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MAGA gays feel left out of LGBT movement

They’re here, they’re queer — and they’re not invited.

Trump-loving LGBT conservatives say they are marching to the tune of their own drum after finding themselves ostracized by the increasingly left leaning gay rights movement.

Mark Dorman, a retired teacher from Hell’s Kitchen, said he has been all but blacklisted from the Atlas Social Club, his local gay bar, since he spoke positively about the former president there last summer. “I’m almost anti-gay,” a frustrated Dorman, 64, told The Post. “It’s an embarrassment to see this kind of behavior… I’d really invite them to go to Iran or Gaza. See what that does for you. See how fast they throw you in prison or kill you.”

“It feels like the Soviet Union, Marxist environment now,” he said. “With the gay community, they feel that Republicans on the far right have an anti-gay thing. Yes, they have a certain religious belief. They have a right to say they don’t like that lifestyle.

The signs were clearly evident years ago — when his politics nearly got him kicked to the curb by his own hubby, Dorman said. “When Trump won, my husband was so upset he wanted me out of our apartment. The rage was unexplainable — I mean honest rage. I could not understand this emotion in him and why anyone would let a political vote destroy or nearly destroy a marriage,” he said.

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by Anonymousreply 149November 6, 2024 1:59 PM

I’d bet that this guy isn’t an outsider in the gay community because he’s a Trump supporter, he’s a Trump supporter because he is an outsider in the gay community. People who, for various reasons, don’t fit in often reflexively adopt views antithetical to the group they wish they were a part of as a way to cope and find an identity.

I feel sorry for the husband. If they didn’t live in Manhattan but someplace less expensive like Cleveland he would have kicked that loser out of the apartment before the 2016 election was called.

by Anonymousreply 1October 26, 2024 5:19 AM

[quote] Mark Dorman, a retired teacher from Hell’s Kitchen, said he has been all but blacklisted from the Atlas Social Club, his local gay bar, since he spoke positively about the former president there last summer. “I’m almost anti-gay,” a frustrated Dorman, 64, told The Post.

You’re 64 and complaining they won’t let you in a bar due to playing reindeer games?

You should be ostracized.

by Anonymousreply 2October 26, 2024 5:25 AM

[quote]'I’d really invite them to go to Iran or Gaza. See what that does for you. See how fast they throw you in prison or kill you.”

Seems like we've heard this statement word for word around here a lot...

by Anonymousreply 3October 26, 2024 5:25 AM

R3, I can't be the only one wondering if Madame Dorman posts on DL..

by Anonymousreply 4October 26, 2024 5:35 AM

This lesbian voted for Trump. How can lesbians vote for a candidate that is for an abortion ban? Makes no sense. In a way I can understand gay men voting for Trump (and no, I don't agree with them). But they are men so they'll never fully understand the abortion issue. But women voting for him? Ugh. Why?!?!?!

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by Anonymousreply 5October 26, 2024 5:43 AM

You're probably right R4.

by Anonymousreply 6October 26, 2024 5:46 AM

there was a thread about this article months ago

by Anonymousreply 7October 26, 2024 5:53 AM

R5, she also probably posts on DL and is one of those freaks who turns every thread into Trans and men in women's lockers, blah blah blah...

by Anonymousreply 8October 26, 2024 5:54 AM

Gay men discuss Mark Dorman and friends:

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by Anonymousreply 9October 26, 2024 6:23 AM

FAGAS!

by Anonymousreply 10October 26, 2024 6:28 AM

How much do you wanna bet that Dorman was blacklisted from that Atlas bar because he wouldn't/couldn't STFU about Trump/MAGA and his political obnoxiousness was off-putting to other loyal [paying] patrons?

by Anonymousreply 11October 26, 2024 6:33 AM

Murdoch NY Post links give clickdollars and SEO to people who hate gays.

by Anonymousreply 12October 26, 2024 6:34 AM

What’s on her iPod?

by Anonymousreply 13October 26, 2024 6:36 AM

[quote] “With the gay community, they feel that Republicans on the far right have an anti-gay thing. Yes, they have a certain religious belief. They have a right to say they don’t like that lifestyle."

Spoken like an entitled White blue state gay that has never been gay-bashed. Dumb f@ggot!

by Anonymousreply 14October 26, 2024 6:40 AM

He has a point though....

by Anonymousreply 15October 26, 2024 12:30 PM

We should treat them like the garbage they are. Do not befriend a gay maga, do not have sex with them. Make them feel like the plague.

by Anonymousreply 16October 26, 2024 1:00 PM

I have one late in life lesbian friend who is a Trumper. Before she "came out" as a lesbian she was married to men three times and has four kids. She posts a lot of Bible verses. She's attempted to merge her new life where she's out and "proud" with her old life (sans husbands). She often gets into arguments with her conservative friends and they tend to unfriend her, after calling her terrible names. She doesn't seem to understand that she's no longer accepted or loved by them in the same way since she's become a lesbian. That even though she apparently holds the many of the same opinions, prejudices, and values, she is now an "other" and they are going to reject her.

She keeps posting all of the "God loves EVERYONE!" posts even as her conservative"friends " turn more and more away from her and reject her for who she really is. She obviously thinks that they should love her as she is, since their shared, conservative God does.

