When will we just admit that Russia has defeated US?

My boyfriend and I were just talking about this and basically came to the same conclusion.

Thank god I already speak Russian!

Well, fuck. If OP, r1 AND r1's boyfriend ALL think that Russia is stronger and wealthier than NATO then I guess it's time to just hand over Europe.

trump will pull the US out of NATO. I know Biden is out there trying to strengthen everything he can but whio knows if it will be enough.

We just started a prepper plan. Going to go all in like Last of Us gay couple. Here comes the shitstorm.

The American Civil War, and the Cold War were both (finally) lost on Nov. 5th.

you bitches need a hobby

R7 needs a brain transplant, as well as a new ostrich neck, so he can keep sticking his head deeper and deeper into the ground.

Maybe you should move to Russia, R8. It seems like you would fit right in with those gross slobs

Who are these people who think Russia has “won?”

They have their dick and balls caught in a bear trap. Just today, their losses are estimated as including:

1560 men

15 tanks

38 APC

In. One. Day.

Russia can’t even conquer a third rate military power that’s right on its border. Russia isn’t winning anything.

Of course I am very worried about Trump, who considers the turds from Putin’s ass as tasty treats, in the White House, and its effect on the Ukraine War. But Russia hasn’t triumphed anywhere. The Ukrainian War is a major humiliation for them.

Thank you, R10!

My conclusion exactly.

Putin's involvement with getting Trump reelected does in fact mean Russia has defeated the US. He was able to get corrupt and/or compromised people in key positions to manipulate various facets of our media, economy and government to get his key asset Trump back into the White House. The guardrails will be off this time. NATO will be gutted by 2028, Ukraine will be mostly under Russia, and other key eastern European countries will now be a threat by Russia. Even NATO members can now be invaded without repercussions.

Russia had to import North Koreans who apparently can't follow orders and just want to jerk it to internet porn all day

Boris still visits us here!

Oh pish tosh. Russia is on the verge of collapse right now. They're not in a position to overpower anyone, much less NATO.

[Quote] NATO will be gutted by 2028, Ukraine will be mostly under Russia,

MARY!!!

Look, trumps election is fantastic news for Putin. No one denies that. But you are Henny Penny-ing it up over here.

The U.S. is not the only nation in NATO. Even if the U.S. pulls out, NATO has over two million soldiers left. That’s larger than the Russian army even if the planned expansion is fully successful — the goal is 1.5 million.

And if the USA pulls out, the European countries will recognize that they need to step up their defense spending etc.

Again, Ukraine has less than 1 million active duty soldiers and only a modest defense industrial base. NATO has a *massive* defense industry.

By the way, I doubt Trump will exit NATO. It would infuriate conservatives and would look chickenshit. He's obsessed with his image.

Lol@ OP’s ignorance and propaganda addiction. Russia is a backward, impoverished, third rate military “power” that had to import Asian shock troops to try to finish a war against a country that did not even have a military ten years ago. Russia can’t finance this war, and barely qualifies for the G20. Sweet Jaysus, sit down and shut up , you stupid ho.

North Koreans are not shock troops. North Korea has not been at war for seventy years. The Norks are cannon fodder.

Look at them like the hessians in the American revolution, only not as good. British commanders always preferred having redcoats under their command to hessians. (They weren’t bad soldiers per se but they were very old fashioned and not ideally suited for warfare in America.)

The only thing North Korean soldiers can win is a goosestepping military march competition.

Does the US get out of this without violence on our soil?

R16 "By the way, I doubt Trump will exit NATO. It would infuriate conservatives and would look chickenshit. He's obsessed with his image. '

Trump has been driving the MAGA bus 180 degrees in the opposite direction of the so-called Republican conservative policies for close to a decade, particularly in regards to foreign policy, and there is nobody on the right who will stand up to him. He is already calling for court-martialing and even executing the most esteemed generals and admirals in the US military, and nobody is pushing back. You think Trump running counter to US allies and 75 plus years global policies are going to get any resistance? And from whom? Trump has grown stronger and bolder because everyone on the Republican side are craven and feckless ass-lickers without a spine.

Why are emaciated North Koreans on the frontlines in Russia if the war is won.

Well, we’ll see.

Russia has always had one ace up its sleeve in a war situation — during Soviet times they manufactured MASSIVE amounts of military hardware, especially vehicles. Tens of thousands of tanks for instance weee mothballed waiting to be dragged out of stock.

Well, guess what? They’ve burned through most of it in fighting Ukraine.

This is not all to say Russia isn’t still a dangerous adversary. Russian military operations are often shambolic and inept, but their equipment is pretty good and Russian soldiers are very stolid. And they are building up considerable experience (well, the ones who survive).

But they are not an existential threat to the west. That’s hysterical talk.

