OG ‘Law & Order’ is Now Streaming

They were streaming on Peacock for a long time.

Only the late seasons, R1. Hence “OG” in the thread title. You couldn’t get anything before season 13 on Peacock, and you still can’t today.

LOVE this! I have the DVD box set, but it is a hassle to pull them out.

I can’t imagine what it’s like going on a binge with a DVD box set, R3. 😭 Streaming is way better.

Got them from the usual places many years ago... I only kept the OG from 1-16, though -- after that, it was all downhill.

Jerry Orbach made that show.

It is in widescreen for me? Not a complaint, but I thought it would be in 4:3.

Still a subscription.

It’s in widescreen for me, R6.

For the longest time, it was as if the Michael Moriarty seasons didn’t even exist. I can recall some stations, after running through the entire series (this was before it got rebooted), cycling back to the introduction of Sam Waterston in season five instead of the first season with Moriarty. I almost fell off my chair a couple of years ago when I happened to surf past an episode one day and it featured Moriarty.

Obviously, this was due to the enormous popularity of Waterston and the Jack McCoy character, which I totally understand. The man was fabulous.

Moriarty is an extreme right wing conspiracy kook.

I’ve never watched an episode, not even a moment, of this television fixture.

It's no Storefront Lawyers.

New York before it was turned into a suburban shopping mall.

[QUOTE] I’ve never watched an episode, not even a moment, of this television fixture.

This should be a source of embarrassment for you, not pride.

Embarrassed, R14?! About not watching a television show?! Not in the least. By the way, I can make the same claim about the CSI franchise, too.

Then why are you on this thread, freak?

Why are you bragging about not experiencing something, r15? You must be some kind of religious freak who takes pride in abstaining from fun things.

Wow, does Chris Noth have a honker on him! Look at that thing.

R18, it works for him. Too bad about him being an asshole/sex pest.

[QUOTE] Embarrassed, R14?! About not watching a television show?! Not in the least. By the way, I can make the same claim about the CSI franchise, too.

Yes, embarrassed, R14. Nothing wrong with never seeing an episode of CSI, but Law & Order is way better and you should at least give it a try.

Sorry, meant R15 there.

Jerry Orbach is extremely comforting

I'd ruin a young Chris Noth. DUN DUN

[QUOTE] Jerry Orbach is extremely comforting

He made us want to believe that the world was guarded by tough but fair crime stoppers like Lennie Briscoe.

Does anyone know if they are the full episodes as originally aired?

I've been watching L&O: Criminal Intent on some fly-by-night channel on YouTubeTV,, and I'm pretty sure some scenes are edited out to fit in yet another three-minute ad for St. Jude's or supplemental Medicare insurance. Sometimes it really affects the plot. For example, the episode in which Merritt Wever and the woman who played young Judy Garland in that TV movie play nannies who are obsessed with a soap opera and wind up killing some guy, they find a row of peas next to the body. I'm pretty sure in the original episode this was explained as lining up peas was the Wever character's way of keeping control of things while she was in an institution. In the episode I watched last night, they just find the peas and it's never brought up again. (Wever is amazing in the episode, BTW. Her performance in her final scene is shocking and amazing.)

II might start L&O: Original Recipe again if the episodes are complete.

They are the full episodes as far as I know, R25.

R24 YES!

He was there for me when my parents divorced

The death of my grandparents

College and law school finals

Studying for the Bar

And countless other times I was depressed, anxious, and trying to overcome my inner demons

Where am I? Watch me!

I can't believe R25's persuaded me to look at my L&Os for a row of peas.

BTW, it's Season 13, Episode 1. I'll let you know.

Nope, I was wrong. Not that episode. I'll try again.

Chris Noth was so hot.

The "Pea" episode is season 2, episode 7 of CI. It's called "Tomorrow."

A Law & Order thread is always a great time to tip the hat to Leslie Hendrix, ME Elizabeth Rogers. More than one hundred episodes of L&O. More than 100 episodes of L&O:Ci and quite a few appearances on SVU and the other, lesser L&Os. It's intimated Rogers dated both Danny Rodd and Lennie Briscoe in various episodes.

Also, Hendrix was the understudy for Jessica Lange in "A Streetcar Named Desire" and Kathleen Turner in "Indiscretions."

Hopefully, she's financially comfortable from all of her her short, sharp scenes.

Now the stories are ripped from the history books.

I just watched the episode where Van Buren kills a kid during a robbery. That has to be one of the best. It’s like a one hour movie.

[quote]It's intimated Rogers dated both Danny Rodd and Lennie Briscoe in various episodes.

Who?

"Danny Rodd" sounds like a porn star.

Sorry...It's ROSS.

My finger messed up.

R24- In 1976 he was hawking the NEW Chevrolet.

What I love about Law & Order is that it gave a ton of professional theater actors work in television.

George Grizzard, Philip Bosco, Elaine Stritch, Jerry Stiller, Tovah Feldshuh, Jeffrey DeMunn, Pati Lu Pone, and many others were memorable and regular defense attorneys who gained more recognition on the stage than in film or television.

Even Edie Falco pre-Sopranos was practically a series regular as a shrewd and fast-talking defense attorney.

Oh, it's CI, R32!! We were taking about the OG here, so I just assumed. I'll have to dig out the CI.

Was Hudson University as dangerous back then as it is today?

Woohoo. Maybe I”ll reactive my Hulu which I currently have on pause. I do need to watch the last 2 episodes of Aaron Hernandez after all. The first 6 seasons of the original L&O are some of the most riveting court room drama there is. It was so well written and the detective segments had good cunt remarks by the detectives themselves.

[quote] I'm pretty sure in the original episode this was explained as lining up peas was the Wever character's way of keeping control of things while she was in an institution. In the episode I watched last night, they just find the peas and it's never brought up again.

R25, the entire explanation of the peas, sans them knowing who the killer is, is presented at the beginning of the episode, around the 7:35 mark. See peas lined up again at the 21:10 mark, on a kitchen table, obviously by the Wever character. And that's it.

Hope that helps.

Mr. BIG is looking fine in OP's pic

The earliest seasons were the best.

Did anyone else thin Paul Robinette (Richard L. Books) was gay?

^Nope

Yeah he definitely pinged to me.

R22 and R24: Jerry Orbach and his wife were very kind and caring in real life, too. He was beloved in NYC.

Rest In Peace.

R33 I agree. Rogers was my favorite character. Snide one liners from a world weary medical examiner with ever changing hair color.

This is the best news i’ve heard all day!

R51 this is all I’ve been watching for three days now.

There have been quality rips of the DVDs on the torrent sites for years. L&O is a fixture on my media hard drive.

Riding R15’s coattails-never watched any of that. Not proud Not embarrassed just kinda not interested.