It's fascinating to watch, to be honest. I'm wondering how long it's going to take for her to wise up. Obviously this election cycle will be too late. I wouldn't be surprised if she dumps the girlfriend and goes back to men.

by Anonymousreply 17October 26, 2024 1:12 PM

They're mentally ill, clearly. We can only hope they get better one day.

by Anonymousreply 18October 26, 2024 1:20 PM

[quote] Seems like we've heard this statement word for word around here a lot...

Yes, in relation to idiots who support Hamas, but what does that have to do with the issue at hand?

Voting for Trump or living in an Islamic caliphate are our only two options?

by Anonymousreply 19October 26, 2024 1:25 PM

[quote]MAGA gays feel left out of LGBT movement

As well they should.

by Anonymousreply 20October 26, 2024 1:26 PM

Fuck them and their mental gymnastics.

by Anonymousreply 22October 26, 2024 1:29 PM

"Mark Dorman, a retired teacher from Hell’s Kitchen, said he has been all but blacklisted from the Atlas Social Club"

He's been blacklisted because he's a cheap bitch who buys one drink and sits there nursing it for two hours then leaves a quarter tip.

Also, we're sick of him telling everyone he's 64 but all of his "friends: tell him he could easily pass for 24.

by Anonymousreply 23October 26, 2024 1:30 PM

[quote] The money given to Ukraine and illegal immigrants flooding across the border, while veterans and hurricane victims are underly supported.

And you think VP Kamala Harris was/is responsible for that? Pal, you are too ignorant to even deserve the right to vote.

by Anonymousreply 24October 26, 2024 1:34 PM

Cults are cults. They don't care about sexuality. Look at Caitlan Jenner. Trans and still a republican Trump supporter.

by Anonymousreply 25October 26, 2024 1:35 PM

In my heavily gay and liberal neighborhood on the Jersey shore where Kamala lawn signs reign, the few MAGA gays seem to signal each other with their American flags hoisted up on tall phallic-like poles.

by Anonymousreply 26October 26, 2024 1:38 PM

Other telltale signs of MAGA gays include excessive Botox and tanning, 80s style preppy clothes, and real estate licenses.

by Anonymousreply 27October 26, 2024 1:44 PM

[quote] im not maga but thers so many reasons I cant vote for Kamalla.

First of all, oh, dear. Second, you already said you’re not American, so fuck off.

by Anonymousreply 28October 26, 2024 1:51 PM

R19 yes Harris is running on the platform of promoting and Islamic caliphate

by Anonymousreply 29October 26, 2024 1:55 PM

"im not maga."

But ya are Blanche, ya are a bloodsucking, cocksucking MAGAt.

by Anonymousreply 30October 26, 2024 1:56 PM

There is a German language word for gay maga supporters; Kapo

by Anonymousreply 31October 26, 2024 1:58 PM

This is rich. MAGA is all about exclusion and division, scapegoating and bigotry.

So some MAGAs are subjected to their own treatment and melt down like the snowflakes they are.

by Anonymousreply 32October 26, 2024 2:00 PM

Chickens came home to roost, etc…

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by Anonymousreply 33October 26, 2024 2:07 PM

Other than presumed lower taxes, what do these hideous MAGA gays think they're going to get?

by Anonymousreply 34October 26, 2024 2:09 PM

Who cares. these are people who want the fruits of what other people have done without sticking out their own necks for anyone else.

by Anonymousreply 35October 26, 2024 2:14 PM

According to R21's posting history - he's European so he can't vote anyway.

R21 - everything you've posted are standard MAGA talking points.

by Anonymousreply 36October 26, 2024 2:35 PM

[Quote] The money given to Ukraine and illegal immigrants flooding across the border, while veterans and hurricane victims are underly supported.

R36, it could be a cosplay. We have a rightwing troll here who seems to spend most of his free time running many, perhaps dozrns, of socks here.

This line quoted above is standard MAGA drivel, and as usual ignores the reality that it’s republicans in Congress who vote down money for disaster relief and veterans. The Ukraine money has nothing to do with it.

by Anonymousreply 37October 26, 2024 2:44 PM

We shouldn't just ostracize them. We should kill a few conservative gays "pour encourager les autres" Then we could be successful like Stalin. I mean look at this guy. A teacher living in Manhattan has the nerve to promote an antiteacher antieducation fraud who added $8 trillion to the national debt and actively promotes the Russian national interest against our own.. And nobody should touch thier ugly asses under any circumstances. They are poison. And they are fat anyway so what would be the point?

by Anonymousreply 38October 26, 2024 2:53 PM

Who was that black gay guy who ditched Trump because he got tired of being called names at rallies? He was mentioned in another thread, but I can't really the name.

by Anonymousreply 39October 26, 2024 2:54 PM

You will see a black guy on Tik Tok that said nobody every called Trump a racist before he ran for president! Actually he was sued for systematically discriminating against black tenants with this father in the sixties and seventies. It was front page news at the time.

by Anonymousreply 40October 26, 2024 2:58 PM

[quote]im not maga but thers so many reasons I cant vote for Kamalla. Shes Not presidential material.

Who’s “Kamalla”, dear?

by Anonymousreply 41October 26, 2024 3:04 PM

Yes r40, you also see MAGAs claim that no woman ever said she was sexually molested by Trump until he ran for president.

