Elon Musk is going to get himself killed

[quote] Elon Musk is going to get himself killed

I just wish they would hurry up about it!

Time's a wastin', subtard MAGATS!

Shubtardsjsh.

He is DISRESPECTIN them.

Luigi became a folk hero for assassinating someone a lot less disliked, Elon.

From R3:

[quote] Several prominent X accounts are reporting that their verification badge and monetization has been revoked after criticizing Musk’s pro-mass immigration bent.

I hate Laura Loomer and her ilk, but free speech is free speech.

Elon Musk really is a fucking Nazi.

No criticism will be tolerated!

Now just imagine his influence over Trump and the United States Presidency, and we are in for a motherfucking bumpy ride.

The person who started the AMA thread is right.

Things are going to change very quickly, after January 20, 2025.

I think that there will be a major crackdown on free speech in this country.

Just watch.

Link to "AMA" thread.

It’s entirely possible Musk will not win.

r4 - Yes, but will a MAGA be as good looking?

The ape picks up a bone and ponders it. He flicks his wrist, jostling the other bones of the dead peccary. Harder, violently. The brass and bass drum begins to swell the opening bars of Also Sprach Zarathustra.

Elon is the richest man in the world, he can afford security like no other man on the planet. I doubt his life is in danger. That's why he keeps stirring up shit. That said, I hope he fighting with MAGA. Lame Duck Trump will look even more lame.

I'm already exhausted by this administration and Dump hasn't even taken office yet.

R10 so you are saying Musk can hire security

Mercenaries with no values who see how popular Luigi became

Not the same, Luigi took out a chump with no security.

I once read that Warren Buffett only pays the head of his entire personal security 70-80k a year. I don’t think these rich guys treat their security all that great. There was some academic interviewed on The Majority Report who attended a conference in Silicon Valley about futurism and societal collapse. All the VCs and rich guys were only interested in discussing how to enslave security to protect them from peasant revolts without having to pay them or shelter them well. They came up with bomb collars.

The same people here who called the unjabbed all kinds of names and made their lives difficult are here cheering this when it happens to others.

You have COVID and monkeypox because you happily gave it to yourselves while wishing others to die. Here you are again thinking fuck them, it isn't me.

Trump and Biden or any other fake politicians are on one side. The people are all on the other. Maybe it would help if you used your brain.

Spare us, R15. Nobody here made the lives of the 'unjabbed' difficult.

How much are you paid to promote this cynical bothsides anarchy bullshit? Is that disbursed in rubles, potatoes, or beets?

The lies you tell. There are videos everywhere of people doing this for 4 years. R15 is either a jab lover or one of the politicians hoping everyone just does what they are told.

You are going to be hurt from those needlejabs. That IS the reality.

I was talking to r16 above who may be innocent, but needs to check out all the videos of threatening libs doing the very things they claim to be against.

Jesus fuck, r17.

Don't you have a tinfoil hat to adjust?

Can’t sleep, high on MAGA schadenfreude

I’d planned to sit back and enjoy the vast meltdown of the MAGAs over the next four years, but the inauguration hasn’t even come yet, the fun is starting, and I’ve not made my popcorn!

Now do the evangelicals pissing off the tech bros…These dolts deserve each other. Subtards indeed.

R21=Elton John

Best popcorn in the world, r21.

Should make the ignor-uration almost bearable.

I found a great, new (to me) popcorn meme.

Musk, like Trump, is someone who navigates through life by intimidation. In reality they are both very likely terrified little men. Terrified that one day people will see what sad creatures they are behind the scenes when they're not in control. They operate on the belief that everyone who has any involvement with them is scared of them. Trump has the power of the Presidency to back him up, but even that has its limits with some people. Musk only has his money and the power to fire people who work for him to back him up, or remove their little blue checkmarks. His perceived power is on much shakier ground and I live in hope (and expectation) that he and RFK, Jr., and the various nitwits they'll bring on board in the Trump administration, will be the first to fall. They will hopefully be the first dominoes to tip in the long line, bringing down higher and higher players until the last tile (Trump) falls.

I have a lot of hope that this incoming Trump administration will be the thing that finally gets democrats and many voters who've fallen for republican lies for decades to wake up. If things work out well the next 4 years (or however long it takes) will be the final nail in the GOP's coffin. The political system in America has needed massive changes for a very long time. Hopefully the next few years will be what causes it. I'm old, so I just hope I'll be around to see it if it happens.

Wasn't Subtard the name of this clown's prototype in 2018?

r25, can you bottle some of your optimism and ship it to me?

Elon calling someone subtard is what he actually thinks of himself since he is not an engineer and wants to enslave Indians using Vivek so that he can feel like one. Elon has no skills. He was given tax money by Onada. He is not wealthy. It is our tax money he is claiming.

Vivek thinks he is doing good. He is truly an idiot for them.

Our tax money and he is attempting to steal all of it by destroying government oversight via dodgy doge and civilian oversight by having the 160 year old Qui Tam law declared unconstitutional.

Reminder to Elon that all government contracts can be terminated for the government’s convenience. Ask Bezos.

When it comes to oligarchs versus the government, the government will win. If they want to.

I suspect a lot of security is just for show and to make the client feel important, r14. I have an acquaintance who worked as bodyguard for some billionaire in Miami. He made 60k year and got almost zero time off. No one who is worried about their safety would pay a bodyguard five figures. Elon, cheap bastard that he is, probably has useless and underpaid security.

You can have all the security in the world, pay them well and still die of a drug overdose if you are using, which Elon most certainly is.

It's a lie that Thompson had no security. He had a security at the hotel he was staying at.

R10 Elon is not the richest man in the world. Bezos is.

