Not One Person had a factual reason to vote for Trump

Israel? Trump won't intervene if somoen drops a nuke on it.

The US IS going to be Lord of The Flies, The Handmaid’s Tale, 1984 and Animal Farm all rolled into one.

Trump was always an antisemite, hatin both Jews and Arabs, but dumb as dirt Arabas voetd for him anyway.

Arab Americans like rural Americans, are cowards who have not deserved what rights they currently have.

Let's convert all the highways to toll roads, as MAGA libertarians have been demanding. That's what rural America deserves.

And a complete end to public education. No horrible teachers unions to deal with if all kids pay online tutors.

No Trump voter has ever been able to give a single rational reason for voting for him?

Too much damn crime? Crime is not the president's job. If the president is interfering with crime, the president is neglecting his job.

They know the Supreme Court is corrupt and republicans are to blame for it. And yet they want more republicans on the Supreme Court? Madness, surely. I do believe the only explanation for this vote is that they wish to kill gays and other Americans and this is as close as they can get to saying so.

owning the libs is a reason

"owning the libs" is meaningless. It is just a funny shorthand for violence

[quote]Not One Person had a factual reason to vote for Trump

Speak for yourself.

Biden is too old.

Harris is a black female.

Trumpsters are about to learn this lesson: "Screw me once, shame on you. Screw me twice, shame on me."

The why is really not the point. If there was ever a vibes campaign, it was his.

Vibes

He ran on racism and white people ate it up

The press is saying the economy motivated voters, also “a sour mood” but nothing trump provides will help either

Trump will suddenly start talking about how the economy is great and the stock market is doing great because of him.

He will take and get all the credit

But think of all the amazing things that he’ll bring back - like child marriage and some cool throwback retro diseases.

Of course, and everyone who knows he lies will not believe him and everyone who voted for him will believe him

R8 yes they want faggots dead, women enslaved, and minorities quiet and grateful to be allowed in the same space

Some delivery truck driver told me people don't like a woman telling them what to do! That's why he voted trump...

who cares about some delivery trunk driver

FACTUAL REASONS? You're kidding.

I voted for Trump to stop the insane transexing that schools are performing on our innocent children. You send your boy to school and he comes home a girl. It's outrageous and must be stopped!

Yup, just vibes. Ridiculous. Some latinos interviewed were saying they are so mad at Biden due to the lockdowns. Which BEGAN UNDER TRUMP. WTF is wrong with these people!?

R26 the average voter isn’t low or no information, they have fabricated information that they find highly motivating. The way in which we treat politics as entertainment I think also gives people the impression that is isn’t very serious or worth taking the time to carefully form views about.

R27, you are so right and it fucking sickens me. I was so angry last night as I realized how this election was going. And I wondered if it would make me feel better if the people who voted for Trump got everything they voted for themselves. And it won't. Because many people who didn't support him will also be punished. But, regardless, fuck them. The only candidate in history with experience in all three branches wasn't going to do anything Trumpian and they didn't choose her. Fucking idiots.

pretty much

r28 you could inform them until you're blue in the face and you'll just get a shrug and something like 'i don't know, but he's like a businessman so that could be good for like the economy and stuff and he said we'd like make a lot of money so honestly that's like the most important thing for me'

How long will his ego let him keep Musk and RFK around?

R30, if you had told me in the 00s that The Apprentice would be used as proof in regards to Trump's competency, I would have said you were full of shit. Not to mention it's happened twice no!

*now

Ukraine will be a lost cause now. Trump will eliminate funding and arms to Ukraine and will see that all the US sanctions on Russia removed.

Putin's puppet has won again.

r35. And Europe will have the next "Immigrant crisis". This time with ukrainian people leaving their country en masse.

I’m heartbroken, embarrassed, angry, & frightened that so many Americans think this ignorant, hateful con man should be President. It wasn’t even close. So depressing.

it was close, but not close enough apparently

Men hate women, and white people hate black people.

Their we'll be no more sex change surgies in schools!

What is trump gonna do with the migrants

You are not listening. Puberty blockers for children Pronoun ideology. DEI Antiracism Queer ideology Calling everyone racist nazis you don’t agree with Identity politics A woman is an identity Trans women in female sports

AMERICA VOTED NO.