[Quote] Harth filed a lawsuit in 1997 in which she accused Trump of non-consensual groping of her body, among them her "intimate private parts",[41][42] and "relentless" sexual harassment.[43]

by Anonymousreply 42October 26, 2024 3:07 PM

The color bar in Brooklyn and Queens was maintained by the Trumps.

by Anonymousreply 43October 26, 2024 3:10 PM

There’s always Caitlyn Jenner.

by Anonymousreply 44October 26, 2024 3:13 PM

[quote] Mark Dorman, a retired teacher from Hell’s Kitchen, said he has been all but blacklisted from the Atlas Social Club, his local gay bar

Why are you in Atlas Social Club talking about Dump? Does all but blacklisted mean no one wants to talk to you? Do you advertise your terrible political beliefs?

by Anonymousreply 45October 26, 2024 3:30 PM

An “I’ve got mine” bigot wonders why he’s not popular. Groundbreaking.

by Anonymousreply 46October 26, 2024 3:46 PM

Chickens for KFC. And these fools deserve the fate of those chickens.

by Anonymousreply 47October 26, 2024 3:53 PM

[quote] im not maga but thers so many reasons I cant vote for Kamalla.

Do you plan to vote in Russia, Hungary, or North Macedonia?

by Anonymousreply 48October 26, 2024 3:54 PM

How can you be part of a movement when you’re deeply invested in society standing still?

by Anonymousreply 49October 26, 2024 3:55 PM

[quote] im not maga but thers so many reasons I cant vote for Kamalla. Shes Not presidential material.

You are so right! Because she's a woman, and a black woman to boot! (Well, not black until recently, I heard!) She's not presidential material like her opponent, my Donnie! He may be a convicted felon, and a fashionist (whatever that is!) and though he never held office before he became president, everyone knew he'd be great at it, as he was a famous TV star! That's presidential to me!

by Anonymousreply 50October 26, 2024 4:13 PM

What’s on their iPods?

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by Anonymousreply 51October 26, 2024 4:13 PM

Sorry, I forgot to sign my post at r50!

by Anonymousreply 52October 26, 2024 4:15 PM

"MY REPUBLICAN FRIENDS, some facts.

Trump had full control for 2 years. 2017-2019 POTUS SCOTUS HOUSE SENATE DOJ

Immigration bills passed—0 Border closures—0 Wall money—0

Actually immigration soared up to a record high in 2019

TAX CUTS FOR BILLIONAIRES—1"

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by Anonymousreply 53October 26, 2024 5:22 PM

Do they think *their* bedrooms will be unaffected? Their freedoms? How...sweet.

"Just found out this ad when tested moves under-30-men 3.5 points away from Donald Trump.

That’s MASSIVE!

Please share widely!

Guys don’t want to be controlled either."

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by Anonymousreply 54October 26, 2024 5:24 PM

Re: Ukraine:

The ammo plant in PA, for instance.

""We hear so much about the “money going to Ukraine”, but what Republicans fail to tell you is most of the money for “Ukraine” is spent right here in the United States. So we avoid a boots on ground European war, defend democracy, and rebuild our own military at the same time. Talk about that…"

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by Anonymousreply 55October 26, 2024 5:28 PM

I specifically recall in the 2016 election that Trump said a number of homophobic things. He may have been trying to figure out his strategy but he said that he was against gay marriage (used to easily find the video on line but I can’t find it any more); he had gone to gay weddings but that didn’t mean he liked them; and that he would name conservative judges to overturn Roe and gay marriage.

It was only after he was elected that he said publicly that gay marriage was settled law

by Anonymousreply 56October 26, 2024 6:40 PM

[quote]When Trump won, my husband was so upset he wanted me out of our apartment. The rage was unexplainable — I mean honest rage. I could not understand this emotion in him and why anyone would let a political vote destroy or nearly destroy a marriage.

If there were ever two sides to a story! I’d venture that our protagonist would come off slightly less the unfairly ostracized doyenne of Hell’s Kitchen than in the narrative he’s spun for Murdoch’s right wing rag.

by Anonymousreply 57October 26, 2024 8:53 PM

R56, years before that he did interviews saying that gays deserve the same rights as everyone else and felt sorry that they were discriminated against. It wasn’t until he ran that that all went out the window and he said Obama was also against gay marriage. Trump is a whore. Pay him and he’ll say anything. He was always a Democrat and was a huge supporter of the Clintons and Kamala Harris. He’s simply a lunatic.

by Anonymousreply 58October 26, 2024 9:11 PM

This is like those straight guys who are MAGA because they were fired by HR because HR is “woke” The asshole was fired because he was a creep, a sexual harasser or he couldn’t keep his mouth shut and announced his bigitries to minorities just to dominate and hurt them.

Or the Christians who claim to be persecuted. These assholes cannot stop trying to covert people. They cannot mind their own business and they are raging hypocrites. So people don’t want to hang with them.

Supporting Trump is very often a symptom of being a giant pain in the ass. Treating the symptom does not work so people wise up and cut ties because life is short and who needs their BS.

by Anonymousreply 59October 26, 2024 9:41 PM

R5 and others trashing this dumb cunt lesbian - my cousin is a lesbian dump supporter. Loud, obnoxious and proud of it. She’s also in her 60s.

