.

[quote]Back then [[R243]] Cam had an addiction problem. I don't know if he still does.

Never heard he had addiction issues. What was Camerson's drug(s) of choice?

James was such an asshole, for sure. And he was so atrociously terrible. I remember how horrifically bad his initial scenes were. He definitely learned on the job.

R251 Oh wow that's interesting, I never heard that story. You're not derailing the thread at all, do you ever post in the AMC threads? Were Julia Barr or Kate Collins ever issues for Lucci? I've heard that she had problems with Deborah Goodrich and of course Sarah Michelle Gellar, infamously having her fired with the whole either she goes or I go ultimatum after Sarah Michelle won her Best Younger Actress Emmy.

Cali Timmons, I remember hearing that she was practically hired as Tina, only to not get the part. The entire story for Tina was scrapped; I don't recall the reason though it was apparently a smokescreen to not make Erika look bad.

R257 Very intuitive 😁😁 I actually love Lucci but she isn't all sugar & spice and everything nice.

Was Cali Timmons to play Tina after Andrea's second stint? Kelli Moroney I know played her for 10 minutes in between Andrea's 1st and 2nd.

R259 I suppose I should say its pretty embarrassing for Michael. James really played upon his emotions, so yes it definitely makes him look bad. I wonder how it got out that James has a huge dick 😁 someone leaked that info

The whole trajectory of OLTL would have been different if Cali had come on as Tina.

Marsha Clark (ex-Hillary on GL) played Tina briefly in 1984-85

Nancy Frangione (ex Cecile on AW) also played Tina briefly in 1985 before Andrea Evans returned. .

R264 Cali was scheduled to play Tina in 2002, somewhere around there iirc, well after Andrea's aw ins stint, Karen Witter and Krista Tesreau.

OLTL (Slezak) did Cali dirty and then Another World did her dirty. Maybe I'm jaded and mean, but I saw the MEK and James Scott thing as a new young actor trying to get an in and found the perfect way to do it.

Lucci had a seething hatred for Deborah Goodrich. Goodrich was a real threat to the Erica character. There was not a single scene where the totally inexperienced Goodrich didn't steal from Lucci. You don't even need rumors for that. If you were watching at the time you will agree everyone loved Silver, loved someone finally giving it to Erica, and were so mad when they wrote her out in such a sudden, ridiculous way.

*Well after Andrea's second stint and after Cali's AW stint, that should read at R268

Same here r257. Sometimes, here at DL, I would answer posts quoting that type of peer testimonial with this quote from The Manchurian Candidate:

[quote] Raymond Shaw is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life.

R266 In a good or a bad way?

I fucking followed Cali to AW. Then one day I tuned in and her character was a fat frau.

James, of course, has repented (supposedly) and is now living on an ashram or some such shit.

R267 Right technically there's six actresses that played Tina

I'm going to yell at myself and remind others that we have a thread for AMC and OLTL chat, this one is for GH specifically.

Here's the current AMC/OLTL thread

R269 You're mean 😁 just kidding

R279 Definitely explains a lot. Silver, well Deborah's version, probably was always supposed to be Erica's sister, until Tad if I'm not mistaken recognized her as this grifter named Connie Wilkes from California, prior to the actual disturbed Silver showing up down the line.

R277 Duly noted 😁😁

Meant for R270 at R279

Sadly, too good to be true

R282 If only ☺️

Unfortunately, LW and her big caboose aren't going anywhere.

She looks like an Office Manager with secretarial spread.

She could do a Jardiance commercial.

Have you seen Jimmy Lee's cock pics?

R286. I have Amy! Very impressive!

R274 Wait, are you referring to Judi Evans Luciano?

[quote]She looks like an Office Manager with secretarial spread.

She could play Ginny in Billing in the DataLounge movie!

That ass could play the entire Billing department.....

Only seen a few of Mo's mental health podcasts, but enough to know that even Mo doesn't believe that he was beloved to work with.

I’d like Carly again if LW left

R204 Alice was a maid during a time when detail oriented producers were still in place. Alice could afford that coat.

the actress who played Alice was brilliant. There hasn't been an actress who played downtrodden that well since Barbara Stanwyck in Stella. I truly mean that. Just seeing her on the TV made me want to go get some clothes and donate them to the Salvation Army.

I don't hate you Heather. I just know you. You belong in that sanitarium.

R293, Lieux Dressler was a great supporting actress. She should have won an Emmy.

Odd that both Lesley and Monica would have maids named Alice.

Alice was a great 'talk to' for Lesley when she went through that ordeal with Rick. First, being attracted to Monica. Then, wanting to make love to her. THEN, actually making love to her.

It's when soaps were soaps.

Wasn't Lieux(love that name by the way) Dressler only about five years older than Robin Mattson?

I've posted it before but I think the Diana Taylor murder was the best soap story ever.

I always felt so bad for Alice Grant...such a sad sack who never caught a break. And no, she did not kill Diana Maynard Taylor!

Alice's apartment looks exactly like it should.

[quote] I always felt so bad for Alice Grant...such a sad sack who never caught a break.

The actress who played her, whose parents named her LIEUX, was a natural on that alone.

We shall call her lieux…instead of a real name. (Pun acknowledged)

R295 odd that the Monica actress was named Leslie. Happens.

R296 I’d agree that the Diana/heather saga was one of the best ever.

It got me hooked on the genre for almost 50 years now (I was pretty young I swear).

R301, Y&R has that in spades.

Tricia Dennison (played by Sabrin Genet) and Tricia Cast (who plays Nina)

Joshua Morrow (Nicholas) and stepdad Joshua Landers (Heath Kizzier), Nick's stepdad

Michael Baldwin (played by Christian LeBlanc) and Danny Romalotti (Michael Damian) in the sexual harassment storyline.

Beth Maitland plays Traci; Tracey Bregman plays Lauren

Sharon Case and Sharon Newman...wait.

[quote] Michael Baldwin (played by Christian LeBlanc) and Danny Romalotti (Michael Damian) in the sexual harassment storyline.