It’s time to rebrand the Democratic Party and take it back from the far left.

Give it a rest r42

r42, none of that is true

again, these are not factual reasons, they are vibes

Still have no heard one factual argument in favor of Trump. There aren't any. The closest anyone has come is to say that Putin is less likely to nuke us, but you'd be wrong to trust either Trump or Putin, and Putin would prefer us all to be dead, and that won't change.

Trump's margin of vicotry was people who made up their minds in the last week. They went for Trump after hearing racist and misogynist remarks at his rallies. It was definitely a power play by him to appeal to the worst people in society.

As we have repeatedly stated, trans agenda was funded by and came from the right. And why was it not a big issue to you in 1971? WHy is it a big issue now? And what does it have to do with the president, whose job does not include overseeing women's sports at local schools.

Presidents have a define drole that does NOT include street policing, setting local school policies, and controlling prices except in the general macroeconomic sense, not in the price of eggs tomorrow at Safeway. And in that respect Trump is only promising higher prices.

Again no vote forr Trump had anything to do with anything but racism, sexism, and hate.

The stupids vote for celebrities. If he hadn't had a tv show none of this would be happening.

Not one

The fact that JD Vance will be second in line is very upsetting. Pence wasn't scary.

When people who planned to vote for Trump yesterday were asked, their answers were mostly the economy, then immigration.

Not one person had a factual reason?

I Hate Women. I Hate N****rs!

I just gave you two.

^^but I am not talking about myself, (hopefully obvious). I'm a gay Jew who loves BBC.

You are not alone. We all love the British Broadcasting Company

During Trump's previous Presidential term, I mainly disliked waking up each day, turning on news and learning the latest insane (inane?) thing he had done, was in the middle of doing, or was planning Every damned day it felt like *s l o w torture*. I may need to take my leave in January. While my partner rejoices over how much we made in the stock market today, I am experiencing a kind of emotional evisceration. I am disgusted with such a large part of the population that includes those that voted for him and those that chose not to vote at all. I guess I should just enjoy these final months of the Affordable Care Act, Medicare, and Social Security. Yes, I want to leave but it also means leaving my country and starting a new life. I'm old and tired. The idea of doing this seems rough.

A group of gays should plan to leave together for support.

I hear you R59.

R55 those ar e not rreasons, those are just stupid opinions.

They'll say oh he'll eliminate tax on tips and ss benefits (which will save the average person a few pennies), while all the tax cuts go to corporations and rich people, who will park that money somewhere where it doesn't circulate, like in gold or bitcoins or real estate. He'll cut grocery prices! How? By deporting ag workers and putting tarris on any foreign foodstuffs coming in? That won't cut prices, Last time he fiddled with prices, were oil prices in 2020, when prevailed on Russia and Saudi Arabia to c ut production in order to raise prices on his little working stiffs in the USA. More than that, he's told so many lies for so long and broken so many promises you know you can't trust anything that comes out of his mouth! These people are not dealing with facts or policies. they are listening to ads paid for by 7 billionaires, who gave Trump $818 million, and thinking they're sticking it to the "elites" when a small handful of 80 year old crooks is yanking their chain!

Ii saw a tik tok where one of these MAGA types admitted to an Asian reporter than he voted to "slow down" the loss of power and privilege of "whites"

[quote] When people who planned to vote for Trump yesterday were asked, their answers were mostly the economy, then immigration. and the trump campaign had merely “concepts of a plan” to offer them, yet they voted. . .

[quote]And Europe will have the next "Immigrant crisis". This time with ukrainian people leaving their country en masse.

That's one of the things that angers me on top of everything else. We supported Ukraine with aid and weapons and they're still standing despite it being a stalemate. Trump/MAGA aren't going to do that. Vladimir Putin is surely celebrating now that his bitch will be back in office. I hope other European countries step up their efforts to assist Ukraine while we descend into the abyss.

Well, it’s true they won’t be taxing your social security. Because there will be no social security. That’s one promise kept.

They are lying R63, Race and gender are their only motives.

No reason other than treason.

