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Suspected Las Vegas Cybertruck Bomber Was a ‘Big’ Trump Supporter

The man suspected of being behind Tesla Cybertruck explosion in Las Vegas was a “big” supporter of Donald Trump and voted for him in November, a senior law enforcement official tells the Daily Beast.

That revelation came from an interview between Matthew Livelsberger’s loved ones and investigators, the source said. His family added that they believed the 37-year-old Green Beret, who died in Wednesday’s blast outside Trump International Hotel, had Republican leanings.

The revelation tracks with old Facebook comments and what Livelsberger’s uncle, Dean, told The Independent about his nephew’s politics on Thursday.

“He loved Trump, and he was always a very, very patriotic soldier, a patriotic American,” Dean said. “It’s one of the reasons he was in Special Forces for so many years.”

Records in El Paso County, Colo., indicate that he registered in 2020 with the No Labels party, which supports centrist “commonsense” candidates, the Las Vegas Review-Journal reported.

Much remains unknown about what allegedly drove Livelsberger to rent a Cybertruck in his hometown of Colorado Springs and drive it to Trump’s Las Vegas property.

The truck was filled with explosives and, perhaps miraculously, only injured seven when it burst into flames just steps from the hotel’s front lobby. Livelsberger was the only fatality in the blast.

Livelsberger was a highly trained Special Operations soldier, multiple reports revealed Thursday. He was stationed in Germany, but was back stateside on approved leave.

He enlisted in the U.S. Army when he was still a teenager and was just one year away from receiving his full military benefits, having served 19 years.

CNN’s John Miller, the network’s chief law enforcement and intelligence analyst, gave telling insight into the blast suspect on Thursday. He told viewers the suspect was “highly trained in communications and electronic measures for bomb detections and intelligence operations.”

Miller noted that there remains no “clear motive” for the explosion, which some have speculated was meant to be a political statement against Trump.

That theory emerged largely because of the explosion’s symbolics. The vehicle used, a Cybertruck, is Tesla owner Elon Musk’s crown jewel of a vehicle. Musk has been a top Trump ally since the summer, making the explosion’s location—at the Trump property nearest to Livelsberger’s hometown—all the more suspicious.

Miller theorized that the Cybertruck’s driver wanted to make sure that his charred vehicle would appear in close proximity to the massive “TRUMP” signage at the front of the hotel.

“Is he saying it’s 7 something in the morning and there’s not a lot of people here, I’m going to come back in an hour and see if there’s a bigger crowd,” Miller said. “Or is he doing his reconnaissance as a military operator would, which is, who stops you where, where am I going to place this, so the Elon Musk vehicle is going to be right under the Trump sign.

“We don’t know the symbolism that they were going for in this attack was, but they are looking at all of that.”

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by Anonymousreply 52January 4, 2025 4:00 PM

This is so fucking weird.

The 1st Trump assassination attempt in PA was a Trump supporter.

The 2nd Trump assassination attempt on the golf course was also a Trump supporter.

And now this guy who put a car bomb in a Musk vehicle in from of a Trump building was ALSO a Trump supporter.

I can't make sense of it.

If you love Trump so much, why are you trying to kill him? Lol.

by Anonymousreply 1January 2, 2025 8:05 PM

Look forward to this story being told…

by Anonymousreply 2January 2, 2025 8:10 PM

My guess?

All three are Manchurian Candidates programmed by Peter Thiel to get rid of Trump, so that the Couch Fucker Vance can be President.

But the dumb fucks don't realize that they have to wait until AFTER the inauguration!

by Anonymousreply 3January 2, 2025 8:13 PM

He was trying to incite the imposition of martial law by his beloved incoming President. And he was willing to sacrifice himself to accomplish it.