There was another character named Michael at one point, too, on at the same time CLB was first introduced as Michael Baldwin

I remember there are about five of us in the room watching General hospital. When it was revealed that Alice was the killer we all just jumped up and screamed no one saw that coming

R304 Colby Chester was attorney Michael Crawford on yr

Laura Wright has the bookkeeper’s arse.

well.

The Diana Taylor murder twist sure was a twist but let's face it: Diana never would have died if Heather hadn't gone there to kill her and frame Anne Logan

Heather should have gone to jail anyway.

What kind of show lets someone get away with murder?

Drink your ice tea Diana.

[quote] Laura Wright has the bookkeeper’s arse.

The Bookkeeper? That sounds familiar. I think he won The Preakness one year.

I'm watching the complete Susan Moore Baldwin murder storyline on YT. Damn good stuff!

I remember reading that was confusion in the studios at Guiding Light when the name Beth was called over the loudspeaker. Beth Ehlers played Harley while Beth Chamberlain played Beth (and Maeve Kinkead played Vanessa Chamberlain).

I think at the studio when actors are called to set they are called by the character's name, to avoid that kind of confusion.

Carlo Rota (Jenz Sidwell) is going to kiss the ring and be on Mo's show.

Emma is 21 and too old to have grandma Anna and Aunt Felicia monitoring what time she came home from the club. Her money schemes/cons are also juvenile so far. They should have made the character 18 to make this story line work.

At 21, she should have her own apartment and be an obnoxious Influencer or running a successful OnlyFans and give Anna something legitimate to be outraged about. Outrage over a 21 year old coming home at 2:00 a.m. is ridiculous.

I was selling babies, slipping bitches LSD, and plotting murders at 21. Times change I guess.

Heather makes a great point. They fall back to coming home late stories for a 21-year-old because they can't tell real stories for a 21-year-old any longer that wouldn't piss off a significant portion of the audience.

Let me play my fiddle to symbolize my young man angst.

Good times. Good times.

It definitely would have been more interesting if 21 year old Emma had shown up back in town dressed in designer clothes and driving a fancy car leaving every one wondering where she got the money. The viewers are clued into her making videos for OnlyFans while everyone else in town is wondering if she has a rich old sugar daddy or what. Then one of her fans starts stalking her and Anna has to find the stalker. While combining through the list of Emma's paying fans Anna finds Drew's name...

Better than lifting people's wallets and scamming animal charities.

*combing

How dare r319 forget that Gio is also a Corinthos!?! There will be some barware flung against the all for that!!

Giolin's acting and screen presence has improved but he's still not necessary.

Is the BLQ actress just going to keep getting pregnant in real life so they can't fire her?

Maybe Chase wouldn't have a fertility problem if his wife would get naked.

I hope we get to see more of Tracy and Martin together.

So Swickard - who should leave GH - to see what else is out there - renewed his contract for this shit???? What a dumbass! Stupid story. No room for acting growth saddled with the fat assed actress who won’t take off her clothes.

Has Charles Mesure ever made out with a woman? That kiss with Snaggles looked very uncomfortable.

RUMORMILL says Sidwell is a Cassadine. yawn.

R329. I believe you. Funny though, as a Cassadine, you'd think he would have heard of Lucky Spencer before abducting him in Africa. Another retcon....

R328 I have always thought he’s a gay homosexual but LW used to be maybe still is a smoker so I wouldn’t want to get near her breath and her hair probably stinks of smoke as well

Charles Mesure does identify as gay. He’s not into women.

gay!!

Wouldn't this Gio is BLQ and Dante's son be at least a tiny bit interesting if Gio actually had some interaction with Dante?

Either conflict or camaraderie. Dante and Gio crossing paths in the kitchen or Dante perpetually pissed at Gio for blocking his car in the driveway. Gio and Rocco not getting along and Dante playing peacemaker. Something. Anything. No one is invested in this, no build up except shifty glances from Lois. The reveal will fall flat. No one is invested in forever frumpily dressed BLQ who goes full hazmat suit in the bedroom with the most desirable guy on the show.

Breakup Chase and frumpy BLQ and free Chase to do what soap hunks are supposed to do.

I say bring on Colleen Zenk as recast Monica!

CZ would be a good addition to the cast but I don't think even FV would deny the viewers a proper send off for Leslie Charleson and the opportunity to pass the house on to Tracy.

CZ as Liz's recast mother or a paternal aunt of Nina's since Liesel is a maternal aunt or a relative of Sidewell's.

CZ as Liz’s mom would be great

Frank doesn’t want to add another drunk onto his cast. Sorry, CZP.

A lot of us wanted CZ as Liz's mom when that casting was happened.

Of all the GH fuckups, what they did to Jeff Webber and wife was one of the worst.

The cold, militant, personality-free woman from Star Trek with the huge bags under her eyes and the milquetoast Jeff Webber were an abomination.

There are at least a 100 or more reasons to justify firing Frank.

[R337] That, too! Bring her on, Frankie Vee! I know you lurk here. Allora, Franco?

Huggy Bear, dear....you don't have to type brackets around the post number. (Otherwise they're just extra, as you can see in your post at R341.) Just put R and the post number, all together, no spaces, and the brackets will be added for you.

[quote] Wouldn't this Gio is BLQ and Dante's son be at least a tiny bit interesting if Gio actually had some interaction with Dante? Either conflict or camaraderie. Dante and Gio crossing paths in the kitchen or Dante perpetually pissed at Gio for blocking his car in the driveway. Gio and Rocco not getting along and Dante playing peacemaker. Something. Anything. No one is invested in this, no build up except shifty glances from Lois.

If the writers had any idea what to do with Gio, perhaps they would indeed be giving us Gio-Dante conflict scenes. Or Gio-Rocco at odds scenes. But that takes a bit of planning on the part of the writers. And they clearly have no idea what to do with Gio. He's been on since May and nine months later we know virtually nothing about him other than Sonny paid for his education.

Meanwhile,curfew breaking Emma Drake has been on less than 10 episodes and is already better defined than Gio.

Gio is Cody's son.

I would suggest Lucky as Gio's father.However, given that Lucky can't even be bothered to interact with his son Aiden, I doubt adding a new son will change much.

