Glorification of non-hot people as hot, in American media

Ted Danson was very good looking. Watching reruns of Cheers, he just was. Harpo who dose other people you mentioned?

“So,…” OP? Are you a 14 year old girl from Sherman Oaks?

Suzanne Summers wasn't particularly gorgeous.

SS had the clown makeup gun set on 100. The huge amount of blush and eye makeup was just horrendous.

John Krasinski is a good example.

Beyonce, for fuck's sake.

Jeremy.

Allen.

White.

r6 you tried it.

Several straight men have told me that they think Beyonce is hot.

r9 Beyonce is a natural beauty. That's a troll.

Does this include people like Jimmy Kimmel, Jimmy Falon, Pete Davidson? Are they considered "hot" in your American culture?

[QUOTE] “So,…” OP? Are you a 14 year old girl from Sherman Oaks?

Eh, most of the gay men I know in my area have the taste of 14 y.o. girls.

Without a doubt, R12!

Benonce

The Queen is actually prettier as a brunette but the blonde black barbie doll is her signature look so I get it.

Justin Timberlake. Looks like an inbred hillbilly, sounds like a whiny teenager.

Katy Perry. Ugly, dumb, inarticulate… the luckiest woman in the world to get as far as she’s gotten.

r16 I have never got his appeal either. I used to say it all the time in college. He looks like a rat. I mean he is not hideous. JC, Joey, and Lance look better than him.

OK, I agree with Katy Perry.

I always felt that way about Leif Garrett, back when. Yet it seemed some girls really did think he was hot.

I second R16 on Timberlake. He was never attractive to me and I was in high school when his solo career launched. He aged very quickly too.

Joe Scarborough

I don't think Katy Perry is ugly. I have never understood why white people thought Britney Spears is so much prettier than Christina Aguilera. Christina is better looking.

I hate to say it and I love my black queen but Michelle Obama. When Obama FIRST hit the scene, mad black people was like "she aint that good looking". Then the media transformed her into some type Amazonian black goddess. I mean I guess her whole aura. Sometimes being so positive and intelligent can make you pretty. She definitely isn't ugly though.

OP, don't be racist.

Adam Driver

Glen Powell OWNS this thread.

Barry.Fucking.Keoghan.

Timothee "Ratboy" Chalamet.

Benedict Cumberbatch

I feel like it’s more common than not. Even with conventionally attractive people who are blown up to be SUPER HOT. It’s amazing what the gullible public will buy into, even now.

This is a weird, dumb thread.

Can't compare what people thought was attractive in the 70s to today. Just no.

I'm sorry, but I think Jacob Elordi's face looks like a fun-house mirror.

But now vs 10-15 years ago… you definitely see that they’re casting fugs a lot more frequently. Esp. the guys.

Leonardo DiCaprio. He never looked any good.

George Stephanopolous.

R33: I think this was a reaction to Me Too. The woke progressives are anti-beauty and anti-tradition. Therefore, Hollywood decided to only seek out men who were devoid not just of toxic aspects of masculinity but all things masculine. The studios figured a boring, feminized leading man not too threatening to women and girls is what was needed in the wake of the Me Too movement. Personally, I think the movement actually did more to women and it created a discriminatory, misandrist culture. Men suddenly became the new women: an oppressed class. I'm hopeful that Hollywood will learn its lesson and stop with these pointless, little gender wars. Perhaps one good thing to come out of all of it was that it did away with that ridiculous notion that the only truly good looking people in the world are famous. I promise you'll find at your local Target at least 2-3 guys who are way better looking than Tom Holland.

What about every straight man's fantasy, Sarah Jessica Parker?

This is what happened...

During its Golden Age (c. 1930s-1960s) Hollywood was run by religious conservatives via the Motion Picture Production Code (aka Hays Code) which put emphasis on beauty and dictated what was appropriate to show on screen.

Ultra-liberals took over in the late '60s and dismantled the Code, ushering in the New Hollywood, which lasted through the '70s. In this era, the rating system was established (G, PG, R, X; later PG-13 and NC-17) and sex/nudity/profanity became widespread in movies. Also, emphasis was put on homely actors/actresses as an antidote against the earlier studio system. Lots of depressing, dystopian movies in the '70s, too.

By the '80s, with Reagan in office for most of the decade, Hollywood went back toward the center and moderates were in charge. This was a return to excess and beauty, which lasted through the '90s and 2000s.

By the early 2010s, Hollywood began shifting far-left and once again started hiring ugly performers instead. "Woke" is very anti-beauty.