She’s been shrieking about immigrants “flooding in”. She lives in Middletown Ohio. Yeah, the exact same.

Watches Fux noise and can’t understand why I blocked her on social media and no longer speak to her. She doesn’t believe that that fool is a traitor and wants to overturn gay marriage.

I asked her how she would cope when HER marriage is deemed “invalid” and she’s sent to one of those “gay conversion church camps”. She keep saying, “it won’t happen”.

Dumb cunt is just stuck her head in the sand and refuses to believe his history of hate.

by Anonymousreply 60October 26, 2024 10:07 PM

What MAGA gays wet dreams are made of.

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by Anonymousreply 61October 26, 2024 10:20 PM

The queer community is largely a straight white liberals movement. Silly white women mostly and the the white guys who wanna bang em.

by Anonymousreply 62October 26, 2024 10:26 PM

Then the guys who like guys but aren’t going to conventions or joining a cult about it are just left out in the cold.

by Anonymousreply 63October 26, 2024 10:31 PM

Amir Odom did a video about this a few days ago. The first guy featured, not gonna lie, if he walked into the polls to vote, I'd automatically assume he was voting for Kamala or Jill Stein. Under no circumstances would I say, "Yep. There's another voter for Trump, right there." There are many gays who are probably "closeted" Trump supporters. Some may have defected within the last 4 years so, they're hard to spot due to a long history of voting blue and mincing in liberal crowds.

They are among us. Trust.

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by Anonymousreply 64October 26, 2024 11:53 PM

These gay Maga morons are not particularly deep thinkers.

As a gay person it would seem to be a no brainer to not vote for the racist, homophobic party, but somehow these idiots can't manage to figure that out.

I guess every community has its short bus contingent.

by Anonymousreply 65October 27, 2024 12:07 AM

[quote] There’s always Caitlyn Jenner.

Don't forget about me.

by Anonymousreply 66October 27, 2024 1:04 AM

They're not only delusional in their politics. They're delusional in their self worth

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by Anonymousreply 67October 27, 2024 1:17 AM

I kid you not, I have a maga gay friend who said gay marriage was because of the ONE republican judge who sided with the liberal judges in Obergefell. You cannot make this shit up.

by Anonymousreply 68October 27, 2024 1:52 AM

MAGA gays are left out of the movement because all the progress is happening on the Dem side

by Anonymousreply 69October 27, 2024 2:30 AM

Where’s their pride? They should take pride in not having a home for their shitty views.

by Anonymousreply 70October 27, 2024 6:11 AM

I remember a video from 2008 of some silly queen squealing about how much he loved Sarah Palin. Just because someone is gay doesn't mean they have a brain.

by Anonymousreply 71October 27, 2024 6:39 AM

One thing I have specifically noticed with these MAGA Gays and lesbians is that they say incredibly vile and cruel things about other members of the LGBT family. Basically anyone who isn't exactly like them is fair game for MAGA Gays. Some of the things they say actually shock me. I would have thought that as a part of a historically demonized and marginalized minority they might have a bit more compassion for other people - especially those who don't fit the mould and are different.

The second thing which really strikes me about the MAGA Gay crowd is that if you criticize them or push back against the misinformation and disinformation they peddle and the vile and cruel things they say - it produces absolute histrionics. Fireworks! That anyone would dare criticize them! They seem incredulous that anyone would disagree with them or challenge them and the misinformation they spread and they take victimhood to new levels. In my experience, it's because they look down on the rest of the LGBT crowd and see themselves as better than the rest of us, not part of the LGBT umbrella and therefore exempt from any and all criticism - especially from other LGBT people. And most especially from other white, well-educated, well-off gays. They also value the extreme cruelty and racism that the MAGA/GOP machine dishes out to other people which links in with what I've posted above.

As Mark Dormam in OP's linked article said - “I’m almost anti-gay.” And what he means is that he IS anti-gay and is deeply ashamed by anyone who isn't exactly like him and he's not afraid to go around telling people that. Therein lies the problem.

by Anonymousreply 72October 27, 2024 11:14 AM

I have this argument all the time. 'I thought the LGBT movement was all about acceptance and tolerance. I guess it is as long as someone agrees with you." I always take down that argument easily. "Do you think people in the civil rights movement were accepting of those who supported the throwing rocks at Ruby Bridges?" which usually results in an education of who Ruby Bridges is lol.

by Anonymousreply 73October 27, 2024 1:47 PM

You have to ask what did these people ever do for the movement or the community. It's a question they won't like.

by Anonymousreply 74October 27, 2024 1:49 PM

JFC. Is anyone else tired of hearing conservative gay men yammer on about Iran, or extremist countries in the Middle East?

Everyone & their mother knows what happens to women & gay men in Iran, which is why we don’t go there.

Also? If you find yourself ostracized by other gays, it’s because you’re probably not a very nice person, & don’t really give a shit about equal rights and equal treatment for ALL people, including the LGBTQ community.

by Anonymousreply 75October 27, 2024 2:03 PM

My first and only reaction to a MAGA gay would be to recoil and then run

by Anonymousreply 76October 27, 2024 2:06 PM

VERY good question R74. They did nothing. I used to know a few of these MAGA type gay people. They reaped the rewards from the hard work of the other LGBT people who did the fighting for all of us and now spend their time shitting all over other LGBT people. The ones they hate so much are the ones who were visible and who never backed down no matter the violence and repercussions. The loud and proud "queers", the gay cast of misfits like leather queens and dykes on bikes and all the other colorful characters, the tough drag queens and the early trans and the straight supporters who joined in. The brave LGBT. That's who we owe our rights to. The ones who you could clearly see and identify and who were in danger but never gave up.