Chris Noth was hot in them days. Afraid to look up a current pic of the man-could be fatal.

Was in love with Noth’s hair.

I don't live in the U.S. but it seems every L&O spin-off airs all the fucking time on TV -- all but the original L&O, the only one worth seeing.

My enthusiasm for the old show and the old episodes has probably waned considerably, but how nice it would be to have them available on a streaming network, or even one of the TV package of channels that comes with a mobile phone and wireless package. There's a sea of terrible American police procedurals available, just not the only one worth the occasional binge watch, L&O original (less those first few seasons with that prickly Moriarty cunt )

Just started Episode1, Season 1 OP! Forever grateful…

I LOVED the original episodes and as a jaded NYer prided myself I could quickly identify every street corner even if they obscured or changed the business signs. The first year I was in NYC, I was working in film production, and shot all over the city, It really was quite different NYC and I’m kind of afraid to rewatch them and see how different it’s really become.

A coworker was the key hairstylist for the L&O series for a decade, I remember when he got the job, and I thought, “Wow! What a great job to have.” Our previous boss had a horrible habit to bounce payroll checks!

There's an OTA channel, [bold]Charge![/bold], that shows L&O CI every weeknight from 9PM-1AM.

[quote]Jerry Orbach and his wife were very kind and caring in real life, too.

Orbach was the original Billy Flynn in Broadway's Chicago and voiced the candle in Disney's animated Beauty and the Beast.

As someone who grew up in NY in the 90s and 2000s, no show does a better job of capturing the city in all its complexity and variety. The show understands that life in NY is tribal and that social interactions and expectations are governed by the customs of one’s class and race.

And the accents. No other TV show gets the subtle variations of a New York accent so right. You can understand a character’s entire backstory from just a few words by their accent.

The main cast was phenomenal. From 1990 to 2005, they had a roster of great actors who disappeared into their characters:

Chris Noth

Michael Moriarty

George Dzundza

Richard Brooks

Dan Florek

Paul Sorvino

Carolyn McCormick

Jerry Orbach

Jill Hennessy

S. Epatha Merkerson

Sam Waterston

Benjamin Bratt

Carey Lowell

Angie Harmon

Jesse L. Martin

Elisabeth Rohm

Dennis Farina

Dianne Wiest

Fred Dalton Thompson

and, of course, the ever stoic Steven Hill

Jill Hennessy is one of the most beautiful women who ever lived

Seconding the poster who commented on how Law and Order really knows how to use NYC. And they don't rub your face in it, constantly shoving it in your face, which makes it even better.

[quote]Orbach was the original Billy Flynn in Broadway's Chicago and voiced the candle in Disney's animated Beauty and the Beast.

You've never heard of a little show called "The Fantasticks"? He was the original El Gallo. The show only ran for 17,162 performances.

I enjoyed "L&O:UK" and wish it has lasted longer.

In this New York police department S Epatha Markesan goes from poor single mom living in the projects to police lieutenant in less than 3 years.

R62 agreed which makes me sad because the new York accent is literally dying.

[QUOTE] In this New York police department S Epatha Markesan goes from poor single mom living in the projects to police lieutenant in less than 3 years.

And she worked hard for it.

R70 I watched and L&O recently and one of the Judges had a very specific kind of wealthy, educated, older, Jewish lady accent. It’s not the accent my grandmother had, but it was the accent of my grandmothers rich friends.

Just from the Judge’s voice I could tell: what her education was, what her values were, how she would treat the Jewish defense attorney.

I rarely hear that accent in real life anymore. Hearing it on an old episode of L&O order evoked a very specific kind of nostalgia.

$50 that was Fran Lebowitz, R72.

R72 I think I know what you mean. Patti Lupone has it too. New York has the most universal accent among all the ethnic group while still having subtle differences based on class and race. Patti Lupone plays a defense attorney for a family whose au pair is accused of “shaken baby” ripped from those mid 90s au pair scandals.

The Execution episode was just on Sundance TV. Poor Jamie Ross. Lenny shouldn't have fallen off the wagon and had that drink.

R75 you mean Claire Kincaid (Jill Hennessy)

Fun fact, network wanted Eric La Salle. Dick Wolf wanted Richard Brooks. Wolf got what he wanted.

I loved Law and Order so much in the 90s!

Episode 2–Cynthia Nixon as subway vigilante who kills a Black kid. 35 years and still ripped from the headlines

Sarah Paulson played the Long Island Lolita in an episode lol.

I remember the episode where Patricia Clarkson played a socialite madame.

Felicity Huffman as a soccer mom who was turning tricks during the day

Allison Janney as the whistleblower on the mob

R73. I know Fran Leibowitz very well. To me, her accent is New York Jewish, but very much of the Boomer generation. You can tell she grew up in the suburbs.

The actress I was talking was talking about was Joan Copeland

Turns out she’s the sister of Arthur Miller.

You can hear her accent in this video

R81 That was the first season. She was operating a high end whorehouse. One of her gals got HIV.

There is a very good episode during the first season about a closeted gay guy. It’s done very well. I actually first saw it my freshman year of college which made realize I was gay. I just was. Took me 4 more years to finally accept it.

[quote]one of the Judges had a very specific kind of wealthy, educated, older, Jewish lady accent.

R84, subtle (ha!) humblebrag, eh? If Joan Copeland was the woman who had the accent, why didn't you just say so?

The first episode has a doctor on trial for being a drunk drink 6 bourbons in a hour lunch before being cross-examined. Come on, now.

R89. Yep the original pilot is actually episode 6 I believe. Yes I am obsessed with OG Law & Order.

Fun fact— Both Robinette and Dan Florek lost their jobs in season 4 because NBC insisted the show include some women.

I agree with those above that Jerry Orbach gave the show its spirit. It was still pretty good afterwards, just not quite as good.

R92 I agree he did leave his mark. But to me the show is actually better in the 3 seasons that predated him.

I liked the episode where Robert Klein played a Jerry Springer-type and someone was murdered on his show.

R91 Florek went on to play Cragen on SVU while Brooks became a great defense attorney.

Episode 3–N-word, F-word and R-word. Gasp.

[quote]R-word. Gasp.

Republican?

R96 Come on, it is the '90's!

Logan’s mouth can be distracting. It seems like he’s wearing lipstick. I keep thinking he rushed to work on a call while in the middle of a drag show.

Paul Sorvino is really underrated as a detective.

r49 I know this sounds weird but his death was actually sad to me. He didn't seem that old. It's crazy to think he has been dead for 20 years now.

How is that weird? The man was a national treasure. His death should’ve been sad for everybody. If I was President at the time, I would’ve addressed the nation from the Oval Office.