I am not worried about Russians. I am worried about our own. They have been radicalized to hate Democrats partly because of Russian propaganda. Would they shoot us?

I am arming up just in case.

Here's a warning shot from Russia. Both countries are now preparing for war.

[quote]I am not worried about Russians. I am worried about our own. They have been radicalized to hate Democrats partly because of Russian propaganda. Would they shoot us?

How do you know it's Russian propaganda?

Since most Americans are conservative/moderate, Democrats are the evil ones when they shifted far-left in recent years.

That's why they lost badly and why liberals are becoming persona non grata.

They did this to themselves.

No. You did this. You.

Both countries including North Korea?

I can't confirm it's Russian propaganda, but I see a gigantic pile right-wing bullshit talking points at R27. The party whose entire platform centered on divisiveness, retribution and hate was the Republicans. They won, but liberals aren't going anywhere, no matter how you'd wish it would happen, just like MAGA didn't disappear after Biden and the Democrats won in 2020.

*see a gigantic pile of right-wing bullshit

[quote] they lost badly

1.5% — and shrinking — is "badly"? The 5th smallest victory in history is "badly"? Neither candidate cresting 50% of the vote is "badly"?

Get a grip.

Go back to bed Igor, the vodka’s gone dry.

Ah, of course the vatnik had to make an appearance. I wonder what stage of krokodil withdrawal you're going through. Stay away from thoser pesky Russian window, da?

In 1956, in Russia, Nikita Khrushchev made a speech wherein he stated "We will bury you," referring to the US.

Has this/will this come to pass? It seems so, not with guns and tanks as we would've thought at the time, but with subterfuge and stealth, and not so stealth, propaganda.

BAG, I think we’re there, yes. I want to be wrong so badly. But I can only go off of what I’m seeing them all do. I believe America fell. Not sure how to even stay sane knowing I lost my country. I’m waiting to see how it plays out.

My biggest fear is this. We are middle class, have grown kids. My entire life I’ve worked so that I can leave my kids something more than I started out with so they can build a better life. If they succeed in crashing the economy (and who is going to stop them now?), I believe we will lose everything. So that alone, it’s just too much. I don’t even care about us, now it’s about my kids and their future which looks like it’s being destroyed. And all I can do is wait and wonder. Be glad you don’t have kids, it’s just one more layer to the pain.

Do you have any plans or are you just going to wait and watch it unfold? You in NYC, yes? Stay OFF those streets once those raids start, make sure you have all your food, paper goods, meds, stockpiled because it could go on for weeks, I don’t know. Just stay invisible.

The war isn’t over yet.

R37

R37 I can’t unblock you, no idea why. I agree.

Yes. The US and NATO were preparing for a hot war in Europe.

Putin attacked us via propaganda and social media. Europe has finally started to recognize the threat and neutralize it, but the US is still in denial.

Why this country refuses to see what's happened/happening - especially since Putin is crowing about it all over the airwaves just dumbfounds me.

Is our entire intelligence apparatus compromised with double agents? Sure looks that way to me. Either that or they're the dumbest fuckers to draw breath. You see it in your face, you've known about it for nearly TEN YEARS and yet you still can't or won't do fuck all about it.

They can't even counter with our own propaganda, FFS.

I haven't seen a single thing in American MSM about the pipeline. International news is reporting about how there was a Chinese ship helmed by a Russian captain who also happened to be in the area when the last pipeline was ruptured..I mean, come on! This is Cold War era shit that we would have heard all about in the 80's! Instead, we're being distracted by trump's clown cabinet. Distraction is the point.

It’s a fiber-optic cable, not a pipeline.

The biggest Russian attack was the bomb threats, bar NONE. It’s an act of war. WTF is Biden doing????

Exactly, r43. To disrupt the vote counts and fuck it up.

Harris was WINNING when they pulled that shit.

Targeted attacks by Russia. It IS an act of war and crickets from the US.

So they declared war on us and we just shrugged? How is this possible?

Because nobody is shooting, r45.

And the agencies supposed to be protecting us are compromised. That’s how.

Yeah, I don’t really care. This is a Europe problem. Let Meloni and Orban and the other right-wingers deal with it there.

I do t think the US has lost. But it better get moving.

I think this so all going to come to a head at once. We need to pop this like a pimple that’s been simmering beneath the skin. You have to wait until the exact right time to pop it.

As a zit popper in my younger years, you gotta wait until it gets “ripe” enough to pop, or all of the pus won’t come out.

Maybe they’re waiting for the zit to ripen with all the pus moving to the surface?

Yes r50. Too soon and you just hurt yourself.

They had to wait until now when the puss is showing itself.

I kinda miss popping zits.

No, r50 and r51.

It was better to squeeze before they became pimples or whiteheads and got all infected. When they were just a little bump of sebum under the skin. Squeeze, apply teatree oil. No pimple or whitehead forms.