'No Good Deed' on Netflix

I have to say it's equally refreshing and horrifying to see relatively normal looking aging celebrities. Lisa Kudrow, if she's had any work done, it's not obvious, and she looks like a normal woman in her early 60s. Ray Romano can cover any sign of turkey neck with his beard and he has the benefit of a fat face and Italian genes. Dennis Leary has had some work done but looks rough. Suited to the role though. Irish skin doesn't age well, especially on smokers. Linda Cardelinni still has a very expressive face and I'm glad to see she hasn't loaded it up with fillers. The boob job is unfortunate but very appropriate for the character. I hope the costumer is making it look worse for the show than it is IRL.

I'm 3 episodes in as well. Really enjoying it. Lots of lesbian stuff-not that that's bad. Shane from the L Word was actually pretty funny in the ones I watched.

[quote] O-T Fagbenle

I'm so there! Any nudity?

Kudrow was pushing this on 'The View' today. It was refreshing to see a 60+ year old actress who looked like she was naturally aging, and not a freak of cosmetic surgery like her co-stars from 'Friends'.

Finished it. O-T, in addition to being handsome and talented, is also completely charming. I'd love to see him in a smart romantic comedy.

And it occurred to me that Linda Cardellini got to play against type in the sort of character Christina Applegate could easily have done. Linda looked like she was having the time of her life playing a Botoxed Beverly Hills adjacent rich bitch.

Yep, O-T and Linda were the standouts. He’s just so damn cute, and it was nice to see her playing something fun like this role, instead of the usual weepy, tortured types she has been playing (Mad Men, Bloodline, Dead Like Me).

Linda, Lisa, and Ray Romano are all playing against their usual types, which is really interesting. O-T is a dreamboat - I love that man. Three episodes in, this reminds me somewhat of the first season of "Bad Sisters."

linda Lavin can do no wrong.

I beg to differ. Kudrow shows ginormous protruding cheek implants on Time Bandits. I like Lisa but... Girl please. Aging naturally?

Playing against type

Luke Wilson is still handsome but looking old. Another one aging naturally.

Do we really need 4 lesbians in one show? (Well 3 plus a bi.) This isn't Nyack or Northampton, it's Los Angeles.

Plus the only gay male character is a nasty stereotype.

I like Ray Romano but I have never cared for Lisa Kudrow. I watched the first 2 episodes but haven't gotten into it

I really enjoyed it. The way it was played and written (tight, unfolding clearly and sensibly, strong characters and relationships) should have been the format Palm Royale followed. I’m not a fan of Kudrow or Romano, but I actually like them in this. Cardellini was great; Denis Leary, despite looking like a wizened 80-year-old man with a bad dye job, held his own. I LOVED Anna Maria Horsford, as Fagbenle’s mother. The only people who weren’t very convincing to me were the actors playing the lesbian couple. They acted and sounded like teenaged tik-tokers, and when they mentioned being a doctor and an attorney, all their credibility was gone. Otherwise, it was really a fun ride.

We are up to episode three and really enjoying this series.

Can there ever be enough lesbian characters? I don’t think so.

A bit of trivia: In the show, the home’s Los Feliz location is a big part of its appeal. But in reality, the actual house is in Hancock Park. While Hancock Park likely has even pricier properties, Los Feliz has more name recognition, which adds to the fantasy for viewers.

I'm on episode 4 and I can't wait to get home and watch more. Lisa Kudrow looks fucking amazing and totally natural and she's clearly had stuff done. It's a shame Jen and Courtney didn't use her surgeon.

Shane from the L Word’s character is called Gwyneth later shortened to Gwen. A nod to her cousin Goop methinks

Is this suitable for elderly relatives during Christmas week?

great to see Abbi from Broad City too

No R19. There is a needlessly grisly scene in the first ep.

Man, Dennis Leary looks ROUGH.

R19 perfectly so

R19, by elderly, do you mean 65 - 80? Or older? It’s a bit dark and sad. I think my 87 year old mom would not enjoy it.

My 84 yr old mom loved it.

[quote] O-T Fagbenle

Who?

R22 It appears that he's lost his MA accent.

"I don't know who I am, I could have serial killer blood in my veins. I could be from Florida!" Ha, ha, ha, ha. Love this show.

Don’t know what I’m missing but I’ve made it through six eps and find it boring and most of the twists forced.

R24, 80 yr old dad. He's tolerating it.

Did Lisa Kudrow have a stroke? She struggles to get out her lines. She seems one to two beats off.

She's always been like that. That's the thing.

Lisa’s acting is quite mannered.

Lisa Kudrow and Ray Romano are 61 and 67 in real life. I was thinking of the characters at least as a little younger.

[quote]Don’t know what I’m missing but I’ve made it through six eps and find it boring and most of the twists forced.

Thanks. I almost made it through the first episode, but decided I'd rather watch the new season of Lidia Poet.

I don't like Linda Cardellini in this, and I loved her in Dead Like Us.

There aren't any likable characters on this show except the black family. So they raised a shit head son who was a burglar and then accidentally killed him and didn't just tell the cops? And then Kudrow thinks she kills his brother too? What a cunt, why would Romano stay with her? No wonder her other kid hates her.

