Cynthia Erivo ‚— hoo boy

Can she PLEASE go somewhere- ANYWHERE

I’m sure the key grip and the best boy cherished her attention.

This bitch.

I wonder what it is that annoys you so much about her, OP - given there are numerous threads

Based on the last paragraph of OP's post, she's clearly fashioning herself after Streisand who was so "inquisitive" about filmmaking during the production of FUNNYGIRL, veteran director William Wyler jokingly (I think) quipped to a crew person, "You'll have to forgive Barbra. This is her first time directing a movie."

Finally someone I can work with and be seen by. Not like that horrible AnnE Hathaway and Blake Lively.

Certainly her ego is undeservedly limitless.

"I have a real sort of ownership of who I am and what I want. I have some control over how things happen for myself, which is a really powerful thing,"

Red wine vinaigrette on that word salad please

[quote]I wonder what it is that annoys you so much about her, OP - given there are numerous threads

I am MAKING SPACE for her, r4, and GIVING HER HER FLOWERS.

Cynthia Erivo maybe the one actress that Datalounge and LipstickAlley despises equally. 😂

She and Ariana are getting (deservedly) dragged and meme-d into oblivion by the internet for this deranged press tour.

God I am so sick of looking at her face everywhere

She sounds like someone desperately trying to be profound yet only sounding like your drunk embarrassing aunt that won’t go home.

PSB describe the phenom

Wow r11 did you watch that whole video. Now that is what you call insidious. It starts off talking about the unhinged Wicked Press tour and then goes into railing against diversity and the demonization of the white man.

So that’s how it happens, because I was hooked and listening to it, and agreeing with it - then WHAM.

Annoying as fuck, ugly as sin. When is she not whining about something?

I think she's tremendous!

It’s possible to be observant on film sets without being intrusive.

I’m not railing against you at all R11, but if someone wants to understand the slow boil of how someone becomes a Trump supporter and the rise of MAGA, watch R11’s video. And then multiply it by 100s of videos people watch about things they are interested in that only serve to guide them down this path.

^ it takes something we can all agree on that Cynthia is is insufferable and turns into a manifesto against diversity.

No, you queens aren't racist at all..

R21 they aren’t racist. She is insufferable. I’m black and find her insufferable. On one hand she is always talking about being proud to be an outsider yet on the other hand you still have a woman starving herself (ozempic probably) to fit into the Hollywood machine. She’s all nose ring and sinew.

I don't think she is ugly, more striking. But her grooming is aggressive and not pleasant. She was pleasant!! on Seth Meyers recently. I think the issue people have is grandness. And relatively young.

The entertainment figure she minds me of is Miss Calypso e.g Dr. Prof. Maya Angelou. As a liberal I was trained to tolerate it in a person of colour, I mean maybe tolerate it a bit more than a white grandee for example.

But people of any race have a limit for pretension.

Gore Vidal was so pretentious and grand but he didn't get massacred for it as much as James Baldwin, for example.

It does feel racist for everyone to pile on about Erivo's pretension.

There's no modulation allowed for Erivo. That's what's racist.

And that's before we start getting into the misogyny around here. Lots of Mommy issues proliferated around here by the self-indulgent.

Billy Porter has been mentioned for comparison purposes. Billy Porter is mostly very pleasant in interviews - which is the only way I know him besides his performances, and his PAP strolls in outrageous fashion. So he's super grand and histrionic but I mostly get a kid out of his shtick. When his performances are good I enjoy them. He had several very good scenes in Pose, in my opinion, and was overall good. When his performances fail - like the solo tour, I can kinda of laugh and say, oh well, he's one who shouldn't be too much in control and direct himself. There are plenty of entertainers like that.

[quote]Can she PLEASE go somewhere- ANYWHERE

You first.

If she had light skin and bleach blonde hair with that talent you Queens would be shooting loads on the back of the IMAX seat in front of you. It's crystal clear what your real problem with her is.

I didn’t even know she was “queer”. I just think she’s incredibly annoying.

Blocked posters galore on this thread.

R30.

I knew nothing about her until she started appearing in TV ads everywhere and I find her whole “look at me, I am edgy “ antics kind of annoying..felt the same way about Lady GaGa when she was doing her schtick 2009-2011. However, I saw the WICKED film on Thursday night and thought that she was spectacular in the film. There are some performers who you just know would be exhausting to be around and she seems to be one of them….

How was Bowan Yang, r32? Does Ethan Slater look as ugly in the movie as he does in photos?

I don’t have much sympathy for people whining about being an outsider when they dress to repel. She clearly WANTS to alienate people. That’s her choice. But then don’t cry over feeling excluded.

[quote] No, you queens aren't racist at all..

They're not racist.

Well, not ONLY racist. The fat nellie prisspot shopbottoms at DL are hangry about their lives, and bitterly hate any number of people - especially successful people. Gay men of any success level, fraus and of course, uppity black women.

Her skin color and gender have nothing to do with it. To look at someone so obviously neurotic, needy and manipulative and think that anyone who doesn’t like her is a racist or misogynist reveals more about you than it does about the targets of your hate.