Twenty years! I guess it seems more recent because I still watch the show and it doesn’t seem dated.

Chris Noth can arrest me.

Season 1 is a bit odd but it does start picking up after a couple of episodes. It's so funny seeing things like break dancing and rapping in the first few episodes and the reaction by Chris Noth and his cop partner lol. I like the attorney the best of the main players. I was a middle schooler in the late 90s and I have never seen any episodes before the 7th season or so. I have some catching up to do!

Looking at the ratings history in wikipedia, I'm surprised that it didn't even hit the top 20 until it's 9th season (where it stayed until Season 15).

r105 The show really shows the Disneyfication of Manhattan through the years. The early seasons had more of a gritty vibe, even when dealing with the upper class characters who may have committed the crime Something about the first 6 seasons just seems raw.

R107, it really is a time capsule, for sure. It took place at the perfect time, pre-Giuliani, during Giuliani and post-Giuliani. But, then again, even the first two seasons of SVU were gritty and those took place in the late 90s/early 00s.

R75, thank you for catchng my mistake. Yes, I meant Claire Kincaid died in the accident. I typed that while looking at Jamie Ross.

L&O killed two ADAs; Claire and Alexandra Borgia.

There is an episode featuring Charmaine from the Sopranos. She hates the mob in the L&0 episode too. I wonder if it's a personal reflection.

[quote] Yep the original pilot is actually episode 6 I believe.

Definitely episode 6. Different tone; different structure; different visual style. Dzundza is thin; Max is not a Sgt,. Robinette is introduced as the new guy and someone else is the DA.

[quote]There is an episode featuring Charmaine from the Sopranos.

Is there an episode with Rosalie Aprile (Sharon Angela)?

She was gorgeous

Aida Turturro and Vanessa Williams in episode 5.

r113, she was as well as the first female attorney. Those 2 and Angie Harmon were beauties.

r114, You know thats not THE Vanessa Williams. I mean you'd have to know if you seen the episode. They don't shit alike, but it is other black chica who starred in the Soul Food tv series.

R116, Vanessa William's attempt to play "ghetto" in Candyman is hilarious. The way she says "gang bang". It's like she was back to playing that Shakespearean actress on The Cosby Show!

r117 I haven't seen the original Candyman in ages. But I know in New Jack city she accurately portrayed an around the way sounding chica. Rock-a-bye baby.

R118, should I give New Jack City a try? It looks very early 90s (maybe in both good ways and bad).

r119 Its no Goodfellas, but its a solid urban crime flick. The acting is good. There are so many quotable lines which grew to be notable urban pop culture.

Is there a better show to truly show the realness and rawness of New York City?

What kind of bullshit is two actresses with the same name at the same time (they are weeks apart in age). Don’t they have rules about this kind of thing?

r122 Vanessa Williams is always credited was Vanessa L. Williams. But she pretty much was always bigger than the other lovely one, she just wasn't an actress first. I think this Vanessa Williams had registered her name with SAG first, for some soap opera. Anyone remember when she was on the first season of Melrose Place. She was bohemian as fuck. I just remembered as my mom used to love that show.

always credited as* Vanessa L. Williams.

R123, that did suck that she was let go after the first season.

r121 well if you want true grit, watch the movie Kids by Larry Clark.

[QUOTE] Is there a better show to truly show the realness and rawness of New York City?

Law & Order is tops, but New York Undercover is up there too.

Another show that did a great job of showing the rawness of New York was Kojak with Telly Savalas.

It always bothered me that the show labels the cops “law” and the lawyers “order.” It’s the other way around.

r129 No its not you OCD cunt. The cops are enforcing the law, and the lawyers deciding the appropriate punishment-- the order. Now carry on.

r129 Also what about the handful of episodes where they started with the lawyers you filthy cunt.

I’m talking about the opening credits which labels the detectives “Law” and the prosecutors “Order.” . You might argue that the cops are enforcing both the law and order, but the prosecutors are just focused on the law. The argument that the lawyer’s are deciding the “order” is just weak.

In any case homicide detectives aren’t really about either law or order. They are investigating facts.

r132 You matter of fact, whore. Everyone colloquially refers to the police as the law. Like why you snitching to the law? The attorneys establish order for charged criminals and, "here here order in the court."

By the way, I am just being playful but thats how you should view it.

I started at Season 13 on Peacock. It was the earliest one they featured. No0w I have to go back and watch all the other ones. Thanks, Hulu.

I am aware that people refer to the police as “the law,” but no one refers to lawyers as “the order.” The title is fine. It’s the graphic motif of the credits I have a problem with—suggesting that that the two functions can be separated and “Law” assigned to detectives and “Order” to the prosecutors. It suggests a significance that isn’t there.

r135 But what about us?

What’s happened to you is especially heinous.

Lorraine Toussaint was great as recurring Defense attorney Shambala Green

The Hedda Nussbaum episode had a long, elaborate disclaimer.

Michael Moriarty was a drunk and got into a fist fight with Chris Noth.

Paul Sorvino had to break it up.

Carolyn McCormick as Elizabeth Olivet was also a great character!

[QUOTE] Michael Moriarty was a drunk and got into a fist fight with Chris Noth. Paul Sorvino had to break it up.

He’s lucky Paul didn’t get him wacked.

[quote]Michael Moriarty was a drunk and got into a fist fight with Chris Noth.

I saw them together at Circle in the Square for a performance of The Rose Tattoo, sometime in 1995 or thereabouts. They seemed to be getting along fine. They're so tall.

I also got to talk to Anne Heche outside before the play started. I told her how much I liked Vicky on Another World. She thanked me, and was very nice.

R143 I find that odd. Moriarty isolated the entire cast by the end of his run.

My character ranking:

Detectives:

1. Lennie Briscoe

2. Mike Logan

3. Rey Curtis

4. Phil Cereta

5. Ed Green

6. Joe Fontana

7. Max Greevey

8. Cyrus Lupo

9. Kevin Bernard

10. Nick Falco

11. Nina Cassidy

Captains:

1. Anita van Buren

2. Donald Cragen

EADA:

1. Jack McCoy

2. Ben Stone

3. Michael Cutter

ADA:

1. Claire Kincaid

2. Paul Robinette

3. Jamie Ross

4. Abbie Carmichael

5. Serena Southerlyn

6. Alexandra Borgia

7. Connie Rubirosa

DAs:

1. Adam Schiff

2. Arthur Branch

3. Jack McCoy

4. Nora Lewin

5. Alfred Wentworth

Speaking of wack, Sopranos star Michael Imperoili also guest starred as a limo driver stalker borderline autistic. He was so fucking hot.

I also remember Edward Hermann as a formidable defense attorney

The 3 part episode based on OJ is good too.