My greatest desire is to have Elon or RFK Jr. OD live on TV.

R35, wrong. It’s not even difficult to check.

MAGA and Leon are already on the outs? Is this the "Civil War" that he and that group have been wet over these past few years, then? Subtards vs. King Fucktard of Africa?Go for it, guys. Have at it.

R32 they’re actually so delusional they think people will be incredibly grateful for mere sustenance wages. They are all fools who profit off of others talents.

Musk has a private army protecting him.

Oh, so the palace coup has begun? How long before Trump is fully sidelined and Musk and JD (aka Thiel's Sock Puppet) run the country?

Well it won't be by a headshot, unless they go through his toddler

This is not a palace coup. This is MAGA waking up to the reality that their hero doesn’t give a shit about them and has turned the government over to his billionaire friends so that they can protect and enrich themselves.

MAGA been played.

^^^Nope they have not realized this yet. They will protect dear leader. They think that Elon is betraying their Orange lord and savior and refuse to recognize that this is why Trump was purchased by Elon. For the grift.

[quote] Elon Musk is going to get himself killed

Well, that would be a shame...

[quote] Nope they have not realized this yet.

The attacks on Musk ARE them figuring it out.

MAGAs will eat their firstborn before they turn on Dump

Don't hate me because I'm beautiful.

My gut says they are going to figure it out way sooner than we give them credit for.

I think some of you are giving them way too much credit. They'll just throw out some distraction, 'the Mexicans are raping your daughters,' the blacks are getting free stuff,' and they'll all fall back in line and sing campfire songs together.

Unfortunately, it's too late. They will have figured it out too late for us all.

Musk assumes he can acquire the support of the MAGAs simply by acquiring their leader, but Trump’s popularity is not transferable and Musk is a particularly unpleasant, thin-skinned and socially inept guy. For a while, the fact that he was supporting Trump was enough to buy him some popularity beyond his own geeky fanboys but I don’t think it will last. Wait until he tries to slash the social safety net.

The fact that 50% of Teslas are made in China and Musk is looking to expand his operations there is anathema to MAGA. An illegal immigrant beholden to the CCP is ultimately untenable to MAGA. Trump has put himself in a bind by giving Musk so much power. 🍿🍿

[quote] Musk has a private army protecting him.

Yet it would be quite easy for, say, the Ukrainian Special Forces to fly an armed drone into Elon’s private jet just as it was taking off from Austin TX, or an airfield in CA.

This IS them figuring it out:

La Loomer:

Full tweet:

The elephant in the room is that @elonmusk, who is not MAGA and never has been, is a total fucking drag on the Trump transition. @realDonaldTrump

He’s a stage 5 clinger who over stayed his welcome at Mar a Lago in an effort to become Trump’s side piece and be the point man for all of his accomplices in big Tech to slither in to Mar a Lago.

He told Bob Iger at @Disney to “go fuck himself” over Ad money, but he won’t tell Xi JinPing and Li Qiang to go fuck themselves and he’s perfectly happy to take their money to fund his Shanghai Giga Factory.

Elon cock blocks the nominee meetings and tries to undermine anyone and everyone who doesn’t do his bidding. It’s wildly inappropriate how a guy with no experience in politics who has been a Democrat his entire life is now staffing the Trump admin.

He’s completely compromised by the CCP and he has unfettered access to President Trump.

This is fucked up and we need to stop it NOW!

It’s the biggest elephant in the room and everyone is too scared to talk about it.

Why is Jared Birchall, @elonmusk’s money manager who is also CEO of @neuralink, ELON’S company that wants to put chips in everyone’s brains, at Mar a Lago interveiewing candidates to work at the state department? What the fuck are Jared’s qualifications aside from the fact that everyone who works for @elonmusk is a full time Xi JinPing dick sucker? How is he qualified to choose candidates to work in the State Department… you know the same @StateDept that’s supposed to handle CHINA?

Hellllooooooooo @marcorubio what the hell are we doing here?

Is this MAGA?

This is not “attention seeking” @elonmusk.

It’s called accountability. You want to be so rich that you can bully everyone into not holding you accountable so you can pursue your own conflicts, which are EXTENSIVE.

I’m happy to list all of them.

I’ll need a larger character limit on X though to do that.

Trump was talked into fully embracing Musk by the two elephant men, Eric and Don Jr.

Nah uh this is a legitimate red pill/blue pill moment

The hyenas are turning on Scar

I think Putin told Trump to empower Musk and Trump had no choice.

The subtards will embrace Musk Rat as long as dump says so. Subtards love being abused in the name of MAGA.

The question remains “How much choice does Trump have about embracing Musk?”

This reminds me, I need to make some popcorn.

I get that he needed Musk during the campaign, and he's given him this position, but Trump will have the top prize in a couple of weeks. After he's back in the Oval Office, how much longer will he need, Musk? Once he's President again, what can Musk do to him? Trump is Teflon.

Musk has billions and petty vindictiveness. That's more than you can say about DNC. I see the 25th Amendment or a fatal "heart attack" in Trump's future and President JD Vance unless Trump does whatever Musk, Thiel and techno billionaires tell him to do.

LMAO!

R59 - The United State Federal Government, should they so choose, could dump Elon Musk and never even notice. Any idea that he has any kind of power over them is complete fantasy, and he uses dumb people who believe in that fantasy to continue his position.

Trump turns on everyone, he has Elon's money, he will dispose of him eventually. Trump has no inhibitions about changing his story, he could say all elephants should be shot and the next day say he never said that or that someone else said it. A normal person would lose face over embracing Musk one day and publicly rejecting him the next but Trump won't. Trump enjoys risk, he has to feel untouchable after being re-elected, he will gleefully tell Musk to fuck off eventually. Trump shits on everyone.