It could explain R1's point.

by Anonymousreply 4January 2, 2025 8:21 PM

R1 - He probably felt betrayed by Trump's H1-B reversal under Musk's influence. I predicted it on tge other thread before his MAGAt past was known.

by Anonymousreply 5January 2, 2025 8:23 PM

Another sicko maggat.

by Anonymousreply 6January 2, 2025 8:26 PM

Trump attracts total nutcases. I don't know why anyone is surprised when the nuts crack

by Anonymousreply 7January 2, 2025 8:28 PM

This reminds me of the scene in The Omen when the nanny jumps out a window screaming "it's all for you Damian!" Now, if other Trump supporters like RFK Jr. would just follow this guy's lead...

by Anonymousreply 8January 2, 2025 11:25 PM

[quote]Trump attracts total nutcases. I don't know why anyone is surprised when the nuts crack

Yeah. The New Orleans guy was said to really want to kill his friends and family, but he didn't think his "point" would be made if he did that.

by Anonymousreply 9January 2, 2025 11:27 PM

But the New Orleans mass murderer was a Isis-supporter, and not a Trump supporter R9.

You seem to be confusing the two.

by Anonymousreply 10January 3, 2025 12:34 AM

Major pussyhound, big Trump supporter.

by Anonymousreply 11January 3, 2025 12:46 AM

[quote]If you love Trump so much, why are you trying to kill him?

Hell hath no fury like a Trumper scorned. Either could've gone postal after he did something that sickens them, e.g. agreeing to let "rich illegals" in under the H-1B program or hiring Russian asset Tulsi Gabbard as DNI.

If so, I'm guessing this is far from the last instance of assault-via-rented-EV.

by Anonymousreply 12January 3, 2025 12:57 AM

These idiots defy logic.

by Anonymousreply 13January 3, 2025 1:05 AM

I think something bigger is happening and a lot of people are finally waking up to the Trump lies and are now believing even more outrageous shit like believing Trump is really an AOC type liberal, to put it bluntly you can't reason with crazy and they will continue to say and due unreasonable things until the end of time.

by Anonymousreply 14January 3, 2025 1:21 AM

R1 A better term is disgruntled Trump supporters.

by Anonymousreply 15January 3, 2025 1:35 AM

[quote]the New Orleans mass murderer was a Isis-supporter, and not a Trump supporter

He was also in the military and the only thing to come out so far is that they found an ISIS flag in his truck. It's being reported that the two of them worked at the same base (Colorado Springs iirc, which would make them air/space force). They also both rented from the same car rental place. The links are building between these two seemingly random incidents.

I think there's more going on here than we know, as well. The second assassination attempt on Trump's golf course was a nutjob who has been memory-holed, and Thomas Crooks in the first is looking more and more suspicious as no details emerge (as I pointed out to hubby, we know more about Luigi than Crooks, and that's no mistake); now we have two military-trained Trump supporters that snapped. The MAGAts believe that both assassins were Democratic plants, and Trump railed today about "our wide open borders" despite the fact that both were American citizens and serve(d) in the military, clearly not immigrants. It's almost — but not quite — like Trump is trying to rile up his supporters.

by Anonymousreply 16January 3, 2025 1:45 AM

All the Elon pro H1B stuff is too recent for anyone to have registered how it may have impacted this guy. The first Trump shooter IMO is a MAGA who flipped out when he discovered Trump’s deep Epstein ties and pedo behavior. A lot of these nuts are prone to turn on Trump or other MAGA figures in a snap. It makes complete sense.

by Anonymousreply 17January 3, 2025 2:09 AM

Very interesting theory, R16.

Lots of coincidences there, that may actually turn out to be more than just coincidences.

by Anonymousreply 18January 3, 2025 2:12 AM

[quote] Las Vegas and New Orleans Attackers Had 'Strange Similarities,' But No Connection Established, Authorities Say

As authorities in Nevada and Louisiana continue their investigation into their respective New Year’s Day attacks, questions remain about the attackers as the FBI said there's “no definitive link” between the events.

On Wednesday, Jan. 1, as people around the world rang in the new year, a terrorist attack in New Orleans killed 15 people. A few hours later, a Tesla Cybertruck exploded outside the Trump International Hotel in Las Vegas, killing one person and injuring seven others.

Shamsud-Din Jabbar, 42, has been identified as the attacker in New Orleans; he died in a police shootout shortly after the attack. Matthew Livelsberger, 37, was identified as the Cybertruck driver in the Las Vegas attack. The person inside the vehicle was "burned beyond recognition," Las Vegas Metro Police Department Sheriff Kevin McMahill said at a press conference on Thursday.