What episode is that, R148?

I'm watching Season 13 episode 8 and I have concluded that Luigi may have had a psychotic episode, not hallucinating but definitely delusional.

r145 You ranked me so low because I'm a LESBIAN!

R141, I liked Olivet, too. And Skoda

I'll allow it, but watch yourself, McCoy.

I liked Serena. The only regular cast member I didn't like was Rey. What a priss. I didn't take to Dennis Farina's character at first, but I think that's more because he replaced Lennie than any inherent characteristic of his own.

R150 The episode Luigi most reminds me of is the schizophrenic, alcoholic son who killed the wrong parents in a blackout rage. He killed the wrong parents because he entered the wrong townhouse on the upper east side. This episode has to be late 90s, early aughts.

R155 Anyways the actor playing the son was hot and dark looking. Not Italian-American looking but just kinda dark.

The downside of watching L&O on Peacock (and WEtv, and BBC America, and POP, and Sundance) is the crossover episodes with Homicide: Life on the Street. You never see the ending of the case.

R145, great ranking. The only one I really disagree with is Connie Rubirosa. I think she should be higher, I like her and Cutter paired together. And for EADA, I think Mike Cutter and Ben Stone should be tied.

The current cast of Law & Order cast is so hot. I want Mechad Brooks to fuck me and I want to eat his ass.

R157 Cosmo, you can now watch the entire seven seasons of Homicide on peacock.

Thanks. R160. I may look into it.

R158 Thank you!

I love Rey, maybe it is my crush on Benjamin Bratt, but I really like Rey. He is no Logan or Briscoe, but Rey is a good character. He is flawed.

I just watched Prince of Darkness S3E8

"She doesn't have an uncle" is the most haunting line in the entire series.

^ I love that one

Robinette returned as a guest in a plot line very similar to Losing Iasiah.

A couple years ago I was watching cable tv in another country and the episode where Serena quits was shown. Her final line was cut.

Two Academy Award winners in one episode! 1/14. Samuel L. Jackson and Philip Seymour Hoffman (credited as “Phil Hoffman”) who played two different characters in the episode. The internet seems to have missed his second part (the hypnotist) but does note that this was Hoffman’s first ever credit.

I saw the episode with Claire Danes yesterday, it was very good. I had no idea she was in a Law and Order episode!

Wow there’s some great stuff in here. It’s so riveting. These new episodes since the reboot are like a shell of what the show used to be. I watch an episode or two a day of the old stuff and it’s better than any movie on Netflix.

I just watched a bit of an old SVU dubbed in Spanish on a Panama cable channel to try to improve my Spanish, but the voices of the characters were so disconcerting I had to turn it off.

As I said in another post, everything here is novel, yet so familiar. Strange.

The City is the main character

There is a really good episode where S Markeson has to fire her weapon against a black male youth. Very riveting. Superb acting.

I like the episode where Robert Klein is a Jerry Springer/Geraldo-type and a dad kills his son's molester on live TV.

There is also an episode based on the Atlanta Child Killer, the most prolific convicted American serial killer of all time.

I loved their winter coats! OMG, All the detectives looked great in their outside walking & talking scenes.

R169 Agreed. The early (first 3, maybe 4, years) episodes were like movies. Told a great story with flawless editing. Those seasons made me impatient with bloated crime movies. And they were current at the time, truly 'ripped from the headlines.'

Orbach and Noth = 👌

R175, I was just thinking that. They all dress very well.

Yet they are instantly pegged as cops based on their clothes.

Even many of the poor criminals on the show dress well lol. At least in the earlier seasons.

That was one of Fontana’s (Dennis Farina] characteristics (?), he wore $300 shoes and expensive suits which implied —but was never shown—he was on the take. He was great, I wish he’d been on longer.

R181, I remember many, many people not liking Fontana when he first came along. I think it was just because Orbach played such a great character and ended up being an institution on the show. But I think Fontana was actually pretty good. Definitely a different character but underrated at the same time.

R182 You nailed it for me. I liked Dennis Farina in other things, especially Get Shorty. He was great in his own series, Crime Story, with Billy Campbell. I just didn't accept him as Orbach's replacement; I doubt I would have accepted anyone.

I liked Season 15, the season right after Orbach left. The cast was great:

Dennis Farina, Jesse L. Martin, S. Epatha Merkerson, Sam Waterston, Elisabeth Rohm, and Fred Dalton Thompson

[quote]Her final line was cut.

Her final line was "Good." The second-to-last line was "because I'm a lesbian."

I don't understand why people don't like Sutherland. I'm on Season 4 now and I'm liking Schiff less and less. He's a curmudgeon which makes him likeable and frustrating at different times.

R186 Schiff is the most realistic L&O character, "cut a deal."

R187, I can see that

The episode where Schiff has to take his wife off life support is heartbreaking. He's such a gruff character in the office and watchig him in that scene is a 180.

He was kind of hot (in a '60s way) when he was the original lead of "Mission: Impossible."

R190, I see what you mean. He has that reserved waspy look to him. But hot!

Steven Hill was in The Slender Thread, a great movie with Sidney Poitier, Ann Bancroft, Telly Savalas, Ed Asner, and Dabney Coleman.

I just watched the one based on Lizzie Grubman. The woman hit a homeless man and drove home with him through her windshield. She was driving some custom high-end car (Phantom? Viper? Something from a James Bond movie). The car was custom painted so they were able to track her down easily. Note to self - if you hit a homeless man, may it be in a run-of-the-mill Chevy or Buick.

I just watched the one with the woman who promised her baby to three couples with no intention of actually giving it up (Season 4).

[QUOTE] Schiff is the most realistic L&O character, "cut a deal."

Why did I read that in Schiff’s voice? 😂

Watching the episode in Season 4, Sanctuary, about racial riots instigated in NYC after a guy hits and runs a boy. The way Stone and the black lawyer talk with each other about reality, I cannot imagine this conversation happening on a tv show today without endless criticisms of his "white privilege" and "savior complex".

Apologies, as I never watched the show, but who is the older of the two actors in the OP pic? I feel I should recognize him from elsewhere.

Jerry Orbach, R197. He played Detective Lennie Briscoe on the series for 12 years, arguably the best time of the show. He is the first face on the Law & Order universe’s Mount Rushmore.

R198, and don't forget he voiced Lumierre in Beauty and the Beast. A very talented guy

The dead guy in the windshield wasn't about Lizzie Grubman, rather some awful woman in Texas, Fort Worth or mid-cities, IIRC.

R199 Orbach also played the closeted gay guy in Last Exit to Brooklyn. AND he was great in Crimes and Misdemeanors.

R201, oh yeah! I forgot about that last one. Is Last Exit to Brooklyn rough? I know the book is by the same guy who did Requiem for a Dream.