Find her very intense too but I just read she was paid $1 million for her role to Ariana’s $15 million, doesn’t seem very fair. Plus, even worse, supporting players Michelle Yeoh and Jeff Goldblum got paid double her fee at $2 million a piece.

[quote] To look at someone so obviously neurotic, needy and manipulative and think that anyone who doesn’t like her is a racist or misogynist reveals more about you than it does about the targets of your hate.

Sounds like freshman-level gaslighting to me.

In the category of "You make mommy drink! You make mommy hit you!"

Right.

[backs away]

She is exhausting.

She and Ariana sound like they've been in therapy for ages with all the nonsense they spew. Things like: "I acknowledge that you feel that way and I am so happy to have you in my safe space".

Massively out of touch and weird.

Cynthia Erivo is the reason we lost the election.

Cynthia Erivo came to my house and kicked my dog.

Is there anything in the world that doesn't make Cynthia feel unseen, unacknowledged, unpersoned,, unheard, unappreciated?

I am not spending a damn dime to see that Green Bitch.

Is Cynthia the new Julie?

I know that some black American actresses are not happy with those comments she made a few weeks ago about their perceived lack of talent.

[quote] Find her very intense too but I just read she was paid $1 million for her role to Ariana’s $15 million, doesn’t seem very fair. Plus, even worse, supporting players Michelle Yeoh and Jeff Goldblum got paid double her fee at $2 million a piece.

Fair is what you can command. Ariana has a huge fan base, Cynthia doesn't. Yeoh and Goldblum are established stars, so ditto. If Cynthia was Beyonce she would have gotten 25M.

The pay disparity doesn't make sense. Erivo is co-lead. And she's not just some unknown they picked up off the street.

You just don't need to say this shit out loud. It's excessive and it shows you don't have much control, social boundaries, or even social intelligence.

The press build-up for this thing has been exhausting.

It did NOT need this much press - Wicked is very well known and loved. She acts like she conceived the play and role - tons of actresses have played this.

Just be humble and say that you hope you did a good job. And there's no way she got only $1 million - she may have got a percentage. That's bullshit.

She "identifies as queer"? There's no way those fingernails have ever been near a vagine.

R49 Clearly, you know nothing about how the entertainment INDUSTRY works.

R52 is correct and you can actually Google both salaries. Ariana Grande has 400 million followers and has sold millions and millions of records. Of course she was the highest paid in the cast. She's the draw apart from the musical itself.

[quote] I know that some black American actresses are not happy with those comments she made a few weeks ago about their perceived lack of talent

She also mocked Black American culture a few years ago but takes any opportunity to play their cultural/historical icons in films and mini-series (Harriet, Aretha, .etc).

That's one reason why LipstickAlley loathes her.

Who else can't stand to look at her with that disgusting bull ring hanging off her nose?

If she only got paid 1 million, her agent probably can’t stand her either. They could have at least gotten another 500K for “Oscar Nominated.””

Wicked ‘s budget was $150 million. They probably spent more on chicken wraps than they did for Cynthia.

I'm surprised the pay disparity between Erivo and Grande is so large. But I suppose if they'd got someone lesser known to play Glinda, there'd have been more in the budget for Erivo.

I mean, $1m is a massive sum of money anyway, but $15m is crazy money. Is she even that good? She's more of a singer than an actress, though obviously there's crossover.

1 Million sounds like a lot of money. But it's not like Cynthia is pocketing 1 million dollars. 30% probably comes of the top to pay her team - agents, managers, publicist, et al.. So she is left with 700K. Assuming she just has taxes and nothing else that needs to be taken out, you are talking about 480K maybe. And for a role of a lifetime in a major motion picture as a co-lead that you have to do months and months of publicity for, 480K doesn't feel like a lot in comparison to what other actors normally get paid for that type of work.

[quote] She "identifies as queer"? There's no way those fingernails have ever been near a vagine.

You know she and Lena Waithe are a couple, right? The latter cheating on her ex wife, no less.

Two things can be true simultaneously: Erivo can be exhausting personally while delivering an amazing performance.

I realize that’s probably too subtle for the normal DL binary thinking, but hey, it’s a day that ends in -y.

You tell them VOTN!

Let me tell you about Cynthia Erivo.

I thought the characters were meant to be teenagers in the musical

"Cynthia Erivo and partner Lena Waithe first went public with their relationship in 2022 after their close friendship turned into something more."

She is extremely talented and has a right to a bit of an ego. Focus on how you look in the mirror rather than fixating on her - I'm sure the people around you are terrorized by your appearance in one way or another. You may be able to do something about it.

[quote]is correct and you can actually Google both salaries.

You're an idiot if you think they published those ladies salaries.

You're the fucking idiot. I just Googled it moron. Try it and it comes right up $15 million and 1 million

[quote] You know she and Lena Waithe are a couple, right? The latter cheating on her ex wife, no less.

I remember that and it was messy. I hope Cynthia realizes that you could lose them the way you got them because Lena seems like one problematic lesbian.