Given the fact that Lucky was off the canvas for 13 years, we could have dozens of his kids show up in the coming years.

Gio being Cody's would be even less interesting.

At least with him being Dante's it would add to the conflict between BLQ* and Lulu, make things awkward between police partners Dante and Chase, piss off Olivia that Lois didn't tell her she had another grandson and Gio could make it his mission to antagonize great granny Tracy at every opportunity. No conflict where Cody's concerned.

*BLQ as played by a fashionable and sexy Brianna Lane while AS takes a LONG maternity leave.

I loved AS on Oltl and thought her casting as Brooklyn was genius… what a letdown. Went from street smart whore to a non sexy puritan on GH. Where is her bitchy wit that would have made her a true Tracy jr? Is it the writing? Actress? All a mess!

If Gio were Cody's son, that would make him Mac's grandson. So, Mac could get an insta-son and an insta-grandson in less than a year's time.

But as r346 pointed out, not much conflict if he's a Scorpio. Much more conflict if he's a Quatermaine-Cerullo-Falconeri-Corinthos.

CZ could be Lorena Sharpe Barrington, Monica's cousin, old owner of the Avalon Spa, who comes back to do battle with that pathetic Marta and Chloe nail salon. She comes to town for a loan unaware Monica is dead. Instant rival for Tracy, possible love interest for Sidwell.

In real life, Carlo Rota (Sidwell) is married to a woman twenty years young than him. When I saw the photo I thought she was his daughter. They co-starred on 24 together.

Both Sidwell and Brennan (and sonny and Jason) have enough leading lady options onscreen with Carly, Nina, Lucy, Ava, Anna, Alexis, Natalia, Tracy and more.

Enough old lady actresses already.

[R351] If Monica is still on the canvas, she has to be played by someone in their 70s. js

I'll take Anna Stuart.

Well it's confirmed Dante IS the father.

Why such unflattering wardrobe for Rena?

R354. That costume designer needs to take a vacation. Lois and her high waisted Boleros don't cut it anymore.

The Baden Baden rooftop looks JUST like the terrace outside Lila's rose garden. I wonder if they had the same architect.

Grammarly Spokeswoman Kristen Vaganos (Molly) and Josh Kelly (Cody) could work.

It appears they dropped the Lulu/Cody possibility. I suspect AlexaCameronBure has it in her contract that she won't be kissing every Tom, Dick and Harry on the show and they need to pair her with someone permanently and she will only kiss that someone when they are filming and not even during rehearsal. JJ probably has similar requirements.

The positives of NuLulu are slowly oozing away

Mo snagged both Carlo Rota (Sidwell) and his wife Nasneen Contracter.

This Sunday Carlo, next Sunday Nasneen.

Makes me believe the Sidwell is a Cassadine rumors are true and that he will be around for a while.

Mo couldn't find a photo of Nasneen without her boobs hanging out?

Me thinks Mrs. Rota is hoping for a job on GH. Maybe she could be Sonny's new love interest since the Natalia thing is a bust. Or maybe she could work with her husband and be yet another Cassadine.

LuLu came back like a firecracker. Now she's in love with Dante? That's her big storyline? She clearly has brain damage because she forgot the hot cock Dustin was giving her right before she went into a coma. The show is pulling a DOUBLE fuck up (Lucky and Lulu).

I actually remember reading an article in soap opera digest in the 90s lol:

The name thing got confusing on the gh set because almost everyone was referred to by character name on set EXCEPT Gloria Monty called the actor tony Geary “tony.” And, of course, tony Jones was also on canvas then. I think Geary was playing bill.

Gio has clearly been hitting the gym so hard, filling out those henleys like a pro. Why won’t Frank give him the shirtless scenes he’s obviously prepping for?

R363. It will happen when NuEmma walks into the Q's or the Gym unprompted and Giolin comes out of the shower with a towel wrapped around his waist.

I'm surprised Frank hasn't asked the Gio actor to do something about his nose.

Gio's probably too busy doing something about Frankie's cock

You don't think they could possibly be thinking about recasting Monica do you? That would be ridiculous.

No. A whole lot of people have suggested Colleen Zenk as a nuMonica but more about seeing her on GH. I can't imagine her being recast now.

Monica is to iconic. I just read up on her character's history. I didn't know she had also been married to Jeff and was more than a little crazy when she first came on the scene dragging Gail with her.

They should have recast her 5 years ago or whenever she stopped working regularly.

Is anyone here communicating with Colleen?

R371 I see her posts on social media every so often. There was just a bunch of articles about her departure from YR

Colleen Zenk-Pinter isn’t coming to GH. Frank has NO interest. Frank doesn’t think she’s a very good actress, and he’s right. Did you watch her last Y&R episode? Very cringeworthy. Emmyless Colleen will not be invited to GH.

More importantly is Olivia getting discounted in favor of clownish Lois?

Olivia and Ned are both getting less screen time thanks to Lois' presence in the Q mansion.

And when was the last time we saw Olivia's son Leo?

Maxie's son James seems to have usurped him and now does all the cute kid scenes, especially with Cody.

Are they aging Leo so he can sit on Uncle Frankie's lap?

Oh goodie. Another old timer wants to box at the gym. Cameron Mathison is almost as ridiculous an actor as Mumbles.

How does Un-muscled weakling get on a football team? No kidding. Time for Trina to get a job at the diner and stay out of the major storylines.

Spencer would have been a more believable candidate for the NFL draft than Kai is.

Is Trina still on? That squeaky voiced mess of an actress? Ugh!

MARY!

Ironically, Denise Crosby bears a resemblance to Robin Mattson; so Jeff's third wife looks like his second.

The show blew it by not writing that Jeff reunited with Anne Logan and SHE is LIz's mom.

Susan Pratt showed up at a few GH past cast events a while ago and looked amazing. She and Robin could have gone another round.

I do think it's odd that there are some eras of GH that the show hardly ever dips into. Are we ever going to see Sly Eckert? The show mostly taps into super popular times of the show. Wisely.

Random cousins make messy family trees. We don’t need more complicated relationships. Looking at you, sly eckert and Celia quartermaine.