To bring Elon into the gentlemen’s fold, he needs to take a seat on Lindsey Graham’s famous yellow office coach with bronze leaf prints and an abundance of matching pillows. RFK Jr. is the latest to enjoy it as many celebrities and politicians have done beforehand over the years.

Even Elon must satisfy criteria as assessed by Lindsey.

Tulsi Gabbard not welcomed.

Putin may control both Musk and Trump through kompromat. God knows each of them has enough skeletons in his closet.

Lindsey’s yellow couch is ugly as fuck.

[quote]I hate Laura Loomer and her ilk, but free speech is free speech.

Stop propagating a false narrative. It has nothing to do with "Free Speech."

Musk owns 80% of Twitter/X. Twitter is a privately owned platform.

He can ban whomever he wants for whatever reason he wants.

MAGA World will do whatever Trump says.

R58 no

They do not love Trump more than they hate brown people

Trump has just learned the limits of his appeal

[quote] Once he's President again, what can Musk do to him?

He’s a slime ball like they are

[quote] Stop propagating a false narrative. It has nothing to do with "Free Speech." Musk owns 80% of Twitter/X. Twitter is a privately owned platform. He can ban whomever he wants for whatever reason he wants.

Not if he wants to maintain his credibility as a free-speech champion.

(You are confusing a legal claim under the First Amendment with the value of “free speech.”)

"Not if he wants to maintain his credibility as a free-speech champion." WITH THE MAGA SUBTARDS

The rest of the world already knows what a fraud he is

“I didn’t think the leopard would censor MY speech.”

Damn, this is the perfect fight for them to have, as far as the rest of us are concerned.

And though it's really tempting to just sit it out and enjoy the popcorn, I think we should be supporting the MAGA working class on this one, against the fans of indentured servitude. The oligarchs are dropping all their masks and stating clearly that they want a working class barely above slave labor, willing and eager to work long miserable hours for low wages, and to like it.

And along the way stating clearly that for them it has never been about any bullshit like restricting immigration to raise wages for the native populace. It's always been about everybody, immigrant and native born, being content with corporate serfdom.

I really hope we don't hear a lot of Democrats asking everybody to simmer down and work with Silicon Valley on this whole H-1B thing, to find an "acceptable" solution. Nah, go for the class warfare on this one.

[quote]The oligarchs are dropping all their masks and stating clearly that they want a working class barely above slave labor, willing and eager to work long miserable hours for low wages, and to like it.

ASOLUTELY NOT TRUE!

We don't give a single fuck whether you like it or not.

Oh, dear.

OH, DEARIE DEAR!! Laura Loomer and Musk didn't even last playing nice till the inauguration.

“Unmask! Unmask!”

I think Musk will never be cast aside because he used his shitty satellites to steal the election.

Whatever happened to the good old days when the Pretorian Guard could help one fall on their sword.

[quote] I once read that Warren Buffett only pays the head of his entire personal security 70-80k a year.

Warren Buffett is actually a decent guy so he probably doesn't need to worry about it as much.

R77 - "it's really tempting to just sit it out and enjoy the popcorn" ... nobody is going to 'just sit it out', and that includes you.

It's very satisfying to watch them all turn on each other.

He's what happens when incels get sex. Same with Thomas Middleditch and Marilyn Manson. They always want to blame women for incels' shitty behavior, "If only you'd fuck them, they'd be normal, good humans." Turns out the sex just makes them worse

R83 - The main point of celebrities having security is that it screams 'LOOK AT MEEEEE!!!". Years ago you could go to the Jackson (WY) WalMart and see Arnold Schwarzenegger walking around, pushing a shopping cart. And that story comes from one of the Forbes 400 who was walking around pushing his wife's shopping cart.

[quote]He's what happens when incels get sex. Same with Thomas Middleditch and Marilyn Manson. They always want to blame women for incels' shitty behavior, "If only you'd fuck them, they'd be normal, good humans." Turns out the sex just makes them worse

He's also what happens when incels get sex and they start believing that the women are there because they want to be, not because they're billionaires.

This Vivek tweet has the ultra-online wing of MAGA up in arms.

An excerpt—

[quote]Our American culture has venerated mediocrity over excellence for way too long (at least since the 90s and likely longer). That doesn’t start in college, it starts YOUNG.

[quote]A culture that celebrates the prom queen over the math olympiad champ, or the jock over the valedictorian, will not produce the best engineers. A culture that venerates Cory from “Boy Meets World,” or Zach & Slater over Screech in “Saved by the Bell,” or ‘Stefan’ over Steve Urkel in “Family Matters,” will not produce the best engineers.

[quote](Fact: I know *multiple* sets of immigrant parents in the 90s who actively limited how much their kids could watch those TV shows precisely because they promoted mediocrity…and their kids went on to become wildly successful STEM graduates).

[quote]More movies like Whiplash, fewer reruns of “Friends.” More math tutoring, fewer sleepovers. More weekend science competitions, fewer Saturday morning cartoons. More books, less TV. More creating, less “chillin.” More extracurriculars, less “hanging out at the mall.”

[quote]Most normal American parents look skeptically at “those kinds of parents.” More normal American kids view such “those kinds of kids” with scorn. If you grow up aspiring to normalcy, normalcy is what you will achieve. Now close your eyes & visualize which families you knew in the 90s (or even now) who raise their kids according to one model versus the other. Be brutally honest.

The MAGA civil war has begun!

Lissin. Elon is digging a hole. Trump is not gonna have Elon fucking up his base. They're gonna fall out. Elon is not wrong on this one. We need people with skillz.