Investigators have said Jabbar acted alone in New Orleans, and McMahill said authorities are “not aware of any other subjects involved" in the Las Vegas case. But McMahill acknowledged some similarities between the attackers.

Both Jabbar and Livelsberger served in the U.S. Army and were stationed at Fort Bragg in North Carolina, McMahill said at Thursday's press conference. There is no record the two served in the same unit or whether they were there at the same time, he said.

They both served in Afghanistan in 2009 but police do not yet have information on whether they were in the same province. McMahill said any overlap between the suspects in the military remains under investigation.

The men also rented their respective vehicles used in the attacks from the peer-to-peer service Turo, McMahill confirmed.

“If these turn out to be simply similarities — they’re very strange similarities to have and so we’re not prepared to rule out or rule in anything at this point,” McMahill said in response to a reporter's question about how investigators are ruling out any connection between the two attackers.

“There’s lots more left for us to do in this investigation,” he said.

McMahill said the driver of the Cybertruck had a self-inflicted gunshot wound when he was found inside the vehicle.

Police have not yet established a motive behind Livelsberger's attack.

"It's not lost on us that it's in front of the Trump building, that it's a Tesla vehicle but we don't have information at this point that definitely ... suggests that it was because of [any] particular ideology," FBI Special Agent Spencer Evans said at the conference.

He added that authorities are investigating leads both domestically and internationally.

Meanwhile, the attack in New Orleans is being investigated as an act of terrorism, the FBI previously said.

Jabbar was carrying an ISIS flag on the truck he used in the attack, per the bureau. The Texas native had pledged allegiance to ISIS on social media shortly before the attack, adding that he had joined the terrorist group prior to the summer of 2024.

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by Anonymousreply 19January 3, 2025 3:44 AM

[quote] Mystery shrouds Las Vegas Cybertruck bomber's motives, authorities say

Decorated Army Special Forces Master Sgt. Matthew Livelsberger had an 8-month-old daughter at home and a new assignment involving drones that friends said excited him. He wrote glowing Yelp reviews praising the tattoo parlor in his Colorado Springs hometown and touting the benefits of float spas. And when his father last spoke with him on Christmas Day, he told CBS News, all seemed normal.

He "loved the Army and loved America," Roger Livelsberger said.

Matthew Livelsberger, 37, was on holiday leave from his station in Germany and his father had figured he would be returning to Germany. He said nothing with his son seemed amiss.

Days later, though, Matthew Livelsberger would rent a Tesla Cybertruck, purchase two firearms, take a meandering 1,000-mile drive from Denver to Las Vegas, and place himself at the center of one of two concussive New Year's Day attacks. What led him there remains, at least for now, a frustrating mystery to those who knew him, and to those investigating the attack.

"Obviously, we're always concerned in these sorts of events to ascertain what the motive is," said Spencer Evans, Special Agent in Charge of the FBI's Las Vegas Division. "We understand that's at the forefront of everyone's thoughts, and so looking into exactly what the motivation is remains our number one priority."

Figuring out what drove Livelsberger to explode a ragtag cache of fireworks and fuel tanks in front of the Trump Hotel on the Las Vegas Strip is not only a priority for law enforcement. It is also a question that has left his family and friends with heavy hearts and a yearning for answers.

Livelsberger's history offers few immediate clues.

A football star in high school in Bucyrus, Ohio, he enlisted with the Army after high school through a program called 18xray that allows applicants to train to be in the Special Forces without prior military experience.

He served multiple tours in Afghanistan and even started a charitable drive to bring toys to children there.

In 2010, he helped resettle a former Afghan interpreter he had served with in Afghanistan. CBS News spoke with the interpreter who said that Livelsberger was very kind to him and his family, and would often come to their house for meals, although not for many years.

Livelsberger was divorced from his first wife, remarried and had an 8-month-old child with his second wife. She continued to live in Colorado Springs and he traveled back and forth from Germany.

People who served with Livelsberger described him as a kind person who went above and beyond. One described him as an "idealist" and a real hero in his continued service to the country, including 5 tours in Afghanistan; Livelsberger, he said, had a "remarkable" military career.