Celia Quartermaine WAS the Quartermaines back in the day.

Celia Quartermaine IS Sherilyn Wolter

Actually, Colleen Zenk could play Celia quite fabulously if Sherilyn W wasn't available.

So now Cody knew that Brooklyn was pregnant? Didn’t they meet on screen for the first time when he came to town?

That's what I was thinking, r387. They didn't even know each other when Cody unnecessarily blew into town.

Frankie V. and all his useless new characters and retcons to accommodate the useless new characters. Cody, Gio, Peter...

VIDEO LINK.....June 8, 2022......[bold] Cody meets Brooke Lynn. [/bold] They don't know each other. (2:13 mark)...

R326 Tracy & Martin are slated for romance, sans any last minute rewrites.

R327 Josh almost left last year when his contract was up, only to stay at the last minute

R334 Right 😁 because it's a rewrite. Giovanni was supposed to be Drew's son; Mulcahey planned that yet Dante and Brook Lynn became his parents after Mulcahey was out/the "reset."

R347 The actress and her reservations

R348 Also would interrupt any planned romance between Giovanni and Emma, it would be like Cody/Sasha all over again

R353 What's interesting is that Anna Stuart played Dr. Gina Dante-Lansing on GH, married to Dr. Gary Lansing, shortly in the 70's. You're probably aware though some viewers from 80's- present might not have known.

R356 😆😆

[quote]The actress and her reservations

More like the actress and her stranglehold on the character.

Could she work at Sephora or a department store cosmetics counter and refuse to wear makeup?

In many ways, she's no different than Mo, she calls the shots on her character and story line to the detriment of the show. Josh should be part of a hot couple creating SM buzz and being featured on whatever few soap sites are left.

R357 Believe it or not, Dominic doesn't like playing triangles where he's in competition with another man. Josh and Alexa were both apparently interested in what Cody and Lulu could get themselves into. Dominic was able to have the Dante/Lulu/Johnny and the Dante/Lulu/Dustin triangles stopped; certain actors have relationships with TPTB where they can ask for certain favors, within reason.

Steve Burton also isn't a fan of triangles where he's competing with another man.

R360 😁

R363 Frank's gatekeeping Giovanni for himself 😁 jkjk

[quote]Steve Burton also isn't a fan of triangles where he's competing with another man.

Especially if his wife get's pregnant by other man.

R367 No recast; there will be Monica sendoff scenes.

R382 Becky Herbst actually wanted Annie Logan as Elizabeth's mother, when she first arrived in 1997. Although Jeff was the father, Sarah- originally named Nia and Elizabeth's mother wasn't defined. Becky read Jeff's history and determined that Annie should be there mother. When Hayden/Rachel came to town, her mother Naomi was considered as Elizabeth's mother as well, with Sarah's mom being Carolyn.

*Determined that Annie should be their mother at R404.

Hayden and Elizabeth would've been twins until it was explained that Elizabeth was the older sister.

R387 Fans are mentioning that oversight 😁

R388 😆

R389 Rewrites and retcons sometimes ruin everything.

R397 A Mo comparison for Amanda 😁😁

R402 Yikes 😬 but that's pretty clever 😊

Previews For Next Week:

Monday, February 3rd, 2025

Lulu tries to support Dante

Sonny consoles Alexis

Trina is taken aback

Sasha is in for a surprise

Elizabeth sees through Lucky’s façade

_____________________________

Tuesday, February 4th, 2025

Lucky opens up to Liz

Felicia puts Sasha on the spot

Carly makes a discovery

Jordan reveals her plan to Isaiah

Drew makes a shocking claim

_______________________________

Wednesday, February 5th, 2025

Alexis, Molly and Kristina strategize

Sasha lashes out

Willow makes a decision

Lucas gives Carly his two cents

Tracy is livid

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Thursday, February 6th, 2025

Dante makes a plea

Rocco hears something he shouldn’t

Lois seeks out Martin

Portia checks in with Brad

Nina makes a surprising move

_____________________________

Friday, February 7th, 2025

Nina tries to form an alliance

Sonny gets medical news

Lulu has a tense encounter

Laura warns Drew

Jordan briefs Anna

R405 Was Hayden really necessary? Rebecca Budig could've easily been a recast Sarah. The Sarah character wasn't really notable in their prior incarnations. Obviously, she's not working as a recast Taylor on B&B.

The Jennifer Hudson Show with Finola, Tanisha, Laura, Donnell, Cameron and Mo will air Wednesday, February 5th.

Whose heart is Sonny going to get?

The problem with all these retcons and rewrites is that they weaken the storytelling. Why invest in a story that’s playing out now if it ultimately gets retconned a year or two from now? It chips away at the integrity of the show and turns viewers off in the process. It’s a really lazy way to write a show.

Did Kin Shriner ever get his hands in Steve Bond's pants?

I’m as underwhelmed with this blq/Dante/Cody retcon as I was with Sasha/holly.

This is dumb.

Right now, Lucky is asking Liz for 20 bucks for some gas money. And she gives him 40. What a fucking endless stream of men she has subjected her poor children to.

Surprised he’s not asking aiden for his paper route money.

R412 😁😁 no Hayden wasn't really necessary, at least not long-term; she was supposed to be a temporary character initially- though Frank & Ron, especially Frank, wanted Rebecca on GH for awhile prior to her being hired. Frank decided to bring her back with a four year contract, then promptly dismissed her two years in, to pay for Steve's contract, which was network mandated, courtesy of Maurice. Frank "allegedly" soured on Rebecca after her and Michael Easton became a little too close for comfort.

[quote]Frank "allegedly" soured on Rebecca after her and Michael Easton became a little too close for comfort.

And you all call me a cunt.

R421 Butcha are, Jill, you are!

Frank needs to be shown the door, Nathan Varni

Nathan Varni only allows accounts he has mentioned to comment on his X posts. He only mentions the GH account.

A paper route is not why Aiden is always coming home at the crack of dawn with a whole bunch of twenties wadded up in his pocket, R419.

25 year old Aiden, another one of Frank's brilliant decisions.

Question, why does Tracy not like Sasha?