These snivelling little spineless MAGA gays hid away terrified and watched everyone else do it for them and then after the dust settled and they got what they wanted they decided they were better than everyone else.

To fight for gay rights and to fight for other people requires empathy, courage, understanding, intent to create a better position for other people, to care for others and steely determination. It would be impossible to have done any of that and then to have turned into a MAGA gay.

by Anonymousreply 77October 27, 2024 2:08 PM

👏👏🏻👏🏼👏🏽👏🏾👏🏿 for R77!

by Anonymousreply 78October 27, 2024 2:15 PM

Sane and rational gays, lesbians and transpeople are leaving the LGBTQIALMNOP Queer cult in droves.

by Anonymousreply 79October 27, 2024 2:29 PM

Sure, Jan, @ R79.

by Anonymousreply 80October 27, 2024 2:41 PM

The queer community is largely "bi" leaning straight and "non binary" leaning cis. Their number one political agendas are getting straight male sex offenders moved to women's prisons and gay children castrated (protect trans kids)

If I was a maga gay, I'd be proud to be rejected by these idiots.

by Anonymousreply 81October 27, 2024 2:49 PM

We’ll see with the election. If Trump wins, I think all of the groups who flirted with fascism are going to learn a hard lesson. Unless you are a rich or powerful white male, Trump will have zero loyalty. He never has.

by Anonymousreply 82October 27, 2024 2:51 PM

if trump wins I am moving to Mexico

by Anonymousreply 83October 27, 2024 4:30 PM

I might have to move

by Anonymousreply 84October 27, 2024 5:32 PM

These MAGA gays don't seem to get why their peers don't want them around. As gay men, you'd think they'd have some sensitivity to what their politics engender, but there's a part of the MAGAt brain that precludes self awareness, empathy and just plain old common decency.

My friend group is celebrating the 50th anniversary of two members, great men who have lived the life. They met in the early 70s, formed a union and built honorable lives when it was extremely difficult. They adopted two boys (several years apart and not biologically related), raised them, fed them, educated them, and gave them lives that were simply out of their reach; both are now successful, happy and proud of their gay dads. These two men have contributed to the gay community in immeasurable ways, and are just plain good men.

Well, a mutual friend reacted poorly when he received an invitation to their celebratory dinner, but a MAGA gay dude who intruded in our group via a hookup with the mutual did not. Now, MAGAman has only been in our friend group for roughly 6 months and, frankly, only out of respect for the mutual. We've all had words with him because he just can't read the room and know when to keep his mouth shut, and he's spouted some crazy shit including a shockingly cruel disparaging comment that was extraordinarily hurtful to another man in our group, and we've all had enough of him. We told the mutual that we'll deal with MAGAman on occasion, but not this 50th anniversary celebration. One of the celebrants quietly thanked those of us dealing with this so they didn't have to.

The mutual got all bent out of shape when hubby and I finally told him if insisted on bringing his MAGA hookup to our friends' 50th anniversary party, he was uninvited too. We tried to explain to him, using examples of the MAGAman's vitriolic outbursts as recent as our Labor Day barbecue (when he hurled the hurtful epithet), that we don't want our celebrants' party spoiled by politics and we know, without doubt, that MAGAman will not be able to show even minimal respect. The mutual finally seemed to accept the situation, but MAGAman has made such a big deal out of it that we're ready to send them both packing.

I bumped into MAGAman at the grocery store last week, and the first words out of his mouth were "Am I still not invited to [celebrants]'s party?" — not "hello", not "how are you", and he couldn't contain himself when I said "just the fact that the first thing you say to me is about it should tell you why you are not." He got even more upset when one of the store managers came over and told him directly that if he didn't lower his voice and calm down he'd have to leave, and he practically screamed at this poor employee that it was discrimination that the manager — who I've known on a first name basis for years as I shop in this store and know all of the employees by name, and them, me — didn't threaten me with the same. The manager just looked at him and said "he's not making an ass of himself" gesturing toward me. MAGAman stormed out, shouting that he'd never shop there again. When I apologized to the manager, he shrugged his shoulders and said "we all know someone..."

I really don't know how we're going to handle it if MAGAman shows up regardless that he is not invited. The celebration is after the election, and we're girding ourselves for the worst — that he'll gloat if Trump wins, and he'll scream it was stolen if not — and all we want to do is celebrate our friends' lives and accomplishments in a pleasant environment. It's a party, for fuck's sake.

I hate what Donald Trump has done to this nation.

by Anonymousreply 85October 27, 2024 6:38 PM

Brevity R85.

by Anonymousreply 86October 27, 2024 8:23 PM

I thought that r85 told his story directly and with admirable restraint.

by Anonymousreply 87October 27, 2024 8:33 PM

I hear it’s equally rough out there for Jewish neo-nazis..

by Anonymousreply 88October 27, 2024 8:36 PM

R82 if trump were to win he or his admin will do all kinds of new shit his supporters are absolutely going to love. And what they will love the earliest is watching the Vengeance Tour begin.

