Instagay gay couple Max and Andres announce their split after their house burns down

WHEN WILL THE TEARS STOP?!?!?!

[quote] The fire that took our home accelerated this decision by giving us clarity and simplicity.

They found an upside to homelessness.

Jeez

Andres Instagram story showing the three bags as all he has left is pretty sad.

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R4 With the upcoming divorce, he actually has 1 1/2 bags.

Which one is husband material? I need one.

Yikes!!

"This tragedy is serving as a catalyst for a clean break".

That's actually pretty well said. No fight about possession.

Who?

Tbh I think they were already broken up, but just waiting to announce it and this was as good a time as any.

Max is 36, not too old to start over.

The house was a very cute 1950s rancher

R11, whether that's true or not, this only goes to reinforce the superficiality of L.A. gays. They're together nine years, but then opt to split THREE DAYS after losing their house in a fire? This is simply not how normal people function, but OTOH "normies" don't post constant thirst traps and constant "proof" that "our love shall conquer all."

At this point it should be zero surprise that a couple that "looks great" on Instagram has epic drama IRL.

I was not a follower but that was pretty much my take, r15. Presenting a fake image to the world because they were addicted to the attention and the resulting money. Had there been discussions of trouble in the relationship or does this news come as a surprise to their “fans?’

When Max posted a few days ago that this was the worst week of his life, I suspected that it was more than the house burning down. I feel badly for them; after the death of Andres' mother and then the failed adoption, losing everything would break any relationship, and I'm sure there is much more that they don't share on SM.

Since I don't post on Instrgram, and suspecting that one or both either peruses DL or has a Google alert set up, I'll express condolences and best wishes here.

So that glorified shack @R13/R14 was valued at 2 or 3 million before the fires, and considered a "steal" in LA real estate parlance???

Is this your first time exploring California real estate r18? It is expensive as fuck to buy property.

Welcome to the housing crisis.

No, R19. As a matter of fact, I learned about the CA real estate game back in 1964 when my uncle explained to my father that he paid $48K for his Pacific Palisades house purchased new in 1956, then watched it double, triple and quadruple in value in the intervening years so he could put it up for sale and buy a bigger, better house off Mulholland Drive for $250K with little out of pocket cash and little to no increase in his monthly house payment. My uncle continued to play this game very successfully until he was well into his late 70s and bought his final house in Thousand Oaks in 1999, again with little to no out of pocket cash outlays and the same mortgage payment he had in 1956.

Show me the most beautiful woman in the world, and I'll show you a guy who's tired of fucking her.

Max and Andres have always had an non-monogamous relationship r21. They didn't have to worry about getting tired of fuckin each other.

It seems like a case where they were staying together for the kid. When that didn't work out, and then the house burned down, realized a perfect opportunity to call it quits.

At least they weren’t quite as annoying as their Instagay couple friends, Mike Del Moro and Alec something or other. The redhead is insufferable. .

It sounds like that they were like many couples who would have broken up but couldn't afford to since they were financially tied together with the house.

But how many of those couples are monetizing their fake happiness?

Sooooo. Thank god for the fire?

Are they more annoying than Taylor Phillips and his 4-eyed nerd husband R23?

This Twitter thread is hating hard on them.

I'm in the market for another soul-mate!

OMFG, surely no one asked for this pablum?

After nine years together we’ve decided to separate. The fire that took our home accelerated this decision by giving us clarity and simplicity. We were already beginning to explore different paths- this tragedy is serving as a catalyst for a clean break.

It’s time to start again, as individuals.

Our time together wasn’t wasted. We still love each other fully, deeply, and unconditionally. That love doesn’t end; it evolves.

We are part ways with respect and gratitude, carrying forward all that we’ve learned.

I‘d be happy to provide Max with shelter, food, and Speedos.

They were plasticly hot but there wasn't much heat between them.

Idk, Max and Andres first met on grindr r32. Probably before they knew anything else about each other they knew they had some good sex.

“Fully, deeply and unconditionally”. Oh my aching sides.

I can see it, the hot sex at first, but in most of their pics over the years they don't have much of a connection. They are so posey and Blue Steel. Are they lowish IQ? On the spectrum? Dead affect.