The problem I have with the character Sonny Corinthos is that ABC has glorified a murderer. They seem to not understand that making Luke a main character was more acceptable because, although he was a rapist, he was filled with self-hate. Sonny repeatedly kills people (and does other nefarious things about which we are not told, but each of his crimes has victims), and there is not regret or self-hate or growth -- only justification. Off the top of my head, I remember seeing Sonny kill AJ Quartermaine, someone from the 'five families,' and most recently an FBI agent. He's never punished, he shows no remorse, and he continues to kill. That's a program's main character? He does good things for the community -- great! He's loyal to his family -- great! But neither of those things erase that he's a murderer and goodness knows what else. The character should either be made to pay or he should be written off. Keeping him as a leading man sends a terrible message to viewers and makes the show runners look spineless.

R428 All of this, plus the actor is way beyond his expiration date. He also dictates story, casting and pairings to Frank. He is now indistinguishable from his character and the entire show is compromised because of him. Last week the character of Natalia had scenes with Lucy and we got to see another, lighter side of the character. Mo is bringing everyone on that stage down with him.

Makes me wonder how bad the frau backlash would be if Mo were suddenly fired.

R421 😁

R423 Any other show/network would've fired Frank by now, especially with ratings consistently faltering.

R427 Some are wondering the same thing; seems to be from when Sasha was with Cody/at Deception. Sasha originally being somewhat of a scammer might have something to do with as well.

Recap of Carlo Rota (Sidwell) on Mo's show:

Mo is tired of hearing complaints about his dyed black hair. He wants it grey. TPTB his hair black.

Mo introduced Carlo as playing the character "Carlo". Guess he forgot he plays Sidwell. Mo said that before they started filming Carlo commented how beautiful his own wife is while she was sitting across the room. Then Carlo went on about how beautiful his wife is and how people can't believe he's married to her. Turned me off to Carlo.

Italian Carlo grew up poor in a ghetto in London, one toilet for entire apartment building. His father later became a successful Chef and the family traveled the world because of his job. He started acting when he was 30 after being in the restaurant business with his family.

When asked about mental health Carlo went off on a verbose tangent about how it's important to protect one's mental health in show business. Carlo finds cooking therapeutic and his wife talks him down when he feels like giving up.

Mo said that for him it's about ego. He had a vision when he was having one of his panic attacks that all his problems are about his ego. He told his agent about this vision and his agent told Mo he doesn't have an ego (WTF??). Mo says he told his agent he wants to be king and he's happy to be king but he doesn't want anyone else to be king. I loathe this guy, truly I do. I regret watching this episode. I thought I would like Carlo because he's from an immigrant Italian family and so am I, but I'm not particularly crazy about Carlo either.

They discussed the solace of prayer.

Carlo praised Mo's scene in the church with Sasha. He also said Steve is a solid guy who gave him solid advice on his first day.

Mo asked Carlo the former restaurateur how to make a good steak.

Carlo met his wife on the show Relic where she played his daughter. Then they ran into each other six years later when she was wearing "micro shorts that looked like she bought them at Toys R Us". He and his wife are different religions and his wife will explain more when she's on.

Maybe there was more, IDK. I lost interest.

R428 There are plenty of people who are wondering about this 😁 yet he was catapulted to leading man

R429 True 😁

R430 Pretty bad. He's a fan favorite amongst the Frau's.

R434 Great recap 👍 Mo's agent wanted to stay employed 😁

I DID NOT MURDER DR. PRENTICE!

I think it's time to bring Lucille Weeks back to the Nurse's Station to teach the current nurses how things should be done! For that matter, bring back the character Jessie Brewer (and her sweater).

I remember when Jessie gave Monica the business for being mean to Amy.

Bring Rachel Ames back as Audrey. She’s still alive.

It's hard to believe that characters like Steve, Audrey, Jessie, and others were once the leads. I wish there was someway to watch them when they were young. I've watched the second Heather Webber on YouTube. Her LSD story is on there. Her Heather was more pitiful that Robin's. The comments seem to say most loved the 2nd one more, even though they love Robin. Kin Shriner

to continue

Kin Shriner was the best looking guy they ever had on that show. If I could catalog shop for a boyfriend he would look like Kin.

I would not race home after school every day to watch that actress's version of Heather. Yikes.

Who do you think is the best character GH ever had? I would easily go with Robin's Heather. Then Monica and/or Tracy. I probably the only one that always hated Luke.

Best GH character ever...Laura Vining Webber Baldwin Spencer Collins....we watched her grow from a pre-teen to mid 60s. She's been the heroine, she's been the hero, she's been the open ear, she's been the shoulder to cry on, she's been the killer. Note, I'm not answering best ACTRESS of all time. But, as a character, Laura has left her mark for 50 years.

[quote]Who do you think is the best character GH ever had?

Nicholas Cassadine.

I have often said that, in my opinion, the Nicholas story is one of the best GH has ever done. It married the past with the then-present, and it showed what a damaged person Laura is. It caused a bunch of chaos and tension that lasted a couple of years. They couldn't sustain it long-term, but for a short while it was just the pinnacle of soap opera story-telling. Laura is a mess and nothing showcased that more than when Nicholas showed up. Tyler was perfectly cast and played the role incredibly well.

Kin was gorgeous back then, and still did it for me later on.

I mean we all hit a wall someday, but he looked good into the 90s and early 00s.

R447 You think LAURA is the best character? Seriously? She married her rapist. She slept with both Cassadine sons. She refused to acknowledge Nicholas was her son until Stefan forced her to. She probably killed Rick Webber. Her son is a jobless hobo and yet she pretends that's normal.

R450. Like her or hate her, her character certainly illicited a response from you. That's certainly a sign of a good, indelible character.

[quote]You think LAURA is the best character?

Think of Laura but laugh don't cry. I know she'd want it that way.

r434 Thanks for the weekly recaps of Mo's show. Saves me the trouble of sitting through all that crap. And listening to Mo's endless ego.

What I find interesting about Maurice is that at this stage of the game he still seems to be very affected by what the viewers say about him. Why would he care if the viewers are making fun of his dye job?