Can I vent? THANKS

The economy, the economy, the FUCKING economy. There is NO evidence that Trump can fix this economy. What kills me is when watching CNN, their ReTrumpilcan contributors kept pushing this "people had more money under Trump" narrative BUT nobody pushed back with “That was ALMOST 8 years ago BEFORE a goddamn pandemic” WHY? Neither Biden nor Kamala ever answered that question directly--at least enough for it to be reported by the news outlets I watch.

Fox hammered that bullshit into their empty heads until they were saying in their sleep!

FUCK Michelle’s mantra. One of the biggest reasons I feel Harris lost is because of this constant need for US to be better than THEM. You cannot be civil with a guy who admires Adolph Hitler. You cannot be conventional in your approach. You’ve got to be aggressive and trashy just like them.

I am so pissed. This fucker may get to appoint TWO MORE SC justices. THAT is a wrap for this country.

I shouldn't be but I'm still in shock.

Tariffs will skewer the working classes.

Not just the working classes are in for it.

For reasons beyond my control I had to watch Fox last night. It was sickening. That ugly troll Laura Ingraham saying how Trump loves all Americans and this country. the blue collar workers rose up and told those "elites" they've had it. Ingraham and Trump are the fucking "elites". She also trashed Kamala's concession speech, which was i thought was very good. I can see how they are good at brainwashing viewers. The same shit repeated by every talking head every every hour. One talk show after another.

[quote] the blue collar workers rose up and told those "elites"

I know, it's sickening. Trump, Vance, Musk, RFK.......all ELITES. Couldn't get any more elite than this group.

Holy shit r70–that’s frightening.

Don’t have Twitter. What is it?

Facts have nothing to do with it. It's a brainwashed cult.

There’s going to be buyers remorse by day 100 of his administration, and all I can say is-GOOD.

There is such a disconnect between these people and his policies, they always think he’s talking about someone else.

Wait until a Honda Civic is $80,000 and a dozen eggs are $12, and there’s nobody available to take the jobs of these people he deported.

Wait until thousands more pretty white women end up dying from miscarriages because of his abortion ban.

Wait until Palestine is razzed and replaced with Israeli settlements.

These assholes will be on CNN and MSNBC next summer crying about it-“I thought he was going to help me.”

Eat a dick assholes, you get no sympathy from me for your willful ignorance.

Personally I don't care if the voters get their just desserts or feel regret about voting for Trump in 2024. The bad fact is that it will effect everybody, not just them.

Yup.

[quote]Personally I don't care if the voters get their just desserts or feel regret about voting for Trump in 2024. The bad fact is that it will effect everybody, not just them.

Collective punishment is a bitch, but I will sleep at night knowing I did NOT vote for that asshole.

"Don't blame me, I voted for Kamala" t-shirts will be a thing as soon as Trump and his cult starts fucking up. By late early April 2025 those shirts will be sold out.

We fantasized about Bush getting his comeuppance, but he skated nearly as much as Trump until the last few years. He tortured people, spied on citizens, ran up the debt, started unfunded wars and gave unfunded tax cuts. Finally, Katrina and then the collapse. He was beloved by Republicans and their followers. Now, they all pretend he never was President.

HE’S NOT BLACK

This Trump term will going to expose all of America's ills to the whole world. Racism, misogyny, violence, hate, retribution, human rights abuses and sliding further down the rankings of democracies. It didn't have to happen, but the allure of rounding up dog eating Haitians and roving gangs of refrigerator stealing criminal Venezuelans, additional tariffs to screw up the economy and flirting with a little fascism to get in order to get it done wasn't too objectionable.

*This Trump term is going to

“I like his policies!”

Inflation. In the last week of the campaign Trump was busy promising to cut gas prices in half the first day! How will he do that and also increase American production. Indeed in 2020 he prevailed on Saudi Arabia and Russia to cut production to support higher oil prices for his friends in the oil bizness. He also said he would cut grocery prices again. Not be deporting ag workers and raising high tariffs. And how would he pay for all this AND cut corporate and taxes for rich people? The only way would be raising interest rates and choking off all credit to the economy, or rapidly printing money ( i.e. inflation). No Trump had no "policies" to appeal to people and since he never kept ANY of his promises his first term - didn't build the wall, didn't create any infrastructure (Biden did), didn't replace Obamacare with something cheaper or better.....Trump would say anything to get elected, but he has no policies that would benefit the working class and I am quite sure they know that, despite the lies spread here by Russian trolls and conservatives.