[quote]So that glorified shack @R13/R14 was valued at 2 or 3 million before the fires, and considered a "steal" in LA real estate parlance???

It's the Palisades, dollface. $5 mil easy even for a teardown on a postage stamp. Or at least it was that way.

[quote]fully, deeply and unconditionally

translation: we don't get each other hard anymore

Despite my snark, I know it must be devastating to lose your home. They must have been splitsville for sometime because trauma would just as easily create new bonds. Not break them.

They should move into my home. I always need expert PR advice and these two could lift my brand.

R27, all three couples hung out together when they were based in NYC and continued to move in the same circles. Each couple, a preening Instagay pair. In terms of smug and annoyance levels, I’d say place Max and Andrea at the lower end (low end comparatively), then Taylor and Jeff in the middle, and Mike and Alec and their YouTube baby quest channel as the most annoying.

So, if there house hadn't burned down, they would have gone on pretending they're a happy couple, like so many other miserable straight and gay couples.

Why is being single considered such a liability and a horrible fate by so many desperately unhappy, coupled people?

I've been single and I've been coupled. They are about equal in advantages and disadvantages. Being in a used up passionless couple isn't all bad. There are many upsides to the companionship.

One time I broke up from a long term relation then spent a decade with fuckbuddies, and some of them for a decade! The hottest sex for the longest time were fuckbuddies I knew the least about and had no social contact with, outside of sex and some chats afterwards. I look back fondly on those men and it's kind of sad also that I never really knew them. It's not like they will show up to comfort me when I'm old or sick. But man, they did everything to send me to the moon, and I to them, too.

They are nauseating. So fake.

An article about their failed adoption from last year.

Who are these homosexuals?

Instagay gay couple? How repetitive.

I was waiting for someone to point out that mistake r46.

ATM machine.

Their pronouns are ME/ME/ME.... Fuckable and clueless isn't as adorable at their age. Time to grow up and get a real job...

[quote]My uncle continued to play this game very successfully until he was well into his late 70s and bought his final house in Thousand Oaks in 1999, again with little to no out of pocket cash outlays and the same mortgage payment he had in 1956.

I understand the trading up, "the game," R20, but don't understand the chain of transactions only to end up with a mortgage, however modest, in one's late 70s.

It just shows how phony people are on social media. Portraying happy lives and then announce they’re breaking up a week after their “so in love” posts.

The adoption journey article is strange - did they just find some random woman who was going to give the baby to them? No social workers, agencies, following any process? Sounds like they didn't think it through

Uh -Oh.

They sit down at noon on Mondays for a late breakfast? They must have a lot of money, not having jobs that keep them from their Monday late breakfasts at noon-ish.

Were they porn stars?

What does Andes do for a job? He is very handsome.

I think Max is better looking but I also believe Andres’ tattoos detract.

I’ve been married (male/male) 13 years and it’s a loving and happy married life on balance, but it is not always easy. The love remains deep and/but there’s so much day to day compromising, mundanity, living with each other’s flaws and slow motion aging processes, and occasional conflict. Ultimately you have to keep on quietly committing over and over to love this person, to care about him right up alongside caring about yourself, and to admire him as is. Because it’s easy to claim “the chemistry isn’t what it was, back in our early years…” because of course not, how can it be.

I cannot imagine maintaining a healthy and happy marriage in private while being social-media influencers. If one or both of you gets addicted to presenting an idealized portrayal of your life, and addicted to those Likes and Comments and DMs from fawning strangers all the time.

p.s. forget where I saw it but apparently a very large % of couples who lose their home and possessions to natural disasters, divorce/break up within 5 years. It’s just such a raw and confusing and harrowing experience to go through and it inevitably involves mental health challenges on top of trying to rebuild your life materially from total loss… sometimes extreme.

These two wouldn’t be the first childless couple to mistakenly think adopting a child would improve their weakening relationship. It seems the loss of their home was the death blow to what was already faltering after the adoption attempt failed. And in this case, probably better for the infant to have stayed with bio family.

It's easier to make up a story when no one else is involved R52. I don't believe any of it.