Best characters ever

Edward

Tracy

Monica

Og kevin collins was written like frasier crane

Robert

Laura has not been well written since the 90s.

Agreed she was a live wire. Now she turns in teenage trespassers for dropping their mitten.

Hm. Who else in the news right now has a fragile ego and control issues to draw an analogy?

Maurice Benard wants to be king, is happy being king, doesn't want anyone else to be king.

Let that sink in people.

The fact he doesn't have any qualms saying that out loud to a large audience confirms everything about him. None of it good.

Luckily my can’t terminate social security benefits on top of all the rest.

MB

Charles Mesure out as Jack Brennan, Chris McKenna in.

Love love love McKenna.

Measure likely thought heading back to AUS was prudent.

Mesure is a homosexual who got out. Chris McKenna is straight.

Mesure and LW had zero chemistry.

VERY interesting. McKenna is sexy as fuck. Poor boy has to snuggle up to Snaggletooth Broadass, but that's why it's called acting.

Frank's comment about Mesure's departure seemed rather cut and dry.

Wonder what happened. He's only been on Contract since September so he only did one 13-week cycle.

Mesure mentioned several times he has trouble remembering his lines and also adjusting to the fast soap pace. Were they having to do too many takes with him to get it right and he was costing them time and money? Just spit balling...

I picture Charles and Adam Harrington commiserating over dinner and drinks.

Snagzilla chewed both Charles and Adam up and spit them out. Snagzilla is on to her next victim.......

McKenna is so so hot. Loved his full frontal scene in King Of The Ants.

McKenna was hot as fuck on Y&R.

My bad, it wasn't Frank who made the curt statement about Mesure's departure, it was "a representative for GH" who made the statement. Which probably means Frank anyway....

There's been speculation here on DL that Laura Wright didn't like being paired with Charles Mesure, wanted someone hotter. Also speculation that she would use her power to get rid of Mesure.

Looks like that speculation was right on target.

I look forward in seeing how Chris McKenna does as Brennan.

But part of the allure of Jack Brennan was his Australian accent. So, it will almost be like a new characte if McKenna plays it with an American accent.

I mean, imagine Robert Scorpio without the Australian accent or Anna DeVane without the British accent.

Looks like all the fawning Mesure did over LW on X was for naught.

Mesure is only 53 but looks older plus he needed to drop a few pounds which lately it appears he had. I guess he wasn't the catch HRH The Duchess of Wide-Ass envisioned for her beady eyed self.

Whether he left because he wanted to, or was pushed, I imagine our new president and Holy Roller gov't is a silver lining for him, if he's going home. Anybody that CAN leave, should, esp the gays. We're into American's Dark Ages, again.

It would be wise to drop the Aussie accent and not put that added pressure on McKenna.

They should have learned their lesson with MEK who was unable to keep up the accent. Actually, they should have learned with John J. York and his faux Aussie accent. They did come up with a reason for Lois to drift in and out of her accent which is less pressure on Rena after 30 years or however long it's been.

Kathleen Gati said it took a lot to get into character with the accent. She had to isolate herself and focus before scenes and was unable to joke around and engage with her co-stars and those around her before scenes due to the pressure to remain on point with the accent.

The accents certainly do add to the character. I can't imagine Lisel Obrecht being nearly as scary and fierce without the German accent.

Over at Days, Joe Mascolo, who played Stefano, had to use his Italian accent throughout his day in the studio. Co-workers reported being surprised to see him outside of work and discovering he spoke in an American accent.

Hotter than Mesure? CM is hot but they are hot in completely different ways

CM was okay but McKenna has more of a dirty boy hotness.

The only negative is he's probably a bit more like Ric Hearst

Speaking of Rick Hearst. If they put McKenna on contract they better also put Hearst on contract.

[quote]I picture Charles and Adam Harrington commiserating over dinner and drinks.

I like that imagery. Charles and Adam would be hot together.

He's no Dan Rooney.

LW's tweet:

Big love to Charles !!! And a Big Welcome to Chris McKenna !!!! And a Big hug to all the fans - we love you so much and we are so grateful for you all !!!!! #GHBaby !!!

So did Mesure refuse to suck Frank’s dick???

How long until Mkenna is forced to go on Mumbles shitty yt show?

Watch your back, Chris. Don't get too popular with the viewers or someone will get upset you're trying to steal his throne.

[quote] Big love to Charles !!! And a Big Welcome to Chris McKenna !!!! And a Big hug to all the fans - we love you so much and we are so grateful for you all !!!!! #GHBaby !!!

Translation: I'm a fuckin' lady! When I backstab someone I clean up after and wipe up all the blood!

Poor Charles...but he looked like he was going to vomit having to "kiss" Snaggles

they should bring back Noah Drake and Joe Kelly.

R488. Douglas Sheehan is busy....

Whoa, the "we wish him success in his future endeavors" form letter response to Mesure's departure was COLD.

Something went down...

Rachel Ames. Call Rachel Ames, Frank.

[quote] Something went down...

He told Snags she has a fat ass.

R471, or Mesure just wanted out.

He was blind-sided. His agent told him that his option was not going to be picked up.

How do you know that, R494?

Frankie wanted a blowjob from him and he said NO. End of story.

......

So Cuntmessa Dumbassatella from SON didn’t know about the recast? Dumb cunt!

Both are plausible:

The show pushed him out for hotter leading man material

The actor wants to leave the US like the rest of us would if we could

Have we heard from Cassandra James since the inauguration?

#MGHGA #bringbackingo

…I wouldn’t be surprised.

James Patrick Stuart will replace Charles Mesure at an upcoming fan event with F. Hughes & L. Wright

R485 😉

R490 👍

Mesure doesn't even want the money from the GH fan event side hustles. Interesting.

Whatever happened, it was not amicable.

Someone did mention at the end of last year that there would be another "high profile departure" at the beginning of the year. I wonder if Mesure is who they were referring to.

R504 The "rumor" is a certain someone, Maurice, wasn't thrilled about all the attention Mesure was getting, similarly to Adam J. Harrington. Not really trying to defend Wright but both her and Burton weren't exactly "threatened" by Mesure, who was actually a hit with fans, along with his budding romance with Carly.