Biden has a final rule on streamlinining the H1-B visa process going into effect Jan. 17. In planning well before Trump, but a brilliant fuck you nonetheless.

I have a dream... Trump and Elon have a falling out because Elon is...being Elon, and Trump is being Trump. Elon gets pissed. To prove he is r ight and Trump is shit, Elon will turn on Trump, because Elon knows if he doesn't Trump will turn on him... Trump is going to do something insulting to Elon. This is easy to predict because Elon is thin skinned and Trump insult people as easily as he breathes. OK. So Trump says or does something Elon gets personally insulted by, and to show Donnie who is in charge, Elon flexes his muscles, and helps the Democrats. It could happen. Elon doesn't really believe in anything. He's no Stephen Miller. In fact the real fight that is going on right now is with Miller. And Elon is gonna win.

We need people with skills to do what

We need more Luigis.

Ohhhh my God, re: R89. The conservative Mama Bears are going to flip their shit over that. No one --NO ONE-- tells them their perfect parenting is *wrong* and it's actually their fault their kids aren't engineers.

Before the election this same guy was saying their kids weren't getting those sweet, sweet jobs because of DEI. Now, he being honest and telling the absent dad's and mama bears it's because they are shitty parents?

Delicious. Just delicious.

Musk and Trump share an aversion to paying their bills. MAGA lets Trump get away with it, I don't think they'll be as forgiving with Elon.

[QUOTE]Reminder to Elon that all government contracts can be terminated for the government’s convenience. Ask Bezos.

If this is the case, I don't doubt Trump would hesitate to do it. I think he might start with yanking his security clearance, or threatening to, at least.

Tom Nichols has had security clearances most of his adult life and writes about Elon's status. The WSJ article about his illicit drug use would be enough to get most folks' clearance revoked.

To the issue of the ultra-rich and their security…

(1) I don’t think there is any level of security that guarantees someone will be free from harm. You can eliminate much risk; you cannot eliminate all risk.

Look at what happened to Trump at his Butler PA rally. Given both Trump’s resources plus his status as a former president, he’s got more security than most anyone anywhere.

(2) Even setting aside how effective high-level security can be, who wants to live like that? I’m one of the poors; I’d love to have endless fuck-you money. But at what cost? You can be filthy rich but you have zero spontaneity or true freedom in your life. Just to get a Big Mac you need a security detail? Who wants to live like that? No, thanks.

*absent dads

Elon is silly. I don't think he is accustomed to dealing with the t hugs Trump knows. Now Putin might save Elon, but it'll cost him.

ROFLMAO at Vivek is basically using the "it's your culture" argument on MAGA, the same shit they used to say to Black people back in the 90s. "It's not your race that's holding you back from succeeding, it's your culture!"

Let me grab my popcorn. I'm enjoying this implosion.

He's not going to be able to keep his mouth shut about the stolen election. He's a compulsive everything.

I love it. Elon and Vivek are going public with how little the needs and desires of MAGAt trash mean to them is delicious.

R31 - sweetie, corporations are the government now. The whims and strategies of the wealthy heads of corporations will always prevail, no matter which side of the red vs. blue divide you're on.

[quote]Look at what happened to Trump at his Butler PA rally.

You mean the razor-blade-to-the-earlobe trick that Shitler pulled to make Americans think he was shot at?

I'll cut to the chase: we turned heaven and earth over to find Luigi, flay him open for the world to see what happens to an assassin, and are moving through the slow torture and grind of our "system" of justice. Compare and contrast that with Tom Crooks, of whom we know next to nothing (and bear in mind that someone at that rally was killed). I could go on for thousands of words, but the point is that these two events are in no way similar, whether we're discussing motivation or outcomes.

Using the so-called assassination attempt in PA as an example of security (or security failure) is a non-sequitur. IOW, it's not a failure if the intention was to elevate the target as a matter of public perception.

That condition preventing the ability to read a room must be a challenge for him.

[quote]Elon Musk is going to get himself killed

I don't see the problem.

Bring on all the popcorn memes. If we have to endure Trump 2.0 then ket it provide some “MAGA troglodytes vs Billionaire douchebags” sideshow amusement, the more vicious the better.

[quote] Look at what happened to Trump at his Butler PA rally. Given both Trump’s resources plus his status as a former president, he’s got more security than most anyone anywhere.

I don’t think Elon will be holding any scheduled outdoor campaign rallies.

President Elon will rule Xmerica from his teXas bunker.

[quote] Elon Musk is going to get himself killed[quote]

Don’t you threaten me either a good time!

*WITH

DAMN YOU, autocorrect

Dump will keep musk rat forever. He’s got a million ideas and billions to pay for them. I view him as dumps vice president and JD is Invisible Viv. We never hear from Vance-he’s hanging with Jr. and Choad.

R112 you better hope ‘’Oh Dear’’ isn’t lurking in the ether.

We live in hope.

What a riot this has been! I made a promise to not follow any of the Trump madness going forward. But I backslid and have been reading all the various meltdowns. How joyous!

Muskrat Love ❤️

One just can’t look away from the epic train wreck we ALL knew was coming, r116.

Don’t be so hard on yourself

[quote] Elon and Vivek are going public with how little the needs and desires of MAGAt trash mean to them is delicious.

There’s only been this one issue where there’s been disagreement, albeit a big one. Other than that they have been pretty aligned with MAGA. Vivek could turn it around if he makes an about face and denounces the firing of American tech workers and replacing them with Indians.

I'm really sorry Matt Gaetz resigned. It would have been the opening salvo in the Donald Trump Show & Revue 2.0, having a sexual pervert running the Justice Department of the United States.

[quote] Vivek could turn it around if he makes an about face and denounces the firing of American tech workers and replacing them with Indians.