"The American people still don't understand that quality of quantifying that service — someone could say they went to Afghanistan, but what did they really do?" this servicemember said. In Livelsberger's case, he said, "on a Special Forces team at the far fringes of U.S. support, operating with a lot of trust, very little direction, and make it happen, constantly in harm's way."

The U.S. Army Special Forces, known as the Green Berets, are a small but elite special operations force inside the U.S. military. Officially founded in 1952, their roots trace to the World War II missions carried out by the Office of Strategic Services, the precursor of the CIA. Small teams of Green Berets, known as Operational Detachment Alphas, are trained to carry out specialized missions from counterinsurgency and unconventional warfare to combat raids and special reconnaissance missions. "De Oppresso Liber," is their Latin motto: "To Free the Oppressed."

The close-knit Green Beret community has been left reeling in the aftermath of the Cybertruck explosion. Numerous former Green Berets spoke to CBS News to express their dismay over Livelsberger's actions.

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by Anonymousreply 20January 3, 2025 10:46 AM

Reposting from the New Orleans thread:

I suspect we’re going to learn that while the New Orleans and Las Vegas attackers were not aware of each other; both “attacks” were advised by a third entity.

I would not be surprised if ISIS has dark web manuals detailing the use of easily constructed bombs and heavy vehicles (which are even more publicly ubiquitous than guns - and arouse less suspicion) for domestic terror purposes.

It probably even recommends obtaining vehicles via an AirBNB-like peer-to-peer platform because the rentals will be subject to less scrutiny.

by Anonymousreply 21January 3, 2025 12:03 PM

Are they sure these people were Trump supporters? I'm thinking they are non-MAGA Republicans who hate what Trump has turned their party into.

by Anonymousreply 22January 3, 2025 1:01 PM

Maybe this one was staged, like the first Shitler assassination attempt?

by Anonymousreply 23January 3, 2025 2:16 PM

That sounds very possible, R21.

by Anonymousreply 24January 3, 2025 4:59 PM

doubt it

both sound deranged and we just happen to live in a time when there are many deranged people

by Anonymousreply 25January 3, 2025 5:55 PM

Leaving behind an eight month old infant and her mother who will not receive survivors' benefits from the Army. What compels the man described at r20 to abandon his family and possibly leave them destitute? Sudden, reactive psychosis?

by Anonymousreply 26January 3, 2025 6:09 PM

MAGAs now love the guy like he's Luigi or something

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by Anonymousreply 27January 3, 2025 6:35 PM

Why, R27?

What exactly did he do for their cause?

by Anonymousreply 28January 4, 2025 4:49 AM

Keep up, r28.

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by Anonymousreply 29January 4, 2025 4:54 AM

his manifesto is out now -

"Forwarded message From: dabergmlb dabergmlb@protonmail.com Date: On Tue, Dec 31, 2024 at 10:42 AM Subject: Fw: Re: Initial contact To: REDACTED Cc:

In case I do not make it to my decision point or on to the Mexico border I am sending this now. Please do not release this until 1JAN and keep my identity private until then.

First off I am not under duress or hostile influence or control. My first car was a 2006 Black Ford Mustang V6 for verification.

What we have been seeing with "drones" is the operational use of gravitiç propulsion systems powered aircraft by most recently China in the east coast, but throughout history, the US. Only we and China have this capability. Our OPCEN location for this activity in the box is below.

China has been launching them from the Atlantic from submarines for years, but this activity recently has picked up. As of now, it is just a show of force and they are using it similar to how they used the balloon for sigint and ist, which are also part of the integrated comms system. There are dozens of those balloons in the air at any given time.

The so what is because of the speed and stealth of these unmanned AC, they are the most dangerous threat to national security that has ever existed. They basically have an unlimited payload capacity and can park it over the WH if they wanted. It's checkmate.

USG needs to give the history of this, how we are employing it and weaponizing it, how China is employing them and what the way forward is. China is poised to attack anywhere in the east coast

I've been followed for over a week now from likely homeland or FBI, and they are looking to move on me and are unlikely going to let me cross into Mexico, but won't because they know I am armed and I have a massive VBIED. I've been trying to maintain a very visible profile and have kept my phone and they are definitely digitally tracking me.