Although, everyone who says that LW didn't want a relationship with Brennan, she didn't until the fan reaction began to warm up to them. She's wanted Carly with Jason for the longest, then when SB refused, she wanted Jagger, then Brennan as a last resort

[quote]a certain someone, Maurice, wasn't thrilled about all the attention Mesure was getting,

Carlo Rota, this too could happen to you! Don't get too comfortable.

Rick Hearst, this too has happened to you! Do what you have to do to stay, fawn over sputtering Mo, whatever it takes.

R507 Exactly. There's even quotes here over his desire to be "King."

Mo is the worst.

Mesure may not have been in shape like an athlete or a model, but he had a strong, masculine build and presence. His face was sexy in some poses and not sexy in others, IMHO. Overall, I liked his swagger. Chris made me moist in his all-too-brief days at Y&R, but that was what, ten years ago? I hope it's still true.

Clearly, Mo was threatened by Mesure's height, physique, charisma, masculinity, and acting ability -- all the things he lacks!

Breaking News

Maureen McCormick is nuMonica.

Chris McKenna said Erika Slezak sent him a note congratulating him on getting the role of Brennan.

Erika was talking to Frank and Frank told her Chris landed the role. My question is: why was Erika talking to Frank? Is there something in the works for her to drop by Port Charles? It's being suggested on X that Erika play Brennan's mother.

Chris is going to need to shed a few pounds. Understandable as the role came as a surprise and it all happened very fast and he was put straight to work. He's obviously a good actor and I'm glad he's not even attempting to have an accent.

Given the taping schedules, I assume Charles Mesure filmed his last scenes before the Christmas break while Chris McKenna filmed his first scenes in early January when they returned.

I'd lick Chris's shitter.

Miss Viki is coming to GH!!!!!!

R516. You mean, the Third Victoria!!!

Who is she going to be? The Third Lila?

I doubt Erika is coming to any show. She has some neurological issues that would make an appearance challenging for her.

My dear Frank contacted me and asked if I was busy. I saus "Not attall. Why?" And right then and there he offered me the recast role of Mary Mae Ward. I turned him down for obvious reasons...

Get these white bitches out of my face.

Maybe Erika could do a brief video appearance, chastising her son Brennan over Zoom for not calling her often enough.

I ❤️ Grant Putnam

She’s up on the poop deck!

If Viki Sleastack were to do an appearance on GH, let's hope it would be for something more important than a cameo as nuBrennan's mother.

She could play his mom as a wink and a nod to OLTL fans, r525. Vicky and Kevin reunited if just for moment.!

I don't do moments.

Not atall!

Kudos to the writer at TVLine who subtitled this article "Holy Mia Korf!"

If you know, you know.

Ooops, I meant "Joey" not "Kevin" at r526.

This show is the most cliquish group of people I’ve ever heard of. The sonny actor needs to go.

I was the pretty one.

If Slee does anything, it’ll be like whatJess Walton does. Skype in from home. Slee’s husband is in poor health and she has her own issues. She’s not gonna fly from CT to CA.

[R531] There are really good people there, but we focus on those who lack maturity. The journeyman actors do their job and don't pee on the carpet. Unfortunately they're the ones who get the shaft more often than not. It's Valentini who needs to be eliminated.

So now the idea is that Maurice got rid of Charles Mesure?!?!

Did Sonny and Brennan ever share any scenes together?

I liked Mesure's Brennan. As did others. But I don't think he was that popular. I don't think he was a threat to Maurice's throne.

Firing Valentini is about 10 years overdue.

Back in 2012, Richard Steinmetz played gangster Joe Scully, Jr.,

But about six months after he started, he was axed. I thought Steinmetz was doing a good job. Far better than Maurice. Of course, it doesn't take much to give a better performance than Mo.

Did Mo use his power to get Steinmetz fired?

As much as I loathe Mo, I don't think the Mesure situation is his doing.

If it was Mo's or even LW's doing, the statement from TPTB would have been glowing to deflect. The terse statement from TPTB indicates something happened IMO.

So, is Joey Buchanan-Brennan testing Josslyn's superspy skills?

No offense,, because I like the guy, but he didn't appear all that camera-ready. However, I understand some people like a few extra # on their men, so it probably didn't bother most people.

So 47 year-old Chris McKenna is playing Brenann, who went gone through WSB training with a young Anna Devane, played by 65 year-old actress Finola Hughes, and Valentin Cassadine, played by 56 year-old James Patrick Stuart. Listen, I'm not complaining -- I've wanted to see Chris McKenna back on soaps for years. Too bad on Y&R they didn't make him a top to Kevin's bottom -- they both looked like they wanted to get it on in every scene.

I believe Mesure when he tells the press that he realized the gig was no longer for him.

He's was probably fine working off and on the show for slightly above union minimum and free to look for other acting jobs, but now the show's put him into leading man story and certainly not bumping him up to leading man pay for a while. Plus a much more difficult shooting schedule.

The actors who have been doing for a while are used to the quick pace and are compensated for it. But we're seeing a lot of actors these days say no thanks.

McKenna looks a few years older than he is - he's not THAT much younger than Mesure.

R535 They shared scenes together over the holiday shows. Brennan was poised to become Sonny's next enemy.

R537 Actually Mo was excited when Richard Steinmetz first came aboard; was physically excited too, there's a scene where Mo had somewhat of an erection when Sonny confronted Scully in a warehouse. Those episodes, along with other classics, should still be available for purchase though resellers if anyone's interested.

R537 Another difference is that Steinmetz is older than Mo, not by too many years, however still older, unlike the other actors he's had issues with

R540 Right. He's a decent guy and since this was a spur of the moment decision, he wasn't exactly camera ready.

They need to recast the Richard Simmons role.

I think Chris McKenna will get camera ready pretty quick unlike Josh Kelly who took his sweet time getting camera ready after he landed in the pool.

Is Sidwell going to kill Jordan? No way he hasn't looked into her and discovered she was Police Chief, WSB and Anna's cohort.

I have always adored Richard Steinmetz

Steinmetz was hot back in the day.