And I see no reason for him to do that when it would benefit Indians.

R119, do you seriously believe Vivek's enormous, oversized ego would ever let him apologize for anything? Same with Elmo.

These two assholes didn't get where they are today by apologizing for any damn thing.

[quote] do you seriously believe Vivek's enormous, oversized ego would ever let him apologize for anything? Same with Elmo.

I don’t think anyone or anything could move Musk, but Vivek is a politician who hopes to have a political future.

Keep going, Elon...

[quote]Vivek is a politician who hopes to have a political future.

That's not happening.

Racist MAGAts are not voting for a person of color. Viveka has no political future in the GQP.

[quote]Vivek is a politician

Someone who has never held elected office is not a politician.

I'm sure Musk has a shit ton of security.

Bezos getting tossed into the H1B. He's importing warehouse workers on the visa scheme.

There's a growing subculture of Tesla owners who really hate Musk - maybe they'll run him over or something.

As a Tesla owner who lurks on Reddit/forums, there's not nearly enough of us Musk haters.

interesting r129. It hasn't even started, but these mass deportations and this obsession with immigrants is going to backfire on a lot of asshole rich. Good.

When Hertz gets finishes dumping their fleet of Teslas onto the US car market, cratering the already poor value of used Teslas, they'll be plenty of Musk haters. Tesla has the highest percentage of owners "under water" on their car loans than any other brand.

If not then, then later in 2025 when all the vehicles Elmo least to his idiotic customers back in 2022 start coming off lease.

Musk looks weather besten.

^beaten

Oh, look. We can figure out which corporations and employers large and small that import special talents for all sorts of positions like cashiers at 7-11, cooks, massage therapists, janitors, etc under the H1-B program.

For once I agree with Elon, and you can cut off "to do skilled jobs". The astounding stupidity of the American general public is why we're heading into this coming disaster.

Good riddance!

Kill it.

[quote]When Hertz gets finishes dumping their fleet of Teslas onto the US car market, cratering the already poor value of used Teslas, they'll be plenty of Musk haters.

Hertz really got fucked with those Teslas. They were so unpopular they had to beg their customers to rent them, and now they are selling them at a huge loss.

So Leon believes in mass immigration?

Oh I hope so.

It's hard to rent an electric car and not know where and how you were going to power it.

Hopefully by 2027 magats feel betrayed and disgusted with trump

Never forget who created Musk: the US Federal Government. Unkie Sam likes him and that's really all you need to know.

Predictably, Nimrata "Nikki" Hailey has come down on the ultra MAGA side of "We certainly don't need more Indians"!

There aren't depths low enough for that twat!

It's quite the strategy for the Indian challenger for the nomination to back Trump, to receive a big role in return, and then to promptly inform the Trump base their culture sucks, they are lazy and unskilled, and that go-getting Indians nerds are urgently needed to save American!

You have to laugh at these characters.

The two tech bros are the ones causing the big headaches now. But Trump wants them to do his job for him so I guess they stay around for awhile.

Of course "Americans are retarded". How the fuck do you think Trump got into office and this was allowed 👇 in the country!

[quote]It's hard to rent an electric car and not know where and how you were going to power it.

Getting people to select a rental EV would be a tough sell with any make of EV.

" Orange Man buy me - how you say ? - H-1B visa when I come as mail-order-bride. He say no one has poosy like me. "

Elon is such a vile creature, he’s more likely to be offed by someone close to him, who has to deal with his egomania on a personal basis. The best security detail in the world won’t keep him safe from an enraged associate, employee, or family member with access to him.

"Love One Another"

As long as Elon is useful to guys like Putin, and is generous with his billions, nothing bad is gonna happen. I'd bet on Trump getting dead before Elon.

Erik Prince, the scumbag brother of Betsy DeVos, owns a security firm Dump and associates use

Eye am be bestest arkeeteck, R151! Fat orange retard husband pay for Einstein Visa.

R129, there's no Amazon warehouse in Arlington. All of those people are for Headquarters 2.

"And though it's really tempting to just sit it out and enjoy the popcorn, I think we should be supporting the MAGA working class on this one, against the fans of indentured servitude. The oligarchs are dropping all their masks and stating clearly that they want a working class barely above slave labor, willing and eager to work long miserable hours for low wages, and to like it."

100%

Why couldn't the Dems have drawn a fight out of them re: this specific matter during the election campaign? It would have been so easy, but they were terrified to talk inmigration in detail and Trump WON on that issue. Useless.

Guy is a freak.

[quote]He just called MAGA “subtards”.

...which of course THEY ARE.

This is playing out like a Disney film or Twilight Zone episode about an awkward, anti-social 5th grader who swaps bodies with an ugly, middle-aged billionaire.

No R159, these tards put their feet in their mouths only and precisely because they’ve already won the election

[quote]Why couldn't the Dems have drawn a fight out of them re: this specific matter during the election campaign?

Obama ran on curtailing India outsourcing in 2008, and then did a 180 when he got elected.

I'm very interested. Which best search words do you recommend?

[quote]This is playing out like a Disney film or Twilight Zone episode about an awkward, anti-social 5th grader who swaps bodies with an ugly, middle-aged billionaire

And the 5th grader is called Elon Cartman….

Ellen Deplorean

When the Ammonites and the Moabites start killing each other, you don’t pick a side. You get popcorn.

Wise words from jumpin Jehoshaphat.

I wonder how long it will take for Elon to get Trump addicted to Ketamine, if he hasn't already.

Without reading through the entire thread, OP - we can only fucking hope he achieves that.

Elmo doubles down! What a disaster.

They always double down. They never reconsider, see they were wrong, and back off. Hint: it's because they're *crazy*.