Then all: kinds of other stuff they will love. There will be rewards and payback and punishment. Lots of punishment. MAGAs will be dancing in the streets with joy.

If trump wins liberals will be treated like the nazis were in Oct 1945 Germany.

Either way we are going to be seeing some real fucking important history unfold

by Anonymousreply 89October 27, 2024 8:37 PM

R85 damn right. And it’s all trumps fault.

You should treat your friend like good Germans would have treated Jews in 1935 Germany. No camps just don’t invite them to your celebrations. And if they do show up then all of you can then gang up and kick their ass.

Fucking trump

by Anonymousreply 90October 27, 2024 8:47 PM

The Supreme Court is absolutely going to overturn Obergefell within the next year or two. Gay conservatives are fully enabling that. They prefer cruelty to immigrants and refugees to their own personal dignity and financial security.

by Anonymousreply 91October 27, 2024 10:33 PM

"And when you sit by yourself in your apartment and you feel all alone, just remember . . . you ARE!" --S. Bernhard

by Anonymousreply 92October 27, 2024 10:59 PM

R91, right. It’s always the mentality of “oh, I’ll be fine; is the other gays who will suffer”. Just look at that cunt Aaron schock

by Anonymousreply 93October 27, 2024 11:17 PM

I’m Cuban and I was talking this morning with a Venezuelan guy who lives in the same apartment building as my mother. He was a Trump supporter but he couldn’t vote yet. He was not even a caucasian Latino like me, and clearly mulatto with some South American Indian for sure.

I told him buddy, people take liberal’s support for granted. The reason why many Latinos , especially those of your skin color are able to make it into this country is because of those liberal left progressive people, especially white anglos, that you despise so much that support you, the rest of the conservatives,the majority of them, white anglos, would not think twice deporting your brown ass back to Venezuela in a heartbeat.

And that is the same with the maga gays and black magas that support Trump and disparage the left and the progressives. They do it because they take for granted the support of those very people that they despise so much.

Gay magas thinks that they can take for granted the support of the heterosexual, mainly white people that stand for gay rights and who fight to stop discrimination.

I tell them do not take them for granted, anyone no matter what their political leaning is can be a racist, a homophobe and a rabid xenophobe.

But they still take for granted the support of the mainly white Anglo liberal and progressive people.do not bite the hand that feeds you, be grateful and thankful to our supporters and straight progressive liberal allies. Without their support you will want to take a rope and hang yourself on a tree, trust me.

by Anonymousreply 94October 27, 2024 11:29 PM

There seems to be some sort of disconnect with MAGA gays. Delusional people.

by Anonymousreply 95October 28, 2024 12:25 AM

There are lots of white and Latino gay men with MAGA views. Theyre just not open about it or find Trump himself to be too much even if they like the right.

But I'm not a fan of whiners. If they're going around loudly praising Trump among people who hate his crazy orange ass, what do they think is going to happen?

And those "no Republican" bios on grindr mentioned are irrelevant if they're just hooking up. No one is discussing politics before a quick fuck. But if they're looking for something more serious, of course that's going to be relevant.to most people.

by Anonymousreply 96October 28, 2024 12:40 AM

If there are a lot of MAGA gay whites and Latinos - they aren’t in my area.

They can fuck right off to suburbia or where ever the fuck hell hole they live

by Anonymousreply 97October 28, 2024 1:11 AM

It would be good if we had to show our voter registration to go inside gay clubs and parties.

by Anonymousreply 98October 28, 2024 1:32 AM

R31, thank you!

by Anonymousreply 99October 28, 2024 1:41 AM

Are they aware of Project 2025??????

by Anonymousreply 100October 28, 2024 1:42 AM

They claim it is fake

by Anonymousreply 101October 28, 2024 1:48 AM

MAGA gays feel left out of the movement because they have tried so hard to stop the movement.

Remember the "We don't need gay marriage!" bull crap from the right wing gays?

by Anonymousreply 102October 28, 2024 1:52 AM

Of course they are R100. But the MAGA gays all claim that all the GOP and Project 2025 anti-LGBT policies are focussed on the TRANS ONLY and NOT the gays! NOT the gays because they say the GOP is totally fine with gays. Has no problem with gays whatsoever but also that the GOP have every right to criticize gays.

And about the Project 2025 plan to overturn gay marriage - these spineless snivelling sell-out MAGA gays screech that gay marriage is codified and therefore untouchable.

As anyone educated in the slightest knows; a codified law can be overturned and nullified by another proposed law to overturn it. If the GOP win the house and senate then it will sail through and if not, Project 2025 have repeatedly stated that they have already drawn up the executive orders for Trump to sign before he goes out to play golf.

by Anonymousreply 103October 28, 2024 2:00 AM

The kind of oppression Republicans love loses its potency very fast. Just because they are focused on trans and migrants now doesn’t mean they won’t shift to gays very quickly. It takes only one word: “grooming.”

by Anonymousreply 104October 28, 2024 2:18 AM

We already saw a taste of the "grooming' attack on gays during the midterms (especially out of FL and DeSantis' Communications Director). The GOP found that that anti-trans stuff worked better so quickly pivoted.

