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To Have Been Seen at 12 West vs Studio 54

I wasn't there in the 1970's/80's. I'm a 90's millennial. And, the info I have collected about the subject is mostly anecdotal, from one person, and a book titled "Life and Death of the New York Dancefloor". But, because of my imagination and whatnot, this is a thought.

Studio 54 was a lot like Charli XCX LA show night 1 in L.A. It was equivalent to a place where we see today's influencers and celebrities gathered. And, that place was Kia Forum on October 16, 2024.

Charli was so taken off by it, she even asks the audience mid-song, "are you f*cking joking?" because of the crowd's underwhelming energy and lack of presence.

Tik Tok from my perspective made LA night 1 out to be a night of influencers not knowing the lyrics and sort of standing around half-interested in the art and talent right in front of them.

So, as I am listening to sounds of 1977, I'm doing the "12 West Shuffle" in my kitchen. The 12 West Shuffle is a simple 4 on the floor step side to side, with a bit of flourish up top because of the scarcity of space all around. I began to think about what it was like to dance at 12 West. Crowded. The dancefloor was packed, and dancing was not jumping up and down in place. Shoulder to shoulder. Hot, but global warming wasn't like it is today, so probably relative to, but still cooler than, today. No phones. Dancing well into the morning. Most were tripping rather than drinking.

54, however, is what is glorified today when we look back at disco and gay and nightlife. Some might argue 54 was the pinnacle of disco. (The Saint was the pinnacle of disco, the Vatican of disco.) But, in my opinion, back in those years, 12 West embodied disco. And, it was the gathering place of the vanguard of disco. To have seen and been seen at 12 West would have been much more invaluable to those on the scene at that time, than to be seen at 54.

Now, am I comparing apples to oranges while making a vague comparison to bananas? Maybe.

Tldr; Studio 54 is to Charli XCX LA night 1 what 12 West is to Berghain

by Anonymousreply 9November 30, 2024 6:36 PM

I feel like OP might be having a reaction to some bad clams. It’s causing him/her/they/fuckoff to write gibberish.

Can you feel your tongue, OP?

by Anonymousreply 1November 30, 2024 7:49 AM

R1 It's bad yams, shellfish and I don't vibe, it's the snotty mucous and putrid taste for me.

by Anonymousreply 2November 30, 2024 7:58 AM

You need some down time, OP.

by Anonymousreply 3November 30, 2024 8:03 AM

R3 It's giving, not serving. And she's not in need, okwayyy?! Maybe she is, and maybe you're right. Maybe slowing down for the rest of the group to catch up is needed....

by Anonymousreply 4November 30, 2024 8:22 AM

I thought that there was something wrong with me, not being able to understand what in the fuck the op just wrote.

It simply didn't make any sense.

I was reading words, but I was unable to comprehend what the fuck I was reading.

Thank you all for confirming that the op is not speaking English, and merely writing gibberish.

by Anonymousreply 5November 30, 2024 8:56 AM

OP, Google Mel Cherin, he wrote a wonderful book and was the godfather of disco. He would come by the shop I worked at and was a record producer that owned Paradise Garage. I’m too young for those places but as a teen got into The Saint at Large last Black Party and Moon Shadows. It really was a different era. I was also a club kid all through the 90’s so Limelight, Twilo , and Boy’s Life were my regular haunts.

by Anonymousreply 6November 30, 2024 9:06 AM

Put the pipe down love.

by Anonymousreply 7November 30, 2024 9:35 AM

Berghain?

by Anonymousreply 8November 30, 2024 1:09 PM

You left a lot of shit out and I don’t feel like filling it in for you.

by Anonymousreply 9November 30, 2024 6:36 PM
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