R77 Obviously. But we want to SEE IT affect the people who voted for him so we can do the "I told ya so dance."

That's the thing, R85, it doesn't have to make sense. Trump had no policies other than staying out of jail, retribution and mass deportation of brown people. Saying "I can fix it" and "there will be no inflation once I'm elected" aren't policies and he is too stupid to realize that you can't run a country on words alone, even though he's been in office before. All of his "concepts of a plan" and right-wing extremist fantasies will have costs and I don't believe he gives a damn if he tanks the economy. He already achieved his goal and if everybody else has to suffer, so be it.

But that's what the voters wanted and will get. This election shows just how sick the country is and his term will bring out nothing but the ugliest parts of American society. What other sane country would ever enthusiastically support a twice impeached, insurrection leading, hate mongering, felon and rapist who clearly states that he will act like a dictator and is rewarded with complete party and idealogical control of all three branches of the federal government for a second time? The USA. We did this on our own and can't blame anyone else for this outcome, even if some of us knew what would inevitably happen and tried to vote in opposition. Since we didn't win, we're all going to live through it.

Yeah, he even stopped talking about the economy at one point as he wasn’t very good at it. There are no reasons, only hate

Bring on the tariffs. I want Trump to destroy the economy.

People don’t vote on facts.

R87, that's what kills me. On Wednesday, I was filled with so much anger and despair after I saw the results. I was wondering if seeing Trump voters reap what they sowed would make me feel better. But then I remembered this isn't going to be "neat and tidy" like that. The people who suffer aren't going to just be people who stupidly voted for him, people who oppose him will also be targeted. And that sucks.

OP- Wide open borders was one of the factual reasons to vote for Trump,

The people who voted for Trump voted for fantasy. They don't want "policies." They don't want the plodding competence of Democrats. They want lies.

Fine, they have their fake Messiah. Now we need to find someone who was born in a manger and sell him to the masses.

Yep, it went from the economy to 24/7 trans, men in women's bathrooms and the like. The GOP locked in on it and the fearmongering won. The ignorance and undercurrent of hate in our country is astounding. And that orange bastard will inherit Joe Biden's economy, try to claim it was all of his making and his voters will repeat it as truth.

It's crazy how the movie Network was so ahead of its time. People don't even WANT reality anymore, they just want entertainment in short form, ALL the time.

[quote]Some latinos interviewed were saying they are so mad at Biden due to the lockdowns.

"lockdowns"? How about "voluntary public health measures which were met with a MAGA hissy fit visible from space"?

The poorly educated wanted someone smarter than the epidemiologists to aid them through a pandemic.

R96, what's ever sadder is that they don't realize the lockdowns began UNDER TRUMP. The one they just voted for. Sigh.

And you got the outcome you wanted, R92, based on a lie. The border was never "wide open" and Trump actively killed bipartisan legislation that addressed immigration reform. His party/cult caved in on his behalf to spite Biden and the Democrats. He wasn't about to give up one of his primary talking points in the campaign, either. Demonizing immigrants as criminals, rapists, dog-consuming blacks from shithole countries and roving migrant gangs of refrigerator-stealing bandits coming to a doorstep near you were used to rile up his base with grand visions of mass deportations they could sit back and watch for free. Trump may have conned you and enough of the American electorate to win, but that shit doesn't fly around here.

The problem is that the border control is complicated. Biden’s mistake was to follow the law. Republicans have milked this, and now that we are just going to ignore the law and do what Stephen Miller wants, i don’t think it will be the issue for them in the future. Democrats certainly aren’t going to risk defending immigrants.

But don’t be surprised when the rule of law and court decisions are ignored in areas that are important to you. That’s authoritarianism, and it’s where we’re going.

R23, That's the issue in a nutshell. You don't care what some "delivery driver" said. That delivery driver can vote. Blue collar workers are tired of being looked down upon by snobs.