R202 VERY rough! I was surprised at the time. Includes the scene where Jennifer Jason Leigh's character chooses to get fucked to death on the docks. Yikes.

R203, just as I thought. I would expect no less from the creator of Requiem for a Dream.

A lot of Broadway actors were gainfully employed because of this series. And... so far I have seen Coleman Domingo as a defense attorney, and a young healthy Chadwick Boseman as a young criminal. Others too but I'n not usually good with names.

R205 So you remember the name of the episode or season Domingo was on. I’d love to see it.

R206, not that poster, but it looks like he was in three episodes in the '00s, per wiki.

Benjamin Bratt was sex on a stick when during his run. He was distractingly handsome.

[quote] Benjamin Bratt was sex on a stick when during his run. He was distractingly handsome.

Tell me about it.

Benjamin Bratt also had hot, tight, and firm little body

I could not stand Benjamin Bratt. I probably missed half of his episodes, just because he was in them. Datalounge Hot at best.

R211 you're missing out on some good seasons/episodes!!

r211 The man is hot. But it's funny, he is probably is my least favorite detective. His character was lowkey a right wing cunt. I prefer Jesse L. Martin, Lenny(Jerry Orbach) or Chris Noth. Hell even that other Italian cop who came on after Orbach's passing. Chris Noth was actually sex on a stick. I'm so weird.

The episodes I'm watching right now are just post 9/11 so they talk about how the FBI is focused on terrorists and mention 9/11 a lot. I do love these and earlier episodes where you can see famous actors at a younger age, just starting out.

[quote] Coleman Domingo

His name is COLMAN.

[quote] Hell even that other Italian cop who came on after Orbach's passing

That's Paul Sorvino! He's awesome.

R216 No, Sorvino was before Orbach, Dennis Farina was after.

r217 yea Sorvino was the replacement cop after the guy from Basic Instinct quit. Yep Dennis Farina, thats him.

R217, my bad, I totally read that sentence wrong, you are correct.

How many people realize that there was a character in Law and Order named Adam Schiff and he was the D.A.???? Isn't that ironic?

Orbach must have continued to work on the show after his cancer diagnosis.

R221 Yep, he did and everyone knew it. His final scene when he leaves the precinct had to be tough on everyone in the cast and crew.

But it was toughest of all on Jerry Orbach.

I wonder if Chris Noth will ever work again.

I have 170 episodes recorded on my Tivo, so I'm good!

R11, And you mention this why? Like you're superior? Stupid? Incurious? Rebellious? Poor?

R15/r11 would've been the guy saying, "Watch some theater play with those filthy Groundlings? I'd rather watch executions!"

Jack: "I've deal with pedophiles before, they can't be rehabilitated."

Schiff: "Even golfers retire."

R228 LMAO!!

R229, indeed! I sometimes forget the show can be funny.

R230, most of the humor was given to Steven Hill, in his quiet deadpan.

Say what, r230?! Most of the wisecracks and humor were the province of one Lennie Briscoe!

DA Schiff's "deadpan" remarks were mostly just pointed observations.

[quote]Most of the wisecracks and humor were the province of one Lennie Briscoe!

"They were doin' the horizontal cha cha."

R232 they were dry observations, like "Who the hell is running the police department, Anita Bryant?"

[quote]A lot of Broadway actors were gainfully employed because of this series.

Almost every Bway actor had a L&O credit in their bio, r205. Chris Sieber famously had a "never been in a L&O" in his bio - until he was.

[quote]Orbach must have continued to work on the show after his cancer diagnosis.

[quote][R221] Yep, he did and everyone knew it. His final scene when he leaves the precinct had to be tough on everyone in the cast and crew.

I think Orbach's final scene was in a corridor outside a courtroom, r222. His voice was very weak, so they changed the scene so that court was in session, so that everyone had to be whispering.

I was at the opening night of 42nd Street, when the abominable showman David Merrick came on stage during the curtain call to announce that Gower Champion had died earlier in the day.

It was chaos, and Orbach, appalled that Merrick had done such a thing, called into the wings "Ring it in!", meaning the curtain.

I had such respect for him for that.

Here's the footage.

Merrick was such a an asshole. He knew the havoc it would create. He even went straight over to comfort Wanda Richert, who had been having an affair with Gower.

Orbach wasn't having it, and put an end to it.

It always seemed like a special treat when Philip Bosco was on set

R235 / R236 Thank you for the info and the clip!

After reading this thread I went back and started from season one, the actors are SO YOUNG! Silky, pretty, shiny with youth!

You can see the promise of the series searing right through the screen,

The 2nd episode could’ve happened last week in NYC, a straphanger vigilante, but a woman.

Richard Brooks, a fine specimen of a Black man- absolutely simmers across the screen in all his dark chocolately loveliness, MARY!

I dated a guy like him with such beautifully dark skin.

Jerry left the OG "L&O," but he kept working.

This is the scene to which r235 refers, in the later "extra" "Law and Order: Trial by Jury."

You're welcome, r238.

Thanks for that clip, r240. Within the comments was the backstory of Orbach's final scene, as told by the writer. Orbach's voice was weak, but they told him not to worry about it, as they could loop it later if his voice got stronger.

It never did, and so, after his death, they brought back the other actors, restaged and reshot the scene with everyone whispering.

It was an elegant solution.

Jerry the Romantic.

Worth the reading time:

Which episodes are must-streams?

R244, Be careful what you wish for! 😆😅😆😅

My ⭐⭐⭐ out of ⭐⭐⭐:

1-5---Happily Ever After.

5-2---Coma---AND ITS FOLLOW-UP of 6-15---Encore. (Larry Miller is terrific!)

6-23---Aftershock---DO NOT MISS!

10-18---Mega. (Michael McKean and Annette O'Toole)

12-3---For Love or Money. (Cathy Moriarty)

14-14---C.O.D.---LAST LENNIE BRISCOE!

⭐⭐ out of ⭐⭐⭐:

5-21---Purple Heart.

6-5---Hot Pursuit. (Amanda Peet)

6-17---Deceit.

7-14---Working Mom. (Felicity Huffman)

9-7---Venom.

⭐ out of ⭐⭐⭐:

3-21---Manhood.

4-17---Mayhem.

5-4---Family Values. (Sarah Paulson)

6-1---Bitter Fruit---INTRO of REY CURTIS.

6-4---Jeopardy. (DL fave Sada Thompson)

6-7---Humiliation.

6-16---Savior. (Ellen Pompeo)

6-19---Slave---Heart-breaking.

7-21---Passion. (Robert Foxworthy)

9-20---Empire. (Julia Roberts)

10-1---Gunshow---INTRO of ED GREEN.