[quote] there's a scene where Mo had somewhat of an erection when Sonny confronted Scully in a warehouse.

Must have been before Mo's antipsych meds killed his boners.

Mo, LW, Cameron, Finola, Tanisha, Donnell dancing their way on stage for Jennifer Hudson Show.

Mo looks ridiculous.

If Mo liked working with Steinmetz, who was clearly doing a good job with the part, why did GH drop the Joe Scully storyline after just a few months and fire Steinmetz?

They even had Scully bedding Tracy, thus keeping with her history of falling for mobsters and bad boys.

R554. God, LW makes me sick.

I'm surprised LW's ass didn't cause an earthquake

R550 Anything's possible with Frank

R551 Great actor

R552 Absolutely

R553 😆😆

I liked Chris on OLTL and he’s grown up to be a sexy masculine boyish charming man….but as a recast? Could have seen him as a recast Steven Webber maybe not sure as Brennan.

R555 Frank and Ron, particularly Ron, were shifting away from the mob ties connected to Sonny as the main focus, Scully, then eventually Trey, Connie and Johnny were all written out as well, in favor of Julian, Ava, Duke, as more of an homage to old school GH, which Ron admired in his youth. The mob was also supposed to be more of a backdrop, which Maurice saw as Ron's way of pushing Sonny to the background. Steve quit to join Y&R while Lindsey Morgan's Kristina was also written out, though that had more to do with the actress not being able to handle the rigors of daytime, yet the mob revolving around Sonny was what Ron tried to steer away from, in favor of a more ensemble show. Richard probably would've irked Mo's nerves had he worked there long enough, however; usually actors who are indifferent to him (NAC) or obviously more popular amongst cast members (Ted King) exacerbate his anxiety.

I'm frigging tired of hearing about his anxiety. His anxiety is his protective umbrella that shields him from repercussions for his bad behavior and he knows it. He's an egomaniac long past his expiration date.

[quote]yet the mob revolving around Sonny was what Ron tried to steer away from, in favor of a more ensemble show.

That was one thing that Ron understood correctly. His first year at HW, when Sonny was not the center of the show, was exciting and compelling.

It made me realize I don't mind Sonny when he's just one of the many players in the ensemble. What I do object to is Sonny being the center of the show and all things revolving around his amoral character who never pays for his heinous crimes.

R538, correct.

I think the guy just wanted out. it's A LOT of dialogue to memorize and soaps don't pay what they used to.

Chris is definitely going to have to drop a few lbs.

I don't get the hold Maurice has on this show. Even Ron Moss was told 'ok. we've got to bring on some younger blood.'

Still, Thorsten has never been Ridge. I don't care how many Emmys he is given.

Thorsten is Hobo Ridge. Looks like he slept in a tent under a bridge and has the same aversion to shampoo that GH's Hobo Lucky has.

Tracy looked lovely with her dangling tendril today.

By far, Mo got the loudest applause on the Jennifer Hudson show. The fans LOVE him!!!!

A lot of shows are just stuck in a rut and convinced they won't survive without their stalwarts.

Y&R has been doing variations on the Victor/Nikki/Jack thing for almost 40 years. Nearly 30 now with Sonny and Carly. They just won't let others take center stage for a while.

New thread for when this one is done

[quote] God, LW makes me sick

You're prejudiced! YOU'RE A FAT-JELLO-ASSITE!

R572 Practically everyone seems to be tired of hearing about it, at this point; you're absolutely right though, he uses it to his advantage.

R572 was meant for R563

R564 Agreed. Many fans were initially happy overall with Ron's ideas, especially from when he first began until early 2015, saying it felt nostalgic. Maurice & Tony G. were the main ones who had a problem with his writing and spearheaded the mutiny. Sonny vs. Michael was an interesting story until Maurice voiced his displeasure.

R564 Interestingly enough, both Ron and Patrick Mulcahey felt Sonny should pay for his crimes, either in prison or amongst the townspeople, not the lovable mobster angle that's preferred by Mo.

R568 They do, especially many older women and even older men too who were fans of the Guza years.

R569 Without a doubt. The shows are primarily focused on retaining their old audience, especially GH. Sonny and Carly are essentially Victor and Nikki.

R570 Thanks

[quote] Sonny and Carly are essentially Victor and Nikki.

scary to contemplate

[quote] Many fans were initially happy overall with Ron's ideas, especially from when he first began until early 2015, saying it felt nostalgic.

Same at DAYS. He's good at reorganizing and shining up the work of others. It's seldom very deep or has a lot of context, but he knows how to play the greatest hits.

It's when he has to generate substantial story of his own that he falls into his usual patterns - lots of crazy women, dual personalities, and all the over the top stuff. Poor DAYS is dealing with a soap within a soap story that should have lasted a few weeks and is going on now for several months. He really does not know how to write a cohesive show. He'd probably be great if he only had a few characters to write for at a time.

The actress who plays Nikki on Y&R is 68 years old and doesn't dress frumpy like Snarly.

But Victor = Sonny.

Always has to win.

It seems Valentini and Colleen are mutually dismissive. I've heard she believes GH is a toxic environment (go figure). How is it he considers her untalented when he hangs on to so many untalented actresses for years. Ms Zeman, may she rest in peace, couldn't act her way out of a paper bag. smh. Frank needs to go be toxic at home all by himself. ATWT producers so much better

CZ is right. And she's probably heard it from others.

Certainly enough of her ATWT colleagues have worked there or have experiences there at GH. Even some fans know how toxic it is there.

Ugh, Lucky.

Borrrrrinnnngggggg

CZP should talk. She was fucking Pinter while married to someone else. And Pinter was also married. The hussy!

hiccup

gurl bye

REMEMBER

new thread here

Ten comments left.

One for every inch of Chad's DoD

Bless Leslie for having to deal with Mo.

Is McKenna going to turn out to be another Adam Harrington? Handsome guy in a suit with no personality or charisma?

He's making me regret my criticism of Mesure.

McKenna had a really hot, dirty edge on YR. Hope he can bring that to GH.

SNARL!

lol!

One last time.....new thread here

And Tracy......

It's STILL my house!

and

let's close this out