The "podcast" above is a train wreck. Is that the secret to their popularity as social media personalities? People paid attention because they couldn't look away from the shocking banality, narcissism, and mumbo jumbo bullshit, from 2 cute men?

I get the impression most of these "couples" are merely performing. Were they a real couple or just together because they are photogenic and could amass followers? Losing the set of the show could certainly lead to cancellation.

[quote]The adoption journey article is strange - did they just find some random woman who was going to give the baby to them? No social workers, agencies, following any process? Sounds like they didn't think it through

[quote]It's easier to make up a story when no one else is involved [R52]. I don't believe any of it.

And now you know why a couple that lives their lives on social media face constant difficulties, and, I suspect, what played a big part in their breakup.

No, they didn't just find a random woman. They used an agency that they carefully selected for their honesty, track record, and of course, willingness to work with gay couples. It was expensive and time consuming. There were extensive background checks, home visits., and qualifications met, a process that they reported took years to complete. It was an intentional process that they had to deeply commit to completing, and they did.

Only then were they shown to prospective mothers as one viable choice, and when the mother felt they were a match, they then stepped in to cover the mother's expenses, for months, up to an including her hospital stay due to premature birth. They were present during the birth; they even took pictures of Andres cutting the umbilical cord... only to have the mother's relatives accuse the mother of selling the baby and do everything they could to prevent the adoption to proceed. The mother ultimately backed out of the agreement — which was within her rights and completely appropriate, but heartbreaking.

So, no, it wasn't a fabricated story, and it was not some willy-nilly social media storytime adventure.

I'm not some big time Max and Andres fan boy; but as an eldergay who has been there and fought for our rights, I had a keen interest in their process (and I also follow several other gay men who have adopted children, specifically on Instagram, but elsewhere as well). It's disingenuous to criticize gay men who are, for better or worse, on the front lines of advancing our stories and rights in the public sphere, particularly when the facts as I have spelled them out here are widely available in entertaining format to explain the adoption process and the difficulties gay men face trying to live their lives.

I love people asking what they do. They are "social media influencers", that is the job.

It's tough being pretty.

Sorry about their house, truly, but it must be a shock to the system to have to endure in real life something that pretty doesn't make easy for you.

(Max's family all think he's an asshole. So there's that. Pretty doesn't guarantee ALL relationships.)

People asking about the money and their jobs are missing that they had 1.5 million followers between them. Posting on Instagram about themselves is their job.

If nothing else, the dissolution proves to us that the concept of the “open” relationship doesn’t work.

R65, how do you know what a max’s family members think about him? Not disputing just generally curious as to whether you know him or them personally or have seen evidence of this online.

I'm sorry that YOUR open relationship lead to YOUR relationship ending, r67. Try not to project so much. Relationships end for a million different reasons.

R57, I think Andres is better looking from all angles. But I have soft spot for Latin men. The tattoo is pretty tasteful as these things go.

That's silly R67 They lasted 9 years together a lot of relationships will end at some point, whether monogamous or open.

It's amusing how angry the concept of open relations makes some people. No one is forcing you to do it.

I was looking forward to following that baby's adventures going to circuit parties, gay ski weeks and festivals while his parents showed him or her off wearing nothing but speedos.

Oh come on R61, what did you expect? A seminar on Søren Kierkegaard? Not that Andres comes across as a particularly bright bulb…

R68

I'm friends with a close family member of his.

Oh, c’mon, R15. Had the fire not happened, the relationship would have entailed 2-3 more years of accusations, nasty fights, recriminations, and bitter tears.

They were DONE. The fire made it clear, so good for both of them for finally viewing this plainly, and making the healthiest decision possible under the circumstances.

They’re both hot, so each one will bounce back quickly and be just fine, as long as neither fall into the meth scene due to the trauma of the fire & break up.

Good luck to both, genuinely. 🙏🏽

[quote]failed adoption

Which one quoted this Mommie Dearest scene?

[quote]Obviously you don't understand. What you're really doing is denying one of your children the opportunity to live a wonderful and advantaged life! How sad that is. Good afternoon.

Andres has a job in the military.

Max is just an Instawhore.