[quote]Why couldn't the Dems have drawn a fight out of them re: this specific matter during the election campaign? It would have been so easy, but they were terrified to talk inmigration in detail and Trump WON on that issue. Useless.

I was wondering how long it would take for someone to 1) drag the Democrats into this and 2) blame them for something that has nothing to do with them.

Com’ on, Elon. You’re in Mar-a-Lago a lot. Certainly you have had multiple opportunities to visit Lady Lindzebelle’s suite. However, knowing this is a Trump property, it is understood you may have apprehension about possible hidden cameras.

Given your means, you can take the lady to a secluded, private, and romantic location. If you do, you’ll feel fulfilled, satisfied, joyous, and less obsessed about power and control that eats at you.

Watch out, Elon, you are getting more publicity than the boss, although, technically, you ARE the boss. That's the one thing he cannot tolerate.

R173 Flipping through the channels this morning, I tuned into 'FOX & Friends' just when they started covering this (they waffled so much and tread so lightly, I have no idea which side any of them are on). The idiot filling the third seat since Hegsmeth left wanted to know "Where are the Democrats in this debate ?" He asked, "Why aren't they part of this HEALTHY debate ?" The three hosts expressed their dismay that Dems have kept quiet.

Can they not understand this is not the Dems fight, and we're enjoying just watching these two morons (Vivi and Musk) beat each other to a pulp ?

But without the Democrats in this Civil War, they have no one to blame aside from MAGA!

Where's the way to blame old Killary or "Boozebag" Nancy? You know, the old standbys.

That's a rough go for them. Work hard, guys! I'm sure you will find some batshit way to blame your self inflicted problems on them!

[quote] Can they not understand this is not the Dems fight, and we're enjoying just watching these two morons (Vivi and Musk) beat each other to a pulp ?

They’re on the same side .

R178 My apologies - I meant to say the two of them can beat up the MAGAts while we Dems sit back and watch.

What a difference in perspective from the FOX clowns and MSNBC's Symone / Steele / Alicia on the same subject.

^Wait, Ahe thought Trump woddn't gon' start no new wars. Ahe's confused.

I entirely support this war of Elon Musk against the MAGAts, but I will go farther and say we Democrats should actually be supporting the MAGAts on this matter.

This is a perfect opportunity to do that thing everyone was babbling about after Kamala lost: reaching out to the white working class in a real way. Become the anti-billionaire fuckwad party, for real.

I agree R183, but they've only been fighting a couple of days. We need to sit back and let them really go at it for a while, then step in and remind them of the things Democrats have done to help working people.

[Quote]Elmo doubles down!

He's autistic. They struggle with their rigid thinking and outbursts. Trump needs to give him a tub of sensory playdoh.

Trump may come out in support of Elon, since H1B is all about cheap labor and indentured workers and Trumo is all for that, however if the base rebels, he may have to do a 180 like he did with Vaccines. He was so proud of fast tracking the Covid vaccines until he realized the bas was all anti vaccine so the base forced his hand. That could happen again

The anti-tech bro working class are not going to flip to AOC, people.

Trump is their forever guy.

R187 a high number of people in AOC’s district voted for her AND Trump. She reached out to them and asked them why, because she wanted to educate herself, and she posted the responses on her Instagram account so others could also learn.

Monica Crowley on Fox News says when she saw her do this, she knew AOC should not be underestimated.

R183 not only that, but why HASN’T the Democratic Party been running on this issue which is perfect for winning the middle class? Even Steve Bannon said that it’s better for companies if the have DEI for Americans than to recruit foreigners.

Noooooo, we just HAD to protect your right to transition your children instead.

[quote]Trump needs to give him a tub of sensory playdoh.

He could slice it right off his left thigh and no one would be the wiser.

Anti-DEI is pro Dalit class for sure, but immigration is complex so let the extreme position division trials destroy each other before we enter the fray.

Of course the trolls here blame Democrats. I expect nothing more.

I don't think we're blaming Democrats. It's more like asking whether Democrats should stay neutral or engage more forcefully, specifically on the side of workers against owners. Yes, class warfare is a real option here, and we should do it. Everyone knows this whole thing has begun as a civil war within the MAGA movement. Great, let's see what we can do with that.

[quote]Racist MAGAts are not voting for a person of color. Viveka has no political future in the GQP.

I agree with this. He is learning the lesson the hard way.

[quote]but why HASN’T the Democratic Party been running on this issue

Have you been in a coma for the past 2.5 years?

Facts don't matter. Truth is no longer true. Despite running the economy to it's best state in decades as exemplified by the lowest sustained unemployment period in history, literally leading the world out of the pandemic abyss, it did nothing to help the Democrat win. Biden brought manufacturing jobs back — jobs that explicitly did not require a college degree yet paid college-degree wages — and it did not even merit a blip on the campaign trail. No one paid attention to reality; it was much better for the Republicans when we thought immigrants were eating cats and dogs, murdering innocent young women, and terrorizing communities than to point out the fact that Americans are fully employed with rising wages.

When historians study the collapse of the USA to Russia and China, they'll look at this election that should have been a blowout for Democrats and wonder why the American people fell for the lies, half-truths and outright fabrications about our system. Then this argument will give them an inkling: the American people are stupid, lazy and ignorant, and they love it. Thinking is hard. Much better to listen to a snake oil salesman and throw away your, your children's and your grandchildren's future... to own the libs.

Don't forget eggs costs $20/dozen, R195.

Trump said so himself. Never mind Donald Trump has never set foot inside a grocery store with the express purpose of buying groceries.

And the MAGAts believed him. And the idiots out in New Castle, Pennsylvania believed him and voted for Trump because only Daddy Trump can protect his children from the evil libtards.