That anti-trans arc is ending and during subsequent campaigns will have to find another boogie man--it will eventually end up back to villainizing gays, which is a perennial favorite thing to do by all fascists.

by Anonymousreply 105October 28, 2024 2:22 AM

If a 50 year right like abortion can be overturned, so can a 9 year right like gay marriage.

Two SCOTUS justices, Thomas and Alito, said it out loud that it was a goal. Project 2025 lists it as a goal.

Anyone who claims it can't possibly be changed is being disingenuous or an idiot.

by Anonymousreply 106October 28, 2024 2:29 AM

The gay marriage law can easily be changed with a new law which proposes to nullify it R106. That's exactly what they will do.

by Anonymousreply 107October 28, 2024 2:33 AM

Thankfully Biden passed the law that makes states recognize gay marriages done in other states. Of course, these MAGA gays claim that was a BS law and wasn;t needed.

by Anonymousreply 108October 28, 2024 2:38 AM

That law will be overturned too R108.

by Anonymousreply 109October 28, 2024 2:41 AM

Gay marriage may need to be overturned to tone down the white straight male supremacy that's taken over the formerly gay organizations.

by Anonymousreply 110October 28, 2024 2:42 AM

R108, wasn't Biden of the chief defenders that forbade states from recognizing gay marriages performed in other states in the 90s?

by Anonymousreply 111October 28, 2024 2:43 AM

Chief defenders of the law *

by Anonymousreply 112October 28, 2024 2:44 AM

R111, yes, Biden was anti-gay marriage, like pretty much every major politician at the time.

And then he evolved with the times. Sadly the GOP hasn't

by Anonymousreply 113October 28, 2024 2:46 AM

At 64, he should know to keep his politics to himself.

by Anonymousreply 114October 28, 2024 3:43 AM

R104

One word and the word is disease. Infectious disease,

Like aids and syphilis and monkeypox , gay male driven infectious disease. But it has to be a gay male driven infectious disease that threatens straights. Or worse the children.

And so far so good on that front, So far,

Stay lucky is my advice

by Anonymousreply 115October 28, 2024 8:47 AM

[quote] if trump were to win he or his admin will do all kinds of new shit his supporters are absolutely going to love.

Yes, until he starts doing things that will negatively affect them.

If Trump wins it's highly likely he'll either be rendered so mentally incapacitated he has to be removed from office in his first year or he will die. Then we'll be left with an equally incompetent fool running the show, JD Vance. Can you picture that numpty as POTUS?

I still hold out hope that if he wins the military will march into Congress soon after the election and announce that martial law is now in force and Trump is in custody.

by Anonymousreply 116October 28, 2024 10:22 AM

R116 loves democracy so much. If his sides loses he wants a military take over of the US to overturn the election and doing away with democracy.

At least he is honest. Democracy sucks unless you win.

by Anonymousreply 117October 28, 2024 10:30 AM

[quote]MAGA gays feel left out of LGBT movement

It's perfectly normal to feel left out of a group that doesn't want to have anything to do with your self-loathing ass.

by Anonymousreply 118October 28, 2024 10:41 AM

R117, Trump winning is in no way a sign of democracy. It is a sign that we have a large percentage of voters in this country who are deranged cultists who fell for all his and the GOP's lies. There are times in court trials when the judge realizes the decision by the jury is completely wrong and he/she has to intervene and override it, or issue a directed verdict.

The USA can not sit back and let the crazies take over and if it requires military intervention to set things on the right path, so be it. If Trump wins it will take a long time for this country to recover.

by Anonymousreply 119October 28, 2024 10:43 AM

R119 I am with you. Letting people vote to elect their govt can lead to all kinds of bad shit. And it will be bad shit if trump is elected. You just want to see the US military to step in and over turn the election in order to make it right. A military coup against a duly elected US govt.

You and Trump are not as far off in your world views and the use of the US military as you might think.

by Anonymousreply 120October 28, 2024 11:55 AM

Which is why I think the polls are faked. The PTB are trying to convince us democracy is a failure.

by Anonymousreply 121October 28, 2024 12:19 PM

R121 we have people on this thread that advocate for a military take over if trump wins. How is that the medias or the poll takers fault?

And did all the poll takers get together to overturn democracy or just some of them?

Democracy has failed when the losers start looking to the military for help.

by Anonymousreply 122October 28, 2024 1:52 PM

[quote] I’d really invite them to go to Iran or Gaza

This is ironic, because the Republicans are promising to bring in the same kind of theocratic repression of gay rights.

by Anonymousreply 123October 28, 2024 1:59 PM

"Democracy has failed when the losers start looking to the military for help."

You mean like on 1/6/21?

by Anonymousreply 124October 28, 2024 2:06 PM

No, r122 doesn’t mean that. They only apply such criticism to Democrats. It’s how this works.

by Anonymousreply 125October 28, 2024 2:08 PM

[quote] Like aids and syphilis and monkeypox , gay male driven infectious disease. But it has to be a gay male driven infectious disease that threatens straights. Or worse the children.