10-13---Panic. (Tom Berenger).

Logan: "Hey, Lennie, you ever heard of Hulu?"

Briscoe: "Yes, Mike. I danced with a few of those grass skirts in my day."

Logan: "No, Lennie! It's a pay channel that's dramatizing our cases! With real actors!"

Briscoe: "I'm ecstatic I can give DeNiro a job."

Curtis: "Hey, Lennie! Deborah said she saw some show on TV yesterday with actors playing us solving cases!"

Briscoe: "Who's playing you, Rey---the newest member of Menudo?"

Curtis: "I think you just committed a venial sin, Lennie. No, it's some actor named Pedro Pascal."

Briscoe: "Pedro Pascal? Sounds like someone I once arrested."

Green: "Hey, Lennie! Our cases are now TV dramas! What are the odds?!"

Briscoe: "I'll tell you what the odds are, Ed. The ODDS are that we won't see a penny."

Green: "Damn, Lennie, I'll bet you're right, man."

Briscoe: "The House, Ed. Always go with the House."

There is a great episode with Sarah Paulson. She is young and pretty and mad femme. It’s a play on the Long Island Lotita. The guy is fucking hot as fuck, like a young Charlie Sheen.

Long Island Lolita*

R248, See r246.

May he rest in peace but can some of you cunts crate a Jerry Orbach fan thread.

R251 Attached

R248, that was a very good episode.

I just saw that episode where (spoiler alert) that Catholic woman reveals she put her baby in the church furnace to Rey , Lenny and Van Buren. My jaw dropped at that, I was just expecting her to reveal she hid her dead baby somewhere in the basement!

r254 These things happen.

R255, I forgive you, your daughter would have ended up on onlyfans today.

[QUOTE] I just saw that episode where (spoiler alert) that Catholic woman reveals she put her baby in the church furnace to Rey , Lenny and Van Buren. My jaw dropped at that, I was just expecting her to reveal she hid her dead baby somewhere in the basement!

It came up for me, but I’d seen it enough times already I just skipped it. Will take me a couple years to forget enough of that episode before I watch it again. That one sticks with you.

R254 one of the best episodes of the series.

There is also an episode where the couple buries their baby in a cooler, right?

R258, it really is. I knew from the beginning the woman was shady but I wasn't expecting it to be on THAT level. And I believe you are correct about the baby in the cooler, just don't remember which season that was.

The baby in the cooler was season 5, one of the first McCoy episodes. I just saw that one two weeks ago—another all-timer. (Spoiler Alert) The husband did it on his own, but the wife killed the baby and it turned out she had some syndrome where she couldn’t stop killing her children.

I also like the episode where the matriarch of a very wealthy family kills her husband because it turns out he was actually black but looked white, and she was racist.

The matriarch was played by a famous stage actress, but her name escapes me.

Does anuone know why Benjamin Bratt and Julia didn't work out? Benjamin is much hotter than her husband.

sam waterston is a high wasp of elite pedigree. groton boy.

Paul Robinette is back (Season 6). He just pressured the judge to step down since he apparently made comments in front of him and Ben Stone at a dinner, saying "all drug addicts should be round up and shot". The judge denied the claim but Robinette was willing to subpoena Stone to prove to back up his claims. The judge stepped down. This seems like a different Paul.

R262 I have no idea, but I think Julia likes to be a Boss, and I think her career was taking of, Oscar, etc. and BB was not. And He also seems like an Alpha Male type. Whatever she has with Moder it's definitely working.

R261, that sounds like the episode where the husband was passing as white and his second wife was pregnant. The ex-wife killed her because she was afraid that child would be black and everyone would know she had married, and had a son with, a black man. The ex-husband had to pay a shit ton in alimony to make the mother have custody of their mixed-race son.

R265, I think you are correct.

R266 Yes, that is it! A good episode

Another good episode is S6 E17 Deceit about a closeted lawyer who is murdered. Turns out his "jogging partner" is a married partner at his firm, and family secrets and skeletons come flying out. Great twist ending.

Peter Riegert and Mary Beth Hurt played the law partner and his partner, respectively. I believe Philip Bosco was the defense attorney.

I also love the S7 episode Divorce, with Jill Clayburgh and Tony Roberts, who play two divorce attorneys who cannot stand each other.

Just watched the original second episode first season , and Cynthia Nixon was really very pretty when she was young.

R271, she was also in Sidney Lumet's Prince of the City in the early 80s. Very pretty in that one. I'm not sure why but she looked so unattractive to me in Sex and the City.

R271. Lies. Bitch please. She was hardly pretty. She was slim and kind of attractive. Fix your fucking eyes.

R261 Love that episode. S Markeson deserved an Emmy for the police interrogation.

Patti Lupone was also brilliant in her guest role repeating an au pair accused of murder. I feel like it was shit she would really say in real life.

“Don’t throw the baby out with the bath water”

Representing*

There was a good one with Annette O'Toole and Michael McKean playing husband/wife "Tony Robbins" type personal coaches. I won't spoil the great twist ending.

Larry Miller as Michael Dobson in two episodes; S5 Coma and S6 Encore. He should've gotten an Emmy for either or both!

The fun of watching the older episodes from the 90's is seeing all the actors who eventually became famous. I'm amazed at how consistently good the series episodes are.

Mondays are an embarassment of riches for me. POPTV and BBC America were both showing L&O Mothership.

I watched the episode where the bank president has his daughter abducted by an actor whose name I can't remember. Then I watched the episode where Roger Rees killed a woman because she threateed to go to the board over his decision to exclude a student from the academy. The actor that abducted the daughter played a man having affair with the murdered woman. This same actor was in an episode where he was a chef who killed a woman because she decided not to go forward with a cooking show. Does anyone remember the actor's name? I think he was on a soap opera for a while; very handsome man.

One of my favorite episodes is a two-parter where a director kills his e-wife with a machete.

[quote]I also love the S7 episode Divorce, with Jill Clayburgh and Tony Roberts, who play two divorce attorneys who cannot stand each other.

This episode is actually in season 8. It's episode 16. It's now on Hulu.

I binged all night on Hulu and got to Season one episode 13. It's been a pleasure.

The annoying woman from Grey's Anatomy is on an episode on Season 6. It was a good one.

Season one, I think it was episode 14, Phillip Seymour Hoffman, and Samuel L. Jackson.

Oh man, I just saw the Patti Lupone episode in (I think) Season 6. Patti is aggressive. And she has the Kate Gosselin haircut!

So S. Epatha Merkison has played a crime victim who's kid was murdered and Jerry Orbach played a defense attorney for Shirley Knight when she killed her husband and his girlfriend. I'm just starting Season 2 so maybe episode 3-4?

