Anderson Cooper in conversation with ****TRIGGER WARNING*** Andrew Sullivan

Is he shilling a book or something? He should go back to the doghouse he was in. He was dead wrong on Iraq, and is a hypocrite. Virtually Normal indeed.

I am staying in my silo. Fuck you.

Ooh, Albino chats up Milky Loads. I'm sure a scintillating conversation!

Living in DC, I've seen Sullivan numerous times around town and he once cruised me (on a Metrobus) many years ago. Oddly, I don't recall seeing him with other people and don't really think of him as having friends. Apparently he was a terrible manager at The New Republic, although he shared his condo with fellow TNR writer Jacob Weisberg who now shills digital media of some sort with Malcolm Gladwell. I forgot that Sully had been married---the hubby is now a pilates instructor in LA and previously had been a health club shop bottom and a sometime bit part actor. He has a Substack which probably needs customers so coming out about his grief and whatever to Anderson "I'm not that rich, but I'm annoying" Cooper seems like a smart move, although I can't imagine many peole want to read Sully's contrarian schtick anymore, it having gone out of style around the time his love of milky loads and "Bell Curve"-approved BBC became known.

He was wise to leave the UK. They'd have rightfully chewed him up and spit him out (and may have).

If he came back would be annihilated for his American accent.

They don't care about that in the UK as much as the US does.

God, Andrew Sullivan... I read his first blog religiously, was it decades ago? I tired of him when I realized what a mistake the Bush II invasion of Iraq was a cluster-fuck of the first order. Sully did not, he kept at it, shilling for the the invasion.

He then went away from my world. I knew he settled down in P'town and got married, didn't know the marriage had cum (come?) to an end. I love this description of the ex "the hubby is now a pilates instructor in LA and previously had been a health club shop bottom and a sometime bit part actor."

Your mother dying is usually sad; if Andrew and Anderson sat down to discuss, sounds fine. Anyone thing Anderson's live-in nanny Ben fucked Andrew afterwards? Did he do it while Anerson watched?

Similar experience.

I on his Windows oh the World, I’m the Daily Dish, once.

*won

^^^ I remember those days.

Chiefly for the “Ask Anything” segments and the Dina Martina interviews.

He's so slimey and manipulative - I really think Sullivan is a sociopath.

Completely self-absorbed, purposefully contrarian for likes/views and controversy, then wraps himself up in being such a believer in the Catholic Church?

He's not a serious person.

He's in the same vein as Candace Owens (although not as bad - she's stupid) - getting attention and clicks for being an outspoken gay conservative. Yet finding comfort and safety within blue cities and the gay population.

I hate him so much. And then equating his own HIV positive result with people who got it BEFORE WE KNEW HOW IT WAS TRANSMITTED! When he got it in 93, everyone fucking knew.

Next up, Anderson Cooper in conversation with Mrs. Dan Savage, Terry Miller, as they discuss parenting and being a positive role model in your child’s life.

It gets better!

He and Ross Douthat should do a podcast for NY Times.

[QUOTE]grieving his mother's recent death

It's been over five years.

I honestly believe the man is all hat, no cattle, and charmed his way into positions that people regretted putting him in. I think the low profile suited him.

Was his ass still itchy?

Jesus Christ, is Anderson going to have Kevin "stolen valor" Sessums on to speak for our collective experience of the AIDS crisis next? What a fucking asshole Sully is to media blitz himself on this topic when he used his platforms to shit on people on the front lines of the AIDS crisis, then barebacked wayyyy before U=U was proved in clinical trials. CNN and Cooper should be ashamed of themselves.

Sullivan gives us a synopsis. Interesting that his parents divorced after 50 years of marriage and the mother was mentally ill. I'd forgotten about his green card.

He doesn’t have an American accent.

[quote] although he shared his condo with fellow TNR writer Jacob Weisberg

He can’t afford his own place?

Past tense. It was decades ago. A condo in a former school in Adams-Morgan.

I remember when his beagle (Dusty?) died, and he was stricken with grief for weeks, posting about it constantly on his blog. Hopefully he loved his mother as much.

It's a beautiful and sad conversation.

A truly reprehensible human being. Absolutely no redeeming social values whatsoever. A true sociopath that would fit in very comfortably within the Trump world of egotists and con-men. Whenever I see him on some panel I switch the channel. Please go away forever.

barebacked wayyyy before U=U

There's the judgement and stigma, your mammy liked cum up her puss, so why not anyone else, probably a stupid straight cunt again, you need pancreatic cancer and die slowly.