Yet outside the west, it's straights that drive all these diseases

by Anonymousreply 126October 28, 2024 3:25 PM

R126 are you posting from the US or from the Congo? This thread is about the US.

by Anonymousreply 127October 28, 2024 4:09 PM

R125 did you take your stupid pills today? That is someone else on DL I have never favored any side no matter the party using the US military to overturn US elections. Not gop or Dems. And you have to be beyond stupid to say this is how it works.

anyone advocating for the US military to step in and decide the winner of our election is certainly not advocating for democracy.

by Anonymousreply 128October 28, 2024 7:26 PM

if grooming is the word that's gonna get gays put in concentrations camps, maybe we should stop the trans from using schools to infect children with their mind virus.

by Anonymousreply 129October 28, 2024 8:59 PM

No, we should actually fight the people who are trying to ship people off. If you really want to go there, look up the fate of the Jewish Councils in Europe who helped the Nazis organize the transports. They thought they would be spared, but history is not kind to those who try to please authoritarians.

by Anonymousreply 130October 28, 2024 9:07 PM

When I went to Berlin, there was a description of Jewish Nazi collaborators at the Nazi police headquarters--now a museum. They would turn in other Jews. A notable example was Stella Goldschlag, a German Jewish woman who denounced other Jews in hiding to the Nazis.

by Anonymousreply 131October 28, 2024 9:10 PM

trans women were the first victims of the Holocaust.

by Anonymousreply 132October 28, 2024 9:13 PM

[quote] if grooming is the word that's gonna get gays put in concentrations camps, maybe we should stop the trans from using schools to infect children with their mind virus.

Trans are canaries in the coal mine. If we sell them down the river, gays are next

by Anonymousreply 133October 28, 2024 9:14 PM

r133, that's nonsense. why in the world would they need to go through heterosexual white male transvestities to get to the gays?

by Anonymousreply 134October 28, 2024 9:17 PM

If that is a problem then you’re NOT a normal gay. You don’t belong in our community...

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by Anonymousreply 135November 3, 2024 8:48 AM

[quote] There are lots of white and Latino gay men with MAGA views.

Probably not a lot, but I found this guy on X. He’s kind of cute.

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by Anonymousreply 136November 3, 2024 9:40 AM

His twitter feed is pretty nasty R136.

by Anonymousreply 137November 3, 2024 9:49 AM

MAGA gays can go die in a grease fire

by Anonymousreply 138November 3, 2024 11:38 AM

A bunch of closeted MAGA gay DLers lining up at the ballot box tomorrow like...

(We see you)

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by Anonymousreply 139November 4, 2024 11:21 PM

MAGA Gays now the happiest of gays. And they say——fuck you DL.

Many are thinking about housing prices in DC where they will be moving soon to start new jobs.

All new admin male gay hires will have to sign a pledge not to film themselves fucking someone on the floor of the senate. And don’t doubt for a moment that previous public fucking that was filed and shared did not cost Harris votes. Maybe not many but some.

by Anonymousreply 140November 6, 2024 7:31 AM

[quote]And don’t doubt for a moment that previous public fucking that was filed and shared did not cost Harris votes.

That's a very large stretch R140. You sound a bit insane and unhinged actually.

by Anonymousreply 141November 6, 2024 8:26 AM

Funny you think that R140. You do not know what you are dealing with. MAGA gays are by definition too stupid to fill any functions.

by Anonymousreply 142November 6, 2024 8:30 AM

“Maybe not many but some”

R141 you seem to have missed that part. Are you going to claim that not one vote was lost because of that tape? A widely viewed tale of a gay DEM staffer having a public fuck in the US. Capital.

Americans do not approve of that shit. At least a few votes were lost. If you think not one then you would be wrong,

by Anonymousreply 143November 6, 2024 8:33 AM

I didn't miss it R143. I didn't bother to read the rest of your post after that ludicrous claim you made about how something some complete fuckwit did years ago caused Kamala to lose the election. Get a goddamn grip.

And when you say - "am I going to claim"... No. I'm not going to claim ANYTHING because I don't give a fuck about it. I repeat - get a grip a stop acting like an unhinged lunatic.

by Anonymousreply 144November 6, 2024 8:50 AM

hey can't stop acting like unhinged lunatics becasue they are unhinged lunatics. Nobody in the country paid any attention to that incident. It lost ero votes. Remember these people voted for a man they KNOW to be a rapist and pedophile.

by Anonymousreply 145November 6, 2024 8:53 AM

This "asset" didn't help anything...

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by Anonymousreply 146November 6, 2024 12:25 PM

R146 the Dems did not lose the election because of ugly trannies with important federal jobs who are shown as role models , who steal luggage at the airport as a hobby

nor because some asshole who works in the senate decided to film him and his fuckbuddy fucking in the US Capitol and then post. It for all to see not that long before the election, nor was it monkeypox, nor aids, or some 6’2” male wearing a dress playing in a game against girls or any other one thing, it was a steady drip drip drip drip drip drip

And just like that Trump wins the popular vote. The majority has gotten fed up and angry and last night showed their anger.

by Anonymousreply 147November 6, 2024 12:46 PM

R85 dont worry about sending an invite I am going to a winners party that day not a losers sorry pity party.

by Anonymousreply 148November 6, 2024 1:56 PM

I hope the MAGA gays choke on diseased cocks.

by Anonymousreply 149November 6, 2024 1:59 PM
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