Famous last words:

"I KNOW I'll be nominated for a guest star Emmy for this!"

Man, this is a great series. I rarely make it through an entire streaming series. I usually bail after the fourth episode, but this one hooked me. I think the 30-minute format helped but this is so good, I think I could make an exception. It reminds me of the first couple of seasons of Desperate Housewives--good humor with some twists. I love O-T but he seems wasted here. Anna-Maria Horsford is the only thing about that couple that's interesting. I have one more episode to go.

It took a couple of episodes to grab on. I liked the twists. Complicated but not too complicated.

The establishing shots are Los Feliz but the block definitely isn't. I await the discovery of the Hancock Park address of the house exterior. Someone's tried to place it on Fox Hills Dr but that one is not a corner lot.

No payoff. A slog.

Yeah the lesbian couples' dialogue is just garbage. "Fuck a doodle doo" Someone wrote that fucking gem of a line, and the person who wrote it probably thinks they're clever and smarter than you!

The house is located in Hancock Park, not Los Feliz.

I think Linda Cardellini did okay with this role.

However, I'll never understand her appeal to those who say she's hot or gorgeous or whatever. Her lower jaw wrinkles are off-putting to me, and she's had them practically her entire career, so it's not just aging.

I really liked the series; it kept me entertained all last night.

I like the sleuthing R43

I gave up after episode 4.

Did not recognize Linda as Margo…. All that hideous work done. Sad.

I never understood why these buyers were all so fixated on this one property.

I get it, you found a place you really like. But it’s a highly competitive market in LA. Surely you are continuously looking.

But is that was the only problem with this series…

There was nothing realistic about the plot or the characters.

As looks go I found Ray Romano has aged very well.

Stupid show.

[quote]As looks go I found Ray Romano has aged very well.

Like a lot of comedians he's a pretty good dramatic actor.

R29 Same with me. I'm six episodes in, and bored as hell. Don't know if I can finish this one.

R53, I finished it and it bored the hell out of me.

Who bought the house?

No one -- maybe in season 2!

Lisa Kudrow looks like she’s wearing a smooth-skinned mask. The skin around her eyes is very dark and wrinkled, just like the area around her lips. Her acting has always been too quirky for me. It seems all those Friends actors developed individual quirks that they can’t shake when they play other roles, and it’s really annoying. Dennis Lear, though he basically plays himself in everything, he wasn’t bad—but he looks like an 80-year-old man with a bad dye job. The lesbian couple was poorly cast, because those two actresses had no chemistry and were unconvincing as an attorney and a doctor—they acted like a couple of teenaged air-heads. Anna Maria Horsford was great. Anyway, I mildly enjoyed the series, for what it was.

I really wanted to like it, but found it pretty dull. The big twist as to who shot the son fell flat for me.

Also, I love Lisa, but in the wrong role she's really, really bad. And she was all wrong in this.

[quote]Anna Maria Horsford was great.

As she was in "Hacks," playing Jean Smart's buddy who never advanced past the Sacramento Chuckle Hut where they got their starts. Gave me new appreciation for her versatility.

This ain’t seeing a season two.

It had some possibilities, but after four episodes I couldn't watch more. The plot was ridiculous without being clever at all, the characters without dimension. It felt like someone had blown the dust of a Marc Cherry "Desperate Housewives"-type concept from two decades ago. Above all, it felt like a slightly better version of the dumbed down broadcast network TV fare of the start of the century.

There’s an entwined pretzel of sugary twee emotion enveloping the movie that is supposed to tug at heartstrings, but winds up being annoying. Some of the plot mechanisms are as flimsy as a slice of Alpine Lace, Agatha Christie would be aghast. The wall plastering over was ridiculous.

Anyone that comes from a broken family will quickly recognize and feel for the characters, but then you realize you were roped in. Some of the short fused behavior was triggering, my mom was just like the Lydia character- aloof, paranoid and morose.

At the end the happy and sad don’t really balance out, and it’s hard to feel sorry for all these wealthy people in the world we live in today.

[quote]There’s an entwined pretzel of sugary twee emotion enveloping the movie that is supposed to tug at heartstrings, but winds up being annoying.

Oh, GOD. Entwin THIS pretzel, Roger fucking Ebert.

I finished it, but I didn’t really like it much. And it’s the first time I’ve not liked Lisa Kudrow in something.

R62, you know it’s not a movie, right?

The lesbians got the house, btw.

What a truly horrible show this was. I actually fell asleep during the last half of the last episode and had to play it back to see who did what. Ridiculous.

Thanks for reassuring me, guys -- I thought it was just me.

This show doesn't know what it wants to be when it grows up. Even if I were watching the lesbians having sex, I'm not sure I could continue this.

Bailing at episode 2. And it's a shame, because I loved Men of a Certain Age.

