DOGE takes aim at the penny
Elon Musk's Department of Government Efficiency is targeting one of the federal government's most notorious examples of waste: the penny. Getting rid of the penny would test whether DOGE can eliminate a piece of government inefficiency that has survived decades of reform attempts.
On Tuesday, DOGE's account on X highlighted the coin's mounting costs: In fiscal year 2023, taxpayers spent more than $179 million producing over 4.5 billion pennies, with each coin costing more than three cents to make.
Despite bipartisan recognition of the penny's costs since at least the 1970s, efforts to phase out or reform the coin have repeatedly stalled in Congress, making it an ideal target for DOGE's efficiency campaign.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 49 | May 22, 2025 10:41 PM
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Wow I'd always thought pennies came from fountains. This Doh-jee job sure is great.
by Anonymous | reply 1 | January 22, 2025 5:58 PM
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Good. Here's the one thing I agree with with this administration. Now I feel gross and dirty,
Pennies are stupid. Having things cost $2.03 or whatever is just a waste of time and energy when you are paying cash.
As John Waters once said, "Pennies are only good for insulting waiters." (Or something to that effect)
by Anonymous | reply 2 | January 22, 2025 6:06 PM
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We left pennies behind years ago
by Anonymous | reply 3 | January 22, 2025 6:09 PM
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Offering me a nickel for my thoughts is way too expensive.
by Anonymous | reply 4 | January 22, 2025 6:15 PM
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If this is their starting place, we’re going to see a lot of trivial stuff from this.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | January 22, 2025 6:25 PM
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What game-changing insight! So much for the high IQs on this committee.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | January 22, 2025 10:06 PM
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Ramaswamy does remind you of a penny, right?
Now go after the African-American white buffalo and the nickel.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | January 22, 2025 10:42 PM
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[quote]In fiscal year 2023, taxpayers spent more than $179 million producing over 4.5 billion pennies, with each coin costing more than three cents to make.
That's less than 1/2000th of Elon's net worth.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | January 22, 2025 10:45 PM
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I throw pennies in the trash. It’s not worth holding on to them.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | January 22, 2025 10:47 PM
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Yes let’s get rid of the penny. This is a drop in the bucket of the federal budget
by Anonymous | reply 10 | January 22, 2025 10:47 PM
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I would agree if they round everything DOWN to the nickel.
by Anonymous | reply 11 | January 22, 2025 10:52 PM
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Is it weird the department is Department Of Government Efficiency or DOGE while there is crypto called DOGE meanwhile Trump and Elon push crypto?
by Anonymous | reply 13 | January 23, 2025 12:01 AM
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[quote] In fiscal year 2023, taxpayers spent more than $179 million producing over 4.5 billion pennies.
This is also probably No. 179,000,000,000 down on the list of things that I will impact my life in a positive way.
by Anonymous | reply 15 | January 23, 2025 12:22 AM
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Canada did it over 10 years ago. Retailers need to round up or down. It’s not rocket science.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | January 23, 2025 12:26 AM
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[quote] Is it weird the department is Department Of Government Efficiency or DOGE while there is crypto called DOGE meanwhile Trump and Elon push crypto?
Have you been in a coma since November?
by Anonymous | reply 17 | January 23, 2025 12:32 AM
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Get rid of all cash. What's the point of it when all financial transactions have been completely computerized? And get rid of checks as well. They are relics of the past.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | January 23, 2025 12:38 AM
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Retailers are probably responsible for the delay in getting rid of pennies. Everyone seems to want to price things at 3.99, because that seems psychologically cheaper than $4.
by Anonymous | reply 20 | January 23, 2025 1:23 AM
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How was the United States ever able to function without a Department of Government Efficiency and geniuses like Elon Musk? This is what the country needs to be focused on right now.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | January 23, 2025 1:29 AM
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Big 🤔 thinkers deserve the big bucks 🤡 🎪
by Anonymous | reply 23 | January 23, 2025 1:37 AM
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Let's say we get rid of the penny. There are counties here that charge 6% or 7% sales tax. How is the county government going to collect that money? Who wants to raise sales taxes?
by Anonymous | reply 24 | January 23, 2025 1:42 AM
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Now U.S businesses will charge more for everything. They'll round everything UP in price
by Anonymous | reply 25 | January 23, 2025 4:41 AM
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[quote]This is also probably No. 179,000,000,000 down on the list of things that I will impact my life in a positive way.
The journey of a thousand miles (or even 179,000,000,000 miles) begins with a single step. I think the DOGE spending cut initiative is not going to be derailed by commentary about the initial cuts being small.