Ok but have you all taken in the lyrics of "Defying Gravity" and really held space with that?

I don't know, I've worked in and around the film industry for years. For the most part I feel that actors should be seen and not heard unless it is about the work. I give two fucks about your personal beliefs, I want to hear about what it was like to film that one scene, you know? Actors all tend to be on some fucking spectrum or living in their own reality most of the time. I like the ones you can talk to about gardening or cooking with.

She's a lot easier to look at as Elphaba, and it has nothing to do with her skin color. Try eyebrows, hair and no bullring through her enormous schnozz.

She was delightful on Graham Norton last Friday and shared the spotlight graciously.

Not to mention she was seemingly at a normal, non-anorexic weight during filming than she is now.

R71 “Nothing to do with her skin color”. (Code for ‘I’m not a racist’). Then immediately goes onto point out “her enormous schnozz.” (Code for: ‘fooled you, I am a racist’).

This is why I'm out when my subscription expires. I didn't leave the US to have you people's racism, let alone pay for it.

Trump should fast track her for deportation.

r74, there is something wrong with you to think that pointing out her enormous schnozz is racist. Owen Wilson, Bette Midler, Sarah Jessica Parker and Lea Michelle also have enormous noses. They don't go out of their way to draw attention to them with an ugly nose ring.

R77 look out micro aggressions and then get back to me x

R72 I suspect that was only because she was sat next to Nicole Kidman.

I already mentioned Dr. Prof. Maya Angelou whose grandness was preposterously grande and based on what? I also collaborated a couple times with Toni Morrison who was very grand but also very nice, and she had a lot of talent. Erivo has a lot of talent. Is she nice? Or not?

Reading backwards. See, R72 said the same I said about Erivo on Seth Myers. She was pleasant. She swept into the room like Diana Ross in the Mahogany cat walk scenes, but hey.

Listening to the soundtrack and Jesus Christ, Erivo on"The Wizard and I" is thrilling.

What was she in before this? People keep talking about her like I’m supposed to know who she is

[quote]Listening to the soundtrack and Jesus Christ, Erivo on"The Wizard and I" is thrilling.

She's a much more technically proficient singer than Menzel, and it really shows in a couple of songs.

These two are annoying AF but they do have talent

I didn't know Platt could sing that way.

Ughhhh! That dyke.

Does she have Alopecia?

Like Michael Jackson had vitiligo !

R28 “you Queens would be shooting loads on the back of the IMAX seat in front of you”.

So that’s what the commotion was in the Alton Street IMAX last Wednesday!

It was like a bathhouse in there.

[quote] She is extremely talented and has a right to a bit of an ego. Focus on how you look in the mirror rather than fixating on her -

Oh for fuck's sake: save it for church, Preachy. This is Datalounge.

I think it's hilarious that R77 goes on to point out three people with Jewish backgrounds who happen to have enormous schnozes too, to prove he isn't a racist. HA! It doesn't get much funnier than that.

Nose rings look like snot hanging off the nose.

After that performance in Wicked, I don't care if she's the biggest cunt who ever cunted. She earned the right. And quite frankly, all actors are pretentious and too much.

You could tell them apart r43?

[quote]You're the fucking idiot. I just Googled it moron. Try it and it comes right up $15 million and 1 million

But I Googled it! I Googled it!

God I hate musicals. Chicago and Moulin Rouge are the ONLY musicals I enjoyed. Will I hate this too?

She is a proud graduate of the Kevin Sessums Finishing School.

Universal Studios is lying.

@R8 she sounds like DL fave Stephen.

Cynthia is a great performer but for me it will always be the way she intentionally broke up the marriage between Lena Waithe and her wife that will always have me looking at her sideways.

I thought Lena Waithe cheated constantly on her wife?

She looks like poop.

A breakup takes two. Waithe is as guilty as Erivo.

[quote]The way I dress is innately queer.

Dafuck out of here with this shit.

She makes Billy Porter look subdued.

Cynthia is kind. Cynthia is smart. Cynthia is important.

Someone MUST write a Dr. Sam Airport Luggage Thief Brinton musical and hire Erivo to cross dress as a male cross dresser to play Sam.

LOVE her - what a great performance

WHEN she wins the Oscar for "Wicked" she will an EGOT.

I think she's fabulous. I'm holding space for a new love interest, if she wants to join the AJLT universe.

Saw Cynthia on Graham Norton last night. She was sane, sober and analytical.

I’m afraid the psychobabble is put on for the American GenZ audience.

She’s an actor after all, y’all!

Why don't the people who give Ariana and Cynthia grief for being homewreckers ever say the same about Britney Spears?

She infamously stole Kfed away from his pregnant fiance and took her current ex con away from his wife and six kids . She even allegedly helped him kidnap some of them

But you can't say shit about Saint Britney I guess

Shit about Britney.

[quote] Why don't the people who give Ariana and Cynthia grief for being homewreckers ever say the same about Britney Spears?

Maybe they don’t follow Britney Spear’s life with the same degree of attention that you do.