It was really fucking odd that these people wouldn't just tell the cops that the shooting was an accident. They never even got an autopsy? I thought autopsies were fucking mandatory unless someone dies in a hospital, and especially if someone dies in an unsolved murder. That they would let someone blackmail them to the tune of 80k of money they don't even have, is fucking asinine. Also, their daughter would certainly need therapy, besides just singing twee songs in coffee shops. And why the fuck was Kudrow all shaky from it? And yes, the lesbians were not believable at all. If the subject matter hadn't been as sad as their only son's death, this show would have worked a lot better. It was just too serious a subject to be on a comedy show.

I wanted to like it but just couldn't. I care for the black family, but not for anybody else. For starters, as accomplished as Romano and Kudrow are, I don't think they have any chemistry. I cannot see them as a couple. I would probably care more for the characters if they had redeeming qualities. But they don't have any. Not that they are super-nasty people, but there isn't anything appealing either. In my opinion there should be at least one character to root for, even if it's a love-to-hate character. Not seeing one in this show. I find them all just a bit depressing.

Bailed after Episode 6. It just became to much effort to watch something I found unremarkable.

[quote] Linda Cardelinni still has a very expressive face and I'm glad to see she hasn't loaded it up with fillers

You're batshit crazy R1. That opening shot she has so much filler I thought it was Jane Fonda. That being said the show was ok, it could have been so much better.

Not really a reason to call the poster batshit crazy. Jeez...

r1 ,it's not a boob job ,it's a lot of padding and pushing up and glossy makeup on the skin.

You do you R73.

You do you.

I wanted to like this show.

But I couldn’t.

Why did they set it in and have establishing shots of Los Feliz? Better known area? The house is in Hancock Park and looks it.

I really want to watch this but my dislike of Denis Leary is so strong, I can't pull the trigger.

R78 I hate Ray Romano with an equal amount of hatred but he became easy to tolerate. Maybe he's the reason it wasn't as good as it could have been.

Leary was on Fallon recently and looked like bad plastic surgery gone wrong. Not to mention the incredibly bad dye job on his very old hair and the eye shadow. It was as if he were auditioning for a re-do of Dark Shadows.

That’s a rug.

R79 Leary stole Bill Hicks persona after Bill died AND is known as a joke thief. If you could tolerate Romano, maybe I can tolerate Leary.

Don't always like his comedy, but because of Dennis Leary's support of firefighters, I'll always have a soft spot for him.

From Wikipedia

[quote]Leary Firefighters Foundation: On December 3, 1999, six firefighters from Leary's hometown of Worcester were killed in the Worcester Cold Storage Warehouse fire. Among the dead were Leary's cousin Jerry Lucey, as well as Leary's close childhood friend, Lt. Tommy Spencer. In response, the comedian founded the Leary Firefighters Foundation. Since its creation in the year 2000, the foundation has distributed over $2.5 million (USD) to fire departments in the Worcester, Boston and New York City areas for equipment, training materials, new vehicles and new facilities. Leary won $125,000 for the foundation on the game show Who Wants to Be a Millionaire. A separate fund run by Leary's foundation, the Fund for New York's Bravest, has distributed over $2 million to the families of the 343 firemen killed in the September 11 attacks in 2001, in addition to providing funding for necessities such as a new mobile command center, first-responder training, and a high-rise simulator for the New York City Fire Department's training campus. As the foundation's president, Leary has been active in all of the fundraising. In the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans, Leary donated over a dozen boats to the New Orleans Fire Department to aid in rescue efforts in future disasters. The foundation also rebuilt entire NOLA firehouses.

Also, the idea that Romano and Leary are brothers is a stretch.

I could buy Romano and John Turturro as brothers...

R83 I understand but I look at that as Leary's buying a fanbase because of that series he was in.

R84 And how is that two brothers who grew up in Los Feliz both have New York accents?

The show was a mess. Plot holes you could drive a truck through, characters doing things that not even insane people would attempt, plot twists that do nothing to propel the story along. It's hard to believe this was put together by the same folks who created "Dead to Me."

Just awful, and a waste of a talented cast.

[quote]R24 by elderly, do you mean 65 - 80?

Now, [italic]excuse me - -

R88 Agreed. The fucking fact none of them looked at the autopsy or noticed the other bullet...the fact they'd rather have their kid classified as a robber and open to people talking about him in death, then just tell the cops it was an honest mistake...come on!

R90 And how inept were the cops? Like they wouldn't find two shell casings at the scene of the crime?

And what house in an affluent neighborhood like that doesn't have surveillance cameras? Like they wouldn't have captured Linda Cardellini chasing the son down the street and shooting him in the doorway?

It seemed, shall we say, quickly written.

R91 Exactly! the cops sucked, also the whole, "we didn't want an autopsy" because they thought their kid did it, but the cops don't give a fuck what you want, and they do one anyhow, and they look for spent shell casings. And the whole misdirection of Lisa Kudrow and her stupid, shaky hands was lame. And why exactly was the daughter so pissed at her? I mean, ffs, the daughter is the one who killed someone!

R93 I could go on and on. Then they throw in Linda Lavin, who you think has all the dirt and will crack the case, then in the next episode, the characters just dismiss her as a nutcase. What was the point?

Oh, and how in the world was Lisa Kudrow surprised by the return of her piano? Like her husband and her brother could have moved it back into the house without making a sound?