[quote] He was so proud of fast tracking the Covid vaccines until he realized the bas was all anti vaccine so the base forced his hand. That could happen again

Billionaires can change his mind even more quickly than his base.

See Tik-Tok, cryptocurrency.

What does he need his base for now?

[quote] We need people with skillz.

Not spelling skills, apparently.

Can’t they frame Elon for some heinous crime that money can’t buy you out of, jail him and steal all of his money?

You come up with the crime that money can't solve, and we'll give it a try!

This is all about being able to pay your engineers 60% of their American counterparts wage, while basically employing them in an indentured servitude capacity.

We are trending toward pitchforks at a fast clip and I for one can't wait.

'I Told You So' days are upon us.

"Despite running the economy to it's best state in decades as exemplified by the lowest sustained unemployment period in history"

I begrudgingly voted for Harris even though I knew she was going to lose and she's a corporate bot, BUT---the bullshit above is why the Dems have lost the working class vote. The economy is NOT in its "best state" for most Americans. Inequality is higher than ever, and that unemployment rate you're crowing about includes jobs that don't count as such---no or limited benefits, no or limited labor protections. The American worker feels more expendable and exploited than ever and if you look at those two issues together, they are.

"[R183] not only that, but why HASN’T the Democratic Party been running on this issue which is perfect for winning the middle class?"

They don't want to sacrifice the inroads they've made with big business over the past 4 decades, especially since 2016---but they lost so much of their constituency over it. Morons. The issue won't go away until corporate money is forced out of politics, but that won't happen without a real mass movement in the streets.

"but that won't happen without a real mass movement in the streets."

Anybody hoping for Americans taking to the streets anytime soon is setting themself up for major disappointment.

NFL playoffs start in a couple of weeks. Then the Superbowl. By that time, it will be time for NBA All Star Weekend, followed closely by NCAA College hoops tournaments. Then the NBA/NHL playoffs begin, which last till the middle of June.

Unless you can magically pry Americans away from their TV sets, don't bet on them takin' it to the streets any time soon.

Bread and circuses for the masses.

Actual Americans are too busy working for their money to spend time on pointless jackoff activities like demonstrations.

Are you suggesting the economy under Trump was BETTER for "the working class", r202??

Nice try.

R205, that is how the system is meant to work: keep people economically anxious so that they don’t have time to protest. But the very wealthy always want more. If you make people desperate enough bad things can happen.

Caitlyn Jenner sucking up to Musk & Trump.

Both Trump and Musk look irritated in the pic with Caitlyn. Trump looks like he is gritting his teeth and Elon is giving a weak half ass smile just to make it seem like he's ok with her.

R208 You’ll never guess where Elon’s hand is!

Elmo disowned his trans kid but puts his arm around Caitzilla for a photo op. Shameful.

Caitlyn probably doesn't care about Elon disowning his trans kid even though years ago she was often talking about trans kids being disowned by their parents and being bullied on reality show.

All of Cait's Republican "pals" probably talk shit about her behind her back. But, a part of me would love it if Cait and Nancy Mace got into a spat.

"Are you suggesting the economy under Trump was BETTER for "the working class", [R202]??

Nice try."

Nice try, you dishonest moron. I said I voted for Harris specifically because with all other things equal, a Republican economic platform will always be worse for the working class. That *doesn't* mean that the economy now is better than it ever has been for workers.

I don’t understand his scientific terms. Is a subtard a retard on a submarine?

Caitlin Jenner:

"I hope you are surrounded by massive security and in an extremely safe undisclosed location - you just became public enemy number one to some very very bad people, I pray for your safety and thank you for your bravery! We need more @elonmusk in our society!!!"

[QUOTE]But, a part of me would love it if Cait and Nancy Mace got into a spat.

Who would out-histrionic who in this scenario?

And how does Caitlin finagle an invitation to Mar a Lago? I can see Trump asking who let her in.

Musk needs to be Luigi'd.

I love how the most famous transgender woman in the world has publicly endorsed Elon Musk for saying that Americans are too retarded for tech and need to be replaced with more intelligent Indian immigrants. Keep twisting the knife into MAGA, y’all!

I have no doubt there's some disordered individual out there who is contemplating it as I type this post. But he's probably better protected than Trump with former Mossad types guarding him. He's probably surrounded by a human shield as he moves from an armored vehicle into whichever place he's going and his schedule is unannounced. Probably the only way to get him is using a shoulder fired rocket launcher if his private plane is on a flight tracker. Of course, he's thought of this. He suspended a Twitter user who tracked his and other famous people's private jets.

So Trump has disavowed the “nightmarish invasion by foreigners” issue that was the cornerstone of his political career. He’s not even in back in office and he’s betrayed everyone who voted for him. I guess that’s what having experience does, he can wreck everything in a much more efficient way.

Trump is siding with Musk and against MAGA. In a couple weeks, all of the MAGAts will be singing the praises of Elon and denying that they ever opposed H-1B.

Haha deplorables are unemployable.

R222 Not really. They can fill the vacant fruit-picking jobs (or else go to debtors prison) when all the Mexicans are deported.

Nuclear war.

🍿🥤🍿

When a 53 year old man says “Fuck yourself in the face,” it’s perfectly acceptable to stuff him into a gym locker.

Nerds were never meant to taste power like this

Trump would have said ANYTHING to get elected. Everyone knew that, including all the MAGA nuts. Not one of them believed him mentally well or competent. Remember that.

One MAGA at my workplace said he wasn't worried that Trump would cause a nuclear war because if he did anything too crazy,, the "deep state" would kill him. Which is insane, since only the president can start nuclear wars and he can do it easily within a few minutes.