I have knowledge of this program and also war crimes that were covered up during airstrikes in Nimruz province Afghanistan in 2019 by the admin, DoD, DEA and CIA. I conducted targeting for these strikes of over 125 buildings (65 were struck because of CIVCAS) that killed hundreds of civilians in a single day. USFORA continued strikes after spotting civilians on initial ISR, it was supposed to take 6 minutes and scramble all aircraft in CENTCOM. The UN basically called these war crimes, but the administration made them disappear. I was part of that cover-up with USFORA and Agent REDACTED of the DEA. So I don't know if my abduction attempt is related to either. I worked with GEN Millers IO staff on this as well as the response to Bala Murghab. AOB-S Commander at the time REDACTED can validate this.

You need to elevate this to the media so we avoid a world war because this is a mutually assured destruction situation.

For vetting my LinkedIn is Matt Berg or Matthew Livelsberger, an active duty 18Z out of 1-10 my profile is public. I have an active TSSCI with UAP USAP access.

Sent from Proton Mail for Android

On Sun, Dec 29, 2024 at 14:22, dabergmlb dabergmlb@protonmail.com wrote:

Sending with a ypn active on wifi only.

Do not message me. I will send out updates via both signal and email but trust me you're going to want to be involved"

by Anonymousreply 30January 4, 2025 8:11 AM

Holy shit, R30!!!!

That is .... incredible.

How did that information even get out to the media, if it was so secret and he feared for his life?

Whoever was tracking him, would never have allowed that note to be released.

by Anonymousreply 31January 4, 2025 8:17 AM

That must be why he cheated on his wife while she was caring for their 8 month old infant.

by Anonymousreply 32January 4, 2025 8:21 AM

[QUOTE]My first car was a 2006 Black Ford Mustang V6 for verification.

🤣🤣🤣

by Anonymousreply 33January 4, 2025 8:32 AM

R33 That's how you know he's a marine. As soon as they get to base they lease a mustang or a f150.

by Anonymousreply 34January 4, 2025 8:33 AM

Except he was never a Marine.

by Anonymousreply 35January 4, 2025 8:50 AM

WASHINGTON (AP) — The highly decorated Special Forces soldier confided to a former girlfriend — who had served as an Army nurse — that he faced significant pain and exhaustion that she says were key symptoms of traumatic brain injury.

Green Beret Matthew Livelsberger, 37, was a five-time recipient of the Bronze Star, including one with a V device for valor under fire. He had an exemplary military record that spanned the globe and a new baby born last year. But he struggled with the mental and physical toll of his service, which required him to kill and caused him to witness the deaths of fellow soldiers.

Livelsberger mostly bore that burden in private but recently sought treatment for depression from the Army, according to a U.S. official who spoke on condition of anonymity to provide details that have not been made public.

He also found a confidant in the former nurse, who he began dating in 2018.

Alicia Arritt, 39, and Livelsberger met through a dating app while both were in Colorado Springs. Arritt had served at Landstul Regional Medical Center in Germany, where many of the worst combat injuries from Iraq and Afghanistan were initially treated before being flown to the U.S.

There she saw and treated traumatic brain injuries, or TBIs, which troops suffered from incoming fire and roadside bombs.

“I saw a lot of bad injuries. But the personality changes can happen later,” Arritt said.

In texts and images he shared with Arritt, Livelsberger raised the curtain a bit on what he was facing.

“Just some concussions,” he said in a text about a deployment to Helmand Province in Afghanistan. He sent her a photo of a graphic tattoo he got on his arm of two skulls pierced by bullets to mark lives he took in Afghanistan. He talked about exhaustion and pain, not being able to sleep and reliving the violence of his deployment.

“My life has been a personal hell for the last year,” he told Arritt during the early days of their dating, according to text messages she provided to the AP. “It’s refreshing to have such a nice person come along.”

On Friday Las Vegas law enforcement officers released excerpts of messages Livelsberger left behind showing the manner in which Livelsberger killed himself was intentional, meant both as a “wakeup call” but also to “cleanse the demons” he was facing from losing fellow soldiers and taking lives.

Officials said Friday that Livelsberger apparently harbored no ill will toward President-elect Donald Trump, and Arritt said both she and Livelsberger were Tesla fans.

“I had a Tesla too that I rescued from a junkyard in 2019, and we used to work on it together, bond over it,” Arritt said.