[quote] Oddly, I don't recall seeing him with other people and don't really think of him as having friends

That's totally unsurprising to anybody who's had the misfortune of hearing him speak or reading anything by him.

Riddle me this…Why do all right-wing racist bottoms love Black Cock?

Who on earth could possibly give a shit!

R29 about Black cock?

Degrees from Oxford and Harvard, Phd on Michael Oakeshott: Sullivan is obviously a very smart man, which is why it is weird that his career was ultimately oddly trivial. I doubt much of his journalism will be remembered.

R31 1000s of people get degrees from Oxford. And a Harvard PhD? $$$…

It’s no biggy.

But yes, he will be forgotten.

[quote]and he once cruised me (on a Metrobus) many years ago. Oddly, I don't recall seeing him with other people and don't really think of him as having friends.

No doubt many hundreds of gay men who lived in Washington DC in his New Republic years could attest to the same experience. He was everywhere it seemed, and not helped in my case by having an office across the street from his. Early on in his DC career he was especially hungry-eyed and sometimes sported a hi-viz green traffic warden's vest to club nights (look at me/don't look at me.) Or there he would be, taking lunch or dinner at the table next to you in a restaurant, almost never accompanied by anyone.

R4 Here: I wouldn't be surprised that he was such a pest. If he cruised me on a Metro bus (which was a big norm violation in those days--middle class people did not make eye contact on buses), I'm sure he was doing it all over. I remember that he got off at my stop, but thankfully went in the other direction. I didn't know who he was, but the Post had a feature on him a day or two later and I realized it had been him.

R31: The Kennedy School is notoriously not very difficult. It's a short-term landing spot for people whose government service has ended for one reason or another. Sullivan used his time at Harvard to cultivate a relationship with Martin Peretz, the editor of The New Republic. I used to be a TNR subscriber and the quality of the writing went down hill when Sully was in charge--clearly everything from the choice of articles to the fact checking to the copy editing went to hell. He had no control over "the back of the book", which remained very interesting and well written if a bit narrow in its ideas. Sullivan, unlike previous editors Rick Hertzberg and to a lesser extent, Michael Kinsley, gave into Peretz's political pre-occupations. The circulation plummeted and many people (myself included) cancelled subscriptions. I recall someone phoning me (a real person, probably an intern---seems quaint now) asking why I cancelled and when I said Sullivan's editorship, there was a brief knowing silence. I don't think they wanted to say "we've gotten a lot of that".

In m work, I interact with all kinds of people from academia and I can tell you that there are many ways that people secure positions as students and even faculty at major universities and that the most elite places don't necessarily attract all of the smartest and most talented people. And many have safe landings within them like the Kennedy School.

I'm sure they have swapped Milky Loads.

R34. Well i did go to one of those fine institutions myself, I know they're not all geniuses or original thinkers. A PhD is a substantive piece of work though, no matter where it is completed. Maybe the prestige and influential platform journalism offered him were much more attractive than the possibility of doing real, substantial and groundbreaking work as a journalist.

I have a PhD and there are numerous paths to get one. In my field, it's meant to be original, empirical work and usually entails a deep dive into an empirical research literature. In some fields like public health, it's often an obvious piece of a major professor's work and can have very little originality. History, literature, government, some subfields of anthropology, etc. involve the collection and analysis of text. I've read enough of these latter dissertations to know that for every dissertation that brings originality to known text, uncovers new and controversial text, etc., there are many others that drone on using jargon, intellectually fashionable frames and review known work with ham fisted opinions of a major professor, etc.

Sully got his PhD in a department known for its lack of rigor. He likes to write and has no trouble being thoughtless and dogmatic about it. I doubt that his dissertation is a great work of intellectual thought. It's common for people in those fields to publish their dissertation or some expansion or augmentation of it as a monograph. He hasn't ---he may not have been on an academic track or he may have realized that even with a Harvard degree he probably wasn't going to get a job at a major university and if he did, the tenure track would be tough. Places like Harvard and Yale usually don't grant tenure to people who start their careers there---most land at respectable places, but most never return to an Ivy or equivalent institution again. A dissertation in a field like government is an endurance race more than an indicator of rigor and a degree from a "soft landing" part of a university usually has a stigma in the rest of teh academic world.

What happened to that Montessori school for rich but dumb right wing youth he started with Bari Weiss in Austin?

Places like Harvard and Yale usually don't grant tenure to people who start their careers there…

Each are shit full of their own grads…yuck

He certainly understands the times in which we live.