[quote] Blue collar workers are tired of being looked down upon by snobs.

Then they should stop being so goddamned stupid.

R70 Does this person have any advice on how to protect our savings and equities from Trump? Cash them out and bury in the backyard?

[quote ]Blue collar workers are tired of being looked down upon by snobs

I’m going to look down upon (and avoid) anyone who votes based on lies and hate

"nternal testing in the battlegrounds over many months showed that Dems were having a very difficult time persuading undecided voters that Trump was a bad president. They didn't hold him responsible for things they disliked about his presidency."

[quote]They didn't hold him responsible for things they disliked about his presidency."

But they had no problem holding any and everything against Joe Biden. Pathetic assholes.

Trump hates the same people most of them hate, the hate is the reason. They will deny it, they see themselves as loving Christians but they aren't.

All the attack ads in Ohio mentioned some variation on "males in girl's locker rooms!!". The Repugs have switched from gay fear mongering to trans fear mongering. Oh, and "Mexican rapists".

They had no problem blaming a VP for things she didn’t do and couldn’t possibly do in her role. People were saying that Harris should have signed an executive order on the border herself! And she should have told Biden to take a seat and defunded Bibi! And she should have lowered the price of eggs. Insanity.

JD isn’t even number 2. Musk is the co president, Jr and Jared are next then Shady Vance. Will people keep that enter on 2028 and ask why Shady didn’t sign his own legislation to undermine Trump? Like hell they will.

We are dealing with a one in 250 years figure who has brainwashed the country and can do no wrong. Anyone who thinks Shapiro or Beshar was gong to beat this isn’t paying attention.

R108, apparently those "Kamala is for they/them" ads were massively successful. They swung the election 2.7% points towards Trump. Absolutely wild.

R76, surely you understand that his voters will blame Biden & democrats for all of it, yes?

I highly suggest people on this thread stop discussing Trump’s “policies”

It’s time to recognize that Trump’s policies are non-existent. Please take some time to delve into Elon Musk’s & Peter Thiel’s policies, along with the policies of the other 6-7 billionaires who basically purchased the results of this election.

The problem with the wait and see crowd is that this mentally ill mentally incompetent paranoid old man will be in charge of thousands of nuclear weapons. If he wakes up one day having a dream that China was attacking us, he would start a nuclear war which would end civilization in a couple hours. So much as we would all like to "wait and see," we have to take a page from their book and resist every day everything he does because as they say, "the idle mind is the devil's playground" and we have to keep him so busy fighting obstructions that he doesn't have time to think about dropping nuclear bombs on hurricanes or earthquake faults. The public will be angry, but their anger is a permanent feature of their puny little pea-brains and cannot be avoided in any case. And instead of targeting politicians, we need to target all of the largest Republican donors for destruction. Without the money from people like Elon, he could not have prevailed even with the little cat-calls to racism and misogyny.

The internet replies from MAGATs who've just figured out who pays for tariffs is truly giving me life.

He LOVES tariffs that WE pay.

I believe Miriam Adelson was also the largest donor to the antigay proposition 8 in California, was she not? Nowadays I believe she lives in Las Vegas where her trashy whore look fits in better.

R114 hateful idiots

Oh but we like his policies!

Most people are tired of woke activism, DEI, antiracism, and queer ideology That includes most Democrats.

Nonsense R119. Most people have never been eexposed to queer ideology or woke activism. What they hate is what they are told on right-wing propaganda channels, and those channels have become eexpert on lying about these things.

those are lies, R119, none of those things were a part of harris's platform. but they were all bullshite lies spewed day and night by the GOP the past year, you must have been listening too closely to them

I can assure one thing. You won’t see drag queen reading hours in libraries any more.all that shit was done by queer magas with a right wing agenda.

I almost think the outspoken folks are going to be proper outlandish. Some people don’t like to be told to be quiet. After all, “this is America.”

Further* not proper but go that route as you wish

[quote]Most people are tired of woke activism, DEI, antiracism, and queer ideology That includes most Democrats.

R119, if that were remotely true, they wouldn't have voted for the party who regularly uses those terms and are grand masters of the culture wars. They were just talking points before, but get ready for authoritarian republicans to turn regressive, bigoted, racist and hateful ideologies into policy. Whether the people want it or not.