The pair stopped talking regularly after they broke up in 2021, and she had not heard from him in more than two years when he texted out of the blue Dec. 28, and again Dec. 31. The upbeat messages included a video of him driving the Cybertruck and another one of its dancing headlights; the vehicle can sync up its lighting and music.

But she also said Livelsberger felt things “very deeply and I could see him using symbolism” of both the truck and the hotel.

“He wasn’t impulsive,” Arritt said. “I don’t see him doing this impulsively, so my suspicion would be that he was probably thinking it out.”

Arritt served on active duty from 2003 to 2007 and then was in the Army Reserve from until 2011. With Livelsberger she saw symptoms of TBI as early as 2018.

“He would go through periods of withdrawal, and he struggled with depression and memory loss,” Arritt said.

But Livelsberger was also sweet and kind, she recalled: “He had a really deep well of inner strength and character, and he just had a lot of integrity.”

When Livelsberger struggled during the time they were dating, Arritt prodded him to get help. But he would not, saying it could cost him his ability to deploy if he was found medically unfit.

“There was a lot of stigma in his unit, they were, you know, big, strong, Special Forces guys there, there was no weakness allowed and mental health is weakness is what they saw,” she said.

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by Anonymousreply 36January 4, 2025 10:12 AM

The US military creates these walking time bombs, set to go off with great regularity.

by Anonymousreply 37January 4, 2025 10:22 AM

He was insane

by Anonymousreply 38January 4, 2025 10:50 AM

[quote] He was insane

Insane from the horrors of war.

I don't think he was born this way.

But watching death, and carnage and having your head pounded by the booms of war weaponry will put anyone into shock.

I'm just surprised that we don't have more former military people cracking like this.

War and combat are absolute hell, and it can make anyone lose their mind.

by Anonymousreply 39January 4, 2025 10:55 AM

[quote]the mental and physical toll of his service, which required him to kill

If you're not willing to kill, FFS, don't enlist in the military!

by Anonymousreply 40January 4, 2025 10:55 AM

"a better term is disgruntled Trump supporters."

R15 a better term is nutty Nazis

by Anonymousreply 41January 4, 2025 11:01 AM

Regarding the manifesto at r30, is anyone else hearing Woody Woodpecker’s laugh?

Just me then?

by Anonymousreply 42January 4, 2025 11:10 AM

[quote] they will continue to say and due unreasonable things

Oh, dear.

by Anonymousreply 43January 4, 2025 11:10 AM

Looks like the drone issue triggered him. I still am puzzled by the "Big" tRump supporter and doing this in front of a tRump hotel in a mUsk cybertruck.

by Anonymousreply 44January 4, 2025 11:11 AM

[quote] Looks like the drone issue triggered him. I still am puzzled by the "Big" tRump supporter and doing this in front of a tRump hotel in a mUsk cybertruck.

Sounds like all his wires got crossed, and he short-circuited.

by Anonymousreply 45January 4, 2025 11:14 AM

R40 most don’t kill most hardly use their rifle on the range after boot camp.

This guy was the real deal. The top of the food chain as far as combat troops. The most physically demanding training and the need to be really smart. And he deployed to combat a lot.

R39 every war every combat deployment there are the walking wounded who are wound way to tight mentally from their tour.. Most though don’t crack. Combat is never healthy.

by Anonymousreply 46January 4, 2025 11:14 AM

If anyone wants to understand what combat does to those on the tip read Mike Herrs brilliant book Dispatches.

Then be glad you were a non serving remf.

by Anonymousreply 47January 4, 2025 11:17 AM

At a minimum, R45!

by Anonymousreply 48January 4, 2025 11:22 AM

Wackjob.

by Anonymousreply 49January 4, 2025 3:13 PM

[QUOTE]its dancing headlights; the vehicle can sync up its lighting and music.

But it can't haul hay.

by Anonymousreply 50January 4, 2025 3:30 PM

Oh well. I was wrong about him.

Yes, Trump support is a good indication of mental illness. Expect another four years of this.

by Anonymousreply 51January 4, 2025 3:58 PM

But he wanted to send a message!

by Anonymousreply 52January 4, 2025 4:00 PM
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