But I have a feeling that conservatives will take over Hollywood again, almost 100 years since the last time.

Maybe they'll give us a Golden Age II with more beautiful actors.

"Oh Blossom, you're so beautiful!"

Powell has the body but the face is a bit of a mixed bag. Sometimes he looks sexy and other times he looks like a disappointing mess. Still I'd take him any day over the sexless twinks (Chalamet, Keoghan, Holland).

They had one of the essentials...a *look*.

Mia Goth

R36 thinks men are oppressed when we just elected a male rapist over a woman for president

You're just a right-wing troll looking to attack MeToo and feminism.

This is hilarious

Impotent shriveled old elder gays debating about the hotness of George Stephanopoulos and Leif Garrett

Go back to your crypts grandpas

Johnny Depp was the worst

Johnny Depp was genuinely hot in the 90s but he hasn't looked good in years.

Mia Wasikowska is beautiful, understated.

R36 oh please. Jacob Elordi and Paul Mescal are mad good looking. And isn’t Margot Robbie the biggest actress in the world right now. If anything beautyism is bigger now than it was in the 90s except more embrace of fat people.

It's not about being good looking (and i would argue Jacob Elordi is downright ugly).

Margot Robbie has used up her space.

And Teacake, you need to read the room. It's not all about box office. It's about much more than that, and you - being so young - haven't gotten that in all this time you've been posting.

r33 you think you're smart, but you are missing it. You don't really get it. You're too young and naive.

Maybe shut up and learn something without always flapping your gums.

[quote] And Teacake, you need to read the room. It's not all about box office. It's about much more than that, and you - being so young - haven't gotten that in all this time you've been posting.

Are you kidding? Prince Akeemmussycake of Mars is in his 50s.

So young 🤣.

R49 All those people I named are universally agreed as attractive. And they are highly attractive. Jacob Elordi is ugly? I know we all have opinions. He’s lanky but ugly?

R51 Bitch I’m 36. Fall the fuck back. You starting that hating shit again. Reel it in bitch. Learn to love yourself.

No one has ever called Tom Holland a great beauty, r36. Are you really going to pretend that every single male actor pre-2014 was some incredibly fuckable sex god? He's known for playing bland nerd Peter Parker. You're doing that thing conservative people do where they use the success of one unconventional actor as proof that standards are dead. CaN YoU BeLiEvE THEY WaNt Us tO FuCk BoWaN YaNg

The 70s brought us a version of urban realism - we were given some Monet-level pretty people.

Johnny Depp has never been anything but ugly.

I never got the appeal of Steve McQueen. I think he was ugly.

R19- He resembled a HOT SLUTTY chick himself in those tight leather pants he wore.

He looked like someone who sucked cock.

R36- I agree 🫤- In the 1970’ ms you had non hot people like Robert Redford and Clint Eastwood and Paul Newman.

[quote] Katy Perry. Ugly, dumb, inarticulate… the luckiest woman in the world to get as far as she’s gotten.

She has little appeal now and unpleasant voice. But to be fair, in her prime - ie during her first album - she could perform sexuality in videos and had a fine pair of tits.

Women like Jeremy Allen White and Benedict Cumberbatch are popular because of their personalities and potent charisma as more as for their looks. They find these two sexy, but no one is pretending they’re actually unconventionally handsome, the way that John Krasinski and Barry Keoghan work hard to present themselves.

John Krasinski is well over 6’ with broad shoulders and a full head of thick hair. And his face is inoffensive, even if it isn’t handsome.

Adam Driver has the height and shoulders and a very distinctive, masculine face that would be ugly on someone that wasn’t as well-built. He benefits from anti-pretty.

Ryan Gosling is the one that really confuse me. He’s so average.

[quote] And his face is inoffensive,

Inoffensively ugly, sure.

[quote]Suzanne Summers wasn't particularly gorgeous.

Neither was Suzanne Somers.

I get all their reasons for pushing average looking to homely men and casting them as leads but nobody wants it. People are over these "feminized" leading men.

Dominic Sessa

It's almost like people have different ideas of what's attractive.

Spare me, R50. Hollywood has a thing for the odd looking right now.

Lots of Leni Riefenstahls on this thread.....

Charles Bronson had pie-face. Farah Fawcett had an oddly shaped head.

It's incredible to look back on the 70s and see how many plain and unconventional (by today's standards) A-list actors and actresses there were. Tommy Lee Jones had a unibrow and Robert Duvall was balding (but not in the clean-shaven way someone like, say, the Rock is today).