Of course they didn’t?! More voted for him than for Biden, because unfortunately next to Biden’s old rusted bicycle Trump came across like a new solid-gold Jaguar.

^^^And that's why I will not give a damn when Trump fucks over his own supporters and gives America an ass beating so brutal that it will snap most of the deluded back into reality. Do insane things, expect insane actions.

tariffs

Their only reason -Own the libs.

OP the electorate is dumb as rocks. And Gen Z is so immature many guys voted for him because they think he’s funny.

[quote]I can assure one thing. You won’t see drag queen reading hours in libraries any more.

Maybe it will be there, but for adults only.

When his policies fail he's going to have to find somebody else to blame. Who's next for the camps.

I recently had a conversation with one of my favorite low information voters who get their news from Facebook (actually, they don't read anything but Facebook). Anyway, we talked about the election and she waxed on about her love of RFK Jr (she's ant-vaxxer) and when I mentioned Kamala, her immediate reaction was "oh, I don't like her!" When I asked why, she started stammering (the economy, Dems waited too long, wasn't specific, etc), but there was clearly a reason she didn't want to *say* - and I think we can all get what it is. So as others aptly noted, except for the hardcore MAGAs, I think it was a vote against Biden - and people like her were no doubt still mad about the vax mandate & other COVID restrictions. Both she & her husband are in the service industry and while I don't wish anything bad on them, I look forward to the day when RFK shows his true colors and her delusion gets exposed for what it is.

'Men hate women, and white people hate black people.'

Dems talk like this which is a fact. And Trump won. Dems are very very arrogant stupid people and they will never learn. They are too righteous and full of themselves. They like rethugs don't give a flying fuck about anyone else but themselves. Human nature. With Trump they knew what they were getting and much to Kamala's misfortune they knew what they were getting with her, The worst Democratic nominee ever who would have been a disaster in a primary and never won it. Which is why she had to spend more than a billion dollars on a failed campaign. You think somebody like Oprah would have offered the services of her company to Kamala as a contribution. But Oprah didn't become a billionaire by being an idiot with her money. She knew.

Q-Mom what do losers do after their party was crushed and shutout in a national election?

A- Helen, read this thread on DL and it will become clear.

[quote]The US IS going to be Lord of The Flies, The Handmaid’s Tale, 1984 and Animal Farm all rolled into one.

Pregnant animals stuck on a deserted island being watched by "big brother?"

Pukkkes are sober, thoughtful and respectful.

The vax mandate and the shutdowns occurred under orange.

Not only are magats ill-informed and TOXIC, they lie.

All the time.

About everything.

Harris Waltz was enough reason for many. Not me I thought she ran a great campaign, not the View appearance, and trump ran a terrible one.

The only things trump did was not get killed when he got nicked and win the election.

America hates DL or would if they had any idea it exists. It’s us they voted against. We should at least be honest.

I like presidents who do not report to parole officers

My, friend, like has, like a missing like cat? And like I read like on Facebook? Like they are like eating, like the like um, like dawgs and cats.

Here is a little anecdote. For the past week, in the evenings, I've had my television on of those digital IP channels that show nothing but old sitcoms. Anyways, I've paid attention to the show Just Shoot Me, as Im cleaning up, on the phone, doing laundry etc. On 3 different occasions I noticed Trump being talked about by the elder Jewish actor who owns the magazine. So often that I realized it must be some type of running gag on the show, with the character having some type of rivalry with Trump. I said in 2016, if trump fucked around and won, he would become the most dangerous and influential president of all time. Because he has been built into our popular country and it's fucking with the subconscious psyche of average iq Americans.

Fuck you Morning Joe for legitimizing him.

should read popular culture* not country.

so insane

Jesus OP get a grip

But NOTHING is more important than voting for a white guy. All sacrifices are worth it.

r145, fuck off, I'm worried

R139 do you mean trans? I didn’t see anyone voting for Trump because of gay marriage, but because trans were turning boys into girls instead

OP keep beating dear

[bold]We don't come back from this election. [/bold] If you think the Trump Cabinet has any plans to EVER leave wake up. They will declare Martial Law by 2026. They are already threatening Govs and Mayors. If you think Trump and his Border Czar will not roll tanks into downtown Denver with an arrest warrant you better wake up. And who will try the Govs and Mayors? The Trump Government. Keep your head down. Protect yourself. This is going to get very scary.