R286 And I portrayed a stalker.

[quote]S. Epatha Merkison

Merkerson

R287 haven't seen that one.

R289 He’s a limo driver. Omg young Imperioli was so fkin hot. Many might not think so but so my type. The actor then went on to star in the series near its end before the reboot.

Yes, but mostly Imperioli "went on to star in" "The Sopranos."

R291 I was responding to a comment about guest appearances who then became regulars.

R286 Yes! Great catch(es).

"You know what, the hell with you! You ask any of our friends, those n*ggas are always tryin' to scam white girls, they all want a piece of this!"--some trashy guidette girl in Season 7, episode 3. I really was not expecting her to say the n word.

R294 That trashy little guidette is Bradley Cooper’s ex wife.

R295, holy shit, you're right! She must tuck really well...

R294, I just watched the episode on the WE Channel. The "n" word is bleeped out of the original 1996 airing!

R295, Jennifer Esposito. This was her first television appearance.

They really did Carey Lowell dirty, making her look like Pat Benatar with that haircut.

On Hulu there are a few episodes where they do not bleep out the N-Word

R299, that's where I saw the one with Jennifer Esposito using it.

OMG, Allison Janney a very very young Allison Janney and she is playing the PA of a soap opera star who got attacked. Season 2 later episode.

A young Tachina Arnold is in an episode based on Tawana Brawley. No she’s not the rape “victim”. It’s so fun seeing her cute and young with that strong New York accent.

R302, I like Tachina. She was good in her episode.

Season 1, Episode 11.

R302 r303

TICHINA.

R305, my bad. I like her. I never got why Gina was supposed to be the "pretty" one on Martin. She just had light skin. Gina was far prettier despite the fact that Martin acted like she was a gremlin.

I just watched the season 4 episode Nurture with Christine Baranski. Baranski is a cold and shrewd defense attorney who is defending a woman who kidnapped a little girl in a foster home.

Baranski is also just as tall as Michael Moriarty lol

R307, early in Season 2 Baranski played the wife of a slime ball Developer who her mafia brother's business partner. Her brother has her husband killed. Then she kills her brother! Talk about cold.

It was Season 1, she ends up dead, too I think

The daughter from 6 Feet Under was in quite a few episodes. In one she plays a special needs high school student who gets gang raped.

Wow, Sam Rockwell, Clare Danes, William S Macy, spotting the stars is a feature of binging the early seasons!

"They really did Carey Lowell dirty, making her look like Pat Benatar with that haircut."

She had that same haircut for years, before she was on the show

The incredible Gloria Foster. Brilliant actress!

I watched an episode yesterday where the arraigning judge was played by . . . BILLIE JEAN KING!!

OMG Elaine Stritch is a Lawyer in Season 3. Paul Sorvino gets shot and decides to take a desk job so Chris Noth gets a new Partner, JErry Orbach! Gotta say, after watching 2 and a half seasons, like 40 + episodes? Chris Noth is a terrible actor. And he's not good looking.

Roscoe Lee Browne and Wendell Pierce playing Nigerians. I am loving Law & Order. Talia Balsam playing a lawyer. I bet everyone on Broadway worked on t his series at some time or other.

Who is your favorite recurring opposing counsel? I like Shambala Green and Danielle Melnick. I also liked the little Jewish guy who was really smart and cagey. He asked a judge to recuse herself because he went to summer camp with her son or something. I recently watched the episode but can't recall his name.

I get a kick out of Tova Feldshuh as a defense attorney. Oy!

R317 Philip Bosco

Here comes the drug dealer's lawyer, Carmella Soprano/ Edie Falco.

R320 love when she spares with Jerry Orbach

Chris Noth was gorgeous.

I was on "L&O," too!

More on the OG characters:

r323 Thanks, Timmy. Gonna watch you now.

Celebrate, Dataloungers. Timmy plays the DB.

I heard (and believe) that if you were a struggling actor living in New York and could NOT be cast on L&O, it was time to go home.

I'm working my way through Season 3 right now and I have to confess, I have grown tired of Michael Moriarty. He just gets on my nerves.

Especially when he gets that self-righteous tone in a "No, Sir, I'm not kidding" way.

R327, After I saw "Spamalot" on Broadway, I recognized Sir Lancelot, aka Rick Holmes, in S3, E3: "Forgiveness."

R328 His arch in Season 4 is really good.

[quote]Timmy plays the DB.

Designated Bottom?

[quote]His arch in Season 4 is really good.

He did fuck scenes?

That hussy Jennifer Garner is trying to seduce a married Benjamin Bratt in Season 6, episode 23.

I just watched S5E5 White Rabbit about the women who was a radical Vietnam protester and a cop was killed.

She went into hiding for 23 years, married a CPA, had a nice upper middle class suburban life, campaigned for Pataki, etc.

Maybe "Elspeth" is the new "Broadway stars were here" show!

Season 2 = Christian Borle.

Sweet Jesus, Mercedes Ruehl is "using" a southern drawl as a judge in S19 E9, "By Perjury." I liked her better when she was a Jewish widow who had her husband killed.

r335 That was definitely a "ripped from the headlines" story.

Drug dealing wife uses her husband's top military clearance to smuggle dope into the country. The episode is completely believable which makes me wonder if it actually happened.

R339 which episode? Any famous guest stars?

R338, As the similar movie "The Company You Keep" was (Sarandon, Redford, Shia).

R340, S11, E18. "White Lie." I didn't recognize guest star names.

In some ways, I like Ben Stone more than Jack McCoy. The latter yells a lot.

Season 3, late episode, Sam Rockwell is back and he's playing a cop who has to testify against other cops, and boy does he look good with longer hair and that sort of pompadour swept to the side look.

R340 No famous guest stars. I'm looking for S and E on IMDB now. Hope to find it.

R340 Found it! S11 E18 White Lies

I love Jerry Orbach

R345, See r341.

R343, Sam Rockwell:

R347 Yikes! I'm sure you were trying to be helpful but give me a few minutes to catch up to the posts...

Aww Cynthia Harris as a lawyer. Even when younger she looked old! RIP

OMG. Melissa Leo was SO young. And David Krumholtz plays a young teenager who got molested. He couldn't have been more than 15 if that.

I agree with this that say Michael Moriarty was superior to Sam Waterson- so smug. Moriarty was excellent. I think a better actor too.

Agree with those* that say

I'm upset that they fired Richard Brooks. I liked him.

R354, he was fired? I wonder why. I didn't like what they did to his character when he returned for that one episode.

R355 Richard Brooks and Dann Florek were fired so the cast would have more women.

R356, interesting, I did not know that!

Today they'd just have one of them transition.