If the government can't even cut small spending, how could it cut large spending, which would be much harder to get agreement on?
by Anonymous | reply 26 | January 23, 2025 5:27 AM
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Getting rid of the penny is a bold move. What’s next..,the nickel.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | January 23, 2025 8:04 AM
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I’ll tell you what brilliance in advertising is: 99 cents. Someone thought of that.
by Anonymous | reply 28 | January 23, 2025 8:09 AM
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It’s just like FDR’s first 100 days. Except full of stupid shit instead of reforms that helped suffering Americans.
by Anonymous | reply 29 | January 23, 2025 8:21 AM
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r18 going cashless hurts the poor, unsurprisingly.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 30 | January 24, 2025 3:49 PM
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I’ve lived in a country that had a chronic small change problem. Places like supermarkets would deliberately price items in odd numbers and then round up when you got to the cash register. You think it’s just a couple cents? Imagine how much they were raking in, day after day.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | January 24, 2025 3:58 PM
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Germany, r31?
I remember their cashiers being militant about paying with exact change.
by Anonymous | reply 32 | January 24, 2025 4:03 PM
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Not Germany but I remember a coin shortage in Italy pre euro. They’d give you a piece of candy. Of course you couldn’t pay with pieces of candy.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | January 25, 2025 10:37 AM
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Forcing everything to be rounded up to the next nearest even number would actually have an unintended (intended) beneficiary: the government. The penny is largely kept alive by taxes rates on consumer goods.
Given the migration of so much of commerce to a cashless society, it’s probably not necessary. I only carry cash when I go on vacation for tipping and when I need to up lottery tickets. Nobody carries cash anymore.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | January 25, 2025 2:08 PM
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[quote] The journey of a thousand miles (or even 179,000,000,000 miles) begins with a single step. I think the DOGE spending cut initiative is not going to be derailed by commentary about the initial cuts being small. If the government can't even cut small spending, how could it cut large spending, which would be much harder to get agreement on?
The DOGE will fail because it is a fraud. There is no way to cut government spending without touching social security, Medicare, defence, and interest on the national debt. Fiscally, the penny issue is a huge joke.
by Anonymous | reply 35 | January 25, 2025 2:29 PM
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R24, I can’t tell if you’re trolling or if you actually were born without a brain in your head.
by Anonymous | reply 37 | January 25, 2025 8:51 PM
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More meaningless distraction from a corrupt asshole's adminisration.
by Anonymous | reply 38 | January 25, 2025 8:58 PM
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Yeah, R38, and at least 70% of Americans will fall for it.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | January 25, 2025 9:11 PM
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Dreamy Andrew Yang vocally advocated for this a few years ago.
by Anonymous | reply 41 | January 26, 2025 3:34 AM
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This is an obvious move that should have been done decades ago - but there were always some asshole groups against it.
by Anonymous | reply 42 | February 10, 2025 9:05 PM
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There is no way to cut government spending without touching social security, Medicare, defence, and interest on the national debt. Fiscally, the penny issue is a huge joke.
You are so right. Just like there were never going to be mass deportation because of all the red tape involved. Even with Noem in her cowboy cosplay all they can do is terrify people. Even destroying US soft power and other beaucracies will not give them the $ to finance all their tax cuts for the rich.
by Anonymous | reply 43 | February 10, 2025 9:08 PM
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Here is a Time article from 1977 (!) about getting rid of the penny.
[quote]Any number of maxims are in trouble if economists at the Research Triangle Institute, a North Carolina think tank, have their way. The institute, commissioned by the Bureau of the Mint to analyze U.S. coin needs, wants the Government to stop producing the penny by 1980, along with reducing the size of the dollar coin and dropping the half-dollar.
The penny has been a zombie for many decades. Time to kill it for good.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 44 | February 10, 2025 9:12 PM
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Fight back! Use pennies in all government transactions.
by Anonymous | reply 45 | February 10, 2025 9:15 PM
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R42, how do you expect to make change without pennies? Are you one of those dopes who wants a paperless society until the power shuts down? You want us all to be beholden to credit card companies?
by Anonymous | reply 46 | February 10, 2025 9:16 PM
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We haven't had any coins under 10c for about 20 years.
by Anonymous | reply 47 | February 10, 2025 9:25 PM
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@realDonaldTrump
For far too long the United States has minted pennies which literally cost us more than 2 cents. This is so wasteful! I have instructed my Secretary of the US Treasury to stop producing new pennies. Let's rip the waste out of our great nations budget, even if it's a penny at a time.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 48 | February 10, 2025 10:29 PM
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Treasury Department to phase out the penny after Trump says the coin no longer makes 'cents':
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 49 | May 22, 2025 10:41 PM
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