[quote]If you think Trump and his Border Czar will not roll tanks into downtown Denver with an arrest warrant you better wake up.

It was the Denver mayor who first said that he intended to violate the law and intended to be arrested. The border czar agreed that if the mayor broke the law and wanted to be arrested, the federal government would properly arrest him. If the mayor wants to put on a show, that's on him.

Denver Mayor has backed down.. That Border Czar is scary as fuck. He can't wait to arrest his first Mayor.

r152, no one is above the law, including mayors. Johnston may want to be the next George Wallace, trying to stand in the way of lawful federal authority, but we can't have local officials declaring themselves to be a law unto themselves.

Trump thinks he is above the law R153.

God damn

Trump is above the law

. . .

Who's the chicken little in this and other threads, as if one need ask? Ridiculous trolling.

Keep an eye out for Bigmouth Governor from New Mexico. She thinks a lawsuit is going to stop Idiot Trump and his Border Gastapo Czar from rolling tanks onto the Governors mansion lawn with an arrest warrant with her name on it.

Some of the Texas democrats are already saying Mexican tariffs will force the country to do something about illegals and fentanyl. Are they kissing the ring or being pragmatic?

Over 90% of fentanyl in the US is coming through legal ports of entry, and is being trafficked and dealt by US citizens. The bullshit narrative that it is coming illegally through our porous borders is just a wedge narrative for political gains.

r153 I'm not defending the mayor of Denver, but we are far from knowing that some of Trump's planned actions are "lawful". He's already said he plans to use US military to do these deportations, but there are huge guardrails in the Posse Comitatus Act and elsewhere to prevent federal troops from "invading" places within our own borders. The lawsuits will begin being filed moments after the first efforts. Moreover, when the "show" deportations begin, I suspect the "outings" will begin. There are probably dozens, if not hundreds of Trump appointees and highly placed Republicans with illegals working as nannies, gardeners, cooks, landscapers, construction workers, repairmen, roofers, etc, etc. It's not a good look when the people ordering deportations have been hiring illegals all along. The deplorables will be late to hear about it though, because for sure FOX news will not report it. But fully half of us didn't vote for Trump and we watch other channels, so we will know about it and we will speak openly about it to the Trumpers in our environments. right?

This is not a situation analogous to George Wallace, who had been ordered to desegregate schools, because the laws had already been decided by the courts, unlike what is being proposed here.

[quote]Not One Person had a factual reason to vote for Trump

Well Trump had like 94 good reasons.

At least we know that when the tanks go rolling in to attack the cities the USMC will not be using their tanks to attack US citizens. Not in 2025 not in 2026.

You know, Nixon popularized the notion, in his 1968 campaign that the federal government would get "tough on crime" when in fact the federal government has very little to do with local law enforcement. Since then the Federal government has wandered into the crime issue as if they could restore order and safety. Even passed a crime bill in 1994. They exploit people's fear of crime, which is different from the reality of local crime. As for inflation, t here are so many hidden fees and costs at various stages in the supply chain that the farmer sees a very small % of the profit from growing food, and the costs eventually get passed on to the consumer. Where Biden dropped the ball big time, is with Housing. It is a huge driver of inflation. The US has no housing policy and neither do many states. It was a real Achilles heel in this election.

The Federal Govt R165 has been deeply involved in helping to fight crime at the local level for over 100 years. You could do a Google and confirm.

Lots of programs, lots of money, lots of technical support and even Elliott Ness.

Over 100 years which is slightly before Nixon.

Insanity

Ummm no. Teh Treasury Dept and FBI deal with very specific crimes and have no role in the safety of the streets.

R138 Recentism. The election was right after the peak of Covid but then it was still a prevalent apart of culture for the next 2 years. Most Americans are not smart enough to truly engage these topics.

They are smart enough to know that presidents don't prosecute shoplifters.

fuck them