I just saw the one where a preteen boy testifies about being molested by a Michael Jackson-type celebrity. Turns out his parents offered him up to the celeb because they needed money for his younger brother's medical bills. It was heartbreaking.

R356 yep yep. I posted that thread.

R359 You sure that wasn’t SVU?

No, it was on the mothership. Waterston catches a discrepancy in dates when the boy is testifying. Once the boy realizes his parents sold him out, his heart is broken.

Which are the must watch eps?

There’s a good episode where Laura Linney is a white sex slave.

r364 As opposed to Julia Roberts, who would've played a black sex slave?

I didn't even know Julia was in a Law and Order episode. That was a great episode but it did feel like the plot was more nonsensical than it usually would be. Allegedly, that's because Julia made the writers change the script, constantly.

"Allegedly" R366 knows nothing; just making up shit.

Some of the actors are so young in the early episodes you almost don't recognize them. I'm still wading through Season 4. I'm trying to get used to perky Jill Hennessey'

OG Season 1 marathon NOW, WETV CHANNEL.

Episode 3 just started.

Do not miss Episode 5, 2:00 p.m.!

Ellen Pompeo manages to be annoying in every role she plays. Quite an accomplishment.

Season 1 marathon picks up on Tuesday 2/11, at 1:00 a.m. Episodes 20--22.

Season 2 marathon then begins Wednesday, 2/12, at 9:00 a.m. Episodes 1-2.

Picks up with Episode 3 on Sunday, 2/16, to end of season.

Who do you all think are the best ADAs and worst? I like Jamie, Abby and Connie the best. Worst is that one who lasted like one season and was killed.

Claire Kincaid (Jill Hennessy) is my favorite. The worst is the one who’s on there now.

R373, I haven't even watched the latest seasons. Are they still good? I really liked Mike Cutter and Connie.

I like Richard Brooks. Michael Moriarty is meh.

Richie Coster as Mark Bruner in Bodies, S14E1. Gave me chills. He was so fucking creepy as the serial killer playing with his lawyer.

R363:

SEE r245 and r246.

I probably would have gotten AIDS if I were a producer on this show.

r375 = Janet Reno

Nancy Marchand was great in an episode where she plays a wealthy woman who helps cover up the murder that her son committed

This thread has made me a Law & Order junkie (well, more than I already was). It's rather embarrassing to admit.

I'm watching an episode now focusing on Navy men up to no good. It's juicy!

That's one of the best episodes, r380. That and the episode in which Shirley Knight's ex-husband is murdered (shades of Betty Broderick) and Jerry Orbach plays her defense attorney are my favorites.

Husband and I watch 1-2 shows a night from season one when Hulu offered it, and offers up some of the most clever, sincere writing. I love that not all the endings tie up neatly, that there are only tendrils of wokeness, and it’s bittersweet to see the old NYC I was such a whore in.

We’re in season 3 now, filmed in 1992-3, I was a young 24 year old gayling with a tight hole.

R377 Do you have an Excel spreadsheet with all the mentioned episodes or do you keep track with pen and paper?

TODAY! SUNDANCE CHANNEL.

Some of the best!

4:00 p.m.---S1, E5: "Happily Ever After." (Dzundza, Noth, Roxanne Hart, Bob Gunton.)

5:00 p.m.---S2, E2: "The Wages of Love." Loosely like Betty Broderick. (Sorvino, Noth, Shirley Knight.)

9:00 p.m.---is an episode akin to the annulled first marriage of Joseph P. Kennedy II.---S8, E 16: "Divorce." (Orbach, Jill Clayburgh.)

10:00 p.m.---S12, E3: "For Love or Money." Suddenly wealthy widow. (Orbach, Martin, Cathy Moriarty.)

AND LENNIE'S LAST CASE, a great story, too:

FRIDAY, 11:00 a.m.---S14, E24: "C.O.D." Female "Strangers On a Train." (Orbach, Martin.)

^^^Friday's episode is on the POP CHANNEL.

R385, I'm also r386/r387. 😊

No Excel, haha! I just have 180 episodes, Seasons 1-14, recorded , so I went through them by description!

R385 😂. I love you for this. Too funny.

Episodes are on PopTV right now. I saw C.O.D. this morning and find that I can't watch them after Lennie walks out of the squad room. Anyone know the episode where Ed Green gets shot? That I can watch.

Been binge watching all morning. So the first time I ever I heard the cops mention NYU. I thought NYU didn’t exist in the L&O metaverse. I thought Hudson University was its fictional portrayal.

Currently watching a season 6 episode guest starring Victor Garber. Bradley Cooper was one lucky ho.

I enjoy Paul Sorvino's deadpan delivery.

R391, You wouldn't be able to pinpoint that episode, would you?

I always figured Hudson U. was a stand-in for Columbia U., r391, given how close Columbia is to the Hudson River.

Have they ever used the name "University of New York" for NYU?

R394 here. I read that it's the SVU offshoot that mentions NYU by name.

No, r395.

I just watched S18 E11 with Moira Kelly. She's the wife of a child psychiatrist/psychologist and kills him, thinking he's having a affair with an underaged female. He did the same to her when she was his patient. The look of horror on her face when she learns the tapes he was making were about her is priceless.

R398, I really like Moira. And she was great in her episode.

I said boom bomo boom

I can't regard any season past Lennie as worth my time.

R3 R4 put the DVDs on a local server… I use Jellyfin , others use Plex. Either way it’s kick-ass!

I like all the seasons (prefer Lenny of course) but I would watch any season, any cast. Even the ones everyone hates like the tall, lumpish woman detective ones, because the stories, the writing is always top notch. It’s my main objection to the current revival which I stopped halfway through the first season. The casting is terrible and the writing is worse. Is it still one? Has it gotten better?

I tend to agree, R401. I really have trouble watching after Ed Green left. I like Jeremy Sisto but not as a detective with Anthony Anderson.

R403, when was there a 'tall, lumpish woman detective'? Other than the woman who worked with Ed, and got in trouble alot with Van Buren, I don't remember another female detective. Serena Southerlyn was blond but she was an ADA . . . and a lesbian.

R404, that episode where Sisto hooks up with the Asian suspect was weird. But what was really weird is how it was all basically glossed over. I cannot imagine Van Buren being so comparatively cavalier with Lenny or Ed.

[QUOTE] I can't regard any season past Lennie as worth my time.

That’s a shame. You missed a lot of great Law & Order if you stopped with Briscoe’s death. And you know who would be the most disappointed in you for giving up on the show? Jerry Orbach. He didn’t want the program buried with him.

That’s the one, Milena Govich in Season 17. She wasn’t popular at the time.

I HATED her episodes, R407!! Resting Bitch Face to the nth degree.

Milena was horrible miscasting. Always looking like she came home from the nightclub.