[quote] This is simply not how normal people function, but OTOH "normies" don't post constant thirst traps and constant "proof" that "our love shall conquer all."

EXACTLY!

I love how just five weeks ago, they posted this picture of perfect relationship bliss, as if they were the happiest couple in the world.

And now? Yeah, not so much.

Vapid whores.

If you can break apart after 9 years together, without even one tear shed, you know that it was an empty relationship to begin with.

Andres left that job years ago r77 and became a full time instawhore like Max.

I slept through my Kierkegaard lectures at Cornell so CERTAINLY do not look for my popular entertainments to beat that dead horse. But there must be something, anything, positive that 1.5 million followers saw in them beyond the plastic hotness. Something between Kierkegaard and vapid attention seeking.

Otherwise, my theory that everyone was rubbernecking a rolling train wreck, for years, is true and grim.

Shall we blame Paris Hilton and Kim Kardashian?

Des instawhoring pay so much tut you can afford a house in the Palisades? Or do you have to throw some real whoring in?

[quote] We still love each other fully, deeply, and unconditionally.

What?? “Unconditionally”?

Clearly it was conditional on something, hence the breakup.

Tiresome low-end faggotry. Taylor and “womanly” Jeff will certainly be next.

Oh, it's that Max. Cute, but always seemed "off" and had zero charisma. And I never believed his relationship with Andres was anything more than an Instagram fairy tale.

I agree with the person that said this is not how normies react to a situation like this. Thank goodness they didn't become dads. Sounds mean to say, but you know I'm right.

Not mean, cruel.

Muriel, can we close this thread now?

Seriously, r85? What's your deal? Are you Max?

These instagays lack flavah!

[quote]And I never believed his relationship with Andres was anything more than an Instagram fairy tale.

The single most defining characteristic of a fairy tale is the Happily Ever After ending.

Where do instagays go once they hit 40?

R78 you can tell from the body language that Andres is not fully comfortable with that Q&A session. Makes him more relatable, actually.

I think Max does have charisma. When he first appeared on the scene, he was very cute and endearing. And he is well spoken. But he would be more attractive if there were a little mystery left, like with all instagays.

[quote]I love how just five weeks ago, they posted this picture of perfect relationship bliss, as if they were the happiest couple in the world.

R78, photos, posed or not, are of an instant. The truth is of that moment. Or is it? A candid group photo might show you enraptured in someone's story (or is it your own thoughts?) so that any stranger might think you were swooning over a person you genuinely dislike. A posed selfie with a partner is always going to have a fair share of artifice to it. How could it not?

[quote]If you can break apart after 9 years together, without even one tear shed, you know that it was an empty relationship to begin with.

If you see a photo posted by Instagram personalities whose principal content is not a love of container gardening or restoring an old stone house, but who instead are selling nothing but themselves, beware. All may not be exactly as presented 100% of the time.

Their day job of being IG personalities might steer the truth now and again.

And if they were photographed seemingly happy 5 weeks before their house burnt to the ground, they wouldn't be the first couple either to have put on a convincing front or to have had their partnership unravel in 5 weeks time.

I don't have any idea of who these two people are outside of this thread, but some of you are a little invested in their success or their failure.

These are some low-end gays.

Does anyone think that their tearful reconciliation and dramatic reunion will eventually kickstart another chapter, much to the delight of their fans?

R80, no Cornell lectures in my personal corner of the world, but having spent about a week studying Kierkegaard and his work many moons ago, I was elated to not have accrued student debt on that one.

[quote]But he would be more attractive if there were a little mystery left, like with all instagays.

We still haven't seen his dick.

Stop shading SK. He's the father of Existentialism and a great philosopher and stylist.

Have we seen SK’s dick?

Who gets the dog?

Perhaps one of them forgot to pay last month's fire insurance premium...

I wonder what their former fucktoy Andrew Neighbors thinks of this turn of events.

[quote] I wonder what their former fucktoy Andrew Neighbors thinks of this turn of events.

This whore?

Doesn't he do gay porn?

there was a great short clip of AN getting plugged that circulated on the DL a while ago

BIG 'ol bottom

R102's link made my virus software go to defcon 2.

Max or Andrés was fucking AN, r103?