The democrats aren't getting into this fray because they're smart enough to sit back and watch them eat each other alive & tear the republican party apart. Like I've said before, Trump, Elon, Vivek, and the rest of the MAGAT crowd will do more to help the democrats retake power in Congress in 2 years than anything the democrats can do themselves.

[quote]The democrats aren't getting into this fray because they're smart enough

Just stop there. " Democrats" and "smart" should never be used in the same sentence unless it's " Democrats are not smart." 2024 is a perfect example of how "smart" Democratic politicians are.

^^DJT

Eh R231 as Vivek has pointed out sometimes smart isn’t popular.

Anyhoo, MAGA is shitting BRICS and it is fascinating to see.

R231, never interrupt your enemy while they're making a mistake. The only people who want democrats to jump in the fight are Republicans who hope to unite the Republicans into hammering the democrats. Have you never seen a fight in high school?

All of this will probably become my fault eventually

Stoppit! No one is going to kill Ellen!!! That's why we moved. In the Cotswolds there are no guns. Just lots of pubs.

Why is he constantly everywhere, all at once now, opining on everything in our government on our screens? 🙄 America needs a break from Elon Musk already and the new admin. hasn't even begun yet.

He's the President Elect, R237.

Because he's a tard with no social skills R237. He doesn't know when to stop. He's possibly the wealthiest person on the planet but spends all day taking ketamine and posting on Twitter.

Remember when all of those kids were trapped in a cave and he wanted credit for saving them with his ridiculous submarine but they said it wouldn't work so he had a tantrum and called the guy who saved them a pedo?

[quote]Elon Musk is going to get himself killed

It's taking forever!

I was talking to a Republican friend of mine this weekend who loathes Trump. He is looking forward to the midterms where he thinks that people will be so sick of Trump's chaos that the Democrats will see huge wins. He is already looking into which races need $.

I admit I admire his attitude; I am still wiped out with nothing to give my party. I also appreciate his assumption that we will have elections in two years.

[quote] I was talking to a Republican friend of mine this weekend who loathes Trump. He is looking forward to the midterms where he thinks that people will be so sick of Trump's chaos that the Democrats will see huge wins.

Did the friend also think that Biden, and then Harris, would win the election this year?

At this level of megalomania, death may come sooner than we (or he) think and by his own hand.

I didn't bring it up, R243. I just enjoyed the rare bonding moment over our mutual loathing of Dump. It is the holiday season, after all.

When I was doing drugs, the ketamine enthusiasts were the worst. They would drool on the couch and have days worth of totally false memories. Combative as hell too

Are there any hot tubs in the White House where President Musk can relax in?

Very interesting, r246.

[QUOTE]Elon Musk’s former pal, philosopher Sam Harris, claimed the billionaire is in the throes of social media addiction, “snorting ketamine and tweeting at all hours of the day and night,” he added in the Friday episode of his The Bulwark podcast. Harris called Musk’s X behavior “palpably, visibly deranged”

I'm sure Musk thinks he's indestructible, but have he or those around him (his boards of directors, security, the household staff) developed contingencies should he OD? Would they call 911 and the authorities like everyone else or would they try to go about covering up his death and causes? I very much doubt he'd wind up on a county coroner's slab like Matthew Perry.

R50 nails it. That is exactly what they’ll do. Democrats need to hone on this and talk about it 24/7. Make it propaganda.

[quote]When I was doing drugs, the ketamine enthusiasts were the worst. They would drool on the couch and have days worth of totally false memories. Combative as hell too

Well, that explains his paranoia and belligerent, profanity-laced tweets. He needs to chill out in some relaxing, warm water!

"Don't forget eggs costs $20/dozen"

Eggs cost $18 a dozen in some places in NoCal right now, because of bird flu.

[quote]That *doesn't* mean that the economy now is better than it ever has been for workers

Way to move the goal posts, R213. The economy is in better shape than it's been [italic]in decades,[/italic] but certainly not [italic]ever.[/italic] I agree, there are issues that are worse now than ever; income inequality is at a zenith, the value of money has been eroded with inflation, and we are faced with an uncertain future as the nature of work, both manual and intellectual, is undergoing radical change. In terms we can understand and have a long-standing basis on which to compare, however, the US economy is performing like at no other time.

And all of that is about to change.

MAGAts voted away the stability that Biden brought. One of the advantages of his age (since all we've discussed are the disadvantages) is that he understood the fundamentals of the economy, how it works, and how you invigorate it without spiking it. Trump will spike the economy with some budgetary tricks (for instance, I expect he'll start issuing stimulus checks when his numbers go south, and as we saw during the election, there is a constituency that thinks this is "free money"), but if he actually follows through with either the mass deportations [italic]or[/italic] tariffs, it will crash the economy; if he does both, we're looking at a depression that will make the Great Depression look like a walk in the park.

The goal of the oligarchs is not to make average American lives better. It is to make themselves richer, and the way they do that is by concentrating wealth at the top and keep everyone else fighting over the scraps. It's why Elmo said that there was going to be some pain in the coming months. The easiest way to understand what he wants to do is to look at Russia's economy, where oligarchs reign supreme and common citizens get nothing.

People who turbo post-vomit and start fights on the Internet while they are suffering from insomnia are mentally ill losers. Leon included.

[quote]Why is he constantly everywhere, all at once now, opining on everything in our government on our screens? 🙄 America needs a break from Elon Musk already and the new admin. hasn't even begun yet.

Germany is holding elections in February and Musk has already endorsed the far-right AfD party. Hopefully he will start focusing on that race instead of being Co-President of the U.S.

One of the replies at r244 is gold:

[quote] if ketamine could do us a solid here, I’d really appreciate it [quote]